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If we wanted to dig in to this. Hair and fur have different sorts of building blocks. The radiation is what causes the hair to fall out. Maybe it didn't effect the fur to the same extent of the hair due to the difference in it. Not to mention not all kinds of radiation cause hair lose, and some people only get tinning or loss of certain hair. Some people lose everything and others will loose there head hair but keeps some body hair. So I guess it depends on what the artist wished to portray.
Y'know that animals can and do have chemotherapy for cancer (which is what causes the hair loss, not the cancer itself) and they don't lose their fur. However dogs that have a hair-structured coat (rather than a fur one) like poodles can lose it. So it's not too far fetched to believe that he would lose the hair on his head but keep his fur.
OMG this is sooo amazing. I can really identify with both of the boys. My partner was diagnosed with cancer 6 years ago. and we went through 6 months of chemo together.(thankfully successful) You must have some experience with this sort of thing Sal. Thanks for a dose of real life. I hope the boys have a happy ending like we did.
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK, I finally find a comic that drags me in with emotion, love and tenderness, and then Bam cancer. This is like my fucking life, no hope just bam cancer... oh look 20 bucks on the floor, Bam cancer. Oh you got a nice bit of art going, Bam cancer... God, this is an artist rendition and all respect to the artist for making it theres but... damn... This makes me so depressed.
For fucks sake
Also question - in case its solely brain cancer, the treatment would not be chemo as far as I know? since it doesn't pass the blood-brain barrier. Chemo would be used in case the cancer spreads to the rest of the body and in that case the bunny will most likely die since its advanced stage. Otherwise, radiation to the brain would be the solution instead of chemo?
Also question - in case its solely brain cancer, the treatment would not be chemo as far as I know? since it doesn't pass the blood-brain barrier. Chemo would be used in case the cancer spreads to the rest of the body and in that case the bunny will most likely die since its advanced stage. Otherwise, radiation to the brain would be the solution instead of chemo?
It depends on the type of brain tumor Shou has. Chemotherapy can be used solely for brain tumors, but it does not treat all varieties. It would be up to his doctor's judgment as to whether or not it would be worth trying this form of treatment, and apparently they concluded that the tumor or tumors might be treated this way.
The act of treating cancer, not even brain cancer, with Chemo or radiation can cause a serious altered mental state called "Chemo brain." When this happens a person can not only forget who they are or what they're doing they can, in some cases, injure themselves without ever feeling pain until an extended time after injuring themselves.
So no... it doesn't have to be brain cancer for Shou to forget himself... he just has to have been fighting cancer.
So no... it doesn't have to be brain cancer for Shou to forget himself... he just has to have been fighting cancer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemo_brain It's not really something that puts them in an amnesia-like state. ;x I suffer a bit from this condition after having been through chemotherapy. Sometimes I forget certain words or can't form a complete sentence in the confusion of finding the right words, I don't always process what a person has just told me despite how closely I seem to listen, I have to re-read a sentence at times to make sure I comprehend it. I can say that I can multitask just fine, though.
I think that not feeling pain after a certain type of injury is more of a survival-based thing rather than chemo related. Your brain sends signals to dull the pain and attempt to keep it suppressed so you can provide the care needed for it to survive. Pain after the fact tends to be the body working to fight off any infections.
This is even after 6 months of chemotherapy 3 years ago and it still lingers today.
I think that not feeling pain after a certain type of injury is more of a survival-based thing rather than chemo related. Your brain sends signals to dull the pain and attempt to keep it suppressed so you can provide the care needed for it to survive. Pain after the fact tends to be the body working to fight off any infections.
This is even after 6 months of chemotherapy 3 years ago and it still lingers today.
This hits really close to home for me because I've had loved ones suffer the pain of cancer and then suffer through chemo and radiation therapy. When I was in my Senior year of High School my little brother Andrew, who was a Sophomore at the same high school, was diagnosed with Leukemia. I will spare everyone all the unpleasant details but it was miserable for everyone, my mom took it the hardest she often slept over at the hospital so Andrew could sleep better instead of being all alone. After weeks of radiation and chemo my brother eventually went into remission.
Five years later we had moved when my Grandfather Ernest died of cancer. I loved my grandpa Ernest Stewart, as a kid I called him Gaga, he was the nice'est old man I have every meat. Ernest had skin cancer on his head near his skull, The Doctors had to surgically remove a piece of his skull which this caved in area above his left eye. It work for a while but he relapsed and had to take radiation therapy which weakened him so much he died in his sleep of organ failure. And if that is not sad enough on the day of Grandpa Ernest's Funeral my mother got a call from the hospital telling her that Andrew's Leukemia had relapsed. Andrew had to go back to hospital and suffer another round of chemo and rad treatments. Again he survived and went into remission, and enough time has passed that the hospital declared him cured.
My grandfather Ernest was not the last casualty my family suffered because of cancer. A few years after Ernest died my other grandfather Gene died of pancreatic cancer, and it wasn't long or drawn out like Ernest had been. My grandpa Gene died a week after he was diagnosed and it really hurt me hard because I never really got a chance to say goodbye. He was a tough old man I thought he would last longer, both Gene and Ernest were WWII veterans as well who both served in the Pacific. Neither of them deserved to die like that after all they gave for their country and family's.
As for my brother he survived but he is not the boy I once knew. Before the Leukemia he was a bright, energetic, smart young boy whose passion in life was computers, making them, playing competitive multiplayer and so on. [the computer I am typing this on right now is one my brother built himself using parts he ordered on Amazon] His passion for computers remain but the rest of his personality, has changed. Most of the time he's moody and just wants to be left alone in his room where he spends almost 50-70% of his time in. On rare occasions he brightens up and I see the happy bright and smiling boy I once knew, especially when his friends come over, then he laughs and jokes just like he used to. Sometimes I wish I could help better, to help him enjoy life more instead of spending all day in his room. Despite all that my brother is alive and officially cured and that is still a victory.
Five years later we had moved when my Grandfather Ernest died of cancer. I loved my grandpa Ernest Stewart, as a kid I called him Gaga, he was the nice'est old man I have every meat. Ernest had skin cancer on his head near his skull, The Doctors had to surgically remove a piece of his skull which this caved in area above his left eye. It work for a while but he relapsed and had to take radiation therapy which weakened him so much he died in his sleep of organ failure. And if that is not sad enough on the day of Grandpa Ernest's Funeral my mother got a call from the hospital telling her that Andrew's Leukemia had relapsed. Andrew had to go back to hospital and suffer another round of chemo and rad treatments. Again he survived and went into remission, and enough time has passed that the hospital declared him cured.
My grandfather Ernest was not the last casualty my family suffered because of cancer. A few years after Ernest died my other grandfather Gene died of pancreatic cancer, and it wasn't long or drawn out like Ernest had been. My grandpa Gene died a week after he was diagnosed and it really hurt me hard because I never really got a chance to say goodbye. He was a tough old man I thought he would last longer, both Gene and Ernest were WWII veterans as well who both served in the Pacific. Neither of them deserved to die like that after all they gave for their country and family's.
As for my brother he survived but he is not the boy I once knew. Before the Leukemia he was a bright, energetic, smart young boy whose passion in life was computers, making them, playing competitive multiplayer and so on. [the computer I am typing this on right now is one my brother built himself using parts he ordered on Amazon] His passion for computers remain but the rest of his personality, has changed. Most of the time he's moody and just wants to be left alone in his room where he spends almost 50-70% of his time in. On rare occasions he brightens up and I see the happy bright and smiling boy I once knew, especially when his friends come over, then he laughs and jokes just like he used to. Sometimes I wish I could help better, to help him enjoy life more instead of spending all day in his room. Despite all that my brother is alive and officially cured and that is still a victory.
Hmmm, I wonder if it is actually a spinal disease affecting his nervous system rather than a cancer... Is it bad that I am more interested in the actual medical diagnosis than the current situation? Because he is a rabbit the first thing I thought of is encephalitozoonisis. The Amnesia, strange behavior.. I guess its more hopefull because prognosis is still slightly better than say.. a common brain tumor rabbit often get.
Having had several family members with all cancer types.... The act of treating cancer, not even brain cancer, with Chemo or radiation can cause a serious altered mental state called "Chemo brain." When this happens a person can not only forget who they are or what they're doing they can, in some cases, injure themselves without ever feeling pain until an extended time after injuring themselves.
It doesn't have to be brain cancer for Shou to forget himself... he just has to have been fighting cancer. Brain Cancer makes treatment an even trickier process though.
It doesn't have to be brain cancer for Shou to forget himself... he just has to have been fighting cancer. Brain Cancer makes treatment an even trickier process though.
The meaning behind this comic is truly something to value.... The love of a partner is enduring. I have suffered this pain alone... I watched as bits and pieces were taken... my freedom, my hope, physical parts of myself. I broke down after reading through this page.
SalKitten, I cannot express how happy I am to see someone address the importance of love. Having some one beside you, to hold your hand and guide you through the darkest of days. For me, the love of my family pushed me forward and even beyond the painful memories I can see just how it impacted my life. Thank you
SalKitten, I cannot express how happy I am to see someone address the importance of love. Having some one beside you, to hold your hand and guide you through the darkest of days. For me, the love of my family pushed me forward and even beyond the painful memories I can see just how it impacted my life. Thank you
Seeing the "IM SORRY IN ADVANCE" makes me think that there will be no happy ending to this story, more so with this particular page. While sad, I know it's a part of the story and thus still must be told to get it out. Sadly I've experienced so much loss that it's like my tears have long since dried up while I feel for the characters, I guess a part of me just tries to block it all out. I won't bore you with any of my personal life stuff however since we don't even know each other. If this doesn't end happy, well I can understand, since it's a story that you are doing, and how you want to express it, just like so many other do with their own works of art as I myself do with my own story.
I really hope this story has him beat cancer. He lready was losing his dad to cancer. To lose his love would show the world is cruel and he would then either kill himself or kill other since he has nothing to lose. So I hope he beats it because im getting tired of sad endings lately.
Oh, wow, 1 watch when Sal already has over 10k. Not money, or anything. Not any sort of trades.. Just a watch from someone who has no reputation on FA or even an icon. In return for spending hours upon hours of rewriting, inking and coloring several pages... Basically just throwing out the window all of the emotion and effort Sal has put into this and asking to throw together some fairy tail ending that you can just click your tv onto Disney Channel to see... for a watch. One single watch.
Sooooo logical.
Sooooo logical.
The whole 'gay kids with cancer' plot line has been done to death. Too cliche for me.
And unfortunately it's a lot more realistic for the other partner to just abandon the other one and not give a fuck. At the very least they start going behind their back, which, can you really blame them?
And unfortunately it's a lot more realistic for the other partner to just abandon the other one and not give a fuck. At the very least they start going behind their back, which, can you really blame them?
I wouldn't take it personally. It's extremely difficult to be both a skilled visual artist and a skilled writer. The two components require separate developmental skill sets. Studying webcomics, you'll find that a lot of artists have the issue of being subpar in one, or a combination of both categories.
I didn't see a writing issue, honestly, it seemed right and well to me, and it made me feel. im the biggest critic int he world, and pic EVRYTHING apart, but I didn't see a problem. even if you see one,a dn you most definitely are allowed to , to be so fucking nasty, what does that do?does it help?does it make the writing better?no, it hurts the writers feelings, and nothing more. personally, I think its beautiful, which is my opinion
I find that an artist listens to harsher criticism than they would ass-pandering. If you were an artist you would know this.
But none of that matters to our audience, the readership. It's entirely up to the writer to decide if they want to improve, or not improve.
The story is cliche, unfortunately. That's just the truth. There is already a very famous furry comic strip about this very subject that was based on two characters called Vinci and Arty which was played out under the Jack webcomic.
Cancer & gay drama in general though are kind of cliche. You see it all over the place and undoubtedly the two subject materials get mixed together.
If this is the artist's first story strip, then they shouldn't beat themselves up for it being cliche. But that's what it is. It's up to themselves if they want to recognize that or not.
Most artists on this site, would, in all likelihood probably just blow off the criticism, however.
But none of that matters to our audience, the readership. It's entirely up to the writer to decide if they want to improve, or not improve.
The story is cliche, unfortunately. That's just the truth. There is already a very famous furry comic strip about this very subject that was based on two characters called Vinci and Arty which was played out under the Jack webcomic.
Cancer & gay drama in general though are kind of cliche. You see it all over the place and undoubtedly the two subject materials get mixed together.
If this is the artist's first story strip, then they shouldn't beat themselves up for it being cliche. But that's what it is. It's up to themselves if they want to recognize that or not.
Most artists on this site, would, in all likelihood probably just blow off the criticism, however.
I am actually an artist, you arrogant fool. starting out, but still an artist, look up who you speak to. being a asshole doesn't make you right, and it doesn't make you an artist or a critique to rip on someone, it makes you an asshole, which you are being. a saying that was told to me by a teacher is this"there is no such things as a not clichéd story, as everything has been done in a form or fashion, but it show you interpret it that makes it unique"if YOU were an artist, and not a drawing artist, but atrue hearted artist, you would see his. for now I have nothing to say to arrogant fools like you
thanks for this. it really hit me hard, but made me happy, seeing not only love through sufferance, but a story not just there for sex. this is a real, emotiuonal, painful story, and though im sure I know its ending, and hate the idea of it, I know it will be best for plot and story. thanks for making a real comic with a real plot, and don't mind the comment above, some people like to take shots where it isn't needed
I get that. and god, even though its story, I wish I could do something for them. I cannot wait to see where it leaves them all, and that through all this sadness, there is strength to be admired, and love to be cherished. still, beautiful story, thank you for bringing something like this to fa, it is so desperately needed, and im going to save it all when its completed.
I'm entirely inclined with agreeing with you. On a softer side of criticism, the story, parts of it here and there, HAVE been done before so it gives this story a bit of a predictability issue. However, the artist has handled each portion and ballanced out a platter of emotion that you don't see to this level. There's my input. Gonna go clean my guest room as I have a hunch my feels will be staying for the remainder of this journey.
-sigh- XD
Shou knew he had cancer since before he and Ken met. This was the main reason he wasn't socializing and was hesitant to make any friends (knowing his time was limited). Ken managed to pull him into his life and make him happy, but he knew he had to tell him eventually. He intends to on a day that Ken skips classes, goes to see if he's okay and hears that Ken's father is getting a benign tumor removed. He doesn't feel like he should tell Ken at that time and postpones it, comforting the one he loves instead.
Unfortunately, because of his own cancer forming a large brain tumor, he has a lapse in memory and personality at a bad time, which is how Ken finds out. Despite the heartbreaking situation, Ken stays with him, trying to stay strong and comfort the one HE loves.
up to speed, now?
Shou knew he had cancer since before he and Ken met. This was the main reason he wasn't socializing and was hesitant to make any friends (knowing his time was limited). Ken managed to pull him into his life and make him happy, but he knew he had to tell him eventually. He intends to on a day that Ken skips classes, goes to see if he's okay and hears that Ken's father is getting a benign tumor removed. He doesn't feel like he should tell Ken at that time and postpones it, comforting the one he loves instead.
Unfortunately, because of his own cancer forming a large brain tumor, he has a lapse in memory and personality at a bad time, which is how Ken finds out. Despite the heartbreaking situation, Ken stays with him, trying to stay strong and comfort the one HE loves.
up to speed, now?
It takes me 6 hours per page, minimum.
There's a reason there are only 30 pages. I wish I could have done more.
I am also a full-time student, working on commissions to pay my rent and have been going through family and friend drama on/off all summer. I'm sorry you feel this way but I'm doing all I can.
There's a reason there are only 30 pages. I wish I could have done more.
I am also a full-time student, working on commissions to pay my rent and have been going through family and friend drama on/off all summer. I'm sorry you feel this way but I'm doing all I can.
First of all Sal, I would love to say that I have always admired your beautiful pieces of art work, and I have to say that this comic is not only an art piece in its own physical form, but the story and message that it carries I would say even runs deeper than what is portrayed in the visual images. I know many have already posted things about their experiences with the subject of the comic, I too had an experience with my Grandmother and her Cancer. But My experience and that of the comic being similar are irreverent.
In all seriousness, not many artists draw such a captivating experience that shows all emotions of such an even, likes, pain, love, confusion, heart break, struggle, a certain feel of having the will to press on when others would give up. These are things that get lost in most furry comics as most are just about the sex. Now I wont lie, the intimate portion of this comic was very nicely done and showed just how much the two characters love each other, and is pleasing to the eye, but, its not the main point of the comic. And I appreciate and respect that you have made it so.
Artists like yourself that put the time and effort into making something this riveting, have my utmost respect and my thanks for giving us in the community the pleasure of enjoying the fine work you have created.
That being said I thank you for this comic, I look forward to its completion, and I very much look forward to more of your wonderful work in the future.
As a Side note, i would really love to know, is this story based off of a true event? Or just a compilation of others experience all rolled into something that can relay a beautiful message?
Much love,
~'Lijah
In all seriousness, not many artists draw such a captivating experience that shows all emotions of such an even, likes, pain, love, confusion, heart break, struggle, a certain feel of having the will to press on when others would give up. These are things that get lost in most furry comics as most are just about the sex. Now I wont lie, the intimate portion of this comic was very nicely done and showed just how much the two characters love each other, and is pleasing to the eye, but, its not the main point of the comic. And I appreciate and respect that you have made it so.
Artists like yourself that put the time and effort into making something this riveting, have my utmost respect and my thanks for giving us in the community the pleasure of enjoying the fine work you have created.
That being said I thank you for this comic, I look forward to its completion, and I very much look forward to more of your wonderful work in the future.
As a Side note, i would really love to know, is this story based off of a true event? Or just a compilation of others experience all rolled into something that can relay a beautiful message?
Much love,
~'Lijah
My former boss and his wife are going through this right now. She's especially fighitng the number of pills she's on for medication. Every one gives her new symptoms that they then give her more goddamn pills for. He was just talking about how sometimes she doesn't know who or where she is.
Shit...hits me right in the soul....
Shit...hits me right in the soul....
You know, I did not see this part of the story before I saw your most resent, but I still gotta say, you created 2 hell of a good characters. I like the boldness of doing a story like this. It's a subject matter you rarely seen done in comic for (regardless of the gender or sexual orientation of the characters). You created GOOD CHARACTERS, which is to be commended.
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