Not bad looking, but aren't the phasers normally mounted int eh forward and rear hulls instead of the center, and the shuttle bays in the center typically on Gorn ships? I also take it it's a late or post General War design due to having gotten ahold of Gatlings.

Also, any reason it's running an R instead of two Ses for the plasma mount? You'd get a bit more damage, and as I recall in-universe, the only two size class 3 ships to mount Rs are the War Eagle hull and the Killerhawk, because the War Eagle Hulls are designed around the launcher itself due to physical size and the shock of launching, and the Killerhawk again had some special equipment or something similar to handle the shock. (And KHs were typically relegated to base assaults because of maintanance issues due to that.) Or is this ship normally used in missions like base assaults?

Gattling phasers were concidered standard fare after the general war. This ship is a radical new design, not a regurgitated rehash of old designs. its based on my personnal battle experience. Why not two S Type Plasmas? One, much higher energy cost to fire them over the R-Type, Almost twice as much or plain twice as much, all matters on what rules your using. Second, the R-Type not only did almost the same damage as two S-Types but did so at better range and at far better speed as well, and third. The BPV cost of a single R-Type is ten points less than two S-Types. Giving you almost the same firepower for a massive cost savings in both energy and BPV. As for the romulan designs they were both the equivelent of light crusers, The cost of the cloaking device limited the size of the ship immensely. Of course you need to reinforce the hull to make a light cruser carry an R-Type. But this is a heavy cruser and is a different matter entirely. The simple fact why the Gorn were not allowed to mount an R-Type while the romulans were, even though they did not have to pay for the supposed "Reinfocement" of there hulls in there BPV cost was because the Gorn were regulated to being nothing more than a Federation bloodsop and a Romulan target. As for the central mount of the phasers, one word. Psudo-fighters. They like to attack from all directions and if you cannot lay down a good array of phaser defense you are asking to be space junk, especially against romulan fighters who are equipped with the cloaking device.
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Basically it's a X-2 design then without the X-tech? Also, I believe the Killerhawk was actually based on the Firehawk, which is the 3rd gen Heavy Cruiser hull. If you have any of the older Commander's Edition stuff though, the Gorn X-ships had their Ses upgraded to Rs(though now they have Ms instead, I think). I was just curious since you didn't state what era it was designed for initially.

i really didnt think this was x tech since it has fewer than the normal amount of torps, i dont see why it has to be concidered x tech when it just mounts one type R that has been around since the begining of the game. Everybody who plays with me agrees with donald miller and the rest. any ship that can carry two central torp mounts can mount an R-type, most dont because they have a tendancy to want to mount a pair of S-types as well which causes the shock problems. In this design i get around the shock problems by simply having the R-type as my only heavy torp and only carry two F-types and an array of Ds as back up and one of the Fs are mounted backwards. Not exactly straining the hull to its limits. I basically designed it as an upgrade duing the general war for the almost two centuries old Allosaur. Lets face it, the upgrades and new ships that come down from Armadillo for the Gorn are plain pathetic. Not to mention way overpriced. In my game me and the Kizintis get togeather and start an alliance of our own and form the GKA, an interesting alternate history. Me personnaly ive always found Xtech to be a bit over the top, takes a lot of fun out of the game.
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I meant X-tech as in it was a brand new design departing some from their normal design themes(such as the shuttle placement), and even the War Cruisers and War Destroyers stayed pretty close to that, not as in true X-tech. Something that may have been built just before the 1st-gen X-ships, or at the same time.

Also sounds like an interesting alliance... did you both curl around the Fed's norther borders?

Hmm... i hadn't really thought about it that way. whenever you design a new ship you basically have to design a new hull so i felt free to move things about, besides, the idea here was to be cheap, durable but effective and that required a whole new rethink on the idea of a heavy cruiser, besides, most of the weapons available half way through the war didn't even exist at the time and the Gorn had no where to put them on there older vessels.
Operation Silk Road. A line of stations, basically border bats starting six hexes out from behind federation territory, a base every six hexes leading to a dual star base emplacement, one Gorn, one Kizinti. The federation had something to say about it but since it was for the purposes of trade and was six hexes off there rear border, just short of being able to launch any sort of attack on federation interests, they didn't really have much authority to do anything about it, though it did undermine the Federation long term plan to annex the Gorn and Kizinti in as subject races to the Federation, something they had been trying to find a way to do for decades now. The resulting power block the two established threw the balance of power into something of a mess, Gorn ships could be seen patrolling the borders of Kizinti space, much to the detriment of Klingon raiders testing the Kizinti defenses. And the Romulans found themselves on the wrong end of ship killing drones on the Gorn border thanks to the new Kizinti Stone Cat heavy cruisers being stationed there. The problem was the two big alien species seem to get along a bit too well for anyone else's comfort. Even worse the Gorn and Kizinti both are in the middle of experimenting with each others weaponry technology, the Kizinti with an eye for the Gorn's Plasma F and the Gorn on the disruptor as a secondary weapon mount. Even worse, rumors have it that the GKA has been in contact with the Tholians, yet another race that has been pushed a bit too far by the major powers. It is not known at this time what long term effects such a sharing of knowledge between these two races might have or what they might do in the future, but it is certainly making the major powers of the alpha quadrant nervous...
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My mate plays SFB too and the gorn are his fav >8)

The Gorn want your furry behind! Mmm.. mammal fur!

Eeek!

Gorn were taken down by a simple mandate from Gene Roddenberry regarding costuming and makeup: The actor's eyes and mouth have to be visible in any alien design. He didn't want aliens who couldn't emote, which is to his credit (trying to make aliens seem more, er, human.) But with the technology these days, and considering they've already had one completely digital alien race, there's no reason the Gorn couldn't come back. That would have been great to explore with Enterprise. Too bad they fucked the show up completely with all the time-travel bullshit, pissing off all the loyal trekkies who had watched everything Trek for twenty years, and completely butt-raping the franchise. But I'm a tad bitter about that, I guess.

You and me both! damn that was depressing! Its like they intended to just erase captain kirk's era entirely! I wish i could bombard them all from orbit, its the only way to be sure...
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And now they're making that movie with "Academy Kirk"... x..x

Really? oh geeze, that makes me queezy...

Ehh i fear they would have become the standart evilguy aliens race anyway

Scalies rule... even star treck :D

Hydran Hellbores for the win!!!

Enveloping plasma's more fun if you can time it right... you get to see the look on the enemy captain's face as he sees his doom heading straight for him. Hellbores are too fast for that. ^..~

Well yes, but Orion Pirates can do both

Orion pirates? Set plasmas to stuff and mount!
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Yo ho!

Never played SFB, to my regret. But I did play the PC game based off of it, Starfleet Command. Of course, I was never very much good at it.
But yes, the gorn effing rule.

I know this is a bit of a dig, but try this for irony, I play SFB too, or at least used to, haven't played it in a age.

What race do I play? Romulans.

Heh, the romulans are pretty cool but i never liked the fact that they had every advantage imaginable, cloaking device, mauler technology, the best torps, great ships, great weapons... And the fact that every time the gorn get a new weapon or technology the romulans were the ones who deploy it first. First ship to ever deploy the S Plasma torp? a romulan ship, even though the gorn were supposed to have invented it. No idea why but i dont think anyone at SFB takes the gorn seriously. It makes it damn hard to play them sometimes...
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What is the arc on the R?