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Holy Evangelical Empire of Northern America and Alaska
Great coat of arms of the Holy Evangelical Empire of Northern America and Alaska.
Yes, I would prefer this, and after all i have read about him, John Adams would have, too.
Yes, I would prefer this, and after all i have read about him, John Adams would have, too.
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http://expansivedlc.com/wp-content/.....-1920x1080.jpg Inspiration? Though, I have to ask... what've you read that led you to that conclusion of Washington?
I read a biography about him; he wanted to be adressed as "Hs Majesty, the President" until fellows convinced him this might be a bit off, and was sa dhe could not be president for his life... he had huge, feudal property with hundreds of slaves... Seems to be he was a royalist at heart.
I've always read it was John Adams, the second president, who believed that the President deserved a more "regal" title; "His Excellency, defender of Liberty, the President of the United States". Washington insisted on "Mr. President" only. Furthermore, he had a chance to become King/dictator. The Newburgh Conspiracy. His soldiers, frustrated with Congress, wanted Washington to replace Congress with a military dictatorship. He declined, upholding the ideals of republicanism. As the first President, he set the precedent, and was rather firm on a limit of 2 terms. He never even ran the third time, despite many people wanting him to.
And Plantations, though similar, are not feudal in nature. That would imply that "Plantation Owner" was a hereditary, aristocratic title, and that slaves had recognition as people. Yes, it's even worse of a situation than a feudal property, but it was hardly Washington's fault- famously, he set free his slaves in his will, one of two slave-holding Founding Fathers to do so, along with Jefferson. The only reason he didn't in life is because, through a technicality, most of his slaves belonged to his wife, and on a sentimental note, freeing only some slaves would break up families.
And Plantations, though similar, are not feudal in nature. That would imply that "Plantation Owner" was a hereditary, aristocratic title, and that slaves had recognition as people. Yes, it's even worse of a situation than a feudal property, but it was hardly Washington's fault- famously, he set free his slaves in his will, one of two slave-holding Founding Fathers to do so, along with Jefferson. The only reason he didn't in life is because, through a technicality, most of his slaves belonged to his wife, and on a sentimental note, freeing only some slaves would break up families.
If it is, I don't think it's as extensive as the British Empire was, and it also seems to me that it's more of a financial and economic empire than a political one. Sure, we own a couple territories, but then we'd just be arguing over how many other nations you have to own before you become an empire.
I will admit, though, I'm not much of a student of history or politics. I have heard a lot of negative things about my country though, some of which are quite false, and it makes me a little less receptive to criticism of it. When you love your home country, and people bandy about lies and falsehoods about it, you tend to give a very skeptical eye to any negative information.
On the other hand, yes, I know my country has problems. Organized crime, corrupt politicians, a black market that likes to kidnap foreigners, moral degeneracy. My only complaint is that some talk as if these sins do not go beyond our borders, that it's only the "big, bad USA" that does any evil in the world. It's more accurate to say that we're just the biggest kid on the block, and it has given us a bit of a complex. And a target on our back. It's made some of us who are just trying to live good, honest lives rather tired when we hear of yet another foreigner making a snide remark about how we're evil, no-good, or greedy because of this or that reason.
The USA has no monopoly on evil. It's part of the human race, no matter what system you put in place to govern them. Is it really fair to say America is evil when the reality is that it's just the actions of individuals? Our government is not the same as the average citizen, and we're big enough that there's quite a lot of diversity here. We're almost the same as Europe, except that we all speak the same language, more or less, and our states haven't been around as long as Germany or France.
I'm sure we qualify as an Empire of some kind by someone's definition. But as for me, I've no interest in my country being an Empire of any sort, and I'm very, very tired of people who don't know me or my homeland always talking down to us. We're not perfect. And with all our problems, I really hope we're not the best country in the world. So could we please scale back on the pot shots? All it does is rile people up and make Americans like me far less likely to listen to any valid point you may have.
If you want to make a point, to show some spots my country might need work in, that's fine. You just need to make it without phrasing it like an accusation. If, on the other hand, you just want to make potshots at us without bothering to consider whether they're true... then I and my fellow Americans will ignore you.
We get it. People hate us. Can we please move the conversation forward to something that will benefit everyone instead of just pissing one party off? (Not that we don't need waking up from time to time, but making every statement an attack just isn't helping.)
I will admit, though, I'm not much of a student of history or politics. I have heard a lot of negative things about my country though, some of which are quite false, and it makes me a little less receptive to criticism of it. When you love your home country, and people bandy about lies and falsehoods about it, you tend to give a very skeptical eye to any negative information.
On the other hand, yes, I know my country has problems. Organized crime, corrupt politicians, a black market that likes to kidnap foreigners, moral degeneracy. My only complaint is that some talk as if these sins do not go beyond our borders, that it's only the "big, bad USA" that does any evil in the world. It's more accurate to say that we're just the biggest kid on the block, and it has given us a bit of a complex. And a target on our back. It's made some of us who are just trying to live good, honest lives rather tired when we hear of yet another foreigner making a snide remark about how we're evil, no-good, or greedy because of this or that reason.
The USA has no monopoly on evil. It's part of the human race, no matter what system you put in place to govern them. Is it really fair to say America is evil when the reality is that it's just the actions of individuals? Our government is not the same as the average citizen, and we're big enough that there's quite a lot of diversity here. We're almost the same as Europe, except that we all speak the same language, more or less, and our states haven't been around as long as Germany or France.
I'm sure we qualify as an Empire of some kind by someone's definition. But as for me, I've no interest in my country being an Empire of any sort, and I'm very, very tired of people who don't know me or my homeland always talking down to us. We're not perfect. And with all our problems, I really hope we're not the best country in the world. So could we please scale back on the pot shots? All it does is rile people up and make Americans like me far less likely to listen to any valid point you may have.
If you want to make a point, to show some spots my country might need work in, that's fine. You just need to make it without phrasing it like an accusation. If, on the other hand, you just want to make potshots at us without bothering to consider whether they're true... then I and my fellow Americans will ignore you.
We get it. People hate us. Can we please move the conversation forward to something that will benefit everyone instead of just pissing one party off? (Not that we don't need waking up from time to time, but making every statement an attack just isn't helping.)
Very good statemant. It is indeed the leading power in the section of politics, economy, and too military which makes me claim the USA being an empire, in the meaning of how dominant it is.
Neither the EU or Russia, possibly in some ways the Chinese, can be that ambitous and influential. Look how most of the so called Western World actually copy the American lifestyle: Like Rome, Washington - so to speak - influences daily life in an incredible complete way. That is what defines an Empire for me, the commulation of economic and military power and a cultural influence spreading way over the territory actually owned or governed.
That is not a bad thing at all
Neither the EU or Russia, possibly in some ways the Chinese, can be that ambitous and influential. Look how most of the so called Western World actually copy the American lifestyle: Like Rome, Washington - so to speak - influences daily life in an incredible complete way. That is what defines an Empire for me, the commulation of economic and military power and a cultural influence spreading way over the territory actually owned or governed.
That is not a bad thing at all
Not a bad thing? Huh. Most of the times when I hear people call us an Empire, it's in a negative connotation. I'm not sure if I want us to be one, but I guess if it happens, the best we can do is try to be the best empire we can be, instead of becoming something that'll have its soldiers used as villains in future films.
I feel bad for Germany at times. One really bad regime took power, and now they get to see German troops (granted, under Nazi control, but still) gunned down, beaten up, or killed any number of ways, over and over. All fictional, sure. But I can't help but wonder if some of them get tired of it.
On the other hand, those Germans opposed to the Nazis, and all the terrible things they did, might not mind shooting a few Nazis in a game. =P I suppose we'd have to ask someone who's German and remembers those days. I sure can't speak for them myself!
I feel bad for Germany at times. One really bad regime took power, and now they get to see German troops (granted, under Nazi control, but still) gunned down, beaten up, or killed any number of ways, over and over. All fictional, sure. But I can't help but wonder if some of them get tired of it.
On the other hand, those Germans opposed to the Nazis, and all the terrible things they did, might not mind shooting a few Nazis in a game. =P I suppose we'd have to ask someone who's German and remembers those days. I sure can't speak for them myself!
Well, one gets used to it :-/
To my statement: I personally love empires. Sure and granted, small territories have been a source for art and culture, as many small capitals stayed in competition. Just look at the late Holy Roman Empire or renaissance Italy.
Yet, Empires assured a larger area of permament peace, good standards in government (even in the Mongol empire which lasted just 25 - 50 years depending on definition, one could travel overland completely free of robbers, according to Marco Polo) and a somewhat equalisation of life style which made daily cooperaion and merchandise so much easier. Empires kept order and stateship to huge territories which mostly could and can not assure that in their own, as you cna see in Africa, Near and Middle East.I would have preferred to life in Babylonian Mesopotamia then in today's Iraq, Iran or Syria.
Therefore, in my view of stateship and policy, empires are not evil per definitionem. They are just a name for a special kind of state, as the USA are 8still) today
To my statement: I personally love empires. Sure and granted, small territories have been a source for art and culture, as many small capitals stayed in competition. Just look at the late Holy Roman Empire or renaissance Italy.
Yet, Empires assured a larger area of permament peace, good standards in government (even in the Mongol empire which lasted just 25 - 50 years depending on definition, one could travel overland completely free of robbers, according to Marco Polo) and a somewhat equalisation of life style which made daily cooperaion and merchandise so much easier. Empires kept order and stateship to huge territories which mostly could and can not assure that in their own, as you cna see in Africa, Near and Middle East.I would have preferred to life in Babylonian Mesopotamia then in today's Iraq, Iran or Syria.
Therefore, in my view of stateship and policy, empires are not evil per definitionem. They are just a name for a special kind of state, as the USA are 8still) today
Huh. I never thought of it that way. I guess it just goes to show you that you can't do just one thing. I just hope that we can be a just and fair empire, and at least have a good impact on the world. At the very least, I hope we leave behind some very smart and capable people when the empire falls. Sooner or later, security gets lax and the empire goes bankrupt. And like the Romans, we may find things will get a little ugly after we're gone.
I'll have to do my own part to help lessen and/or slow the collapse. If we can go out like the British Empire, that's probably a better deal for all involved. A slow fade is perhaps less "glorious", but at least it leaves the buildings standing!
I'll have to do my own part to help lessen and/or slow the collapse. If we can go out like the British Empire, that's probably a better deal for all involved. A slow fade is perhaps less "glorious", but at least it leaves the buildings standing!
That is indeed my point of view, too.
Look at the Balkan. After WWI, the austro-hungarian and the ottoman Empire had been detsroyed by the allies, and look what a mess it is know... S crush is always worse then a slow fade, so pray be attentive to the Chinese investments...
Look at the Balkan. After WWI, the austro-hungarian and the ottoman Empire had been detsroyed by the allies, and look what a mess it is know... S crush is always worse then a slow fade, so pray be attentive to the Chinese investments...
The only thing I would suggest is: "Don't rule the Americans out."
We've been described as washed up any number of time: After winning independence from England; after having our capital destroyed by England in 1812; during and after the Civil War; during the Depression of the 1930s; during and after the battles for Civil Rights; during and after Viet Nam; during the economic downturn of the 1970s and early 1980s ("Why don't the Americans just stay on their bases and give each other AIDs?" as one Japanese government official once said); after our domestic car manufacturers sank in reliability and sales; after we failed to build a supersonic civilian aircraft; after 911 and Iraq
We've been described as washed up any number of time: After winning independence from England; after having our capital destroyed by England in 1812; during and after the Civil War; during the Depression of the 1930s; during and after the battles for Civil Rights; during and after Viet Nam; during the economic downturn of the 1970s and early 1980s ("Why don't the Americans just stay on their bases and give each other AIDs?" as one Japanese government official once said); after our domestic car manufacturers sank in reliability and sales; after we failed to build a supersonic civilian aircraft; after 911 and Iraq
oops... Stupid American!
BUT... we keep coming back when we're not supposed to, to CREATE the internet - a series of AMERICAN computers originally linked to aid in science research; to create economic booms in the late 1980s, 90s and now (that will decline again but be back); with world-class automobiles that now dominate the Chinese auto market; with space exploration and medical breakthroughs and an entertainment industry work BILLIONS and BILLIONS.
Like it or not, the reality is of a world of angry, America-hating peoples from Russia to Europe to Africa to Asia who wear blue jeans and watch "Twilight" and "Star Trek" and "Harry Potter" (English written but American filmed) and who listen to Beyonce and who believe in freedom of the press and the right to vote and rights for women and gays and the possiblity of living (somewhat noisily) alongside people of different races and beliefs.
It's an American-shaped world, not because Americans are superior, but because Americans aren't afraid to tear down pomposity and elitism and snobbery and cheer humans on to do what they want to do. The American ideal is a human ideal - however flawed - and THAT is why everyone, ultimately, is American.
NYAH!
BUT... we keep coming back when we're not supposed to, to CREATE the internet - a series of AMERICAN computers originally linked to aid in science research; to create economic booms in the late 1980s, 90s and now (that will decline again but be back); with world-class automobiles that now dominate the Chinese auto market; with space exploration and medical breakthroughs and an entertainment industry work BILLIONS and BILLIONS.
Like it or not, the reality is of a world of angry, America-hating peoples from Russia to Europe to Africa to Asia who wear blue jeans and watch "Twilight" and "Star Trek" and "Harry Potter" (English written but American filmed) and who listen to Beyonce and who believe in freedom of the press and the right to vote and rights for women and gays and the possiblity of living (somewhat noisily) alongside people of different races and beliefs.
It's an American-shaped world, not because Americans are superior, but because Americans aren't afraid to tear down pomposity and elitism and snobbery and cheer humans on to do what they want to do. The American ideal is a human ideal - however flawed - and THAT is why everyone, ultimately, is American.
NYAH!
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