This is the greatest thing on the internet...

Heh. So what is a good reason to leave a website?

There isn't one. Everyone must love this one particular website forever and always, amen.

THE DICKS COMMAND YOU

In a time of no-drama when you feel like you want to branch out, THAT is a good reason. Free choice :P

I hate to say it, but it is like changing investments... you never want to do it because of emotion. Drama comes and goes, and a lot may be self-created. I know a lot of artists that I really like are here, and to me, that is what is important.

Yah, life is short, time is precious and changing sites all away would indeed be a poor investment of time!

That's more of a reason to start at other sites.
My opinion, there are 2 good reasons to leave a website.
1. Staff/admins of the site are being dicks to you personally, and I mean actually being dicks, not just you think they are.
2. Boredom.

AMEN 8U

Thank yoouuuuu x3

you shouldn't migrate to another website, you should expaaaaaand, flood the world with your artz ; P

Yush, that's a better way to approach it

Agreed. I can understand why laziness keeps people posting to one or two sites. Just remember, if you're an artist that wants your dicks out there for people to commission, watchers are just as lazy and don't want to have to search four different art sites AND your Tumblr AND your Twitter AND and and...

BUT, it's also a good idea to maximize exposure. There's no need to leave FA if you don't like the "community." Just don't talk to the ones you loathe. It's totes whatevs, yo.

I will fave this forever.

eternal cycle ahaha

Best view. As Lunalei said, don't move, expand, make use of all your fucking options. It's business. Business advertise on every channel they can.

Yeah u_U though I guess if one is just doing art as a hobby that is less of a concern

I was thinking that too.

so drama is eternal? :o

It's an eternal cycle Even tought i'm new to FA and the furry fandom (joined since mid December) i could see how exagerated the drama is in case of downtime.... really, the "dramameter" on the forums hit the roof ._.

true enough. x_x
I've been here almost 2 years--had an older account. And through those 2 accounts I've encountered drama. Mostly from weeaboos who are on FA.

I hate furry drama so much. One of the big reasons I don't get more involved in the furry community. Also, fur suits scare me. I should post my stuff on other sites but I am too lazy. And porn time already takes up too much time in my day.

Well I'm glad someone understands this :U

I neverr planned on moving, and probably wouldn't. If someone wants me to move, I charge a moving fee!

I hate this meme, but love this pic.
that proves its awesomness

This is drama

DAS RYTE! Much drama is to be extracted from the average furry brain!

I will never move, FA is something I grew up with, and while it might be nice to have 1 backup, I will not leave my fanbase that i have worked for over some petty drama stuff that will blow over in 1 week. besides, those people that have left will probably come back in 2 weeks, like usual

haha this is awesome. Well done

Perfect! Or it could have been if it wasn't for that meme -_- Good job though!

I felt the meme fit perfectly here XD

But it's soo overused DX

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A lot of people aren't actually leaving, just saying they're also elsewhere. The people who are leaving have their (legitimate) reasons. Either way, it's good to have a presence elsewhere in the event that FA does finally implode one day.

I think my main issue is that people do this as a reaction to drama, not out of their own free will at a time when things are going well.

Action often requires a catalyst.

Hopefully not the awful Catalyst from Mass Effect 3 >n>

WE ARE THE MASTURBATOR OF YOUR DESTINY.
NOTHING THROBS AGAINST US.
PR0N-DRAMA CANNOT BE STOPPED.
EMBRACE EMOTIONAL MENSTRUATION.

"The people who are leaving have their (legitimate) reasons"

i've read alot of those journals, and not once did they have a reason other than "jumping on the bandwagon" aka because my friends are doing it too. The ones that do have legitimate reasons are far and few tbh

A million times this.

thank you

Or they heard about it from their friends and want to go where their friends are going and/or made their own decision to leave.

Aka jumping on the bandwagon because other people are doing it too, but to be honest, good riddance

I don't understand why you can't just respect their decision to leave. How exactly are they hurting you by doing so?

Unless they give a good reason to leave (and they exist and are not apart of this situation) and not this "my friends are doing it so I'm doing it to look cool hahaha FA will burn when I leave", why? You've seen this pattern before: drama starts randomly, furries cry and run away to different sites, furries claim they will get new business, it gets slow, and they come crawling back when they realize their core fanbase was left behind on the place that has the most community.

If anything, it goes in my favor and anyone who is left behind who still draws, because I/them get to have all the fans that go looking for new artists to watch. If people leave because it's the cool thing to do, and they have nothing to offer in terms of artwork/ect, then oh well, not my problem.

They're not doing it to 'look cool', they're doing it because they take issue with the way the site is being run and they've had enough. They don't expect FA to burn when they leave. And some of them are leaving for good as others have done in the past. The fans who really enjoy their work will follow them and continue to buy their art.

"They're not doing it to 'look cool', they're doing it because they take issue with the way the site is being run and they've had enough. "

The amount of journals that I have read say otherwise, and they are alot since I watch alot of people. thankfully there are a greater amount of "STFU about leaving and leave quietly already" journals too

"They don't expect FA to burn when they leave"

No, they expect a great flood of people to follow after them and then an exodus to FA, which won't happen anytime soon

"And some of them are leaving for good as others have done in the past. "

They are not apart of this situation, as said before. We are focusing on the ones that makes tons of I'm leaving journals, then return in a few weeks after boredom when the draam goes away 9and than another furry makes a shit-storm and causes another storm)

" The fans who really enjoy their work will follow them and continue to buy their art."

And there are alot of fans that do not want to leave/follow because managing muti-accounts is tiresome for others (and the artists). You cannot forget about those people too. This is more than people who make jobs based off of their commissions, this is also about people who do FREE ARTWORK/hobby related stuff too

The vast majority of journals I've seen haven't been people leaving at all, but just saying "Hey, I also post my art over here." 'cause it's a good idea to have somewhere to fall back on if/when FA goes down again.

We can agree to disagree on this I guess, since we watch different people. I've had to unwatch 10 people in 2 days because they emptied their entire galleries and left behind nothing to remember, and not even noting people with a warning. BTW, those journals I'm fine with (including those that make a business out of their artwork here), i'm more concerned witht he ones that get repeated when the other storms apeared on FA along time ago

This is also not an attack on you, but if this drama storm is what is pushing others to leave the site (or the fandom all together), then by all means go quietly, but it says something about the person if it took them that long to leave already, when there have been MORE seriously stuff in the past here that should have given people reason to leave during that time

Those are pretty much the reasons for staying on FA too.

Not planning on going anywhere, but it's nice to have options.

If options you meaning maybe one place, unless you make art as a hobby and not a career

No, I mean redundancy, for those times when FA goes down, or should FA shut down completely. I've already had three furry art sites close under me, and to think FA is going to last forever is simply naive.

Art is how I put food on the table, and to me, having your livelihood dependent on what is essentially one person's hobby is not a smart thing to do.

"No, I mean redundancy, for those times when FA goes down, or should FA shut down completely. I've already had three furry art sites close under me, and to think FA is going to last forever is simply naive."

To think that it's going to go under is also naive too, and kinda pessimistic also. I have hope that things will get better, as this is not the first time things like this has happen and then backfired in a way that favors good for the site. There is too much of a community for it to go down any time soon, no matter how many people leave

"Art is how I put food on the table, and to me, having your livelihood dependent on what is essentially one person's hobby is not a smart thing to do. "

But you cannot pin your situation on people who do not see it as a full career (or those who do have an art job but not on FA), if anything. I am not responsible for your loss of a job here, and neither is the Todex guy either.

This is not an attack on you, but this overall situation that has happen is just a bunch of stressed out here say "he said she said" nonsense that has been done before on this site, and with people running all over the place, it gets kinda tiring to see it repeat over and over. Wait till it blows over in a week or two is what i'm doing

That make it clear that leaving FA for no or stupid reasons isn't enough to make them leave forever.
Following friends is quite the most reasonable reason >.< still FA awesomeness can make them come back anyway! ^^
I'M GLAD THAT I MET THIS COMMUNITY AND I WILL ALWAYS BE!!!

They'll come back in a few weeks or months, they always do when drama stirs up

I think that's clear enough :3

Seriously, people are just jumping on the bandwagon because it's the cool kid thing to do and they don't really know / give a shit about "the incident".

I'm sorry to say this, but I don't get the graph...

Whenever there is drama on a furry website, the users will react the same, with a slight time displacement. They will act as if they have a feedback-loop and heat each other up with hate, anger and counter-drama, then ultimately this will climax in some declaring how they will leave the site forever and never come back.. and then after a few months they come back anyway.

Oh, I've never really noticed that at all to be honest. The only drama I have seen are when there have been journals about something terrible having happened in their life and not on the site. The only thing with something like this was the recent downtime there was as they were upgrading servers (I think it was that, it had something to do with servers.)

I need to fav the fuck outta this.
It's like seeing scurried sheep flocking over to the desert and called it home because THE JOURNAL CHAIN TOLD THEM SO.

OH NOE RUN AWAY TO WEASYL!
KK BORED NOW. -goes back-
_{I might understand why and what is happening behind the scenes but like all scandals, everyone has an obsession of moral absolutism then later forget about it and come back.}

Wait that was a strategically unwise word-choice given the current nature of the drama. LET ME REPHRASE!
HIDE IN THE DESERT AND PERFORM UNAUTHORISED REPRODUCTIVE ACTIVITIES WITH THE SCARED SHEEP!

*snickers* Nice.

http://s936.photobucket.com/user/fi.....lause.gif.html

Sums up my feelings on this nicely.

this is so true,nothin like a good bit of furry drama...

FA has too much of an established user base to have any other site overtake it. Any artist that "moves" because of some silly reason is only shooting themselves in the foot, especially if they live off of commissions.

Absolutely! Maybe emotional outbursts can overpower reason though

Wat?

Thank god someone finally posted a graph of this. Really I think its times like this that reveal who the real flakes are.


I know I have times I don't agree with some people, or admins. But I realize that I don't wanna start all over on another web-sight that seems to be filled with all the come-and-go furs. Simply put, the only time I will "abandon ship" is when its truly sinking, not every time it hits some waves or when the power flickers.

You are amazing

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ca/ca8.....f2131d5fdb.jpg

Why thank you kindly Good Sir!

The way i would act ^^

Don't forget about those who go "unlike all of you furfags, imma find a reel job, bye bye", but end up making another account or just clear all the journals and make one tittled something along the lines "Comissions open"

I don't get this graph it looks very confusing I know that the orange represents migration to other sites and the green the drama, but it looks so all over the place.

The relation between these is found in the spacing along the time axis and the slopes leading up to the intensity maximum. :P

so wow many insight much understand

i think i may be a complete imbicile because i cant quite figure this one out. in laymans terms, what does this graph say?

You need to read it from the left to the right.
The graph says that there is a time-offset reaction to every drama instance that has a roughly similar intensity and duration and changes little in the long-term.
Simplified:
[drama]
"I'MMA LEAVE FA FOREVER, OH LOOK AT THIS SITE IT'S SO MUCH BETTER WOW!"
-2 days later-
"OKAY I AM BORED I'LL GO BACK"
- repeat!-

ah. ok i get it now

I, personally, don't see why people want to leave because of drama and downtime. That just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

I have left one website, but that's simply because it was a cesspit that was moderated by people who only wanted your money, and frankly, I didn't feel like paying anything for a bunch of low life shit-suckers who don't even do their job properly. I feel better for getting off of it, and honestly, there aren't too many decent Art sites out there. I'll stick to the few that I'm on regardless.

If you really must migrate, for GOD'S SAKE! leave your artwork up!

Oh gosh yes, leave it up so people can enjoy, otherwise it's a big hunt to look for them all over the internet

YEAH! So inconvenient when you just want to have a quick FAP D8< Imean quick outburst of art appreciation!

I don't fully understand, or care, about the current situation. And I'm already submitting my art in Weasyl, dA and Inkbunny, so I don't have to move to anywhere.

I not get the graph and what it mean.....

nods. you are true about this ^^ just moving for some days of isues is sissy wah wah

I'm beginning to wonder if Weasyl's only reputation is being a place to call "sanctuary" when things change a little around here.

I'm looking forward to a new interface, and honestly don't care who is in on it nor the drama at all, but unless something absolutely catasptrophic happens I see no reason leave a place where I spent a lot of time establishing myself.

I think that is the main reason why people migrate to it. At least for the moment!

And indeed. I'm not that phased about new interfaces though, I mean if I wanted it badly enough, the site's styling could be overridden in a browser extension anyway :D

I think something in terms of being able to customize the background or something that gives a little more customization to the userpage would be well enough. But either way, some change to the outward appearance is alright.

Yes. Actually someone just should fucking copy CGhub and mix it up with some features from Pixiv and I'd be in heaven for the rest of my life XD

One way or another, the fact that FA is coing to change is inevitable. Some people freak out and go all drama queen when things such as this start to happen.

On a side note,

I find Weasyl is difficult to navigate most of the time. I found a journal that explains the issue:

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5422907/

This should be a wallpaper.

I adore you for doing this!

Thank you for this.
Though I love it when people rage quit the site because then I can I watched them and lower how much art I have to look through in my submissions folder...at least until I find an other artist who's as good as the last guy.

I have no comprehension of what this graphic is meant to represent. And apparently, I'm the only one.

If you haven't caught a glimpse of the current FA drama (hint: Site update journal at Fender's account is the trigger) then you shouldn't worry about it XD

Ah, I haven't, so everything makes sense now!

Remember Todex, this cheeky iguana is an fa guy because iPod, and we all know I'm the only reason you're here :3

Wow so true
Much cheeky
So scaly

Yes I'm afraid it is true. You(r penis) is the only reason I'm here!

Saving the day one dick ata time

YES! SO GET READY FOR THE CUMSHOT OF SALVATION!

HALELUAH

drama llamas

Drama DOGES, these days!

drama doges doesn't rhyme .<>.

BUT I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK

No idea what the recent drama is, but still lol'd

much drama
such fury
great screaming
wow
much blame
such deletions
wow

Just look around; I'm sure people will fill you in XD

wow... I'll just say that I'm glad I don't read journals now...

Yeeep. But logic doesn't apply to drama reactions!

there is furry drama anywhere there are furries. jus sayin

To be fair, the current drama (which I cannot name) seems to be a genuine "straw that broke the camel's back" for a lot of people.

I actually hate the decisions by certain admins (especially this one), but I have never been fond of them and I'm here for the people, not them.

Still, I wish good luck to the people leaving.

For the record, it's not that the site is undergoing an overhaul. That's not the problem here. It's just that stating the problem gets you in trouble.

U_U/ The emotions of every party involved in the drama are cooking up high. I can understand how both sides try to choke each other at the moment but personally.. I hate the way corporations abuse their cheap factory workers and yet I'm still buying their products. So this is no different, what the owners of the site do is irrelevant to me as long as the place is functional.

Eh, same, pretty much.

Though I can still get angry, it's just that boycotting at this point is cutting off my nose to spite my face.

i'm confused about the downtime part, there was downtime the past few days?

Naw :P Not in a chronological order; just put it there because it happens from time to time XD

It means nothing to me but I am forced to listen to my shark overlord so I have little choice on the matter.

Wow
Such peoplephobia
Many attention seeks
so histrionic
I haven't been here very long, yet I've noticed how dramatic it can get here.i

Yeah so just stay away from the emotionally unstable drama people and all shall be fiiiiiiiine!

It's just funny how soooo many people I'm following are suddenly leaving links to their other pages, and seeing as it's partially relevant, how a lot of people become mentally and emotionally unstable in response to doge.

XD Well I am not fond of memes when they're being thrown into the wild without a very good reason. But since the doge meme uses a furry species AND underlines the nature of simple thoughts....... I figured it would apply very well to the majority of affected users that are the major players in drama outbursts. >-> <-< >_> And indeed!

Oooh, very clever of you, o wonderfully evil dickologist.

Excellent idea, I should do graphs like these myself when I wanna rant about something... Sure will spare all my friends' nerves, haha. And yeah, making decisions that involve WIPING material from one place to migrate to another are never to be taken lightly, and that's not restricted to galleries on FA. Think maybe a job that you wanna quit for a seemingly better one, or even small shit like a character in an MMO that you wanna delete, and so forth. Never rush in blind!

You should do more art in general. mister :P YOUR GALLERY. IT IS NEGLECTED

I'll get around to that, for now college is demanding all of my attention and energy. Thanks for acknowledging me, though. ^^

The nice furs keep me here.
And the memories.
And the dicks.
AND THE MEMORIES OF DICKS

THE MEMORIES OF YOUR OWN DICK HAUNT YOU

The lonely "why this happened" keeps making me laugh.

I love it. :D

Unfortunately, this is so true. Based on my experience on FA for 2 1/2 years and I have seen it many times like this when they leave FA and then they came back again and so on repeatedly.

I'm not really interested to join Weasyl since I felt that FurAffinity is still remains as my home website for anthro fandom community. ^.=.^

Daz right, you still have more wangs to post here! You shall never leave. NEVERRRRRRRRRR

No worries, I shall post it soon when I gets done more of them this year.

Leaving for Drama is never a good reason because other sites will ultimately have their own drama at some point in time. SoFurry had theirs before correcting their website from the absolutely abysmal design they had between what we have now and what came after yiffstar.

The biggest problem is that the UI design of FA is slowly being replaced by better and more efficient ones that offer more features. Generally, more and better features alone can sap away users from large sites. Sites like Weasyl have nifty features and things that can draw in people, and better reading formats and even mobile friendly designs can drastically increase the desirability of a content based site.

FA really only has content going for it. That's it. And as a content-based site, it should be working hard to promote and improve content delivery and user experience of that content. Working with artists, writers, photographers, etc as well as content consumers and their input to make the site efficient, clean, and a better experience should be it's primary goals. Instead, it's stagnated while other sites step up to meet the demands users have.

Whenever those spikes occur (I know it's a made up graph), it's bad for FA. Not because of the thousands of journals going "LEAVIN FA FOREVAHS! ...okay maybe not.", but because content is dispersed. Sometimes by the most popular artists. Every time content is dispersed amongst the various sites, FA has a little less going for it. It doesn't matter that it's the largest site around, because this isn't the first "largest site around" to get replaced by competition. MySpace used to be huge! ...now who uses it? Facebook is starting to see the same issues. Online history is full of examples of this too: Netscape, AOL, Lycos, Geocities, Friendstr, etc.

In the furry world, there used to be VCL. Big site, lots of artists. It's still around last I recall, but who honestly goes to it anymore? FA replaced one of the largest furry art sites with a better user experience. The problem is, the same is going to happen to FA if the 2.0 site isn't finished and in beta access soon (like how SoFurry handled theirs). Given the drama going on, I doubt it will see the light of day in time.

The real issue for FA is whether or not it can push out 2.0 before it reaches the "apex" of new users and contents in a graph before it starts the decline. Because once the decline starts, it becomes increasingly harder to pull back. It's not instant though, they will have some time. There will be no flood of users fleeing FA. It's going to be a slow change like was seen in VCL.

Donations are a whole other story.

Mr. Maxwell, your working brain continues to get noticed!

Hrm as far as I see it, Weasyl didn't reinvent the wheel; the same features are present on other sites as well, just horribly buried under loads of crap that no normal user ever needs.
Me, I'm always against a website targeting various content forms and think that isolation for specific types works best. Photography onto it's own subdomain with separated databse if necessary, same for stories, same for artwork.. I mean I am quoting Cghub or Pixiv excessively because both only permit 2D/3D artwork and nothing else and it works so wonderfully to increase the overall standard of content :U I wish more places were that clear on what they want.
What happens when a site tries to please everyone is apparent on Deviantart, it's a horrible mess with really retarded average users :I YES I AM OFFENDING 99% OF ALL DA-USERS RIGHT NOW- I DON'T GIVE A SHIT!

The content dispersion IS a problem. Especially since many people are fleeing onto Tumblr, where no tag guidelines are established and the majority of people don't even CARE to tag their uploads in the first place. Finding an artist there is hopeless.
Haha VCL was dying even when I first got access to the interwebs XD Must have been around 2001?... 2002? Even then it was not that interesting.

I don't see the apex for FA being reached yet, and even then due to it's massive userbase the decline would take years. I am reluctant to invest more time into other furry art sites because their userbases are microscopic and not worth the effort. As business-y as that sounds :V

Braiiiiiins!
Aw, thank ya's! :D

Certainly Weasyl isn't necessarily the poster child of changing everything, they just happen to have a plug in making transfer to their site super easy. Not sure if the plugin was done in house or by someone outside, but it's clear there's a benefit for them there. I'd say SoFurry has some nicer features and UI designs, even if I don't agree with all of it, it's an improvement.

That said, specialty websites are nice, for sure. I liked when yiffstar was essentially a 'story' website. But at the same time, there's always a place for the "big box store" of content, and competition is always good for each site. That a site like Deviant Art sucks is a bit complicated as it suffers from the same problems as FA. It's too big to change quickly and for the longest time there were no other alternatives. There still really isn't... In fact, me and a friend joke about how we should invest in a start up website dedicated to gay art that isn't yaoi, bara, or anything centric. Put in quality categorizations/filters and watch it grow, because there's currently no website that I'm aware of filling this niche market. Y!gallery doesn't even come close with it's own major drama and heavy focus on yaoi...not surprisingly. It's hard to find quality masculine art there, to say the least.

Anyway, being the "everything from A to Z" website isn't impossible to do, it's just difficult and many sites don't pull it off well. I wouldn't use tumblr as a shining example since, despite being content based, they make it harder to find content (especially if adult). On FA, you have to, at a minimum, have certain tags flagged each submission. It has to include genders, art styling, medium, etc. Doesn't have to be accurate, but then you have SoFurry allowing other users to tag your work to completion, fixing the other half of the equation. At the end of the day, it comes down to good design, which newer and better ways to show the same content come up all the time.
http://www.wakeuplater.com/website-.....-websites.aspx
Here's a good example, and CNN is pretty dramatic I'd say. Their content didn't change, but better design came along and improved it in both useability, appearance, and many under the hood features that you don't readily see. It's probably mobile ready, tagged well if they even use that, and has the ability to share on social media. Minor things, but each little feature is something the competition may not have had at one point.

VCL died a slow death, and FA would be the same. I really doubt FA will, any time soon, reach it's apex. Couple years down the road? Maybe. It's totally understandable as a business point of view to not invest much in the other sites, but think of it this way. If you could get all the art from your favorite artists on another website that looked better and made it easier to view and get more great art...would you go there? For most of FA, that's all you'd need to pull people away from it. They just want their quality content and don't care about 90% of the rest of FA. This also describes the "silent majority" or whatever folks in politics call it these days. They largely don't care who wins (politically or site-wise), they just want good content/results.

I kind of avoided the topic a little last post, but when the people with money leave, that could be the point of downward slope for FA. It's never going to be instant, we won't see a day that will live in furry infamy (although FA sure does try!), because we have past examples of when major hubs die everywhere. It'll be years before FA is VCL 2.0, if they don't prevent it from happening in the first place. So yeah, no reason to worry or move, you got the right idea. Plus, you do awesome commissions and I just do hobby stuff, so you have financial reasons to stay! :P

Ha!! I'm only here because all my friends in the fandom are too, and I've met some more since joining up. Any art I have bought since then is purely incidental. I'd much rather return to uploading songs from my band, if we were still together.

So what exactly is going on!?

I like pie graph better.

At the rate of your nommage, no pie graph would be big enough

Well if you put two pie graph right next to reach other then add in furry drama divide by zero. You get infinity pie.

the less you communicate, the less drama there will be.

>-> People cause drama over external sources, too!

Has it ever occurred to You as well That people just like to complain about things too much that could've easily be resolved by closing or ignoring the subject.
Yea... me too, so best not to bother with such folk, believe me it's not worth the effort.

If you're using Google Chrome, the Waxpost plugin makes it easy to crosspost to Weasyl from FA.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/.....kfdaenjc?hl=en

I'm guessing you are bitching because it's easier for you if nobody migrates and you can use just one site to reach your entire audience. With Waxpost it is easy to have a presence on both.

I disagree with the whole tone of your submission especially the last part, but I can't be bothered getting into a discussion as to why.

Rossyfox do me a favor and don't comment on my submissions if your mental inadequacy makes you completely misinterpret their meaning and my intentions for posting them.

lmao

There little spike for me would be labelled "wanting to try new things" with no drama during that time. It's a shame these spikes are much bigger than that one.

Well you know how reluctant people are to try new things :P

I do not pay attention to about 99% of the drama that goes around here.

What's going on exactly?

Why must people change site when you can have all of them. It's like going to a bakery and only getting a slice instead of the whole thing. People these days. :l

I really do appreciate this pic. It describes the naive view of so many furries thinking that Weasyl is Nirvana, the land of milk and honey, etc. Honestly, compared to other modern websites, the interface is clunky and not as user-friendly for non-artists. As far as the admin thing goes, it's fine now, but we'll have to see what happens as the site grows in membership and more and more admins are needed. More admins means a higher probability of a dick slipping through (sadly, not the good kind of dick =P). Plus, my observation has been that Weasyl has not been able to really gain its own momentum in terms of growth and that it has only grown in bursts when something happens on alternative sites. Unless it can gain its own momentum, Weasyl has a risk of stagnating in the long term.

This. People seem to be banking on Weasyl being an incorruptable bastion, when we all know it's not going to happen.

It is possible as anything can be, and I am certainly not saying FA is any better. But I think it is important to be realistic about the alternatives.

Exactly.

So much drama. So many more doge.

Hello I R furry. I cant understand graph. can I has dick graph instead?

we stalkers allways have more then one account anyways

XD

Okay, I know what this image is trying to cover, but good lord why do you people still find that shit meme funny

So doge got it in to you then =w=

Well it fit in this case ;)

I come on less each time when they put in bad features like removing per-warning labels on pictures in searches. while the may be there in the features selection of somrone's gallery, it is not there in searches when you are looking for something or on the front page and you see that there are 50 scat pictures or somethign else that mkaes your stomach get physicially sick. ><

I have nothing against anyone or anyone my friends who like that stuff, I am talking about people like me who have to deal with the new changes that actually are bad.

I Miss thumbnails <3

now you can tell me how much of a pussy I am now for speaking out XD

Interesting.
Obviously I'm really late to the game on this one, but then when is the discussion not relevant.

The way I see it though, the graph doesn't really tell the whole story. There are people who claim the desire to leave FA completely in favor of somewhere else and then there are those who do simply branch out to the other galleries but who don't make too much of a fuss about nuking their FA profile. This has obviously been touched on elsewhere in this thread but my point is, I think it's safe to say that the latter type of person, whether artist or watcher, is far more common.

While it's true that these other sites get more activity during the points of drama, the more people use them, the more they come to enjoy using the sites, and use them more regularly. I still post to FA but I post a LOT more submissions to SoFurry now, partly because it's a lot more streamlined (no flood filter and mass upload tool is a combo breaker there).

So if you ask me, although drama is inevitable wherever you go, even if some people follow the trope and swallow their feet, in the end it still gets them trying out the other places more, and I'm okay with that.