tbh I hate angel dragons
cause then anything that looks like a dragon is apparently an angel dragon
its like

no
just no

THANK YOU

I understand like telephone is cute, and that's how angel dragon's started

BUT NOT EVERYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A DRAGON IS AN ANGELDRAGON

honestly

fucking angel dragons are CELESTIAL dragons
they're like, half dragon half HORSE

i drew this http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12654816/
and it apparently looks like telephone ONLY because he has no eyes
thats
the only way it looks similar

fuggin angel dragons have huge ass wings, not stubby ones
telephones suit just doesnt look like her actual sona because she wanted it to look cute

good lord i could rant all day about how narrowminded this fandom can be, but i will spare u my bitching

q___q your sona is cute af though

really? .-.

my eyes are blind too, THAT'S IT
nobody can be blind anymore! IT'S A TRADEMARK

it looks nothing like an angel dragon [though it it super adorable~ :>]

EXACTLY
this is so true, I love everything about this post you did-

I could rant right along side ya, SO MUCH CRAP

just because now she is a popufur, angel dragons are a big thing-
if her suit wasn't cute, she wouldn't be I don't think <<


Thank you

honestly
ive been drawing eyes like that before i even knew this fuggin fandom existed >l

ye i know my god [ty ty]

oh thANKS

ye, this drama and weird copy shit -- can totally write a book on what makes the people in this fandom cruddy and dramatic

And m'yeah, her old head was derpy looking, then she got the cute stuff done by pws and now she's popular cause bird whistle and cute face
psh

yOU ARE WELCOME

when i finish my fursuit i want to meet you someday q____q

I used to draw my eyes blind and red all the time, most of my human character's were like that- before I even KNEW about furry things.

welcome! :D

the only thing that sucks too-

is apparently my suit that I MADE, looks like a rip off >> but it looks like how I draw my character, were both blind- and I too have a bird whistle, but not a squeaker, an actual bird whistle- my character's NEVER had a voice, she's sounds like a dark bird [I have a warbler one] BUT IT'S LIKE UGH, damnit >> [mine: http://haypanda.tumblr.com/post/763.....being-a-weirdo ] Fun Fact: she was originally based off of loki and laki- the japanese fursuits

besides, I think my character has exsisted LONGER then telephone- almost 3 years.

yes yes yesssss!
ALL THE MEETINGS

[if you want, we can talk more on skype ^^ you seem freaking awesome, I need awesome friends :D]

I know ughughug

and yeah omfg
the only way itd look just like telephone was if you copied everything down to the patterns and colors and shit
my god do i hate people

and yeah i have whistles too qwq and a squeaky - cause squeaky is easier to use for me THOSE WHISTLES ARE HARD TO USE
and d'awe ; 3 ;
so cuteeueueuueeeeee

and yeah i think so too :I telephone just
is one of those people who goes to like, every single fuggin furry convention and tries hard to be liked and stuff .~.
lot of people like that though.

yE
yes PLS
my skype is Ladicomoh :3

i can already tell that youre awesome so chyea. B)

Exactly- I'm just a dragon, all cute looking dragon suits pretty much look the same << XD

I tried a squeaker- I always feel like I'm going to choke on it << it is a bit easier, but they get so much spit in them and don't work after a while D:

THANK YOUUUU~ X3

grrrrrrr, oh well XD there's nothing to do- she's just there, at least she's not overly powering and taking control of being a popufur- I still think she's cute, :U

YAYY
added you-

aww yisssss :D

Mhmn. -w-;

And yeah, I've had mine before I even knew about the furry fandom - I liked to freak people out at school, so I've gotten used to it :3
although, I actually did almost swallow one and my friend punched my back until I coughed it up
that was scary af
BUT NOW I AM A SQUEAKING MASTER.

yesyes you are welcome forever
*is drawing you a thing*

and yeah ive met her a coupel times in person
pretty sure she lives like, a couple hours away from me
shes nice and stuff
BUT HER FANS JUST NEED TO STOP

c: okey i shall talk to you on there.

SQUEAKER MASTERRRR
I wish I wasn't so scared XD

ohgoshyou'resosweet ;u;

I'm going to meet her when she get's to TFF [bound to happen to pass her at some point]
I heard she's pretty nice, my mate met her last year and they played video games together for a bit-

FANS, STAHP, PLEZ.

woo!

i just read this entire rant and agree with all of it!

I agree with everything except that Angel Dragons are Celestial Dragons... I'm Sorry but Celestial Dragons are a bit more creative and complicated. Angel Dragons kinda just look like a mixture of a Dinosaur Wolf Dragon Dog thing... ;^; I like them but I'm not all that wrong; Am I?

ok wait i have something to say... what makes an angel dragon an angel dragon??? from everyones perspective it seems like its because of the eyes, which is crap. but from telephones point of view its the wing style and ((seems like)) the rounded muzzle.
i dont think angel dragons is even a species because theres really nothing that makes them original...

i must agree with this whole convo because ALL of it is true.

your chara is NOT copied, telephone DOES NOT own those eyes, especially if people have had them before her ((including me with my own character Kayon, who ive had for like, 3 years))

and ya, i know this comment is super late XD OOPSIES

It's the feathers really.

That's fine XD

I've blind eyed characters my entire life. either blind or red eyes. it's just a furry phase for the fandom lol angel dragons.

Just cause you are fuzzy and dragon like doesn't make you one xD

EXACTLY D:

Why can't there just be big fluffy dragons anymore >.> grrrr

I love fluff dragons

fluffyfluffy

so soft~ :D

I wanna snuggle them!

all of the snuggles!

I'm sure they'd be more then happy too! ^^ fluffy dragon pile! :D

Can a fluffy bear join in that pile?

of course~! all fluffies are welcome!

Bear hugs time!

bear hugs are the best hugs! :D

Of course! We are the cuddliest of all!

indeed! and have the cutest noses everrrrrrrrr

We has big cute wiggly noses~

*boops it* cute wiggly and squishy :>

Yeeee~ *wiggles nose*

At least I didn't get chracterized like that yet. Must be really annoying to have your species judged in the court of.public opinion that you're some other species, whennn you're really not.

Still, I still say you're an angel dragon anyways >:3

angel, YUP- more like devil dragon XD

but you LOOK more like a dragon then I do XD

no your a dragon angel...GOOOOOOOOSH >:(

NUUUUUUUUUUUUU

yesh >:3

I tried making my own species once and was bashed because it was too similar to "angel dragons" and I was "stealing a copyrighted species". I gave up, but I think I'm going to bring my creation back to life. ^-^

DOOO ITTTTT

dragons are dragons

A LOT OF THINGS LOOK THE SAME-
it's like saying red foxes are copyrighted >.<

I can try, but it got to the point to where Wicker was talking to me. She never finished the convo with me, however so I assume my changes to the species were found alright. I just don't have a name for them yet. Help? :c

They're like spiritual dragon hybirds. And can have both scales and/or fur. The thing is, each one has to be based off an actual god/demon/spirit/whateveryouwishtocallthem. These two things were apparently stealing, lol.

that sounds NOTHING like stealing- it sounds way cooler then 'angel dragons' in my opinion XD

hmmmm, something with a Z maybe?

Awheh! Danke!

And hm. Zarks? :D jkjk

Zargonaughts. Zerferfag. Zerlere. Zerbemons. Zeamongos. Zeridontfuckingknowanymore...

I'll give it some more thought o3o

Zerlere actually sounds kinda cool o.o

maybe like: zerlore ? :>

OMG THAT SOUNDS AMAZING. XDDDD

How would you personally pronounce it? :o

zurr-low-ree ?

zurr-lore ?

ze-rl-ore ?

:>

Lol. I'm laughing on the inside about that for some reason. (Too baws to laugh and show it. Am too gangsta niqqa.)

Hm, I guess the first? o.o

Danke for the help! :$

I like the first one the best too X3

again- just an idea :D but I'm glad you like it! :D

you're welcome!

This is the best fucking submission ever ILOVEYOUOHMYGOSH

It's sad 'cause one of my friends, without ever knowing about Radio ( Telephone's boyfriend ), made a suit that he LOVES that unfortunately to other people looks like Radio, so to prevent confusion he's tempted to scrap the suit because people accuse him of copycat. :( There's only so many combos of gray and brown you can use, mates! Just because someone uses those colors together doesn't mean something foul is meant by it.

Besides, people are silly; it says in the species description that angel dragons MUST have feathered wings, and yours are clearly not feathered. Even if everything else was spot on your character is missing the key thing that makes an angel dragon what it is. xD

I know :< natural color combo's are hard to do since there's not many colors D: that really sucks D:

true true XD besides, I already have ino's okay and everything she knows I'm not copying or an angel dragon- she even loves my character X3

She's a really nice person :) I don't know her personally but have talked to her a few times as she is a local fur that goes to the local meets every now and again ( when she isn't going to a billion cons XD ) It's just sad that furries get so dramatic about her fame!

Wah I love this! I love Telephone and all but jeebus tits are her fans crazy when It comes to copyright slandering. 0 W 0
I thought about the bird whistle way before Telephone actually did it, because I was in the progress of getting my undead gryphon fursuit made. But now I'm too afraid to because I don't want to get called a copycat for doing It at conventions ect. Q W Q

I too have a fuzzy dragon, she doesn't have blind eyes or anything but I don't feel like posting pictures for once again the same reason.

I know ;-; she's an absolute doll and I give her so much credit for putting up with all the crap she must get [this person's a ripoff of you, they have the same eyes, and black on their suit COPYRIGHT]
go for it! a ton of people still use squeakers, I still do- don't mind what other people think :>

fuzzy dragon? I would love to see ;u; I bet it's a cutie pie

DAMN I WAS WAITING TO FIND THIS.

When I saw your suit I was like " how much you wanna bet that people are going to fucking say angel dragon"

AND THEN I SEE THIS

I'm so sorry bro

Anyone that says "looks like an angel dragon" needs to combust into flames

literally the sun should set them on fire.

suprisingly only a handful of people did (because I had my certified drennec badge on my head XD) - one guy in particular though REALLLLYY ticked me off- [oh hey look its the telephone rip off- why'd you copy her you damn idiot]
some people <<

It's okay XD anyone with blind eyes and dragon features is not subject to 'telephone' syndrome XD

YES YES YES.LET THEM BURNNNN

but serious- it's really rude now << people need to stop XD

people shouldn't say it if THEY KNOW IT'S RUDE AND MAY PISS YOU OFF.

Also I'm surprised you didn't rip a nut off him. Your character doesn't even look like them, but god forbid if you have clear eyes that you look like them.

I've been hearing that if you have a floppy eared dalmatian with hair that you're a rip off of marty who its Onta's character like wow guys shut the fuck up please before I create a saw movie out of you.

If anything- the best is when people are like 'DUDE, you SO ripped off my natural colored fox character' THERE'S SO MANY AND THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME!
I so would've but my boyfriend told me to ignore him and just walk away-

LOL WUT

it's like saying; OMFG YOUR CHARACTER HAS THE SAME EXACT BLUE NOSE AS MINE, COPYRIGHT XD lololololol

Its ridiculous, fluffy dragonsexisted WAY before Angel dragons.. My older character Pippin is nowbeing called a rip off of Telephones even though Ive had her for a LONG time! I even put the emblem of her 'species' on her.

If she wasnt so popular no one would care but now that shes all cute and popular everyone is turning into a whote knight to defendher. Not every fluffy dragon is an angel dragon! Inverse eyes existed for YEARS beforetelephone! Not everyone wants to be JUST like Telephone..

I KNOW UGH we were fluffy before it was cool

oh gosh I'm so sorry D: that must suck- I've had a few people tell me TO MY FACE I was a stupid rip off and blah blah
TONS of people had white eyes before she did [my human characters did, and even my first character's I created when I was like 10 UGHHHH

THANK YOU
granted telephone is adorable- but me [personally] I wish to be nothing like her- and I am not like her at all D:
some people are just, grrrrrr, stupid.

Hipster fluff draons BT

You have a really unique characterthough! She doesnt even look like a freaking angel Dwagon.. Shes super pretty and she has VERY unique colouring compared to Telephone wo ismade up of earthy colours.
You have nothing close to her species nor her sona..

Telephone is cute, but I agree. I dont want to be anything like her, I prefer being my own character and not one of her angel clones.

awww yiss
funny you say that too because yuudoku is a hipster 'crystal' drennec- XD ; oh gosh thank you so much ;u; <33333333333

earth colors are gorgeous- just for other people, it works good with telephone; yuudoku would look weirrrrd XD

plus- there are WAY too many angel dragons now <<

Way too perfect, I must make a linked badge of Pippin and Yuudoku now being hip hipster fluffs.
<333 Of course!

They are beautful and I like them a lot! Poor yuudoku itssad but true ;v;

They all look similar..

oh lord yes yes ;u; [you should show me a picture of pippin D: I bet she is adorableeeeeeeeeeeee][or he]

but it's okay! she loves her poision/toxic colors :>

they do << some are a LITTLE different, but just the coloring is different <<

I needto upload her ref ; A ;

She looks amzing with the colours vuv

So true!!

I would so draw them together <3

ahhh you're such a sweety <333 thank you~ ;u;

Yes ; v ; I shall uploadit soon!

You are a sweetheart vuv your welcome!

It's so cute and fluffy 8D

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7hO228pKx.....y-gif-9hWg.gif

Something like that XD

I really wish Telephone would talk to her fans about that. It's so annoying; First off Telephone DOES NOT have Blind eyes. She has inverted eyes. Telephone doesn't have a Tuff of hair, You do! Some fans are just really annoying. Other people can have Dragon Fursonas. She wasn't the first and surely won't be the last. I mean Why can't other people understand that there are just so many colors in the world that look just right together. Plus, Even if you were an Angel Dragon you don't have the markings for them. Aren't all of them suppose to have like a band around their muzzles? Anyways, I enjoy Telephone just like almost everyone else but like annoying when other people get accused for copying Angel Dragon style when they aren't. I've been seeing this alot lately so now all this "YOU'RE STEALING TELEPHONE'S STYLE MAAAAAHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRR" crap isn't fair to other artists. :y

She has talked to her fans and she said she hates that people are attacking others about it.

Telephone's eyes ARE inverted (but I do believe she is blind aswell)

It isn't fair to other artists, but there's nothing that can really be done about it sadly D:

True, I wish there was something we could do <.> It sucks seeing others harassed by idiots. :c

I sort of feel like crap because almost 2 years ago, I made a quick sketch of my fursona who is a fox/dragon. A little while ago I decided to refurbish & re sketch him because he needed to go through some changes (he looked old & I just didnt like the way his head was shaped) So, I made him have a dragon based head, wiff BIG fox ears & I remember showing one of my friends my new fursona & she bashed me saying that I copied Telephone >.> which I totally didn't. I re drew my fursona WAY before I even knew who Telephone was!

Now I'm kind of afraid of making him because of what others will say v.v.. What should I do???

I know your feelings. I based my yuudoku off of the Japanese fursuits loki and laki- I CONSTANTLY get called a telephone rip off; don't worry about it though! If you like your character, it shouldn't matter what other people say :)

Hell I did A LOT of things before I knew telephone as well- like the bird noises and white eyes- I had no idea she existed until someone pointed it out so I went to look her up-

point being, do what you think is right; it shouldn't matter what other people think of you as long as YOU like it!

Thank You SO very much~ >w< I feel much better now! Also, I searched Angel Dragon on FA & DeviantART & ever since Telephone made that species popular, its literally EVERYWHERE now. I was so close to just starting over & choosing a different species for my fursona, but not anymore!! I have ONE more year until I can start building >w< my fursona's name is Schloop btw <3

She's the only reason the species is popular- not saying it's a bad thing; but AD's USED to be a closed species, I feel kinda bad for her since it's something she wanted to keep to herself. (But yeah, there are WAY too many now a days.)

that's adorable ;y;

Kind of reminds me of CanineHybrid's Lugia cosplay. I dont know if you've heard of her, but several years back, she was the 1st to ever make a perfect Lugia cosplay. She added How To videos & step by step photos onto her Flickr. Then EVERYONE started making a Lugia cosplay (went very popular for several yeasr). the thing is, CanineHybrid doesnt mide if people re-create her cosplays/fursuits as theirs because she LOVES helping in that way. Idk about Ino though. I know the person who created her suit told me that she hates people who copy because she said it was "stealing". She even told me that today not too long ago.

I love CanineHybrid's work, that groudon was my favorite

It does suck for them because EVERYONE wants one.
It seems like furries aren't as creative as they used to be- they have to be/make something of whatever is popular.

It IS stealing as it was their creation. I know I would be upset if someone started making crystal drennec's all over the place. I made them a closed species for that reason (even though I'm the only one, it would still be upsetting for me to find out someone went behind my back and made one anyways)

*sigh* I miss the old furries :'< & I guess now a days if one will be making a fursuit, it should be private (like no update photos or stuff like that) because people will try to copy & so on! I'm going to post my updated fursona later on today c: thats if you're interested & again, Thank You very MUCHO for the advice!

Gah I feel the same way, my sona (malagon = malamute dragon) is an artic creature, so is fluffy, with feathered wings. Thats it. (because face it, super thin flesh of webbed wings would be so hard to keep warm in snow) And I get taken as an angel dragon from time to time, its annoying!

It's kinda obvious they're not an Angel Dragon, the wings aren't feathered, the tail doesn't have feathers, the anatomy seems more related to canine rather than equine (horse).... :/

Yeah - drennecs have feline feral anatomy - no feathers, no spikes, it's a wonder why I get confused lol