
For those whining about horrific compression:
Which one is which? Which one came from SexyFur.com and has horrible compression, and which one is the one that was posted here by JE? Pixel for pixel they are the same exact size, one was scaled to match the pixels of the other, and the image then saved as an uncompressed jpeg.
So, super geniuses, please declare to the world, so we will know the awesome power of your intellect and sharpened eye.
Which one is which? Which one came from SexyFur.com and has horrible compression, and which one is the one that was posted here by JE? Pixel for pixel they are the same exact size, one was scaled to match the pixels of the other, and the image then saved as an uncompressed jpeg.
So, super geniuses, please declare to the world, so we will know the awesome power of your intellect and sharpened eye.
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I see artifacts on the one on the right sir, it shows up on the shading by her collar and parts of her hair, especially in that chunk on the viewer's left. Most of the grey/blue is causing artifacts due to compression. You can see some artifacts in her yellow hair. The interesting thing about the compression is that it made the blacks, sharper because of loss. On the left it looks more blurry.
Also, I'm assuming the reason for the slight blurriness in the image on the left is because it was resized to be larger to match the scale of the image on the left. That'd account for the blur in the left image. I just hunted down the image here on FA and found it's smaller than this.
The one on the right is either lower quality or poorly compressed. There are artifacts and compression errors all along the outer border of the pink square, and a few more peppering some of the shading and tone changes. The edges aren't as sharp as in the image on the left, most noticeably in the purple outlines on the ears.
But considering the fact that the headshot portrayed here is scaled roughly 40% larger than JE's post, that means the one on the right is probably the lo-res FA version, while the one on the left is from the original on Sexyfur.
I've been staring at the screen for too long. *sees spots*
But considering the fact that the headshot portrayed here is scaled roughly 40% larger than JE's post, that means the one on the right is probably the lo-res FA version, while the one on the left is from the original on Sexyfur.
I've been staring at the screen for too long. *sees spots*
I'd like to point out the "fuzz" was something I did in purpose as one version was sharper that the other. Other than that both versions are identical in quality, just the Sexyfur one is substantially larger. (In fact, the FA one does have artifacts the Sexyfur version doesn't)
Well the one on the right has artifacts, however which one is which I wouldn't want to guess.
I'd assume the FA version has the artifacts because FA likes to resize and compress images...that can be fixed though if you click the Edit link after uploading the picture, changing the submission file and selecting the same file again...that uploads in full size.
I'd assume the FA version has the artifacts because FA likes to resize and compress images...that can be fixed though if you click the Edit link after uploading the picture, changing the submission file and selecting the same file again...that uploads in full size.
The right one is the JPG file.. It was though to notice without zooming in.. But you can see it in the eye. The eye on our left (her right eye). See the big highlight, on our left there is a tiny black line.
Compare this tiny black line on the left image with the one on the right, and you can see that the right one is is slightly more faded away with its surrounding colors (which is a typical for a JPG save image to do).
Left: Uncompressed JPG
Right: Compressed JPG
Compare this tiny black line on the left image with the one on the right, and you can see that the right one is is slightly more faded away with its surrounding colors (which is a typical for a JPG save image to do).
Left: Uncompressed JPG
Right: Compressed JPG
The image on the right, definitely. The colors aren't as smooth and there's more than a few places where you can see some compression issues. For me it's most noticeable under her lip, where the artifacts are red on white, and around the collar and on the neck, where she used thin contrasting lines to edge and detail. Not exactly horrific differences, admittedly, but you did ask.
Hey Evil Art Nazi, well, there is ONE case i know of that I would have to agree where this is true. When i was a member of sexyfur, one of your wallpapers was horribly compressed & it did indeed look like shit. the files are "surfbunny_02_desktop_C_1600x1200" & "surfbunny_02_desktop_M_1600x1200" While the C version was great, the M was HORRIBLE!! By far the worst image on Sexyfur ever! This is about the only image that i can see where you did indeed butcher the crap out it. I dont know if you replaced this image with a fixed version since i was last on sexyfur. & aside from the images sometimes being to small, the rest have been quite good.
First off I'll have to start by saying that these twats don't know what they're talking about when they whine about the quality of your art. I saw the goddammed painting of the Last Supper in Italy and it was faded as an emo kid's pair of girl jeans; but still it's an amazing piece of artwork.
I'd say that the one on the right seems to have the little watery, dotty quality problems as some of my photoshop colors did when I saved them as a .GIF rather than a .JPEG off the bat (either that or it's an image that was compressed in the program before it was sharpened/saved.
BUT with the image on the left, (if you look at her glasses) the quality is a little bit skewed in terms of sharpness. So I guess it's really a trade-off of whether you want a crisp, watery picture or a dulled, smooth picture depending on which way you want to do it.
I guess I'd have to say (as a non-super genius in the realm of digital art) that the one on the left I believe to be the compressed version. :)
-MF
I'd say that the one on the right seems to have the little watery, dotty quality problems as some of my photoshop colors did when I saved them as a .GIF rather than a .JPEG off the bat (either that or it's an image that was compressed in the program before it was sharpened/saved.
BUT with the image on the left, (if you look at her glasses) the quality is a little bit skewed in terms of sharpness. So I guess it's really a trade-off of whether you want a crisp, watery picture or a dulled, smooth picture depending on which way you want to do it.
I guess I'd have to say (as a non-super genius in the realm of digital art) that the one on the left I believe to be the compressed version. :)
-MF
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I hereby declare the point to this whole exercise is just as you explained, with some further notes for the unwashed:
The image on the left is from JE's post here. The one on the right is from SF. The one on the left has fewer artifacts, the one on the right is slightly sharper. The one on the left is 1/3 smaller, but the one on the right is 1/2 the file size of the one on the left, because it's optimized to load quickly, which is the point of browsing porn.
If you want high-res superduper lossless prints with zero artifacts, then buy them from Jessica and support her art habit. If you want quick-satisfaction splacktasticness with a few pixels where you shouldn't bother noticing (give me a fucking break-- there is T&A there and you are looking at pixel artifacts? What in goddamnratturdsonofabitchfuckstickholyhell is your disorder?????), get them from the website and support her art habit. Either way, support her art habit.
I hereby declare the point to this whole exercise is just as you explained, with some further notes for the unwashed:
The image on the left is from JE's post here. The one on the right is from SF. The one on the left has fewer artifacts, the one on the right is slightly sharper. The one on the left is 1/3 smaller, but the one on the right is 1/2 the file size of the one on the left, because it's optimized to load quickly, which is the point of browsing porn.
If you want high-res superduper lossless prints with zero artifacts, then buy them from Jessica and support her art habit. If you want quick-satisfaction splacktasticness with a few pixels where you shouldn't bother noticing (give me a fucking break-- there is T&A there and you are looking at pixel artifacts? What in goddamnratturdsonofabitchfuckstickholyhell is your disorder?????), get them from the website and support her art habit. Either way, support her art habit.
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But I have to agree. And it makes me roffle harder than an audience listening to George Bush trying to pronounce "polyamorous" that not only do people care about that stupid shit, but that there are a bunch of dullwits actually trying to discern the differences here.
And as far as wondering what the problem is with people who ignore curvaceousness on women and focus on pixellation...well, I can explain that fairly easily; you're drawing porn for the fucking furfandom. With some of the crazy shit you see from said fandom...well, I need explain no further.
But I have to agree. And it makes me roffle harder than an audience listening to George Bush trying to pronounce "polyamorous" that not only do people care about that stupid shit, but that there are a bunch of dullwits actually trying to discern the differences here.
And as far as wondering what the problem is with people who ignore curvaceousness on women and focus on pixellation...well, I can explain that fairly easily; you're drawing porn for the fucking furfandom. With some of the crazy shit you see from said fandom...well, I need explain no further.
They are almost but not quite identical to my eyes. When I look at the upper edge of her right ear (our left, her right), I see that the line delineating the ear from the white background is more definite on the image on my left compared to the one on the right. I've got no complaints about either, though.
What would the filesize be if it had been saved as a lossless PNG? Many drawings have PNG file sizes that are reasonable, and PNGs have lossless compression whereas JPGs are irreversibly lossy. Unfortunately, PNGs of my photomorphs are usually in the megabyte+ range, so I have to save them as JPGs.
What would the filesize be if it had been saved as a lossless PNG? Many drawings have PNG file sizes that are reasonable, and PNGs have lossless compression whereas JPGs are irreversibly lossy. Unfortunately, PNGs of my photomorphs are usually in the megabyte+ range, so I have to save them as JPGs.
Hi there!
In my opinion, I think the original or best image with no so much compression is the right image. You only need to see artline to know it.
By the other hand, the left looks blured maybe of because it was saved with more compression. Or maybe is re-saved using a web size image again.
In my opinion, I think the original or best image with no so much compression is the right image. You only need to see artline to know it.
By the other hand, the left looks blured maybe of because it was saved with more compression. Or maybe is re-saved using a web size image again.
as a fellow artist that likes to both color and shrink images I can tell the image on the left has barely noticeable blurr and mild quality loss while the one on the right is still flawless like the original earlier pic but both got reduced to do this picture comparison therefore without seeing the full view it's hard to notice to the untrained eye
I would say the one on the right. I can see a very VERY mild discoloration (which usually occurs due to compression) in the eyes. I will say this though, if you're not actively looking for it, it's VERY hard to tell the difference. If anyone's complaining about it, they should shut their pie holes and just be glad they can see it.
the image on the right is about 2% narrower than the one the left. I can see it in the bare shoulders, there's less whitespace on the right.
having them next to each other like this, if you wanted to. you could do one of those 3d images if you cross your eyes a little - stare-e-os :)
having them next to each other like this, if you wanted to. you could do one of those 3d images if you cross your eyes a little - stare-e-os :)
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