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alejandrodelfuego , based off the description from my journal found here:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5441598/
In Particular:
How about a spacestation peeling itself out of the blackness of space, diving into the warmth of the sun after days of traveling in darkness behind the gas giant it is orbiting?
Yes, maybe even imagine it travelling through the thin nebulous layers of the gas giants saturn-like discs, appearing from the rainbow-shimmering plane like a humpback-whale breaking the surface of the sea, tracing wisps of icecrystals after it.
Light lances out from the stations central spindle, to where its radars - no longer blinded by the rings icecrystals - detected asteroids on collission course, vaporising or pushign away those asteroids to large to simply shatter on the armored hull of the station.
Already armored bays open to let drones of all designs out to repair what the travel through the ring damaged.
Without a crew ordering it, the stations computers are unable to execute a change of course that would make the station, as originally planned, hover over the rings again.
It is a giant machine build ten thousand years ago, still waiting for a population that never came, but it is about to become a safe haven for refugees from earth.
Dwarfed by the gas giant it is orbiting , it is still a big artifical planet , designed to house a population of 200 000 people indefinitely.
References:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjhpETolG0 ; when the ring of the habitat peels itself out of the ice crystals of the rings .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I85yMfZqmgA when the solarpanels unfold , chunks of icecrystals splintering off in puffy clouds , and the armored bulkheads over the habitats inner side unfold to expose the glassen roof to the distant suns warmth and light, hangars unsealing ,and multitudes of small vessels swarmign forth, to help frozen element unfold, to polish scratches in the optical systems, to remove covers over intakes and exhaust ports and to unfold the mylar mirros that concentrate the distant suns light to provide energy and life and joy to the animals and plants in the vast habitat.
Particular Reference for Design:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=190wLjrlcx4
alejandrodelfuego , based off the description from my journal found here:http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5441598/
In Particular:
How about a spacestation peeling itself out of the blackness of space, diving into the warmth of the sun after days of traveling in darkness behind the gas giant it is orbiting?
Yes, maybe even imagine it travelling through the thin nebulous layers of the gas giants saturn-like discs, appearing from the rainbow-shimmering plane like a humpback-whale breaking the surface of the sea, tracing wisps of icecrystals after it.
Light lances out from the stations central spindle, to where its radars - no longer blinded by the rings icecrystals - detected asteroids on collission course, vaporising or pushign away those asteroids to large to simply shatter on the armored hull of the station.
Already armored bays open to let drones of all designs out to repair what the travel through the ring damaged.
Without a crew ordering it, the stations computers are unable to execute a change of course that would make the station, as originally planned, hover over the rings again.
It is a giant machine build ten thousand years ago, still waiting for a population that never came, but it is about to become a safe haven for refugees from earth.
Dwarfed by the gas giant it is orbiting , it is still a big artifical planet , designed to house a population of 200 000 people indefinitely.
References:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjhpETolG0 ; when the ring of the habitat peels itself out of the ice crystals of the rings .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I85yMfZqmgA when the solarpanels unfold , chunks of icecrystals splintering off in puffy clouds , and the armored bulkheads over the habitats inner side unfold to expose the glassen roof to the distant suns warmth and light, hangars unsealing ,and multitudes of small vessels swarmign forth, to help frozen element unfold, to polish scratches in the optical systems, to remove covers over intakes and exhaust ports and to unfold the mylar mirros that concentrate the distant suns light to provide energy and life and joy to the animals and plants in the vast habitat.
Particular Reference for Design:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=190wLjrlcx4
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Well, you're most welcome.
This particular space station is nicknamed Thor , due to the fact that it's literally "hammering" it's way through the gas giants rings every 25 days for about 3 days.
When you're a a fox, well, though being just 4ft tall, whilst most canines are 5 to 5.5ft tall, foxes, or rather, fennecs, do appear in my stories.
Thor however differs from the station in the video in so far as that the computers modified the station over tiem to cope with the realities of regular impacts.
As a result there are bulkheads every 200m , compartmentalizing the station.
Whilst the systems of the station are able to act with a wide degree of freedom, the position of the station inside the Tau Ceti systems communication network is considered so important that the computers are unable to engage the station's drive to correct the position.
It's just a minor weak spot in the systems programming: Repairing the antennas is considered a normal task, and is not rated as suffcient to engage the eneergy hungry station drives.
That de-facto the monthly repairs of the antennas are actually more energy intense over a decade than firing the stations drives to correct the position is something the computers are abstractly aware of.
However the cost-benefit calculation system exempts repairs from any costs calculations as they are needed to keep the station and a potential crew "alive" and thus have absolute priority. Only manual override would permit the station to change position to its intended point above the rings.
This particular space station is nicknamed Thor , due to the fact that it's literally "hammering" it's way through the gas giants rings every 25 days for about 3 days.
When you're a a fox, well, though being just 4ft tall, whilst most canines are 5 to 5.5ft tall, foxes, or rather, fennecs, do appear in my stories.
Thor however differs from the station in the video in so far as that the computers modified the station over tiem to cope with the realities of regular impacts.
As a result there are bulkheads every 200m , compartmentalizing the station.
Whilst the systems of the station are able to act with a wide degree of freedom, the position of the station inside the Tau Ceti systems communication network is considered so important that the computers are unable to engage the station's drive to correct the position.
It's just a minor weak spot in the systems programming: Repairing the antennas is considered a normal task, and is not rated as suffcient to engage the eneergy hungry station drives.
That de-facto the monthly repairs of the antennas are actually more energy intense over a decade than firing the stations drives to correct the position is something the computers are abstractly aware of.
However the cost-benefit calculation system exempts repairs from any costs calculations as they are needed to keep the station and a potential crew "alive" and thus have absolute priority. Only manual override would permit the station to change position to its intended point above the rings.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11544739/ << This was originally was spose to be rendered, and finished to be like this: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8334306/
I have a back story too. *smiles*
I love stuff like this. Great ideas and small things details make it great, and fun. *SMiles*
And A ring based station reminds me of Ragnork Acrage from BSG miniserise. Looks almost like it, and looks amazing. I can't wait to see the finished product.
I have a back story too. *smiles*
I love stuff like this. Great ideas and small things details make it great, and fun. *SMiles*
And A ring based station reminds me of Ragnork Acrage from BSG miniserise. Looks almost like it, and looks amazing. I can't wait to see the finished product.
Well, I'm just curious: For Homeworld 2 there was / is a native Linux client , and it came out only 1 month after the release of the game itself.
Now that it's "Games for Windows" I'm afraid they won't be allowed to make one such.
At least I didn't hear a bit so far in that regard.
Likewise for Homeworld - Baserunner.
Now that it's "Games for Windows" I'm afraid they won't be allowed to make one such.
At least I didn't hear a bit so far in that regard.
Likewise for Homeworld - Baserunner.
Aye. I remember that one. But I was for Windows back in the day. I Was and still a Software tard... I will always be... *taps head* I have memory issues due to migraines.
Baserunner? I've not heard of that one. I heard of Cataclysm. And the new one that maybe coming.. Ship-wreckers... That one is in whispers though cause its maybe the studio name responsible for the HD upgrades. But... There are whispers and hushed tones of their maybe a 3rd Homeworld come to light in the next 3 years.
Baserunner? I've not heard of that one. I heard of Cataclysm. And the new one that maybe coming.. Ship-wreckers... That one is in whispers though cause its maybe the studio name responsible for the HD upgrades. But... There are whispers and hushed tones of their maybe a 3rd Homeworld come to light in the next 3 years.
Ring based stations are an old design from the 60's , Stanford Torus or Bernal Spheres, the latter a bit more flexible but also more material hungry and a bit more risk-prone than Standford Tori' .
With standard 60's technology both designs can be build with diameters of up to 2 kilometers.
2km stations offering habitat space for up to half a million people when using the default designs and just scaling them , and using optimized ( but fragile ) hydroponic supply systems. Takign a 2km station for just 200.000 like Thor, Odin and Freya, you have a 200m wide, and 6 kilometer "long valley" with natural environment, rivers, fields, and wild animals.
The habitat zone in this case moves under or above the green zone. Industries are located either in the hub/spindle or on the outmost layer, the "bottom" of the wheel, giving their bulk of machinerey as additional radiation shielding to the habitat sections.
An alternative to the rings are O'Neill cylinders, which offer far more "surface space" or "real estate" compared to the required material, and solve a few problems with interstellar radiation better than the ring/boulder designs. However there are higher structural loads, and whilst it's still all nice 60s technology, the problem is that the safety margin is far less than in the standford or Bernal design.
Bernal Designs make for good spacecraft even, as due to their shape, as soon as fusion technology is available, they can easiyl be upgraded to carry their own sun inside.
Bishop Rings are now a last variation. They are vastly larger than Standford tori, and their "roof" is open to space.
Whilst the material needed to build these structures ( 500km diameter ) is known and available since a long time ( Carbon fiber ) it's production capacity and cost even today would make the use of this material prohibitive.
A small Standford Torus for 1000 inhabitants you'd get roughly for about 50 billion US$ ( 50 000 000 000 000 US$ ; modern price ).
The fun thing is, as soon as you have the spokes hub and the industrial sector installed, the remaining costs are only what you need to bring up more
arable ground, and a few special materials, because the entire rest of the material you grab from the asteroid belt and process using the solar powered industrial modules of the station, so there is no more "fixed" costs involved.
A variant of the Standford Torus, the Beaded Torus. permits building extensibly right from the start, using geodesic cupolas as habitat modules rotating around the spindle. Additional habitat cupolas can be added, interleaving , offering habitats with different gravties.
As an added Bonus such cupolas can be detached later again and landed on asteroids or even planets, serving as bases.
Beaded Tori are thus nice for slow colonization inside a system.
With standard 60's technology both designs can be build with diameters of up to 2 kilometers.
2km stations offering habitat space for up to half a million people when using the default designs and just scaling them , and using optimized ( but fragile ) hydroponic supply systems. Takign a 2km station for just 200.000 like Thor, Odin and Freya, you have a 200m wide, and 6 kilometer "long valley" with natural environment, rivers, fields, and wild animals.
The habitat zone in this case moves under or above the green zone. Industries are located either in the hub/spindle or on the outmost layer, the "bottom" of the wheel, giving their bulk of machinerey as additional radiation shielding to the habitat sections.
An alternative to the rings are O'Neill cylinders, which offer far more "surface space" or "real estate" compared to the required material, and solve a few problems with interstellar radiation better than the ring/boulder designs. However there are higher structural loads, and whilst it's still all nice 60s technology, the problem is that the safety margin is far less than in the standford or Bernal design.
Bernal Designs make for good spacecraft even, as due to their shape, as soon as fusion technology is available, they can easiyl be upgraded to carry their own sun inside.
Bishop Rings are now a last variation. They are vastly larger than Standford tori, and their "roof" is open to space.
Whilst the material needed to build these structures ( 500km diameter ) is known and available since a long time ( Carbon fiber ) it's production capacity and cost even today would make the use of this material prohibitive.
A small Standford Torus for 1000 inhabitants you'd get roughly for about 50 billion US$ ( 50 000 000 000 000 US$ ; modern price ).
The fun thing is, as soon as you have the spokes hub and the industrial sector installed, the remaining costs are only what you need to bring up more
arable ground, and a few special materials, because the entire rest of the material you grab from the asteroid belt and process using the solar powered industrial modules of the station, so there is no more "fixed" costs involved.
A variant of the Standford Torus, the Beaded Torus. permits building extensibly right from the start, using geodesic cupolas as habitat modules rotating around the spindle. Additional habitat cupolas can be added, interleaving , offering habitats with different gravties.
As an added Bonus such cupolas can be detached later again and landed on asteroids or even planets, serving as bases.
Beaded Tori are thus nice for slow colonization inside a system.
Aye. Ring stations are just old. Its Viable thats why you see it so Often.
And I knew about O'Neill Cylinders before 'Halo' brought them to the light too. But yeah. And A Bernal Design probably be best, but realistically speaking..
Biship Rings again.. Halo design all over again. It would take forever to get right. I can see it happening.
The Standford Torus I can see indeed. Not within our lifetime cause of cost, size of scale, and well politics.. But I'd love to be there for it. I have living problems, and I feel that some of removal of gravational limitations would help remove them.
And yes.. I think that we need to start the plans for mining for materials on extra terrestrial bodies. Start with our moon, and branch out. Learn how to catch, and decelerate these close passing large astroids. Soon head out too Mars, and the belt. But yes.... We need to really think of stop taxing our own home, and look to the infinite beyond.
The ship I linked.. Besides being a heavy warship. Had a small refinery purpose on-board to keep it self sufficient. It's just plain smart these days.
And I knew about O'Neill Cylinders before 'Halo' brought them to the light too. But yeah. And A Bernal Design probably be best, but realistically speaking..
Biship Rings again.. Halo design all over again. It would take forever to get right. I can see it happening.
The Standford Torus I can see indeed. Not within our lifetime cause of cost, size of scale, and well politics.. But I'd love to be there for it. I have living problems, and I feel that some of removal of gravational limitations would help remove them.
And yes.. I think that we need to start the plans for mining for materials on extra terrestrial bodies. Start with our moon, and branch out. Learn how to catch, and decelerate these close passing large astroids. Soon head out too Mars, and the belt. But yes.... We need to really think of stop taxing our own home, and look to the infinite beyond.
The ship I linked.. Besides being a heavy warship. Had a small refinery purpose on-board to keep it self sufficient. It's just plain smart these days.
Well, I don't know the game "Halo" at all. All I know is that the "Halo's" themselves are typical Bishop rings.
When you want variable gravity , then a Bernal Sphere is your choice of living. in the equatorial ring you can have earth standard or even some higher gravity, whilst to the poles, where the spindle attaches, the pseudo-gravity slowly reduces as the centrifugal forces reduce.
The thing I find so very saddening is that a Stanford Torus for 5000 people would have cost roughly of the Iraq War. Or rather, the costs for "war on terror" would have built us two to maybe three orbital habitats.
Or, if wanting one for safe asteroid mining, a set of Lagrange colonies.
When you want variable gravity , then a Bernal Sphere is your choice of living. in the equatorial ring you can have earth standard or even some higher gravity, whilst to the poles, where the spindle attaches, the pseudo-gravity slowly reduces as the centrifugal forces reduce.
The thing I find so very saddening is that a Stanford Torus for 5000 people would have cost roughly of the Iraq War. Or rather, the costs for "war on terror" would have built us two to maybe three orbital habitats.
Or, if wanting one for safe asteroid mining, a set of Lagrange colonies.
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