didn't you upload this already?

I uploaded the wrong file, which had some faded lines and others that were blurred together. When I realized the mistake I deleted the file and uploaded the right one.

Are those rear-propelled planes real? If so, I so want one, and maybe a replica flying flapjack. If not, I want to build one one day.

Not real. I made them up from whole cloth, trying to keep to available technology of the period but advanced design.

Those look very cool, I wonder how they would perform? They look very well designed, what with the wings in the back where the wait is, and a smaller pair up front for support and control.

I was mainly worried about the weight compared structural strength. But it may have been do-able.

With modern technology, more than doable. It just needs someone with some money to propose the idea to a recreational aircraft manufacturer.

Nice, I really dig the pusher-bips, man.

W00t! Biplane pron!

Exquisite rendering as well.

So, the pusher bipes would be cloth and fabric as well, but using cantilever engineering and something akin to the Liberty engine. Works for me...

A bit of sheet metal too, to make the area around the engine and the two .30's more rigid.

(nods) Sounds plausible to me.

You gotta watch out for them rotary engines. They can kick like a Mule and throw you a ways if you crank them wrong.

That's why I put an in-line engine in the pushers.

GAH >_< buttons >.>

Excellant piece ^^ Nieuport was an ok aircraft; don't know much about the bi-planes. lol I like your reason to not colouring it XD

Heh. That one lady has every right to be proud of her work, but if she sits there and admires it much longer she won't be around to outdo herself.

If Saara's about to get into that one push-prop there, then what's going on behind the Nieuport?

Nice work here.

I don't think she has anything to worry about... somebody has to spin the prop while the pilot holds the contact down, and she's probably the somebody.

Behind the Nieuport I only see a Teh Langgi personell coming out of a tent with a clip board.

wow. this is just plain awsome. The sheer amount of detail you put into it is just mind blowing.

i was thinking it was a CAMEL until i readed it was a nieuport, btw good one!

It's the angle. From the front quarter the plane is foreshortened in a way to make it hard to see that it's longer than the stubby Camel. The tail is a little different too. The Camel has parallel wing struts, rather than V-shaped, and two machine guns rather than one.

i love the two planes in the background. They look like they could easily cross 350mph in level flight.

My own design, called a Sopwith Terrier. The idea was to improve WWI fighters through design only, using nothing that couldn't have have been done in 1918. About the only point I stretched was the use of aluminum sheet panels and less paper in the fuselage. The engines of the day may not have been powerful enough to handle the extra weight.

But 350? Nah... with an engine turning out maybe 150 to 200 hp max, I would be happy if the Terrier could manage 200mph.

wow. Didnt know it was limited to WW1 era. I could bash out some specs for a remake of this model in modern day....or atleast in 1960 somethin when air race'in was still big. So what normally powers this plane? A liberty V8?

I never went into specifics, apart from deciding on an in-line engine. I assumed that with the technology available, no engine could be made that was much more powerful than the one in a Spad XIII, which was around 200 hp. The most powerful Sopwith Camel was around 125 or 150 hp as I recall.

If I were rebuilding the Terrier for WWII it would be rather different. In fact, I already have -- but it's called the Sidewinder. It's a layout a bit like a Vought F7U Cutlass, if you recall that, but with stabilizing canards out front. Power is from two pusher-prop radials set very close together, with only the vertical stabilizer separating them.

got a pic of this design handy? And ive heard of the F7U. It was basically a Japaneses Shinden but with American re-refinements and firepower. Why use radial engines and not say, the Merlin V12 or the Allison V1710?

The F7U Cutlass was somewhat like the Shinden, but with the two tails it doesn't resemble it strongly.

I chose the P&W Double Wasp over a Merlin or Allison because it was proven technology and extremely powerful. I don't know whether there were later Allison engines that performed better, but the impression I have of them is of a design that was discarded early in the war.

Oddly, the Allison engine was a favourite among high-stakes rollers who were trying to set a land-speed record at Bonneville.

I do have sketches of the Sidewinder, but don't appear to have ever posted them. I suppose I could. Watch this space.

Another proven and sturdy motor that is my all time fav piston aircraft engine is the Wright R3350 series. Good engine, worthy enough to power iconic aircraft such as the AD series Sky Raiders, Martin Mars flyin boats all the way up to bombers like the B-29. They even powered the world's most iconic propliners, the Lockheed Constellation and The Douglas DC-7C Seven Seas (try sayin DC-7C Seven Seas 3 times fast)

the main reason why the Merlins and Allisons were discarded early in the war was due to their lack of power at high altitudes. The problem was fixed, however, and these engines went on to power very capable aircraft, like the P-51 (Merlin powered) and the P-38 (Allison powered). Another major reason Merlins and Allisons wernt dropped in fighters regularly was the fact they were water cooled, as opposed to the air cooled radials. With the right mods, a Merlin and Allison V1710 can crank out as much as 2500hp without WEP or water/Methenol injection but most pushed out around 1250 to 1900hp. Also, the aircraft most of these engines powered were very aerodynamic and could easily cross the 400mph barrier with less power an aircraft like say, a Corsair, could clipped with its 2,100hp. Merlins also powered the famous British bomber, the Avro Lancaster.

The British favoured in-line, water cooled engines, so stuck with the Merlin and then superceded it with the Gryphon engine. American designers seemed to favour air-cooled radial engines, though, save in the P-51. So that may be why the Allison went by the board. I think they were supercharged and used by the P-38 though. As I recall, the P-38 was not itself at its best at high altitude.

I see hints of Crimson Skies in the two pusher designs.

Maybe you do... but what is Crimson Skies? Never heard of it. I designed the pusher planes myself, using only materials that would have likely been available 1914-1918.