hmm, I thought that force push could repel the concussion rifle... or at least it did so when i tried to use it against a reborn master, or was that a missle? of course you would have to pull of the timing and utilise the somewhat awkward force power use system even if it does work...

Oh it does, but it's imposible to time at medium range (for me anyway) and you can only push 3 or 4 times before running out of force. Don't you hate it when you RUN OUT of the living energy that binds the entire universe together? I know I do!
Then there's the fact that someone with a blaster can backpedal just as fast someone with a saber can charge forward...
Meh, I just miss the old Dark Forces 2 gameplay.

well i guess they had to keep it at least borderline balenced for the non-saber/non-force users.

idk, Saber damages are awfully low for a mele weapon. While this makes for some epic lightsaber duals, it makes suprise attacks ineffective and gives ranged attacks an annoying advantage. 'course DF2 fixed this dilema by allowing sabers to attack health directly, regardless of shields. JK2 just happened to forget this. (tho you can still 'kick' through shields...)
I'd better stop before I complain about tripmine spam. <.<

the low saber damage makes even less sense considering the mythology and the nature of the weapon.

Nice touch having her breasts pushed up by the size of the rifle.

Force push and maps with lotsa walkways!

I got banned on two servers due to that sorta scenario. ;)

Oh sure, might not have been winning all the lightsaber fights, but strategic waiting and then a "whoops!" gets you all sortsa points!

She's got the patter down for being a gun bunny, and you clearly have the peel and fry technique of combat figured out. Any good at bleeding on folks, too? :)

Me, I prefer unarmed combat. Distraction strike! *Boobmuffle*

Nice! But I'm more of a Force Push Victim than User. My timeing is always off and everyone elses is alway perfect somehow. Still, that stratagy is much more fair than grip-kicking! (Honestly, that move shouldn't be physicaly possible!)

Hey! Watch where you're swinging tho- "Mmphhh!!" >.O *Nosebleed Overkill!!* x.x

Ah, but when you start talking The Force, physically possible tends to get dangled out the window by an ankle.

Close grip combat, oh yeah! Well, once properly pressurized, anyways.

Heh heh! Excellent use of Star Wars references.

Oh and may I ask? What is the name of that lovely feline femme?

You mean Chesh? I guess I don't mention her by name often enough. Or maybe I'm just embaressed that "Cheshire" is the most creative name I could think of for her. -_-...

Blasters are a religion! : |

Ha, I just wanted to say that. XD

XD I'm gonna have to remember that one!

he forgot to deflect the blast off his hand or parry with the sword, ...amatures! sheesh!

O_o ...but I DID!!

I still say not much can beat a low-tech shotgun.

Lightsabers can't block all that buckshot, and lead doesn't really bounce back, just tends to vaporize... Heheh.

Yeah, I've always wondered what they'd do to a bullet. Wouldn't the blade just cut it in half, then you'd have 2 bullet wounds! XD ...unless it got caught in the saber's electromagnetic envelope, -or if the energy emitter was wide enough. Heh, there's a thought: different lightsabers might have different weaknesses.
Good point there, the only Jedi counter to buckshot would be Force Barrier, and that technique is only used by ancient masters. Hmmm...

well there is this one tiny problem concerning the coldness of space something like 278 degrees below zero. it needs to be thawed out some over a couple hours - the gun with all those frozen oiled parts inside (oiling a gun) then there is the problem or the powder being made pretty much worthless by the vacuum doing really nasty things to it inside the cartridge or shell itself. being sealed even inside the magazine would tend to spilt down a side, the air inside the primer would rip a hole
'cin ya say reload or die?
"...Can't beat a good blaster with a shotgun", maybe why those sand people with their rifles stay on a nice surface on a planet... .

...you're saying a casing that contains the result of a highly explosive charge would rupture from internal pressure of a single atmosphere. Leaving aside the fact that space is neither hot nor cold, but is in fact a vacuum, a human being would generate all the heat necessary to keep a weapon in working order. As a matter of fact, in space, the problem is often finding a place for all the extra heat to go what with picking up energy from the sun.

All that is irrelevant however, as I've yet to see a Jedi fight in a vacuum or in any type of armor other than Darth Vader.

Whom I would strongly recommend nothing less than a flamethrower against.

ask any serviceman that fought in the Afgan war versus the Taliban concerning ruptured casings from 'daisycutters' inside the magazines of AK 47's because i know you won't believe me.

And um yeah space is cold, i got the rough estimate of the coldness of space from a book by Issac Asimov, you know the guy that wrote over 150 science books let alone SF books?

And i know that the lack of atmosphere causes many substances to loose thier properties, as well as the cold, like for instance take a pound of raw hamburger and place it inside of the freezer unwrapped, then take it out and cook it. it will have a weird taste, i'll bet, yhis would mean the hamburger is somewhat rotted...otherwise known as freezerburn.

alternately try this one, nitrogen is roughly a little warmer than space, put a shotgun shell inside a glass of liquid nitrogen then (with tongs) take it out and load it in a shotgun then see if the shell that is highly explosive will fire.
it might, but i would bet it is more likely the shotgun will blow up instead of fire the bb's, that is it blow the shotgun in half.

Isaac Asimov was an author, not a scientist. A man who wrote when we knew so VERY little about space. Yes, heat radiates from a body, and in the depths of space or shadow things will tend to lose energy. However, as I said already, most combat takes place near habitable worlds, not in the depths of interstellar space, and humans are notorious for generating more thermal energy than they can radiate. Problem. Solved.

As far as daisycutters rupturing AK-casings, you're talking about an overpressure of several atmospheres, hell a tripmine will deform a weapon, let alone burst the shells. You're cherry-picking facts and ignoring that most of the problems you postulate are already solvable, otherwise wrenches and manipulator arms on the shuttle would never work. At all. Ever. Just snap the first time they were attempted to operate, at least according to the views you're trying to force upon me.

I don't know how else to ram this into your thick skull, but space itself is not cold. Just making things clear here. Vacuum is an insulator, no temperature. The issue is that unless exposed to thermal radiation, objects tend to radiate their heat. Some more rapidly than others.


Personally, if I were trying to claim that a weapon wouldn't work, I'd focus more on what the vacuum effects would do. Not necessarily in terms of pressure deforming the devices, but that liquids tend to boil off before they freeze. gun oil included. Thus, a solid lubricant will be required. Like graphite. Another fix that already exists. *Sigh* I'd like to continue arguing with you, I would, but instead of bringing up new points or offering supporting evidence, you reiterate the same failed attempts...*Sighs* Never mind, I've said all I'm going to say unless you can come up with something compelling and interesting.

Issac Asimov worked for NASA as an Astrophysist, and he was also an author. All the other stuff i'll go get it from a friend of mine who is a retired Astrobiologist for the US government from the 'Skunkworks' out in Nevada., and as it happens he worked with Dr. Asimov on the 'Apollo project'. And true my degree was in Metallugical Engineering not Military Science like yours is. ...see i was able to respond without resorting to inflamatory wording!

wow man the proportion of the character with the blaster is perfect.
Awesome job.

How do u do that?

you need to upgrade to The Force Unleassed to pwon her back

Naaww, she just caught me off guard. Reealy...

Respawn Y/N?

Good old Han Solo text :3

Nice, very nice. " Those who live by the sword are often shot by those of us who don't."

And, love the proportions.

You'd only get a bullet sliced in half if the round were wider than the lightsaber's blade.

Which is why I went with a shotgun instead of a pistol or assault rifle.

i think u are just down cuz shes got the bigger equipment now XP

thats why i must train you in the ways of the sith young jedi

My hate is not nearly strong enought. ^_^
You wouldn't reeealy beat up Chesh, would you?? *insert bambi eyes*

well not enough to hurt her but rough her up a little bit make her see your not easily picked on with me around and you dont have to be a master sith you could be kinda like me mostly evil but nice some times but you would be mostly good with a little bit of evil enough to learn some of the sith powers

Heavens, no.

I have other plans....

*Looks devious! Puts on top hat, mwah hah hahs, and vanishes!*

This is why I prefer running an airstrike team. =D

Curiously, Star Wars: Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy puts the concussion rifle back in, but makes it entirely lightsaber-deflectable.

From my time in the demo, they even put in new animations for "reach out and bat back that slow-moving projectile like a tennis ball". Of course, the sith apprentice was foolish enough to stay put on his small rock platform, so it didn't work out for him in the end.