ok.....so heres teh emblam I voluntered to make.......fact is I really really hate it. I wanted to draw something but I could never get anything ornate or that I thought looked serious. so, I went into photoshop and voila....here it is. and wow, I'm gonna show it to muki but you know what? if she dislikes it one bit I'm going to agree with her completly and either try again or apologize my heart out. again, I'm not very happy with how this turned out