
PCA - Ternary Polarity: Cesarean Nascency
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This submission contains a graphic depiction of a mother giving birth. Further, this commission is intended to be part of a larger narrative. It is not intended to be erotic nor should it be looked at as such.
This submission contains a depiction of a mother undergoing a c-section and is meant to convey "the miracle of life" for its visual theme despite the stress the parents appear to display.
Scene is part of an event included (and glossed over) in the in-progress story "Ternary Polarity".
Upgraded to flat colors some time ago. Simple lighting effects by
la-glacefurball.
Ternary Polarity Arc (In rough chronological order)
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Artwork is © 2014 by
ebonyleopard /
ebonypikachu
Original post is here.
Olivia Raiek is © 2014 by
Luircin
Thor Volt is © 2014 by Swordfox (Me).
When the Raiek twins thought about eventual parenthood, this was earlier than what they had in mind. Much earlier. They were thinking they'd get around to it after they've entered their late 20's, when they have a career and some stability. Becoming mothers in their early young adult years was a total curve ball. In retrospect, they realized that this was just as much their fault as it was Thor's. What started as little flings turned into a love triangle which led to experimentation and then to parenthood ahead of schedule.
Olivia Raiek was rather shy and quiet during her pregnancy when in public, and a pessimist. She was elated when she learned she was having twins, but at the same time afraid of things going sideways on her. It was a long term effort to keep her from thinking negatively about her condition as it progressed, but in the eyes of her sister it was worth it.
The road for both girls was bumpy. It had its ups and downs, including a baby shower for Olivia that got interrupted by a very drunk and naked female teenage Pikachu streaking through the building. They thought Spike was responsible for that party crash, but the yena knew nothing about it and in fact claimed that the 'chu in question crashed one of his parties too. Neither of them had a clue what happened beyond that and the girl that crashed their parties had mysteriously vanished. This was just an example of one of the more seriously confusing bumps in the road to parenthood they had to deal with.
When it became apparent that Olivia was due for twins, the obstetrician kept close tabs on her. Dietary changes, ultrasound checks and even blood pressure checks were conducted on a regular basis. This was cited as required because of her weight, being classified as overweight but not dangerously so, and they had to keep an eye out for gestational diabetes. This was all well and good, but their checkups and scans failed to notice that there was indeed something wrong. And as such nobody knew what was going on in Olivia's womb.
The next several months proceeded without major incident (besides the one they failed to detect and couldn't detect with what they had on-hand). The girls had accepted that their actions have made parents out of them and were settling into their temporary home with Thor and his immediate family. For a while things seemed to be going pretty well for the them.
But one night about a month from their due dates, they both started experiencing some uncomfortable abdominal cramps. Olivia said nothing because she thought they would pass and they weren't that bad, especially during the "last hurrah" round of sex she and her sister shared with Thor (as quietly as they could manage) just the night prior. The cramps still kept her up half the night into the next day. When she observed a scene between Thor and his mother concerning an apparently personal event between the two he was negatively affected by, the hasty reactions Thor had and his mildly traumatized attitude managed to worry Olivia enough to give her a bit of distress. It was this indirect stress that turned her cramps into labor contractions after Thor had left the room. A minute later, her sister started having labor contractions as well in reaction to her panic at Olivia's early labor.
After the rushed trip to the hospital, the sisters were separated. Ava was carted off to a delivery room while the doctors with Olivia noticed she was bleeding a little with each contraction and made the choice to ship her to an operating room as fast as possible. Olivia didn't like the urgency in their voices. She knew she would have to have a cesarean section when her actual due date came around, but these doctors were talking as if they couldn't do anything to stop her early labor. Plus she didn't have a clue she was bleeding through the fire in her belly. Taking these things in, she became understandably scared.
Time seemed to blur at that point. Thor followed Ava at first, his mind a mess of emotions and confusion and his body pretty sore from helping carry the girls to the family van and again into wheelchairs. He was so jumbled that when she told him to go be with Olivia, he very nearly forgot that the Minun existed. Hell, he couldn't even see the clock on the wall or the time it had displayed (1:20 PM, as his mother will remember).
As Thor scrambled to get up, he turned around to bid Ava a farewell and got a look at the little clear amniotic 'shell' emerging from her nethers and the yellow blob pressing against it. His vision went blurry as his eyes crossed and he started to fall in a faint, smacking his head on the door knob which for a short while turned his world black. He woke up in another room to a very foul smell under his nose and a blurry outline of a nurse above him. The nurse cautioned him to avoid standing up because of his fall and that he might have a concussion, but his mind was quickly refocusing on Olivia and he was pushing to his feet despite the objections. At least he could still hear well for the moment, as he was told Olivia was still being prepped and he had time to make it there. He regretted trying to get up immediately when his world started spinning which forced him to wait while they got a wheelchair for him so they could cart him to Olivia, the 'mon he was very determined on being with as per Ava's request.
Leading up to this point, Olivia did not have a smooth ride. Doctors were murmuring in tones she couldn't quite make out, her stomach felt like unusually warm and there was a burning pain centered down there, but that was greatly dulled by the epidural they gave her. She also felt unusually tired and in spite of the drugs, she started to panic when they brought the surgical trays and an incubator in. She really couldn't do anything at that point either. The epidural she was given had temporarily paralyzed her lower body and the nurses were trying, a bit unsuccessfully, to calm her down. Olivia still knew better than to let panic take over; she was scared but not terrified out of her mind. She also knew that for her to be feeling this strange heat and pain and tiredness, something definitely had gone wrong.
The doctors moved quickly at that point. They shaved a large portion of Olivia's fur off from her abdomen, washed it down with antiseptics and alcohol solutions, put surgical drapes and a curtain up, and began the surgery with the initial cut in the skin. Where she would have panicked, she only stared at the curtain as she felt something dragged across her skin with the faint impression in her mind of some kind of zipper in her belly being opened. It was an alien feeling, certainly, and if she wasn't running on adrenaline and in a state between panic and mental shock, she'd be trying to see over the curtain instead of looking right at it and screaming to the high heavens...not that she could hear her own voice at the moment.
This was where Thor entered Olivia's peripheral vision. She turned her head to look at him, and the nurse apparently half-carrying him to a chair next to her bed. He had a nice-sized bump on his head and if looks could speak volumes, he was more worried about the surgery than she was. Still, it was a good thing he came along, because he was the next target of her wild emotions, and his hands the target of her physical distress.
Thor was happy there was a curtain blocking his view of the surgery, which had by then managed to breech into her abdominal cavity. He had picked up her hand and was rewarded with a very painful grip squeezing it. He spoke some words of comfort, words he couldn't quite hear himself speaking through tinnitus of the concussion he sustained, asked her to not worry. Her response to him, jumbled by his injury, sounded like it involved using his tail as a tourniquet, and his genitals. He could only hope that was the drugs talking, and not Olivia herself.
Unfortunately Thor's mind started to wander. From where he was in relation to the doctors, his imagination started putting images in his head of what they were doing, the cuts they were making in Olivia's abdomen, and the nausea it was bringing up. The smell of her blood was making his imagination jump off a deep end and it took a lot of willpower to avoid vomiting on the floor right there. A good choice too, as nobody present in the room needed to have to deal with him losing his lunch.
Olivia groaned and started trembling, dragging Thor's attention back to reality. He could barely make out a lot of movement out of the corner of his eyes as the surgeon on call lifted first one infant from Olivia's exposed and cut-open womb, then another. They were both encased in glossy semi-transparent flexible "shells" from what he could tell. The "shells" were even egg-shaped with thick umbilical cords piercing through them snaking down and behind the operative curtain. He turned to watch, biting his lip, as the surgeon used a pair of scissors to puncture the shells which then popped and fell away like the balloons they sort-of were. The two infants were then held up so Thor and Olivia could see, the newborns (one Plusle male and one Minun female, both with Pichu markings on the tips of their ears) open their mouths for the first time to emit cries signalling their good health to the room. He didn't notice the other doctors in the background getting a bit more rushed in their work. An on-hand nurse with a video camera (which Olivia revealed was an idea she took from internet videos and her sister's suggestion) announced the time as 4:36 PM with a very calm tone, not that it helped sooth the stress Thor and Olivia were feeling.
The smell of blood came back to Thor very quickly after this revelation. Olivia was crying and the blue sheets around the surgical site that he could see suddenly turned dark and wet with what he believed was her now free-flowing blood. One of the doctors monitoring Olivia spoke, the words a bit 'fuzzy' to him. Olivia looked more tired and more than a little pale than she did a moment ago and there were those very wet surgical sheets...
The world started to spin again and Thor wobbled. Two pairs of hands grabbed hold of him and steadied him before helping him up and out of the room without a second's hesitation. His mind was already overloaded and he was not likely to remember this surgery in the morning. He wouldn't remember that he had been sitting in an operating room for three hours as the doctors performed the cesarean, a rather large amount of time to spend in surgery.
Later, in Ava's room, Olivia managed to convince a nurse to wheel her in a wheelchair to her sister's room so she could her that the reason for the long length of time in surgery was because they had a hard time controlling her bleeding, though she was too emotionally wrecked to describe it properly. She still got the message across during her brief visit.
Some inquiries from Ava's part revealed that during the latter part of the cesarean, Olivia started hemorrhaging severely after her children were delivered. She had a bad case of undetected placenta accreta and it tore when they tried to remove the placenta. This was the point that they removed Thor from the room to keep him from throwing up and blacking out. The attempted removal of the placenta ruptured the placental villi (coiled arterial veins) in the myometrium of her womb, causing a large hemorrhage. It took a lot of effort to stem the bleeding and they nearly had to resort to a hysterectomy. Luckily it didn't come to that.
Armed with this information (Which Ava regretted asking for) and with Olivia's request, the Raiek girls and Tracey (Thor's mother who was present) decided to keep this loss to themselves at least for a while. Thor had enough on his plate at the moment and his mind was still pulling itself back together so they didn't want him to panic.
Thankfully Thor was waiting in Olivia's room when she was wheeled back in and that was where he stayed through the entire night. He doesn't remember much of what they talked about that night, but she would and that was probably one of the most meaningful things (next to being present during the cesarean) he has ever done for her that she could remember. Even if he couldn't move around much in his condition, the mere fact he was there with her was more helpful and meaningful than he'll ever know. And it was a big boon toward the smile she wore the next morning when he woke.
This submission contains a graphic depiction of a mother giving birth. Further, this commission is intended to be part of a larger narrative. It is not intended to be erotic nor should it be looked at as such.
This submission contains a depiction of a mother undergoing a c-section and is meant to convey "the miracle of life" for its visual theme despite the stress the parents appear to display.
Scene is part of an event included (and glossed over) in the in-progress story "Ternary Polarity".
Upgraded to flat colors some time ago. Simple lighting effects by

Ternary Polarity Arc (In rough chronological order)
<<< PREV | FIRST | NEXT >>>
Artwork is © 2014 by


Original post is here.
Olivia Raiek is © 2014 by

Thor Volt is © 2014 by Swordfox (Me).
When the Raiek twins thought about eventual parenthood, this was earlier than what they had in mind. Much earlier. They were thinking they'd get around to it after they've entered their late 20's, when they have a career and some stability. Becoming mothers in their early young adult years was a total curve ball. In retrospect, they realized that this was just as much their fault as it was Thor's. What started as little flings turned into a love triangle which led to experimentation and then to parenthood ahead of schedule.
Olivia Raiek was rather shy and quiet during her pregnancy when in public, and a pessimist. She was elated when she learned she was having twins, but at the same time afraid of things going sideways on her. It was a long term effort to keep her from thinking negatively about her condition as it progressed, but in the eyes of her sister it was worth it.
The road for both girls was bumpy. It had its ups and downs, including a baby shower for Olivia that got interrupted by a very drunk and naked female teenage Pikachu streaking through the building. They thought Spike was responsible for that party crash, but the yena knew nothing about it and in fact claimed that the 'chu in question crashed one of his parties too. Neither of them had a clue what happened beyond that and the girl that crashed their parties had mysteriously vanished. This was just an example of one of the more seriously confusing bumps in the road to parenthood they had to deal with.
When it became apparent that Olivia was due for twins, the obstetrician kept close tabs on her. Dietary changes, ultrasound checks and even blood pressure checks were conducted on a regular basis. This was cited as required because of her weight, being classified as overweight but not dangerously so, and they had to keep an eye out for gestational diabetes. This was all well and good, but their checkups and scans failed to notice that there was indeed something wrong. And as such nobody knew what was going on in Olivia's womb.
The next several months proceeded without major incident (besides the one they failed to detect and couldn't detect with what they had on-hand). The girls had accepted that their actions have made parents out of them and were settling into their temporary home with Thor and his immediate family. For a while things seemed to be going pretty well for the them.
But one night about a month from their due dates, they both started experiencing some uncomfortable abdominal cramps. Olivia said nothing because she thought they would pass and they weren't that bad, especially during the "last hurrah" round of sex she and her sister shared with Thor (as quietly as they could manage) just the night prior. The cramps still kept her up half the night into the next day. When she observed a scene between Thor and his mother concerning an apparently personal event between the two he was negatively affected by, the hasty reactions Thor had and his mildly traumatized attitude managed to worry Olivia enough to give her a bit of distress. It was this indirect stress that turned her cramps into labor contractions after Thor had left the room. A minute later, her sister started having labor contractions as well in reaction to her panic at Olivia's early labor.
After the rushed trip to the hospital, the sisters were separated. Ava was carted off to a delivery room while the doctors with Olivia noticed she was bleeding a little with each contraction and made the choice to ship her to an operating room as fast as possible. Olivia didn't like the urgency in their voices. She knew she would have to have a cesarean section when her actual due date came around, but these doctors were talking as if they couldn't do anything to stop her early labor. Plus she didn't have a clue she was bleeding through the fire in her belly. Taking these things in, she became understandably scared.
Time seemed to blur at that point. Thor followed Ava at first, his mind a mess of emotions and confusion and his body pretty sore from helping carry the girls to the family van and again into wheelchairs. He was so jumbled that when she told him to go be with Olivia, he very nearly forgot that the Minun existed. Hell, he couldn't even see the clock on the wall or the time it had displayed (1:20 PM, as his mother will remember).
As Thor scrambled to get up, he turned around to bid Ava a farewell and got a look at the little clear amniotic 'shell' emerging from her nethers and the yellow blob pressing against it. His vision went blurry as his eyes crossed and he started to fall in a faint, smacking his head on the door knob which for a short while turned his world black. He woke up in another room to a very foul smell under his nose and a blurry outline of a nurse above him. The nurse cautioned him to avoid standing up because of his fall and that he might have a concussion, but his mind was quickly refocusing on Olivia and he was pushing to his feet despite the objections. At least he could still hear well for the moment, as he was told Olivia was still being prepped and he had time to make it there. He regretted trying to get up immediately when his world started spinning which forced him to wait while they got a wheelchair for him so they could cart him to Olivia, the 'mon he was very determined on being with as per Ava's request.
Leading up to this point, Olivia did not have a smooth ride. Doctors were murmuring in tones she couldn't quite make out, her stomach felt like unusually warm and there was a burning pain centered down there, but that was greatly dulled by the epidural they gave her. She also felt unusually tired and in spite of the drugs, she started to panic when they brought the surgical trays and an incubator in. She really couldn't do anything at that point either. The epidural she was given had temporarily paralyzed her lower body and the nurses were trying, a bit unsuccessfully, to calm her down. Olivia still knew better than to let panic take over; she was scared but not terrified out of her mind. She also knew that for her to be feeling this strange heat and pain and tiredness, something definitely had gone wrong.
The doctors moved quickly at that point. They shaved a large portion of Olivia's fur off from her abdomen, washed it down with antiseptics and alcohol solutions, put surgical drapes and a curtain up, and began the surgery with the initial cut in the skin. Where she would have panicked, she only stared at the curtain as she felt something dragged across her skin with the faint impression in her mind of some kind of zipper in her belly being opened. It was an alien feeling, certainly, and if she wasn't running on adrenaline and in a state between panic and mental shock, she'd be trying to see over the curtain instead of looking right at it and screaming to the high heavens...not that she could hear her own voice at the moment.
This was where Thor entered Olivia's peripheral vision. She turned her head to look at him, and the nurse apparently half-carrying him to a chair next to her bed. He had a nice-sized bump on his head and if looks could speak volumes, he was more worried about the surgery than she was. Still, it was a good thing he came along, because he was the next target of her wild emotions, and his hands the target of her physical distress.
Thor was happy there was a curtain blocking his view of the surgery, which had by then managed to breech into her abdominal cavity. He had picked up her hand and was rewarded with a very painful grip squeezing it. He spoke some words of comfort, words he couldn't quite hear himself speaking through tinnitus of the concussion he sustained, asked her to not worry. Her response to him, jumbled by his injury, sounded like it involved using his tail as a tourniquet, and his genitals. He could only hope that was the drugs talking, and not Olivia herself.
Unfortunately Thor's mind started to wander. From where he was in relation to the doctors, his imagination started putting images in his head of what they were doing, the cuts they were making in Olivia's abdomen, and the nausea it was bringing up. The smell of her blood was making his imagination jump off a deep end and it took a lot of willpower to avoid vomiting on the floor right there. A good choice too, as nobody present in the room needed to have to deal with him losing his lunch.
Olivia groaned and started trembling, dragging Thor's attention back to reality. He could barely make out a lot of movement out of the corner of his eyes as the surgeon on call lifted first one infant from Olivia's exposed and cut-open womb, then another. They were both encased in glossy semi-transparent flexible "shells" from what he could tell. The "shells" were even egg-shaped with thick umbilical cords piercing through them snaking down and behind the operative curtain. He turned to watch, biting his lip, as the surgeon used a pair of scissors to puncture the shells which then popped and fell away like the balloons they sort-of were. The two infants were then held up so Thor and Olivia could see, the newborns (one Plusle male and one Minun female, both with Pichu markings on the tips of their ears) open their mouths for the first time to emit cries signalling their good health to the room. He didn't notice the other doctors in the background getting a bit more rushed in their work. An on-hand nurse with a video camera (which Olivia revealed was an idea she took from internet videos and her sister's suggestion) announced the time as 4:36 PM with a very calm tone, not that it helped sooth the stress Thor and Olivia were feeling.
The smell of blood came back to Thor very quickly after this revelation. Olivia was crying and the blue sheets around the surgical site that he could see suddenly turned dark and wet with what he believed was her now free-flowing blood. One of the doctors monitoring Olivia spoke, the words a bit 'fuzzy' to him. Olivia looked more tired and more than a little pale than she did a moment ago and there were those very wet surgical sheets...
The world started to spin again and Thor wobbled. Two pairs of hands grabbed hold of him and steadied him before helping him up and out of the room without a second's hesitation. His mind was already overloaded and he was not likely to remember this surgery in the morning. He wouldn't remember that he had been sitting in an operating room for three hours as the doctors performed the cesarean, a rather large amount of time to spend in surgery.
Later, in Ava's room, Olivia managed to convince a nurse to wheel her in a wheelchair to her sister's room so she could her that the reason for the long length of time in surgery was because they had a hard time controlling her bleeding, though she was too emotionally wrecked to describe it properly. She still got the message across during her brief visit.
Some inquiries from Ava's part revealed that during the latter part of the cesarean, Olivia started hemorrhaging severely after her children were delivered. She had a bad case of undetected placenta accreta and it tore when they tried to remove the placenta. This was the point that they removed Thor from the room to keep him from throwing up and blacking out. The attempted removal of the placenta ruptured the placental villi (coiled arterial veins) in the myometrium of her womb, causing a large hemorrhage. It took a lot of effort to stem the bleeding and they nearly had to resort to a hysterectomy. Luckily it didn't come to that.
Armed with this information (Which Ava regretted asking for) and with Olivia's request, the Raiek girls and Tracey (Thor's mother who was present) decided to keep this loss to themselves at least for a while. Thor had enough on his plate at the moment and his mind was still pulling itself back together so they didn't want him to panic.
Thankfully Thor was waiting in Olivia's room when she was wheeled back in and that was where he stayed through the entire night. He doesn't remember much of what they talked about that night, but she would and that was probably one of the most meaningful things (next to being present during the cesarean) he has ever done for her that she could remember. Even if he couldn't move around much in his condition, the mere fact he was there with her was more helpful and meaningful than he'll ever know. And it was a big boon toward the smile she wore the next morning when he woke.
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...No wonder I couldn't wrap my mind around these pictures. This is some heavy stuff to deal with, even as a mere witness.
It also makes me realise just how much I rely on dialogue rather than description when I write stories... Maybe I should look into that.
Either way, thanks for the extract! This explains a lot, and has made my head all fuzzy in the process... Brilliant storytelling!
It also makes me realise just how much I rely on dialogue rather than description when I write stories... Maybe I should look into that.
Either way, thanks for the extract! This explains a lot, and has made my head all fuzzy in the process... Brilliant storytelling!
There was more to it that this but the meat and potatoes are there. I want to proceed further with the story so I can post more of it, but Luircin is dealing with real life (got a chaplaincy job at a hospital in NYC, but the search for an apartment and a car for his commuting is not going well and he has 3 weeks to do this). I have to wait for his life to settle down before I can go further.
Well we all have our troubles, yeah? Me, I throw my daily rhythm out the window every chance I get, and I keep chugging down sugary drinks like they're water. I mean, it's nothing like teen adulthood or commuting in NYC, but y'know... One night I might just wake up without any teeth left. XD
...I take my life more seriously than you might think. I just like joking about poor subjects. ^^;
...I take my life more seriously than you might think. I just like joking about poor subjects. ^^;
He has his, yeah. I'd write it myself but I like co-op better as he controls the Raiek girls in the story and knows their personalities more than I do. It's kind of like being worried you'll end up writing them doing and saying things that are out-of-character.
I can't co-op with him right now either for the same reason I can't commission him for more writing. If he can get his problems sorted and has settled down, it will be possible. Until then I'm going to assume a hands-off except for light-hearted discussion on the characters.
I can't co-op with him right now either for the same reason I can't commission him for more writing. If he can get his problems sorted and has settled down, it will be possible. Until then I'm going to assume a hands-off except for light-hearted discussion on the characters.
From what I can recall, the patients are typically given a regional anesthetic (awake) rather than a general anesthetic ('asleep'). AFAIK, the majority of cesarean tend to ask for a regional anesthetic because they want to be awake when their child(ren) are born.
When it comes to the types of anesthetics, normal planned cesareans use an epidural near the spine. Moderate emergencies (like this one) use a spinal anesthetic (also known as a spinal block) where it is administered directly into the spinal fluid. And for absolute "drop everything" emergencies, they use general anesthesia.
But that's mostly IRL stuff. While this situation called for a spinal block due to the urgency of the situation, they do have the benefit of their "pokemon medical science" for making it less of a bumpy ride. Like potion mixtures and poultices to help speed up the body's healing. Though in this setting their effect isn't instantaneous and still takes time to do its work.
When it comes to the types of anesthetics, normal planned cesareans use an epidural near the spine. Moderate emergencies (like this one) use a spinal anesthetic (also known as a spinal block) where it is administered directly into the spinal fluid. And for absolute "drop everything" emergencies, they use general anesthesia.
But that's mostly IRL stuff. While this situation called for a spinal block due to the urgency of the situation, they do have the benefit of their "pokemon medical science" for making it less of a bumpy ride. Like potion mixtures and poultices to help speed up the body's healing. Though in this setting their effect isn't instantaneous and still takes time to do its work.
The majority of C-sections tend to be done near the ribcage, immediately below it, and often a rushed C-section can damage the organs nearby.
A C-section is never performed near the vagina, and is never performed at the pelvis.
Simply put, I'm coming to an understanding you've never seen a C-section get done, or heard of one.
I have, so I have to say, you have no idea what your talking about.
A C-section performed anywhere else would be fatal to either the infant, or mother.
A C-section without anesthetic like you believe would be disastrous.
You never saw a C-section be performed. You have no medical training like people in my family.
Do not state you know how medicine and surgery works by simply giving random crazy guesses and theories.
A C-section is never performed near the vagina, and is never performed at the pelvis.
Simply put, I'm coming to an understanding you've never seen a C-section get done, or heard of one.
I have, so I have to say, you have no idea what your talking about.
A C-section performed anywhere else would be fatal to either the infant, or mother.
A C-section without anesthetic like you believe would be disastrous.
You never saw a C-section be performed. You have no medical training like people in my family.
Do not state you know how medicine and surgery works by simply giving random crazy guesses and theories.
1) This image would disagree with you. And so would my own mother.
2) I never claimed to be an expert or even have medical training. But I read a lot. And of the places I've gone for research, they all pointed out that "standard" cesarean incisions are lower transverse (while emergency c-sections are classical). I've never heard of or seen one performed under the rib cage and I've seen no online research papers on such a thing yet. Besides which, cesarean sections are still categorized major surgeries (as they should be). But again, that is real life medicine for you.
3) I didn't say it wasn't done without anesthetic. The character depicted here received a spinal block anesthetic for that specific situation. Even in real life, cesareans are all performed under one of the three anesthetic choices (epidural, spinal, or general).
3.1) There's only one instance I've heard of where a cesarean was performed without an anesthetic. In 2004, a Mexican woman in a poor town had been in labor long enough that she became terrified of having a stillborn. And rather than wait two hours for help to arrive, and with a husband off at work, she ended up giving herself a cesarean with only a heavy swig of booze to deal with the pain. All while her eight year old son was looking to get help. She was incredibly lucky that she and the baby survived that.
4) I don't like the tone of voice presented here. At first I thought the posts you left on the "bombshell" submission was a little strange and even a head-scratcher (except the one where you express approval to Thor's stepping up to help raise the new family). Looking back, your comments on this submission feel more like an attempt to make me feel like an idiot. And I don't appreciate that.
5) If trying to make me feel like an idiot is not your intent, well I won't take offense. I will point out that I am using what information I have available form online sources. This includes cesarean.org, parents.com, mayoclinic, webmd, and babycenter to name a few.
6) All in all, I don't want this to turn into an argument if I can avoid it. So can we not continue this kind of back and forth over medical stuff and just try to enjoy the art and stories presented? :)
2) I never claimed to be an expert or even have medical training. But I read a lot. And of the places I've gone for research, they all pointed out that "standard" cesarean incisions are lower transverse (while emergency c-sections are classical). I've never heard of or seen one performed under the rib cage and I've seen no online research papers on such a thing yet. Besides which, cesarean sections are still categorized major surgeries (as they should be). But again, that is real life medicine for you.
3) I didn't say it wasn't done without anesthetic. The character depicted here received a spinal block anesthetic for that specific situation. Even in real life, cesareans are all performed under one of the three anesthetic choices (epidural, spinal, or general).
3.1) There's only one instance I've heard of where a cesarean was performed without an anesthetic. In 2004, a Mexican woman in a poor town had been in labor long enough that she became terrified of having a stillborn. And rather than wait two hours for help to arrive, and with a husband off at work, she ended up giving herself a cesarean with only a heavy swig of booze to deal with the pain. All while her eight year old son was looking to get help. She was incredibly lucky that she and the baby survived that.
4) I don't like the tone of voice presented here. At first I thought the posts you left on the "bombshell" submission was a little strange and even a head-scratcher (except the one where you express approval to Thor's stepping up to help raise the new family). Looking back, your comments on this submission feel more like an attempt to make me feel like an idiot. And I don't appreciate that.
5) If trying to make me feel like an idiot is not your intent, well I won't take offense. I will point out that I am using what information I have available form online sources. This includes cesarean.org, parents.com, mayoclinic, webmd, and babycenter to name a few.
6) All in all, I don't want this to turn into an argument if I can avoid it. So can we not continue this kind of back and forth over medical stuff and just try to enjoy the art and stories presented? :)
Electrocautery is a fuckin beast and makes the OR smell like a really hairy guy having a bland barbeque. And csections can get pretty darn violent, wrenching skin and muscle apart with surgical steel. And it's actually better for the patient! Tearing that bun out of the oven causes less trauma than going at it with a knife! Shits fuckin metal!
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