if i re call i saw him hanging on your wall XD *saw the vids*

I thought you loved...meeee?

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The red really brings out your eyes

Che Guevara. clouding the judgement of bored teenagers since 1967

Fun fact: The Bolivian man who executed Che Guevara later used the national healthcare system he pioneered to cure his blindness. :3

the argument that che founded hospitals is similar to the saying that mussolini made the trains run on time. or the opinion that hitler was a nice man in person. they don't change the fact that the person was responsible for many un-needed deaths and war crimes

You should be familiar phrase "you'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes" - this is testament to the fact that you can't bring about change without making sacrifices. And everyone loves change!

i'm not saying that che guevaras revolution was not for the greater good, Castros government style in the context means that the revolution and tactics of guevara was certainly the lesser of two evils. i'm just saying, his tactics, leadership style and brutality do not make him an ideal role model.

He makes a pretty good role model in the sense that he's the symbol of revolution and counter-culture movements worldwide. Most lovely.

counter culture? how about martin luther king? or johny rotten? they rebeled. they didn't kill anybody though.

and you claim to rebel against community, when all you really do is conform to social norms. maybe you're a bit 'out there' in the beret and furry sense, but you're still not going against the social norm. go to work naked. shit on a church pew. something like that. you're not counter-culture at all

Hey, the counter-culture bit I got from the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article, but he sure as hell was a revolutionary. The things you listed were just crude, the hippies were counter-culture, but they didn't crap in churches.

The Cuban Revolution killed people, but the effects of it saved many, many more. Meanwhile capitalism to this day continues to kill many, many people - be it though standard greed, war or famine.

you're not getting what i'm saying. i've already said that the cuban revolution was the lesser of two evils. its just that people like martin luther king and gahndi went against the social structure and won without using violence. in a way they were 'rebels', but rebels without spilling a drop of innocent blood. their ways of revolution are clearly more admirable than the brutal methods of guevara

Guevara didn't spill innocent blood, he killed only capitalists and those who refused to comply 8D

Note how so far I never said I completely agreed with all the methods used in the Cuban Revolution, however having a fursona that was black and shot in the eye or bald, imprisoned and had funny glasses wouldn't be the most desirable thing. Especially since they don't fit as well as Guevara does with my far-left political views.

Plus Guevara reminds us that you can't achieve without sacrificing something, which is an alright way to work by.

Guevara was well known for his direct manner of dealing with traitors etc. execution without fair trial or even chance for the accused to plead innocence. doubtlessley many of them had done nothing against the revolution, they were just victims

Doesn't change the fact that he most accurately represents my socio-political beliefs. I have previously said - if controversially - that I would kill another person if I thought they presented a serious threat to the goodness and well being of a group of people.

if thats your stance, theres no point arguing with you. i am only against those who superficialy pedistalize Che as an idol of revolution, but you have clearly imersed yourself very deeply in his principles and ways of thinking. at least you're not a hypocryte anyway. i can't say i find your stance very logical or even moral, but at least you're not one of these sad kids who know nothing about him or what he stood for, what he did, what his values were.
you and i both do, only you aggree with him, and i disagree. so, shall we end the argument on that note? we're not going to change each others minds

I got no issue with ending here, I have a web design journal to read, then I might draw a bit :P

Thank the Furry Guru episode that helped me remember that fact. 83

i like ur bat characters! they got such special awesome look , keep it up man! =3

Great drawing of Tori.

Ah Che....like Dr. Mengele who actually enjoyed killing his patients...usually with a pistol.