EDIT: FIXED http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14826618/
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I am feeling a bit art-blocky, moose are just so freaken strange looking compared to other things I have built that my muse is confused! So I figured it would be best to post this for public scrutiny on if I have the shape and symmetry right on this before I move forward.
(I know the eyebrow circles of foam are crooked, will fix)
I worry it looks like a horse with a big droopy nose... granted I told that to my sister and she says that what moose are so maybe this sculpt is correct?
I am not going for 100% real but "characterized real" like the gray deer, so the eyebrow area is over exaggerated.
I also, once again, worry about the size, granted moose do have big heads and the customer is tall and not twiggy, plus I plan to pad out the chest and shoulders on the suit so the body will be quite bulky... (I know my heads have been a bit on the big side as of late, but I really would rather have them be a bit too big than too small)
And as a bonus have some Raskle cleaning himself X3
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I am feeling a bit art-blocky, moose are just so freaken strange looking compared to other things I have built that my muse is confused! So I figured it would be best to post this for public scrutiny on if I have the shape and symmetry right on this before I move forward.
(I know the eyebrow circles of foam are crooked, will fix)
I worry it looks like a horse with a big droopy nose... granted I told that to my sister and she says that what moose are so maybe this sculpt is correct?
I am not going for 100% real but "characterized real" like the gray deer, so the eyebrow area is over exaggerated.
I also, once again, worry about the size, granted moose do have big heads and the customer is tall and not twiggy, plus I plan to pad out the chest and shoulders on the suit so the body will be quite bulky... (I know my heads have been a bit on the big side as of late, but I really would rather have them be a bit too big than too small)
And as a bonus have some Raskle cleaning himself X3
Category All / Fursuit
Species Unspecified / Any
Size 1280 x 873px
File Size 288.1 kB
Here's a lil reference that kind of shows what I'm referring to!
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://akonthego.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DSC_4706.jpg&imgrefurl=http://akonthego.com/blog/alaska-moose-safety-tips-for-visiting-families-and-the-rest-of-us&h=2496&w=3235&tbnid=yBT2d10aK0ZJPM:&zoom=1&docid=obPyd7R3Q6ylHM&hl=en&ei=JA5IVIikO4OuyATp9oCQCA&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CFMQMyglMCU
Moose snouts are almost bulbous, and are dropped down a bit more than horses, ah, like more curvy if that makes sense.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://akonthego.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DSC_4706.jpg&imgrefurl=http://akonthego.com/blog/alaska-moose-safety-tips-for-visiting-families-and-the-rest-of-us&h=2496&w=3235&tbnid=yBT2d10aK0ZJPM:&zoom=1&docid=obPyd7R3Q6ylHM&hl=en&ei=JA5IVIikO4OuyATp9oCQCA&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CFMQMyglMCU
Moose snouts are almost bulbous, and are dropped down a bit more than horses, ah, like more curvy if that makes sense.
Maybe make the nose a bit more sloped at the end like this http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013.....80_634x419.jpg
that one is like extra-sloped, I was going more for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.....Male_Moose.jpg
... close. Right now, looks like a big horse. Needs more bulk on the bridge of the nose, and a bit more of a 'flabby' upper lip. Guessing you're gonna add the dewlap in as just a cloth layer (maybe with a weight in the very end to make it flop around majestically)? :P
Nostrils are a bit too up-and-down, need to be more diagonally angled, with the front/top edges 'hanging' a little over the openings. Nose all full of flab, if that helps the mental image.
Nostrils are a bit too up-and-down, need to be more diagonally angled, with the front/top edges 'hanging' a little over the openings. Nose all full of flab, if that helps the mental image.
Hmmm...based on the pic you posted that you're using for a reference...i'd say add a bit more of an arch to the nose area and have the curve at the end of the nose a bit softer, less angular. I think you're gonna have to bulk out the back of the neck area more as well, Moose have thick necks. Biggest thing i'd probably recommend is taking the picture you're using as a ref, and transposing it over the suit's head, so you can see just how your outlines match or what areas you may need to bulk up more.
Looks like there's going to be a lot of weight on the owner's head, once you add in the horns (though depends on just how big the horns are you're gonna build). May need to consider some sort of head/neck harness to help support the weight.
Looks like there's going to be a lot of weight on the owner's head, once you add in the horns (though depends on just how big the horns are you're gonna build). May need to consider some sort of head/neck harness to help support the weight.
Like the others said, the nose/upper lip area should be more of just a flap. Think horse, who just has WAAAAYYYYY to much skin around the end of its muzzle.
I dont know what you're going to do furring wise, but you cant really see a moose's nostrils either from the front or side; like they arent defined, just slits that actually end up following the contour of the upper lip.
Id also round off the top of the snout. and bring the upper lip down over the lower jaw more. they also dont have that much of a curved and defined jaw because the (again) super flappy skin and fur around the neck and dewlap. it just kinda angles in and disappears into the neck.
Sorry im not so great at describing things, much better with just redlining or drawing >.<
Here's a good HD video with plenty of close ups:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN5PmOS34hI
I dont know what you're going to do furring wise, but you cant really see a moose's nostrils either from the front or side; like they arent defined, just slits that actually end up following the contour of the upper lip.
Id also round off the top of the snout. and bring the upper lip down over the lower jaw more. they also dont have that much of a curved and defined jaw because the (again) super flappy skin and fur around the neck and dewlap. it just kinda angles in and disappears into the neck.
Sorry im not so great at describing things, much better with just redlining or drawing >.<
Here's a good HD video with plenty of close ups:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN5PmOS34hI
Looks more like a horse than a moose.. moose's heads and noses are very bulky, here i did a redline over one of the images for you: http://i.imgur.com/ZEVhF8t.jpg
hope it helps! ^^
hope it helps! ^^
I think everyone's suggested most of what I'd suggest.. biggest things would be a more arched top of the muzzle and a less squared-off, more organic/rounded droopy nose.
Obviously I'm not sure how many you did use, but make sure you don't limit yourself to just one or two ref photos.
Found a couple that show what folks are talking about
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013.....80_634x419.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012.....88_634x464.jpg
http://www.faama.org/wp-content/upl.....01/moose21.jpg
Moose are very bulgy and lumpy and rounded, not quite so squared off, and their nostrils tend to bulge out, though you do have the shape of them right.
Obviously I'm not sure how many you did use, but make sure you don't limit yourself to just one or two ref photos.
Found a couple that show what folks are talking about
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013.....80_634x419.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012.....88_634x464.jpg
http://www.faama.org/wp-content/upl.....01/moose21.jpg
Moose are very bulgy and lumpy and rounded, not quite so squared off, and their nostrils tend to bulge out, though you do have the shape of them right.
Not sure if linked but this photo is a great profile shot of a moose that highlights its unique muzzle shape:
http://www.vtfishandwildlife.com/vt.....ith%20bell.jpg
If you put your hand over the nose, the back half of the head really looks like a large deer's. But that nose is really large and bulbous--it hangs below the jawline, is wider than the part of the muzzle adjacent and is actually rather straight/flat at its tip.
http://www.vtfishandwildlife.com/vt.....ith%20bell.jpg
If you put your hand over the nose, the back half of the head really looks like a large deer's. But that nose is really large and bulbous--it hangs below the jawline, is wider than the part of the muzzle adjacent and is actually rather straight/flat at its tip.
Maybe give the nostrils a flap on top? It looks like that's the only thing off. :3 Oh and the top of the muzzle thing part has a dip down: http://www.vtfishandwildlife.com/vt.....ith%20bell.jpg and http://richwolf.files.wordpress.com.....se-68-5x11.jpg
It's a very slight dip thingy but I think it would help make it more "moose" instead of "horse" ish. :3
It's a very slight dip thingy but I think it would help make it more "moose" instead of "horse" ish. :3
Might help to look at a skull cause then the flesh goes on top of it explaining how and why it folds and such
moose skull : https://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/s20.....of%20Moose.jpg
moose skull : https://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/s20.....of%20Moose.jpg
I would say the top lip has to droop downwards a little more. The nose doesn't have that droopy, goofy quality that moose have. He also needs to be more "roman nosed". As in, the line running down the front of the face shouldn't be straight/flat, but it should be more convex and bulbous.
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