H. R. Giger.... would give you a thumbs up.

I luvs Giger,

always will, really opened my mind up to creative
bizarre art as a kid.

I can't say I'm a huge fan of his stuff, but I can't say I dislike it either. Some of it is very ascetically pleasing with the mix of alien and female form... but some of it makes me go o_0* hehe...

so what was in the box?

wow...

you know I didn't even think of that.

i remember another dream I had when I was 14
that I had a severed head in a box,
and I took it out in the snow with me propped it up on
turn table and started writing down all the things that it
spoke to me.

ironically so I wouldn't forget....lol.

so...
I don't know maybe that head.

but realistically I think I had to return it to Wal-mart for some reason.
something that someone got that needed to be returned, that's
more of a real life scenario that would play on my psyche bizarrely
like that. lol

oh dreams are fun.

I don't think they would refund your hand

that's okay, I would've still needed a hand,
but the bag needs to go back, no one wants that....
whatever it is.

hellraiser?

yea maybe,
but for some reason my worst concern
was being ripped off with a devil bag. lol.

like I say I think some simple parts of reality
were more concerning then the fact the
stuff looked really eerie.

lol

more consurened you wanted your money back than your hand back? XD

i guess because with the hand it's just me,
but with money apparently every body has a problem then.

and technically I still had a hand.

But who's hand was it?

Hehe I think the strangest dream that stands out to me that I had had a profound affect on me and it had nothing to do with the already rather bizzar dream but what stepped into it.....

While the dream was going focus shifted as something changed oddly, there was this iron relieve plack of Elvis (I have no idea wtf there) it rippled and distorted, the way you see heat bending the light you see it was like space was bending and rippling as water when a drop hits it. Through this affect came a cat.... Looked like any other house cat would save an air of sentience and intelligence in its behaviors and actions and it was black. This is one of the more fucked up parts mind you. It was not black as in it had black fur, no it was black in every I seance of it's being was black.... Even the 'whites' of the eyes black, teeth and claws black, tounge black and now that I think about it I'm not sure it had a shadow pork lay because that's likely what it was in a way? Idk

But it knew it was in a dream even though I did not and it looked around searching and then a pulse shot from its head like the air rippling affects on the slow mo bullets in the matrix only no bullets and it whent quite fast

EVERYTHING it came in contact with shattered to pices and the pices to pices till there was nothing but a sea of chaotic shifting energies filling the void left in its wake. It did this till a good chunk off the dream was just gone and I was starting to freak out. When it saw me and I realized it was looking for me I realized it was a dream and then it did the same thing I my direction, I kinda panicked and some how did the same thing right back at it.

However what I shot was less bullet like and more bazooka like lol like 2~3 metters wide instead of less than a foot and tore everything apart.... Just one massive unfocused blast. It's .....what ever it was we did was much weaker but it was focused and cut through mine, it weakened it a LOT slowing it down and shrinking away as the waves like canceled each other out but it was force in a small area passing through force agenst it all spread out so it hit me with still quite the punch to it. Yet what ever I shot out the wave had enough momentum that the other cutting through didn't create a gap, it just flowed around the other wave and it hit the cat.

So we both bit each other, cat got hit first though because my wave slowed it's down but not by much... Enough though to see it shatter into millions of pices though before I got bit and woke up in agony

God I was in so much pain.... So much pain I didn't leave my bed even to go to the bathroom that day just staked in bed and sleep and had horried nightmares. Was still hurting for ah few days after but not enough I couldn't take care of myself. But I was mostly bed ridden for three or four days and the nightmares I had wore the worst I have ever had in my life.

Yet when all was said and done the pent up anger and other various nasty district ice and hurtful emotions about various abusers particularly like everyone at school and the like, well they where all gone.

This was a BIG deal beacuase my pent up anger was so bad people could push me to a point where I would just snap and lose it and my beast mind would take over instead, at which time I got really really tough and strong and usaly tried very badly to hurt the person making me angry or some other aspect of my mind would jump in and displace the anger. (like one time I aprently broke the case that held the fire exstiguisher with my fist in the middle of a conversation and didn't even notice I had done it even though it was fine one moment and then bent all to hell the next). Guess at first my mind blocked out I was even doing it, but thankfully I got to a point I was aware when it happened and could kinda be a backseat driver and force my raging beast mind in the drection of something that don't mater if it gets broken

It sucked though...... After my dream though that was all gone, totally 100% no pent up anger hell back to like when I was a kid where I can't stay angry at anyone for anything. I even got hit rather hard and painfully enough to make me collapse after that and I didn't even fell any twinge of rage or the like when in the past it was more like they hit me and then I snarled and roared at them and five guys would be fighting to hold me down lol

I am so glad that's behind me and it had something to do with that dream invasion

I wish to have a new hand..

i couldn't handle it,
i remember my heart skipping a beat everytime I looked at it.
I think that's why I tried to imagine it more normal looking.

Well to be honest..Mine look like crap

you know I learned how to read dreams a bit all I can say is

your dream is based on your drawing and how it shaped your life
your weird looking hand is the strain and pains of it
the bag is...well....a sorta visualized version of..I dunno all your work
possibly your talent as an artist and how you see it sub-consciously
and the nonsensical precision tool is probably a pencil or pen or whatever you use during your drawings

yea, i thought that too,
but it could take shapes, like guns and needles but...they
were still things that I could use as tools...it just scared me
to see how it looked.

it was just too gross looking,
and it scarred me was all.

and honestly I love to draw, I never seem to exhaust from it
especially things I love to draw so "strain"...I don't have it.

the bag....maybe... I always see my work as constantly needing improvement,
but still to symbolize it to that low of an idea, makes it seem like I"m
not seeing it as needing improvement but hating it all together that I need
to scrap and and start over.

I suppose in my younger days I did feel that way,
but now I hang on to what I have and keep working on top of it
to improve it.

but I can see there is some truth to what you say.
so I do believe it to some degree.

thank you for the input on that,
that really is a bit mind opening.

and what you said just now cleared a bit of confusion for me
its possible that the entire dream was about you in your younger days
and how you improved seeing that the freaky hand you could change back to normal
probably means how you improved

also no problem im into meta-physical mind probeing

hmm,
i can see that,
that's a really cool thought.

I guess I didn't perceive how that could
be improvement, but in the moment seeing
everything it's just a freaky trip.

yeah if my hand turned into a guyver or the T-9000's mangled body yeah id flip out

That last part...the precision tool...reminds me of this beta art i saw for Epic Mickey,depicting really fucked up half mechanical disney characters like Goofy and Donald...

I remember that image,
and holy shit that is scary,
me and my daughter saw those images
and both freaked out and erked happily
because we both love weird horror shit
like that.

yea, terminator Donald and Goofy was a sight to behold. lol

but also,
all those mechanisms on the "precision tool"
that was all muscle, bone and cartilage kinda
like the way a raw chicken looks when it's opened up,
just a bloody mess filled with moving parts.

You're afraid you've been just a tool of your own talent, becoming a machine that wants perfection above all, even losing your humanity.

It happens.

well, the thing is nothing looked mechanical at all,
it just looked like a bunch of bones and raw meat just morphing
and taking different abstract shapes.

and to lose humanity...not really, if anything I think being allowed to go
crazy and learn to really appreciate things that are fucked up
really gives a way of seeing how human a person really is.

nothing can be perfect without room for imperfection.

Perfection is but a illusion, the measure of knowledge about our own imperfections adds to our talent.

Well, if you appreciated that why did you sounded so scared?

Either way, good to know you're still curious and hungry for knowledge.

It takes a long way for a human to realize the extent of its own being.

because it was still scary to look at.

the same way certain fish and bugs in the world
are really scary to look at, even if certain bugs or fish
don't bite or won't hurt you, they can still have a very
unattractive look to them that makes your heart skip.

and in this case it was the same feeling,
brain could only handle so much of it.

Yikes, that sounds super spooky! O.O

Yeah. This certainly feels H.R. Geiger. Though luckily without as many nightmare fuel designs ha ha.

Hands are among the first things we see growing up, they are so familiar to us it registers on some deep level. I guess in a sense your freak out over the hand was a feeling of a loss of something that has been sooo familiar your entire life.

Have you been watching Parasyte lately?

I love Parasyte,
and I've been reading it since 1997,

so glad it FINALLY has a tv adaptation.
yea, that last part of the dream did
make me think of Parasyte, but it
didn't really morph like that at first
it was just some weird attachment
that was needed to handle a living
satchel.

I wonder how heavy the box was, did it make a sound inside, what is the meaning of the box to your life? A burden of some sort? The hand to hold it could mean a intricacy of thoughts, feelings wrapped up so it could transport something you couldn't handle? It reminds me a lot of hellraiser puzzle box. Something you do not wanna open.

yea, but funny enough I didn't want to open the box because then
I wouldn't be able to return it, lol.

I'm not sure, lots of things to make of this dream.

wierd stuff that happens in dreams huh. i recently had dream where i embedded a guard rail in a person's face and they weren't hurt in the slightest.

the abstract can be really fun to explore.

Dreams are weiiiiiird shit, especially when you're sick!

Recently, I had a cold, and dreampt I was back in my old house in Seattle Washington. In the old house, there's a good view of the bay downtown from the upstairs window. ANYWAYS! Dreamed I was walking up from downstairs, and as soon as I got up to the point where I could see where the cruise ships and cargo ships dock, I noticed the usual pile of shipping containers at the far side of the bay... Almost immediately, my eyes were drawn to an off-colored blue shipping container. As soon as my eyes settled on it, I placed a foot on the next step. Then, time seemed to slow down. The crate I was staring at shattered, the pieces gaining a glow as the flew outwards, the now-molten shards tearing through the other containers...Then, I saw a distinctive shape... A mushroom cloud, going up from where the container was... I had this dream multiple times while I was sick, the dream going a bit further each time, the last iteration ending with me being thrown off my feet and down the stairs... If I believed in the sort of thing; I'd've said it was some sort of premonitional dream, of somebody smuggling a dirty bomb into Seattle.

now that is interesting,
sometimes they do hold meanings and other
times it could just be a sense of warning
just to be more cautious. not that it would
be a definite thing to occur, but some kind
of warning your mind is telling you to simply
"be careful" even if the situations are some
times the complete opposite.

Very strange, I had a bad dream a few days ago myself. I had this strange infection in my right hand and over time it lead to the amputation of my whole arm, it was really scary because there were so many things that I couldnt do that would require both hands

dismemberment of any body part can be really scary,
i think a lot of people can relate to that as a common
and natural fear.

just look at 127 hours,
even though it's just a drama it really sticks out
as a REAL horror movie, it's a huge process to
go through the psychology of losing bits of yourself.

Dreams sometimes can be so realistic that it will ruin you day.

Sometime (often) I can control my dreams and shape it as I like o_O
Idk how but I feel very conscious and take control.
Not sure if anyone can do this or just me one of the few who can.


Love the detailed mecha hand, this can be story of horror manga.
Reminded me of one called Parasite.
Very similar to your dream o_O

oh I love parasyte,
I read that thing way back in middle school,
and it's FINALLY gotten an Anime,
and it is awesome.

Oh? Just knew about the anime.

I read Parasyte lately, was published 95 :) loved the old style and characters, felt nostalgic.
Wished if they kept it that way.

yea, they made him more nerdy in the show,
I use to read that comic way back when it was
published in MixZine, that was back when anime
was very unique.

seems like a lot has gotten very generic over the years,
or it could just be the over abundance of things and
it only feels like it's blurring together for me.

but that was one to always stand out,
and it is a good one.