A.k.a uncle kage

Yah it realy hit the nail on the heead.

Anime-fandom has a sexual side, but it dosen't dominate many discussions in and about the community. Like, people aren't always asking if the guys and girls in cosplay, use their costumes to fuck latter on.

like. Some might, some don't. But take a moment and realize, WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING THAT QUESTION?

Yeah, he's even specifically told people (or says he's told people) "Yes, it's true: Furries are the only people who have sex"
Sarcastic, sure, but at least he's acknowledging that they have sex.

I love his one liners he he he he!

WELL I DIDN'T WANNA NAME NAMES

what a savage beatdown of a strip

Somebody get it to the ER

Haha this is so true.
Okay but seriously gotta at least keep the bodily fluids at a reasonable distance from such an investment.

That's what plastic wrap is for!

lol

not sure if I should ask what it's even like xD

I hear it's like banging a mattress while wearing a mattress.

X,D

You have no idea how hard this made me laugh, really. xD

You know it really undersells the comic shown when your comments on it have better punchlines.

People deny the sexual aspects to show that furry fandom is MORE than 'sexual deviency'. There are a lot of things wrong with this

1) It's continuing the circle of "sex is bad" (It's not. It's normal, people are shamed into having a negative attitude towards sex)
2) It denies that sexual things can be important
3) It ALSO denies that things can be both sexual AND nonsexual.It's almost like furry fandom is a huge community and people within it vary wildly! Wow! Both are valid, neither deserve ridicule. Some people like furry fandom for the sex, some don't. Most are a mix of the two, as people are neither 100% black and white.
4) Theres nothing wrong with being a furry and NOT having to do with the 'yiff' aspects. Someone can be a furry and it can be totally nonsexual, my issue is when they put down others that ARE into the sexual aspects. Putting down the others that are not relating to you is not only bad, it completely continues the shame of furry fandom

This is generally how I feel about it. The sexual aspects of this fandom (particularly how open and accepting we are about everything) are actually rather important. Not even close to everyone is involved in them, of course, but it's a genuine cornerstone all the same. The issue really is that for us to admit that that side a) exists and b) is more than a little significant, there's this worry that it would somehow "validate" all the insults and snide remarks thrown towards the fandom over the years. Which itself comes out of that odd, never-ceasing need we all seem to have to declare this completely irregular and strange hobby something that's totally normal and wonderful for all. Gotta justify ourselves for some reason. Which always struck me as even more unusual in and of itself.

I totally agree! I think everyone seeks validation, whether they admit it or not. If you don't you must be incredible! I would say I feel that it is both abnormal, AND totally normal and wonderful for all. 'Normality' being very very VERY relative, of course. Some consider eating animals irregular, some consider certain clothes we don't second guess TOTALLY weird. If a larger amount of people participate, it earns the certificate of normality, since those answering the poll of "is this weird" would more often be the people participating in the group itself. IE; if 98% of people were blue, and 2% were red, majority wise, blue would be voted the best and most normal way to be, simply because the population density of those voting. I would say being furry, according to that definition, is normal. We are a VAST majority, why, look at the sites, cons, etc. We are high in population. I think the need for validation is understandable, and wanting to be taken seriously and treated decently, fall under the whole 'we want acceptance' thing.

There might be a lot of us, but we are still but a drop in the bucket compared to the populace at large. You are correct that normality is purely a perspective thing, though no matter how you slice it, Furry is still an odd minority subgroup. Which is fine! There's honestly too much stock placed into status and social hierarchies and the like, so I find it better to just keep smiling and enjoying yourself. Treating others nicely tends to get nice treatment on our part. My anecdotal evidence being the supremely positive reactions I/friends get when we suit out in public, vs. the very small number of less-than-friendly comments (most of them coming from snarky teens/twenty-somethings who likely feel that way about everything and anything).

The general reaction in the news after the whole MFF incident was a supportive one as well. Even as the sexual aspects came up, but like I said before, that's a part of life in this fandom. Only at a furcon will a fetish booth have center stage in a dealer's den, or will folders of adult art be common place at artists' tables. It is the nature of the fandom, and the sooner everyone in said fandom comes to terms with this and adapts to find their own place in it, the better off we'll all be.

…"Open and accepting"? try going on the FA message boards.

HEYOO

Honestly, the people I've known who have been most open with and comfortable about their sexuality have mostly been furries; in my experience, it would be pretty unusual to go to a furry gathering where topics related to sex didn't come up, if perhaps only in jest. Then again, the most asexual people I've known have been furries as well, but they seem comfortable enough with the somewhat sexually charged atmosphere of the fandom; at least as far as those who come out to events are concerned.

Furries are a mixed bag, yes there are those that are accepting but there are also those that over react and get defensive, like "how to I come out to my parents" and "OMG that CSI episode was so offensive, everyone hates us so we should hate the yiffers and kill them". The furries who are sex positive most of the time don't tend to give a shit, they are without cares.

preach!! i couldn't agree more with you!!

agreed

i have never had sex in my fursuit before. i dated a girl once who wanted me to wear my suit while i humped her and she didnt have a suit herself but i said no because fuck that shit it's too damn hot in there for that crap. maybe if i had invested some dollars in a cooling vest or some fans for my head piece i mighta' said ok...maybe... but i dont have such things and it's like walking around while wearing a portable oven and adding sex to that just seems like a good way to die of heat stroke.

Yeah that's what gets me the most about fursuit sex; wouldn't the participants just die of heat stroke?

To be quite honest, I can't even imagine prolonged hugs betwixt fursuiters, let alone intimacy!
There's enough sweat during such as is without factoring in your four grand, faux fur mobile sauna.

Head only, with a fan in it.

WINK WINK.




But being serious this comic is silly.

Mmmm... If I were to engage in such, I'd probably aim for everything BUT the head, with face paint/facial prosthetics reminiscent of said character's head.
That'd certainly make for an intriguing cuddle session, but I'll be damned if it wouldn't necessitate Chicago winter levels of freon and air circulation!

But yeah, I do believe this was drawn for the topicality of it all rather than some deadpan critique of the fandom's status as 'delusional' or what not!

How does she wear glasses with the head on? That's the real question here.

i can answer that actually. it's not hard to do at first but as you start to sweat i find that the glasses while slide down the bridge of the nose more often and then you gotta be all awkward and partially break the magic (atleast in my case because i cant see very well without my glasses and i do wear them when i suit) by removing a hand paw to reach in and push them back up into place. sometimes it's easier to just not wear my glasses but then i have to have a handler to walk me around because my tear ducts i see through dont line up perfectly with my eyes and i can only see out of one of them and add to that i am super near sighted and i bump into everything constantly if i dont have my glasses on under my fursuit head.

I was just being silly. I wear glasses, but with my suit I go with contacts. More because my head is way too tight for glasses (my own fault) but the contact lenses give me less to worry about while walking around.

i never got fit for contacts myself. atm savin money for laser surgery to be done with the need for corrective eye wear altogether.

You are only allowed one fursuit per lifetime.

Fursuits more like no hahahahah.

But yeah lol at people denying sexual aspects of the fandom.

Like artists who swear up and down they have never drawn something even remotely suggestive.

pls no

Good use of the way they hold their heads to show their opinions.

"I get a kick out of the parts of the fandom that try to pretend that there are no sexual aspects to it."

Yeah basically xD

Oh my god, when my brother found out that I was a furry, he literally asked me:

"If you had one of those fursuit things, would you have sex in it? If you were in a room with a bunch of furries, would you be having some weird fursuit orgy? What if you had sex with a GUY?"

Ok, I might have paraphrased a bit, as this happened a long time ago, but honestly, I think most people who DO have suits, DON'T have sex in them. They can be a particularly hefty investment anyway, so why would you risk ruining it? (And most fursuits freak me out. Personally don't like them.)

I know there is a somewhat sexual aspect to furries, but I don't think most people would indulge in fursuit sexual debauchery. Potential to ruin an investment, and what would probably be uncomfortable and awkward sex make the idea... unlikely to be be acted on by most suit owning furries.

Well, what if you DID have sex with a guy?

Then I'd hope he'd give me a drink at least.

Instead of having a sense of humor, here's a bulleted list:

1) this comic is gay

2) im gay

3. Please watch me for more porn

d. I have opinions

5. FART

The crazy thing is they're both right.

How can that be!

i think the most offensive thing in this comic is the price inflation on fursuits these days!

People, you can get the parts for a costume at a Jo-Ann fabrics for way less than $4000. You're paying for the construction. It's like how an uncut chop steak is cheaper than its constituent parts. PEOPLE.

no no no you misread me


and i would not get the bulk of my fur from jo-anns craft fabrics (not sayin never because one time i found a nice dusty rose Seal fur but honestly you are not going to find that again)


i was talking about when i first entered the fandom a high quality CUSTOM character suit would cost you 1500$ as long as you didnt go too nuts, maybe 1800$ with some bells and whistles

now makers are asking 2000$ TO START on generic, pre-sized ,pre-designed auction suits (before something like that would have been 800$)

and my name isint people...its bouch c:

People have also gotten better at making fursuits, and people have also been more willing to pay for the blood, sweat, tears, and raw skill that goes into making these costumes. And - honestly - rightfully so! As someone who's tried making fursuits as a business, it is extremely physically taxing, not to mention emotionally if your customers are impatient/unreasonable, or even for just the amount of stupid questions people ask, or the amount of disrespect you receive for 1) making fursuits, 2) asking for ANY money for your hard work.

Like, if you want to give your time away for meager pay, or if you want to settle for a crap product because getting something good "isn't worth it", that's on you. But others can and are willing to pay for the labor of the artists who've earned their following, and those artists deserve the money they've earned.

hahaha, man i know all about the taxation of it trust me

but you are completely missing what i am putting down.

completely.

i've been hearing alot of reports about these new big hotshot names charging these huge premium prices, and their suits are falling apart after convention number two

unless they go and offer warrentys on their product (most will scoff you right off the face of the planet for even thinking that) you just dumped 3000$ on a rushedly put together and weak seamed product held together with hot glue and well wishes.


there is a HUGE difference between "deserved" money and actually earning that money with hard work and proffesional experiance.

idk about "new" but I've honestly heard nothing but good things about the majority of makers (that I personally know of) who charge these sorts of prices. I let clockwork slide because they specifically tell people their costumes are made to be visual art pieces and are fragile (in which case, it's your own damn fault if you break it). There's like, two makers off the top of my head who I've seen bad reviews on their things falling apart the second they arrived who charge those kinds of prices, but said reviews were years back and since I've been keeping tabs on them they'd been showing a trend towards improved construction.

Like... yeah, if that were happening, sure. But as far as I'm aware (and I'm a pretty big fursuit maker fanatic), it's not.

ah! my mistake then.it is always good to hear people improving!

really? clockwork stuff is frail? that is a shame

i always hold the aesthetics of a suit and the construction of a suit on parallels, you want BOTH to be as best as they can be and neither should sacrifice the other

wherever possible.

Yeah, they say their stuff is "wearable art pieces", meaning it's complex and intricate and fragile. I know most of their stuff is fine for casual wear, but no rough-housing. But any resin mask is liable to break if you drop it, hit it, etc!

Thanks, obeme.

It costs four-hundred-thousand dollars to fuck in this suit... for twelve seconds

That is one expensive therapist.

I'm the last person to deny that most furries see it first and foremost as an extension of their sexuality. I do however, hope to avoid alienating people that want to enjoy it without overt and open luridness. Those people are out there, aren't usually puritanical, and can be accommodated by the mainstream if my con experiences are any proof.

Granted I've never been to any of big, high-profile events.

It's definitely a "most", I'll agree with that!

I just don't get why furries have to fight about it. Basically every other community of geeks from gamers to anime watchers to civil war reenactment nerds all have people who engage it with erotic feelings. The prudent and the prurient are capable of existing collaterally and not getting in each others' faces, but for some reason furries need to throw the partial glove and turn it into a civil liberties debate.

Yeah, suits aren't even worth it in my mind, haha.

They tend to fall apart pretty easily after that first orgy.

Especially if you end up partnered with someone who's a freak. They be all, "Bro, open up that movable jaw so I can flood your insides with whiz."

i wonder how often the same idea comes up when buying a house.

I, for one, would never consider having sex in a house.

I heard if fursuits are to be even considered for sex, you should buy a polyester undersuit to wear so you don't get too hot.

You should've included the maker of said suit.

He's too busy Scrooge McDucking all that sweet fursuit cash!

This is amazing!
Love it! :)

Thanks!

That's pretty much the truth of it!

I never do anything sexual in my rubber gear! How dare you even suggest such a thing! >=3

I can't imagine how any act taking place in your rubber gear could be considered nonsexual!

I like this except very very few fursuits run 4k, haha, usually 2.5-3k max.
But still cute

Saw this at work and fuckin' died. xD

I have sex ONLY when I'm in my fursuit.

The alternative is unthinkable!

I've never known anyone who says there are _no_ sexual aspects to the fandom.
Just that _they_ (or their convention/website/cliche of friends) in particular are not interested in them.

...unless they hit you would some sort of semantic furry/furvert / trekkie/trekker non-sense... then yeah.

Of course there are sexual aspects of the random, but they are a minor element.

Haha naaaah.

They did surveys and everything, big enough, but not the whole fandom.

I don't doubt that they did!

Oh! XD whoops.

HAHA suckers! I made mine and only spent $200. Good thing my character wears cloths.

I think that's saved a lot of people a lot of fursuit money!

I did make him pretty green!

Fur suit sex has to be even more tiring, do people really have sex in them or is it a myth that people keep perpetuating.

Rush you are quite literally the best.

Baby I know it.

"Would you have sex wearing something for which you paid $4,000.00?" That would shut them up every time. I did some looking, and the price of a groom's tuxedo is from $300 to $800, so a fursuit is among the most expensive articles of clothing one can buy.

The groom's tuxedo is, as we know, used almost exclusively for sex nowadays.

what if you spent $4000 and you still can't get laid.

As the one non-furry here, I find this entertaining.

Ok are fur suits seriously 4,000 dollars?! If so I'm inclined to ask what the fuck do you make those things out of?!! Diamonds? Gold? Endangered animal fur?

Talent!

Personally I'm just impressed that people are able to get so immersed in their fantasies that they are actually able to wear those costumes and not feel completely silly.

The one on the right is a man, he just looks girly.

God damn it.

All furries are slutty, dirty sex crazed freaks...

...and the ones who deny it seriously make me LOL!!!!

That's technicolor_pie levels of bashing.

well how else is he supposed to pay her back for all those pics of him in dresses that he hates so much?

SNORT! Holy fuck I DIED XD <3 your humor holy shit THANK YOU for this!

Furries have sex, yep. Does that mean the fandom is only about sex like most of the world thinks? ...... hell no, thats even more so with the newer younger generations coming into the fandom, the young kids and teens, its less about sex for them then the older generations that kinda of first started the furry boom.

Pretty much any fandom has a sexual side, I think that's just a given.

I have literally no idea how you would have sex in one of these. Can anyone explain it to me? I'm curious.

Strategically placed holes!

Gotcha, I thought that might be the case.

Shit I wouldn't have sex in a $4000 bed, shits expensive, fuck on the floor in trashbags like normal people.

Alternatively, you could add "...............unless you wanted to?" to the first panel.

I do not care about people having sex in their suits. But if they are going to take the thing out in public, WASH THE DAMN THING FIRST!

hahaahah YUSH!

Can't tell if the one in the right is being sarcastic or serious.

You like yiff! So I know you just LOVE studded-leather fufsuited plushonecropaedourozoophillia

Hahaha you crack me up.

Seriously,a female fursuiter,hahaha.

More seriously though,your comic strips are devastatingly funny.

That is like asking someone if they used the dildo they bought from bad dragon. Yes.

a you would die form heat exhaustion,
b you would burn it off. of course if you see somethign sexual about it, thats your OWN glitch lol.

google prions

I've seen people with sexual feelings about burning!

beleave it or not artificial intillegence thinks the word fire is incredibly sexy, ever notice your computer get warm when its drawing red flames on your screen? as apposed to blue ones? yep facts!

I learn so much from you!

")

I can see it from both sides. On one hand it's kinky and exotic, on the other it's like wearing a winter coat over a carpet while doing it.

Its why you never know who is truely behind the mask, so keep the head on and let's rave!

"It costs four humdred thousand dollars to fuck in this suit..."

"For twelve seconds"