
I loved Fireball XL5 as a kid. Of course I knew it wasn't accurate -- even at the age of ten I knew more about space than the writers of this show, apparently. But it had the right "feel" somehow. Later Anderson puppet shows never had the same appeal for me, though. Thunderbirds was about as exciting as watching wrecking equipment or paramedics ... and those uniforms made the guys all look like gas station attendants. Anyway, times change and even the XL series spaceships could be expected to become obsolete. Here's one of my post-XL5 designs, the XS series. The trick was not to make it look too modern, and keep some of that charming post-WWII British clunkiness, while updating just a little. I have an XT series, as well -- with two rocket engines in pods beneath the wings.
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> dissing glorious Thunderbirds
NO! You villain.
lol, in all seriousness though, have you heard they're trying again with a TV show this time? (We can pretend the 2004 one just... never happened.) This one will be all CGIed. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3138604/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_Are_Go!
The effects are going to be done by Weta (the guys behind the Lord of the Rings CGI) so... it could be great.
NO! You villain.
lol, in all seriousness though, have you heard they're trying again with a TV show this time? (We can pretend the 2004 one just... never happened.) This one will be all CGIed. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3138604/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_Are_Go!
The effects are going to be done by Weta (the guys behind the Lord of the Rings CGI) so... it could be great.
I'm sure I would have loved XL5 if I had been introduced to it at a young age, but my dad only showed me Thunderbirds. He gave me his stockpile of toys he had collected from when he was just a boy. And watching the show... it was like my toys coming alive (complete with pyrotechnic displays).
I don't know whether there were many toys at the time... but they kept making them even after the TV show had been cancelled I think. I have one small Thunderbirds 1, made by Corgi. I also have a couple of cheap plastic Thunderbirds associated with that dreadful movie a few years ago.
Fireball XL-5 was the ONE Science Fiction television show in the 1960's for young people, sadly it showed in San Antonio on Saturday Mornings, VERY early, so I had to get up before dawn. I liked Supercar as well but Thunderbirds? That one always felt contrived, as if Andersson decided what happened at the end then wrote a script to reach that end from some standard beginning script. Of course my absolute favorite show was Rocky Jones, Space Ranger, a short lived filmed cliffhanger. After that was Men into Space, which the US Air Force worked on, then XL-5. I'm not really a fan of things like Star Trek, Babylon 5, Space 1999 (another Anderson badly contrived story) though Project UFO was, at times, interesting.
Having moved to San Antonio in 1961 I was now living to far from the nearest theater to go alone, as I had Saturday mornings at Keesler AFB, thus I missed most of the movies released in the 60's unless my parents were interested. Those were things like The Naked Jungle (army ants) and old Elvis the Pelvis (Elvis Presley) and of course damn near any WW2 movie that ever came out.
Very nice design, I might look at working on it, as soon as I finish Devils Paw.... if ever.
Reese
Member of The Solar Guard
Having moved to San Antonio in 1961 I was now living to far from the nearest theater to go alone, as I had Saturday mornings at Keesler AFB, thus I missed most of the movies released in the 60's unless my parents were interested. Those were things like The Naked Jungle (army ants) and old Elvis the Pelvis (Elvis Presley) and of course damn near any WW2 movie that ever came out.
Very nice design, I might look at working on it, as soon as I finish Devils Paw.... if ever.
Reese
Member of The Solar Guard
I remember Men Into Space, vaguely. I wanted to see it, but it was my bedtime... Never saw Rocky Jones ... at least not until two or three years ago, when I watched some DVD's I bought in a dollar store for dollar. Hum... a product of their time, I guess. Too primitive to watch for the fist time at age 60, 60 years after the were made.
I like Star Trek -- from TOS up to DS9, after that it gets problematic. Other TV SF has left me cold, though, for some reason.
I like Star Trek -- from TOS up to DS9, after that it gets problematic. Other TV SF has left me cold, though, for some reason.
I wouldn't mind the Stingray ... and I'd be able to see Supercar for the first time. I'd probably give a pass on T-Birds, though. I saw enough of those, long ago, and have a videotape of that cheap "movie" they made (by splicing together some episodes) to remind me of them.
'Fraid I was too young and ingenuous to really appreciate Fireball XL-5. Or Supercar, or Thunderbirds, or Stingray. By the time I'd grown a s**t-detector, Gerry Anderson was up to Joe 90, which I found kinda boring. If any station was airing Captain Scarlet, I missed it. It seemed to me back then that Space City's system was a more fuel efficient way to launch a spaceship than NASA's. I occasionally watch episodes on Youtube now; they must have treated those rocket carriages as expendables! (I liked the mid-air transfer system Anderson's team came up with for Project UFO, too. I always wondered how Skydiver re-attached to Sky One after a mission, though.)
I could have watched Joe 90 but, like you, found it kind of dull. By then, Anderson had begun his decay into overly-serious, bloated budget turkeys like UFO.
NASA's way into space was never the best way, just the quickest way the US could get men into space. As the space shuttle proved, we still don't have the "best" way perfected yet.
NASA's way into space was never the best way, just the quickest way the US could get men into space. As the space shuttle proved, we still don't have the "best" way perfected yet.
I like that it's not a flying bar of soap or something that's stepped out of a squeaky-clean iFad commercial. Today's art designers seem to forget that today's idea of futuristic as smooth, white, and personality-less is only a trend that will be superseded by other ideas of "futuristic" in the future, just as it has shoved aside older, no less feasible ideas of futuristic.
Yep. The XL5's universe also reflected the times. Although Fireball might spend weeks flying to another planet, other times it seemed to get there in a matter of hours, and in some episodes you can see the flash of explosions in other solar systems from the widow of Space City! Very strange concept of space-time. Also, the XL5 could apparently hover when convenient for the plot. So why the explosive take off and risky landings with rockets? Making sense of the show would be a challenge for Einstein, let alone a ten-year-old kid.
You might also need to know that the whole body is silver, not just the center section. The annular rings are red. The tail lettering would likely be white, outlined in black, but red outlined in black on the nose. Same on the wing surfaces. Swim suited femme on the nose is optional (and definitely not on the prototype).
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