! Dare we ask how much?

It ended up costing me about $330. The sad thing is, this was one of the cheaper copies. It's such a shame that the English version got such a limited release at the very tail end of the Saturn's life. It caused it to be a very rare find. I just wish Sega would do some re releases of some of their older games like Nintendo did with Earthbound.

Seam they are very cool games ^.=.^

Nice! I believe I owned them at some point. It was an alright game, I didn't really get into it though.

Saga is the only one I'm missing (not including the Game Gear title, since I believe that one was only released in Japan and looks like shit from what I've seen on Youtube anyway). From your mention of acquiring it in your description, I'm sure you can understand why.

I only just recently picked up Orta though, and am yet to play it. I've kind of been waiting on an opportunity with a friend who says he's had the game for years, but never got around to actually ever playing it. I've been wanting to try arranging a get together (online with voice chat over Skype) where we both play the game for the first time simultaneously. Naturally our play throughs wouldn't be in perfect sync, especially if we get to a boss and one beats it faster, but I still think it would be a neat thing to try. Whether or not that works out, I am looking forward to playing it eventually. I did read the instruction manual, and from that it sounds like Orta improved on Zwei just as dramatically Zwei improved on the original.