*Salutes* Still love traditional.

It's all a matter of taste and technique. I prefer using whatever tools are available--I have an electric guitar that I warp the snork out of using electromechanical and/or digital effects, or I compose music by playing a keyboard through digital synths. I also like using realistic-sounding samples for things like acoustic drums to get the most natural feel out of something I can't physically do.

*chuckles* Just keep in mind this was in no way an attack at people who use or favor non-traditional methods. I'm fine with them, I like the art, the music is good, and I'll even use them to my advantage now and then. It's just a bit of a thumbs up to those who prefer traditonal art, just 'cause I felt like it x3

Heh...if I could play instruments better, I would. ;P

*chuckles* It takes a lot of practice, that's all ;P

I'm fiddling with digital in a pitiful attempt to draw attention to my page so people will notice my traditional art.

*pets her Prismacolors lovingly*

Your art all looks pretty good to me, trad. or otherwise :P

Wow, really? Thanks! 0//////////////0

I still do traditional... I just need to practice with digital more... but I have a few pieces that aren't digital

*Mock salute* You know I do real instruments!

You do instruments!? Eeeew, that's too kinky for me!

...sorry. Couldn't resist. xD

...Bad Ru! Bad! X3

Wow...the things people walk into... Beautiful response...

I try, haha. x3 Thanks ;P

traditional all the way bro , keep up the awesome artwork ^ ^ Ru

When it comes to art I respect both equally really, though tend to get impressed by traditional more. But as far as music goes, amen to that. Stupid drum machines...

I do all my music with live instruments! :3

I noticed that actually- I've gone back to your page several times to see if you've uploaded anything new. I really liked your mario medley thingy. That was awesome. You should put up a few more things done with real instruments... 'cause it's awesome. xD

Thanks! I'm working on a request right now.. Should have it done some time soon (I think.) I have some older stuff I should probably put up, too. Maybe I'll put one up now.

cute <3

Hmmm, the question however, especially with music, is how does one discern electronic music produced through software means versus those produced with hardware means? Not everyone can afford the synthesizers (aka keyboards as some refer to them o_O) that have a "genuine" analogue sound to them... Hell, some of the synths I'm looking at (Korg MicroKORG + Micro-X, as well as the Access Virus TI (a $3,500 CAD synth in 61key keyboard format, $2,200 CAD or so as just a desktop/rackmount unit) sound quite digital.

I will definitely admit that the way of the hardware electronic producer has pretty much gone the way of the dodo, but such is primarily due to the simple fact that for the cost of the synth I want as my main (Virus TI Keyboard) I could get a fully functioning software synthesizer setup with both Reason and Reakor, MIDI control keyboard, and have enough for a brand spanking new computer. Software synthesizer setups also have the beautiful thing called portability, something hardware very much so is lacking in... A reasonably powerful laptop, some midi controllers, and a few programs (with custom tuned/created virtual instruments) is all one needs to make one's studio fully portable... As well, this portability makes things easier for those lacking in space, or who wish to add onto a current hardware setup (say, turntables).

I'd personally prefer to go all out hardware, however such would require more money than I possess, as well as more space than one can give to that much hardware... However, on the flip side of things, I will still use some hardware with things, however the bulk of things will definitely be with software as it is portable (and therefore easily applicable to live pa situations, also commonly referred to as "live production")

Here's how I, personally define it- If you actually play a guitar, instead of using something to make it sound like a guitar, then that's traditionally. If you actually play a saxaphone, instead of somehow creating the sound with something else... traditionally. To me, you have to play the actual instrument... if it's done any other way, it's not traditionally done. But that's just me.

*nods* Such I can understand as I grew up around classical instruments (flute, timpani, and oboe to be specific... if one doesn't go into the basic instruments one is "forced" to play in elementary school called the recorder, if you can even call that an instrument :P), so I'm quite curious... What about programs like Guitar Rig 3, which require a physical instrument for the sound, but the amplifier itself is virtual? ( http://www.native-instruments.com/i.....?id=guitarrig3 ).

And, to extrapolate from what you've said, would hardware "based" keyboards (say a Virus, which is primarily hardware but adds in the functionality and ease of configuration that software can provide (hence why the "TI", for totally integrated) http://access-music.de/events/11-20....._keyboard.php4 ) or full on hardware keyboards (example: Nord Lead 2 - http://www.vintagesynth.com/clavia/nord2.shtml ), or would those be classified under the same territory as virtual synthesizers?

Truth be told, I've no idea how to play a guitar, it's one of the few things that puzzles the living hell out of me, which I find hilarious because the Oboe was "easy" to learn and get damn good sounds out of...

Well, in my head, as long as you're playing the actual instrument you're making the sounds of, you're doing it the old fashioned way. What effects you put it through after that don't matter- people have been changing sounds with amps and pedals for ages. But they're still playing the guitar. So for Guitar Rig, I'd count it as traditionally.

As for keyboards, honestly, unless you're playing the piano sound with it, if you're doing anything else at all, it's pretty much not traditional. Even if it is it's still sorta not, but since that difference is sorta like the difference between an acoustic guitar and an electric, I still call a keyboard player a traditional artist, But if it's being used to make a whole song using many sounds, all on keyboard, then no, it's not traditional. All depends on how it's done.

But again, this is just how i see it. Not trying to force my views on anyone x3

Guitar does seem to be a bit of a tricky instrument. I had no trouble learning sax to a fairly respectable agree (You'd never guess hearing the crap I post up here, but I don't suck, honest! xD) but I've had troubles getting very far in guitar. Maybe my fingers are too slow or something xD

No worries, i don't see it as forcing your opinion at all - reason I keep asking is I'm curious about other people's views on things what with being a little more of a non-traditional musical "artist" (if I can call myself that, nobody's seen anything I've done except for the one time I borrowed a friend's studio and made the sound of a cat screaming and rowling with one hell of a vibrato)... Given my preference for electronic music (especially the darker styles like industrial, DnB, and hardstyle) it is pretty much a given that the style of music I'd be hard pressed to be classified (under most definitions) as traditional given that most see it as using computers (hell, even VNV nation walked on with THREE MacBook Pros, I kid you not - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHrM.....eature=related ... I took that video on Silent's camera, it sure came out better than the CombiChrist videos a month earlier ^_^ You have to look somewhat closely but both keybardists are using a MacBook Pro, as is the drummer with his virutal kit... Better vid here, they had $30k of equipment with them and also wasn't in the middle of the pit.. ~_^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVh3VSmreho )

Hmmm, if I were to go with a strict full on piano sound I'd probably find a way to shoehorn a baby grand into my condo (or just steal the parental one as they aren't using that 1960s upright anymore)...

I am curious though, what about electronic prroducers who take something like Pendulum's Slam ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqh9N-Mw5E ) and then make it live? ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVI45ZDDkk ) I wish I cuold find the old video from two years ago but it is no longer on YouTube *pouts* Their older videos were just so much better....... Actually, fuck slam, Blood Sugar I can find decent videos of... -> CD Version ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b0J8cw8ZWE ), live version ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG11CyGszOA ).. Feel free to skip to the 1:50 mark in the live version, no music before that..

Yeah, Guitar is weird in the regards that it's not like any other instruments I've played in the past (cello is another one) it's baffling as can be, but for what i want to add into my studio produced music I've no choice but to learn it... ^_^

Well, I was too lazy to click all of those links, but I did check out a bit of the last one. I'd simply call that a mix. The guitarists and vocalists are actually playing their instruments, with digital sounds on top of it. That's all. That's what I'd call it. That's pretty much how I classify things in general- if it's a machine or a synth of some sort, it's digital. If it's the actual instrument, then it's not. Put them together and you have a whole new sound! x3

Makes sense... :) The tl:dv version is essentially that they faithfully recreated a studio created fully electronic song with live instruments (and a keyboard or two, because some things you just can't do on a guitar or drums)... The links to VNV Nation (first few) were probably my own ego stroking... A lot of people think VNV Nation uses actual hardware when in fact they're using software, at least for live performances (then again, when you travel halfway around the world, a laptop is a hell of a lot easier to bring across the ocean)...

One question does come to mind however, what about the use of synthesizers back in the 70s and 80s music when Mini-Moogs (and ARP2600's) were the major thing for adding in even more to their sounds?

Digital sound is digital sound man x3 If I remember, a moog is a type of synthesizer, which defines it instantly. It's synthesizing a sound, ergo, digital. But again, it's more of an isntrument to instrument thing. If you have a full band of classic instruments and toss a single moog into it I wouldn't define the whole song as electronic now, especially since in a situation like that you pretty much still have to be playing something.

For the most part I was thinking of people who do music entirely on the computer without picking up or playing any kind of instrument at all.

if I remember correctly, Moog has always had "analogue" synths, well, at least up until he died anyways, I know some of the new ones are very much so "virtual analogue", which means digital with analogue replication (in other words, creating the same sounds without all the nasty side effects of desynch and finickyness that tends to plague the older synths), however, if one were to look at them in non-synth terms, then by all means, yes, even the 35-40 year old synths would be quite digital - i don't remember seeing pianos with electrical wiring and circuit boards in them... ^_^

Ahh, yeah, I'm a bit of a cynic against those kinds of people (the ones who just purchase software and plug something out, with or without following "traditional" rules of composing) as I'd much rather prefer having actual instruments in hand (whether classical/traditional or electronic) because of just how much more hands on they are. Unfortunately for me, there's a reason why it's called electronic music in the first place, and naturally the tedancy for shoestring budgets is definitely the software route (a legit version of Reason or Reaktor is what, $450 or so, tops?).. MIDI controllers (be they keyboards, or fader/pot boards) don't quite have the same feel (at least in the low end, the $800-1000 61 and above key controllers are beautiful!), and they aren't as plug and play friendly as say a guitar can be... Last I checked, you plug a guitar into the amp, turn on amp, choose the sound you want, and jam away - good luck doing that with software as after you get the controller recognized, you spend an hour fiddling away with all the controls to get it set up.

I've also noticed in the furry fandom that strictly software producers/composers tend to be attracted to FL Studio *shudders* like moths to a flame, churn out something quick, and then go "look at me!" There are quite a few who produce beautiful music though, and half the programs I'm looking at I wouldn't have even contemplated them if it wasn't for them (Ravity comes to mind)...

I will admit though, when it comes to art (like drawn), if I had a choice I'd prefer digital... An old roomate of mine had a Cintiq tablet that i borrowed off of him, had some fun mucking about with that, however, unlike music, digital isn't exactly as portable as a sketchpad and two pencils is, especially when your laptop dies within an hour of being turned on... ^_^

If it needs to be plugged into a power outlet, in my mind, it's digital. xD I know what you're thinkig- what about electric guitars? But technically, you don't plug the guitar itself into a power outlet, just the amplifier. The instrument itself is still just an instrument :P

I'm gonna be honest- I didn't understand most of that. I've never been into the whole software hardware aspects of music. So far, i've played trumpet, bass, and sax. That's the hardware I know. xD So everything you said there kinda went right over my head. I'll just take your word for it. xD

In the long run, I don't care what people use to make music, as long as the music is good... however, traditional methods- picking up the actual instruments and recording them that way- will always be in favor for me. Be it art, or music. Just 'cause there's something special about it. x3

Ahhh, such indeed is a very good and valid point... Besides, whyever on earth should we be splitting hairs about which synth is analogue and which is digital when we can leave that up to the electro-heads :P As for electrics, I wouldn't even contemplate calling them digital as even unplugged from an amplifier one can still get sound out of it... it's not the best sound and is normally fairly hollow compared to an acoustic guitar, but still. ^_^

No worries, a lot of us electronic music guys spout gibberish in some foreign technical language that only sounds similar to English (something I'd pull from Rifts and call it "TechnoBabble"). In short, a MIDI controller is just something that plugs into the computer and you can control various aspects of the sounds with that controller (or, in other words, think knob-twisting). Truth be told, some of the synths I've played with (yup, Virus TI, my dream synth) baffle the living daylights out of me, what with having twenty some buttons, six million knobs, and then 61 keys to control it all, and that's even before getting into all the various memories the blasted thing has... dammit, I said simple but I just complicated the hell out of it again, lol

Mmm, trumpet... The first instrument I picked up was one, but my band teacher (who was a conductor of a symphony oddly enough) made ever student play a trumpet for two weeks and then a clarinet in order for them to help decide whether to go with woodwinds or brass (percussion was expressively forbidden to junior students (aka grade 7/12, first year of junior high). Fun instrument to play, but was nowhere near as fun as a flute ^_^ I'm kind of thankful that I didn't go with the piccolo though, I became a bit too proficient at hitting really high notes on that flute... i really need to get me an oboe again though, there's nothing out there that can replicate that beautiful yet eerie sound of an oboe...

*nods* Despite being more inclined towards the more digital forms of music, I would definitely have to agree that I'd prefer to stick with the more traditional aspects of music, as well as traditional mediums for artwork as well (even if I'm not all that good at drawing, mainly due to lack of practice)... And I'll definitely have to agree that no matter how it's made, so long as it sounds good (and isn't overplayed) then to each their own ^_^

Trumpet was the first thing I ever played as well. However I eventually passed it off for sax because it hurt my face =/ My teeth are sorta messed up so it put undue pressures in places and was just really painful. I was also unreliable- some days I would be a freakin' awesome trumpet player, and other days, I could hardly hit the high notes at all. Very frustrating.

So I switched to sax, which I have much greater control of. I've always wanted to try oboe.. it looked neat, and we had one in school, but it was broken the whole six years I was there, so i never go to try it. I do like the sound though. I wanted to learn flute, but I can't seem to get much sound out of it at all. I think I was meant for the sax x3 It seems to be what I picked up the fastest.

Ah, cool cool, out of curiosity, what kind of sax? ^_^

As for the flute... yeah, it isn't as easy as it looks...

I own an alto sax, but I've played all of the big four. I enjoy them all, but alto and bari are my favs I think :P Soprano is painful and I dunno why, but tenor just doesn't appeal to me as much. They're all fun though x3

Traditional is good, its where everyone starts. Some of our personalities though just demand to have technology injected into everything XD like myself ^^;; i still love your sketch for me though ^___^

All my art is drawn using pencil/ink. Then I either digitally color (usually when I'm putting a background on it or when I need colors I dont have in pencil) or use coloured pencils :)

For me, personally, I don't have the money needed to keep buying supplies so I can do traditional art. I sketch on paper then scan it in and screw it up with PaintShop Pro. :/

I love both traditional and digital art. I do have a little more respect for those who do awesome work tradtionally, thinking how much harder it is not having a simple Undo button or random effect that probably nobody ever uses except to make that one picture just to try it out then determine that's the dumbest effect ever... Just seems like more effort goes into traditional artwork. For that, I appluad all who can still afford to do tradtional work.

Traditional doesn't really have to be all that expensive... Sure, I spent a fair amount on a good set of pencils- about 120 bucks- but it's lasted me three years now. That one set of pencils, no replacements. That's 40 bucks a year, and they're still going strong. And I draw on standard paper, that's what, a dollar for 500 pieces? xD That's not much. And that's it, really. Between a tablet and a good version of photoshop you're already running well over a thousand dollars, maybe two ,and I know people who've spent 500 bucks on a tablet to have it break in a few months and have to get another.

Really I say one isn't really any more expensive than the other, but that's just me. :P

A tablet might make a difference in how bad I screw up my sketches... But the pogram I use has been with me for, I could be lying, 8 years. I was thinking about saving money to buy a tablet PC and Adobe Illistrator, that's like $2,500 to $3,000. Why the whole damn PC and not just a tablet? Well, my tower is some 6 years ago and really slow and I'm sadly too cheap to go buy a disk so I can reformat it. Just getting a whole new thing and being mobile seems more 21st century.

Either you have a million pencils, or they are like 5 feet long, or you don't color alot. I know people who burn through pencils and markers faster than they can eat one of my buttermilk pies. Exaggerating a little but not much. Could just be they don't know what they're doing.

Take a run through my gallery bud, I colour all the time ;P And I don't have a million pencils, I only have the 120 set that I got. That's it. And like I said, no replacements yet. I'd be lying if I said some weren't getting smallish- I might have to spend a whole ten dollars to get a few new pencils soon xD But I don't really count that as being all that much either, hehe.

I guess it all depends on how people want their pictures to look, but I've had absolutely no trouble getting my pencils to last for a very long time, and I try to colour most of my pictures. I even do backgrounds now and then, which used to be entirely done in pencil.

I guess I have a liking towards traditional drawing mainly cause I like to watch.

I like to sit next to or across from someone who's working on a project and just watch their creativity flow free. Really help kill time when I got nothing better to do. Granted, some things you can do with technology that make people envious and wish they could do in real life. but I kind of just have this.... well.... natural draw to someone who does it the old fashioned way.

It's always just impressed me a little bit more. Great digital art is great, but great traditional art is -wow-. xD And it's neat to see how the process is done and stuff.

I dunno. In the long run I guess I just like it more. xD

Whooo! I agree! Sexy!

*ahem* I mean. YES! Go all you traditional artists and musicians! I can pat myself on the back with the music bit. I love playing piano, and I would like to pick the trumpet up again. I miss playin it. =3

But yes... sexy bottomlessness. >.>

I agree. Traditional art/music/most things are a slowly disappearing thing in today's world. Admitted I like techno music, its always SO much better when used with classical instruments. And its oh so hard to find quality artists that can work with a colored pencil and make good looking art. Hat's off to you hun. ^.~

Put some damn pants on man! Whats wrong with you!!! :giggles: Nah, leave em off. Remove that shirt too. ^^

digital seems so hard to do... but I must say it's easier when it's about to shade and fix effects on photshop. I do prefer traditional! I am exellent with pencil shading and colouring.
oh may I ask? Can I do a drawing like this? I mean the subject of honor the traditional artists? It's not gonna be a re-do but I want to do it in my own version =) I will say that I got the inspiration form you, but only from your premission of course <3

*nods* You can indeed do a similar picture if you wish. I don't mind at all :3

yay! *does a little dance*

That's a big pencil (sorry if someone has already said that X3)

But yeah, I understand that some people opt for digital colouring since it can be quicker and mistakes can be undone easily. I don't think traditional art is going to die out any time soon but it would be nice to see more of it around

in me eyes everyone is good in one than others

Traditional rules... Love my pencils and things ^^

All I can DO is traditional <3 I don't trust doing it any other way :D

Hehe, I am semi traditional I guess you can say X3 Because frankly I can't color with colored pencils worth shit, I use P&P most of the time. I'm probly gonna try using colored pencils again, I just need to figure out how to draw right with them.

To be completely honest, I've always sort of considered the whole picture a digital artist if it's coloured digitially, because that's what most digital artists do anyway- draw on paper, scan it in, then ink it and colour it digitally. But again that's just me, I'm not tryin' to fight your definition x3

Hehe, Still it is started as traditional so it's not completely dead, If everyone did everything on a computer then it would be dead X3 So long as people keep sketching on P&P traditional will still be here. And it's just matters of opinions

Well, a lot of furs seem to be a fan of techno and such, which is pretty much always electronic, which might explain the high amount of it. I personally -hate- techno so I have no reason to ever use it. All the kinds of music I like are kinds that sound like shit with fake instruments... not that me doing it with real instruments sounds very good yet, but that's 'cause you've actually got to learn how to make a good sound doing things traditionally, it doesn't just happen right away *coughs* >.>

hey dude this is wonderful. also catch me on msn. lets talk a little

I'm on MSN all the time, you know you can talk to me anytime you want :P

i bes traditional!!! -waves paws wildly-

yea-ahh! May Traditional never die!

now blending the two....

Depends on how it's done. x3 Like I said somewhere earlier, just doing the linework on paper, scanning it, and colouring it digitally, I don't count that as being a mix, I just call that digital. Now, if they take a fully traditional piece and add in a few little effects digitally, that's a neat blend, I can see working.

I still prefer purely trad. pictures though :P

Was referring more to music in that regard, but a full traditional base with shading, then coloring partially traditional and enhancing the color with digital and gradients would be neat too.

i prefer full trad. pictures as well.

Traditional beats the pants off of anything else. xD

(And I'm too poor for a tablet or synthesizer. = P)

Seriously, though I like the concept and the message here. And it doesn't hurt that it's really well drawn and colored, either. All in all, yay for Ru. And every other traditional artist. xD

...wut? Really well drawn and coloured? Dude, I scribbled this down in no time and it looks like garbage xD It's just a doodle... it far from looks good, haha. Thanks though! xD

Fine, then, it's a piece of crap and you should be embarrassed to have even put pencil to paper on it.

That better? x3

as much as I love traditional art there really isn't any place for it in my industry unless you're a concept artist. Which of course, I'm not...-_- So in my defense I didn't switch over by choice, but out of neccessity to keep up with my line of.

I do miss traditional though. )=

Well like I said, I don't consider digital artists any less or an artist, and the art is still art, and it's still very pretty and awesome. It's just a "thing". I can't even explain it. x3 But I think no less of you, nor your work, for having to switch over *patpat* You're still awesome. xD

Yeah, I know what you mean. I personally feel that traditional works take a helluva lot more time, effort, knowledge and skill to master. Anyone can open up photoshop and make a mastrpiece using the burn and dodge tools. xD But traditional work...man. There's a certain charm and alure to it that makes it visually superior to digital art.

Yeah. Pretty much. I mean, I see a masterpiece done digitally and it's like... oh yeah, that's pretty cool. See the same thing done traditionally and it's like.. woah. How the hell they do that? xD It just always impresses me so much more. I'd kill even just to have the undo button, seriously. That would make my life so much easier. xD But no... I'm determined to get good at traditional methods no matter how long it takes me! *shakes fist*

oh god, you would not believe how many times I try to hit ctrl+z on my sketchpad when I'm doing prep art. xD It's pathetic...

I agree with you completely. *nods*

SALUT!

I'm not sure its so sure its dying out and becoming rare as much as the digital stuff is just becoming more prevalent. i know a lot of people that do digital do so simply because they lack a scanner/camera for the traditional to be posted. however i do agree that it is a sight for sore eyes and i love to see traditional work and wish there was more of it out there. knowing both mediums well though, i can vouch that digital also takes a lot of "hand's on" work...though it doesnt often reveal as much of the work as does the traditional stuff.

i do like the thought put into the shirt

and dont you look all cute, especially bottomless...sexy indeed *purrs*

I'm pretty sure a scanner is a lot cheaper than a tablet and drawing software in most cases though xD But eh, I'm not dissing it, just celebrating those two stick to purely traditional methods. And I wasn't saying digital takes any less work, I'm sure it takes plenty, but like I said, they still have plenty of tools to make things easier that traditionalists don't. Undo, being the biggest example. I dare you to find me a digital artist who never uses undo xD

Thanks :P

yes the undo button is quite handy...but what do you think an eraser is?

well most people use their mouse actually, though i did get a really nice tablet for cheap, just gotta look in the right spot. as for the software...most people just bootleg it...or use freeware versions.

but alas, this argument will never end, so let us rest our cases here as we agree that both are equally difficult in their own right.

An eraser isn't at all the same as undo, because it can't take any mark away, can't make anything no matter how dark to back to white, and undo doesn't damage the paper if overdone. Undo can fix anything, in colour, ink or otherwise. Erasers can't. :P

an eraser has almost always worked for me as an undo button, maybe its just the way i draw. or that i dont use colors much. but oh well. its just part of the medium.

It works okayish for pencil, as long as you're not pushing hard, or shading very dark xD But for ink, coloured pencil, paint, etc, they don't work so good... you gotta admit that much :P

i did...though i probably should have mentioned that when I draw its always in pencils XP

Trad art ftw <3

he old fashioned way- with instruments
this cracked me up XD
yay for trditional and pantless things hugging pencils

Oh hell yes... x3 I really do love this, and I agree with you. Not that theres anything wrong with digital art....Im guilty of planning on getting myself a tablet for Christmas...but I will always prefer traditional. I love experimenting with different mediums, different kinds of paper, different strokes and styles...and some of that is lost when you transcribe everything onto a screen.

*nodnod* I agree, digital art is fine, I just think traditional is a bit more special somehow. xD There's nothing to help you or aid you in any way, just your hands, your tools and your paper. It's neat. :P And I personally think much more enjoyable than digital, especially since you're done you actually have something in your hands. xD

Yeah.... *looks around my room at all the originals up on my wall* Its definately a nice feeling. ^^

heh im too retarted to figure owt how ta do it on seh compooter. 8/

Woot for traditional arts!!

keewwll!!! 8'D

OMG....you have no pants! :o

And yeah, traditional is pretty awesome. I tried digital...but I really suck at it XD

Though it still looks really good!

'cause I'm teh sex in no pants. Everyone knows that 83

Woo, a lot of comments on this one, Ru!

Well, you know my stance. I luuuuuuurve traditional media. The majority of art I've purchased is traditional, and when I can I prefer traditional media for my commissions.

Hey, I toss money at you, don't I?

((BTW, I'm getting an extra 90 bucks I wasn't expecting to see every again. Want some of it in trade?))

Huh? What do you mean in trade?

Art, hon =P

So you mean a commission then. xD

Yup. n.n

You drew my last RPG character, and now that a new campaign is going to start, I'd want to get you to draw the new character =D

Heheh. Unfortunately, I'm probably not going to be able to for some time. I want to finish the commissions I have now, take a short break, then come december I'll have to start on a giant, potentially up to 100 people, group commission. Which will probably take about a month. So I'm busy probably until january ^^;

Nuuuu @.@;;;

I agree that too many musicians are putting too much focus on synthetic instruments. So much so that they begin to eliminate real instruments. Take my genera, for instance. Guitar is THE essential ingredient in metal, and when the guitar is replaced with something artificial, IMO it can no longer be called metal.

I'm not saying synth instruments can't be used in metal, as they're great as a supporting role (i.e. a keyboard), bands like Children of Bodom and Rammstien use them all the time. However, it is impossible to replicate the beautiful sound and versatility of an electric guitar.

Not much of a fan of rock, but I certainly agree with you x3 If I'm gonna hear rock, I want the guitars to at least be real, haha. Digital, synthetic rock is just an annoying and kinda sad sound. xD

I've been delving back into traditional, mainly because my teachers only want that, but I'm really lving my pencils again :3

Personally, as much as I love my (and others) digital work, I'm always impressed by traditional. Digital is so easy to fix errors, a simple ctrl-z and you can re-ink a line. Traditional work has to be right the first time, since the eraser is rarely perfect and you just can't erase ink XD

So yeah, I'll join that solute ^^ one day I may be good enough with traditional stuff to actually bother posting any of it (since I only seem to do everything up to inking on paper these days)

I play Acoustic Guitar, Electric Guitar, Violin, Clarinet and some what know how to play a cello but because of my Carpel tunnel i have had to give up playing the Violin Cello and Clarinet and here soon if I am not careful i will have to stop playing the guitars as well x.x which sucks because i love playing all of those. As well as doing one pic of traditional art kills my hand and wrist where I'm out for a weeks time x.x but I still love the traditional even if it does hurt to do it :P I am still learning how to play the Guitars, and though i am making good progress, its hard to retain it if you cant keep at it every day, which sucks. but i love the pic and i agree ^.^

Nothing I add here will be anything new to what everyone else is writing, so I guess just... thanks for the salute!
Though I suppose I'm not good enough to really accept it, I guess, but I'm learning.
And staying traditional.
In my opinion, its just that much more of a personal feel.

Whenever I draw digital it feels... cold, detached. I dislike drawing that way.
I live my art.
Anyhow, enough rambling!

- Meyuu

*chuckles* If you're drawing traditionally, and sticking to it despite the challenges and obstacles, then this salute is for you. In fact, it's specifically for people like you. :P And besides, you're actually pretty good, so don't be so hard on yerself. :3

Not so much as sticking to traditional as a priciple... just because I haven't got the foggiest idea on how to get a handle on the pen tool! o.O

... I'm joking! ... kinda!

But yay, thanks for the encouragement, but I know I have a loooong ways to go yet. I'll just practice hard and maybe one day become good enough to make others happy with gift-art. ^^

- Meyuu

I've been doing more traditional lately because I need to be using this stock of real media I have built up (I originally only did traditional for art made to sell, but since I cant' sell art anymore, I need another reason to use it), and sitting at the computer to work in digital hurts my back.

And suddenly... I feel like drawing...
Now where the fuck did I put my pencil! GOD!