Ooh, that is one hot car.

I think I'm in love.

Here's something you might like then,
this car teaching a Shelby Mustang how it's done:
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*drools*

My ol' Fiat is spinning in its rusty grave.

Wow, very cool. What is it?

Roush Stage 3.

right, Fara?

Of course.

Cool. I know nothin' about cars, lol.

But you can appreciate good artwork.

...so fuck knows why you watch me.

Er, 'cause you have good artwork. And yer an alright dude.

Thanks.

Yer welcome, bro.

and to quote Carroll Shelby "These horsepower wars are bullshit."(I disagree, but, srsly, he said that)

i dunno. those horsepower wars gave us the 300 letter series (55-65)

I realize now that i got the quote wrong. but I think high-horsepower cars are good. and same thing with lower horsepower cars.
actual quote:" this horsepower race is a bunch of b---s---, but you have to keep up with the Germans."

that sounds about right The japanese are brilliant at getting more horsepower out of smaller engines. A friend of mine had a Pontiac sunfire with a 2 litre fourbanger (guessing Durotec or whatnot) that made less horsepower than my Civic's 1.8 litre R-series. I just always thought that was funny.

High horsepower is nice and all, but then you see the occasional bozos running around with "high" horsepower and almost no torque, going on about how great their car is because of all the HP it has. (Not going to point fingers, but I'm sure you've seen the type a few times... Usually sporting neons and huge exhaust tips on small exhaust pipes...) What fun is horsepower without some good torque to back it up?

you make a point. but if all you want is torque, you just have a diesel.

For Japanese cars, high horsepower and low torque is ideal. A lot of torque means that the car needs a stronger engine, thicker con rods, a chunkier crank, heavier duty clutch and gearbox, bigger driveshaft, a heavier stronger differential, heavier driveshafts, etc. As well as all the extra metal in the frame to deal with all the extra weight and power from the heavier setup. Before you know it, you have a big heavy muscle car.
Low torque means that the car can be kept very lightweight, with the focus of the chassis on handling rather than just carrying the weight of itself. Couple that with a high-revving and moderately high power output engine, usually with only four cylinders, and you have a very agile and capable car. The bast car makers in the world do this to differing degrees of moderation. Lotus, for example, specialise in low-torque, lightweight, high-performance cars. BMW do much the same with their M3 cars. The problem with the "neons and huge exhaust tips" boyz for me is that they drive front-wheel-drive rubbish...

thats fantastic :o nicely done.

Thank you.

Looks very good.

Cheers

Nice Mustang. The top one has more detail than the bottom one. Even tho I think they are one in the same with 2 slightly different views.

The top one was done by a designer, the lower one was done by an artist...
or maybe it's the other way round?