
This was a work I felt an extreme need to see in the furry community.
I searched on FA to see if I could locate any image that dealt with the black lives matter movement and combating racism. Something I could fave. Much to my surprise there was not a singe one in my search result. :( It was then that I knew I had to make this drawing.
I want to make a statement that i feel that if the furry community is to be a truly all accepting and tight-knit subculture, then we should also for the sake of our fellow minority furs and the world around us, stand in solidarity with loving support and understanding for those persecuted by contemporary american society.
This may not be what the furry community is right now, but it is what I had thought it would be when I was young and would like to see it be. A socially liberal group where everyone is free to express themselves and not face persecution for their essential identity.
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So in this picture I incorporated anthros who were of African origin. A lion, a black panther leopard, a jackal, a hyena (my very own Sherako :) ), and the giant elephant. They represent to me the furry equivalent of a person of African descent. My own squirrel fursona Rufe is there too participating as an ally, in the back of the group (allys should never place themselves as leaders of the group). I tried my best to draw characters that were evocative of African American culture as best I could with a level of respect, trying to avoid stereotypes while not pushing the idea of cultural integration (I.E. I tried to draw them as they really are). Thats a big area when it comes to racism in America. People can say and believe that they are not racist simply by claiming they dont look at skin color. But the root of racism today lies most heavily in negative perceptions of minority culture.
To give an example of the negative perceptions and archetypes that generate racism, I have provided a link to the video of the death of John Crawford III who was killed by police in a Walmart because they thoguht the toy gun he had picked up in the store was in fact a real assault weapon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZ-teZsZmo
In this video John Crawford III, a black male, picks up a toy rifle from the shelves at the walmart and walks around carrying the toy while talking on his cellphone. The security staff and customers assume it is a real weapon and the police are called, whom enter the store in combat mode and then fire upon John as soon as they see him, killing him. In the video you can hear the 911 caller claim he is 'arming' the gun and 'pointing it around'. When in fact again, this was a toy and a product from the store. Ask yourselves, why did the caller claim he was armed and arming himself? It is because the caller saw a black male with what appeared to be a weapon and instantly assumed that John was planning real violence.
I am sure the caller would not describe themselves as racist. But that is not enough. For racism is really a subconscious learned behavior that occurs in a flash of a moment. He saw this image of a young black man talking on his phone with a toy gun and immediately gave into his instinctive behavior, his internal learned racism: prejudice. It also must be asked why the police fired upon him before he even was aware of them, he did not even raise his toy gun at them. The end result is this man died because of a mistaken prejudice assumption about African-American culture.
No charges were filed against the police in the death despite vocal calls for justice from the man's family.
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Stereotypes do not apply across the board. We should all know that as furries and a sexually diverse community. It is unfair to hold someone to these instinctive learned stereotype behaviors. For those in the African-American community, it can have dire consequences.
If you are against racism, it is not enough to just simply say to others and yourself that you do not judge people by skin color. You need to combat the subconscious instinct for snap prejudice assumptions. That takes work. It takes self-policing. It takes questioning your thought patterns and being aware of what goes into how you make quick decisions. Because very few people can really claim to be free of racism and prejudice. It is not a simple statement of intent. It is a real metal exercise and behavioral training. But this is what you should do if you truly believe everyone should be given an equal chance.
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I hope that this drawing does inspire some, and amuse a few. :) I had a really great time drawing these characters, and I really loved being able to revive my very old hyena char Sherako for this pic :) hes such the sensual beast :3 the dirty rebel XD and I love giving him a pair of cute green retro shoes that he wears barefoot and gets all dingy and worn... hehehe And I love my char Rufe's over excited-ness, his big red tail all bushy and waving about like squirrels doo. And that lion guy... his powerful face... achk I should stop now!
I searched on FA to see if I could locate any image that dealt with the black lives matter movement and combating racism. Something I could fave. Much to my surprise there was not a singe one in my search result. :( It was then that I knew I had to make this drawing.
I want to make a statement that i feel that if the furry community is to be a truly all accepting and tight-knit subculture, then we should also for the sake of our fellow minority furs and the world around us, stand in solidarity with loving support and understanding for those persecuted by contemporary american society.
This may not be what the furry community is right now, but it is what I had thought it would be when I was young and would like to see it be. A socially liberal group where everyone is free to express themselves and not face persecution for their essential identity.
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So in this picture I incorporated anthros who were of African origin. A lion, a black panther leopard, a jackal, a hyena (my very own Sherako :) ), and the giant elephant. They represent to me the furry equivalent of a person of African descent. My own squirrel fursona Rufe is there too participating as an ally, in the back of the group (allys should never place themselves as leaders of the group). I tried my best to draw characters that were evocative of African American culture as best I could with a level of respect, trying to avoid stereotypes while not pushing the idea of cultural integration (I.E. I tried to draw them as they really are). Thats a big area when it comes to racism in America. People can say and believe that they are not racist simply by claiming they dont look at skin color. But the root of racism today lies most heavily in negative perceptions of minority culture.
To give an example of the negative perceptions and archetypes that generate racism, I have provided a link to the video of the death of John Crawford III who was killed by police in a Walmart because they thoguht the toy gun he had picked up in the store was in fact a real assault weapon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZ-teZsZmo
In this video John Crawford III, a black male, picks up a toy rifle from the shelves at the walmart and walks around carrying the toy while talking on his cellphone. The security staff and customers assume it is a real weapon and the police are called, whom enter the store in combat mode and then fire upon John as soon as they see him, killing him. In the video you can hear the 911 caller claim he is 'arming' the gun and 'pointing it around'. When in fact again, this was a toy and a product from the store. Ask yourselves, why did the caller claim he was armed and arming himself? It is because the caller saw a black male with what appeared to be a weapon and instantly assumed that John was planning real violence.
I am sure the caller would not describe themselves as racist. But that is not enough. For racism is really a subconscious learned behavior that occurs in a flash of a moment. He saw this image of a young black man talking on his phone with a toy gun and immediately gave into his instinctive behavior, his internal learned racism: prejudice. It also must be asked why the police fired upon him before he even was aware of them, he did not even raise his toy gun at them. The end result is this man died because of a mistaken prejudice assumption about African-American culture.
No charges were filed against the police in the death despite vocal calls for justice from the man's family.
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Stereotypes do not apply across the board. We should all know that as furries and a sexually diverse community. It is unfair to hold someone to these instinctive learned stereotype behaviors. For those in the African-American community, it can have dire consequences.
If you are against racism, it is not enough to just simply say to others and yourself that you do not judge people by skin color. You need to combat the subconscious instinct for snap prejudice assumptions. That takes work. It takes self-policing. It takes questioning your thought patterns and being aware of what goes into how you make quick decisions. Because very few people can really claim to be free of racism and prejudice. It is not a simple statement of intent. It is a real metal exercise and behavioral training. But this is what you should do if you truly believe everyone should be given an equal chance.
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I hope that this drawing does inspire some, and amuse a few. :) I had a really great time drawing these characters, and I really loved being able to revive my very old hyena char Sherako for this pic :) hes such the sensual beast :3 the dirty rebel XD and I love giving him a pair of cute green retro shoes that he wears barefoot and gets all dingy and worn... hehehe And I love my char Rufe's over excited-ness, his big red tail all bushy and waving about like squirrels doo. And that lion guy... his powerful face... achk I should stop now!
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Not to be rude, but I think this is something people outside the US have very skewed perspectives of, mostly because police in this county us their guns before trying a non-lethal option (and it seems when they do use guns, they shoot to kill). I live in a town that bills itself as progressive but in the past few years at least two people have died needlessly because the cops decided it was better to kill someone who was the under the influence instead of incapacitating them at the very least and letting them sober up. It's become more than obvious that it's mostly white cops doing this and it's not a stretch to say that the devaluing of people of color is a very big root cause of this phenomenon
Well... I kind of want to discuss this in the furry community. One reason is because there are minorities in the furry world.
The other reason is that when I was young, I was always under the impression that the furry world was about compassion and acceptance. And as of lately, I fear that its becoming more of an escape place only, very far from reality. And I am seeing furs who are speaking out against other people, with real despise. Ive seen racist comments sneak in, mean ones, not causal ones. I dont want the furry community to become a place where racism, genderphobia (yes ive actually seen furries talk shit about transgender people), and hatred becomes acceptable. I also dont want furries to become wholly detached from the problems that exist in the real world.
I would like furries to be a positive and progressive group of people that welcome all, give personal freedom, free up social bondages on sexuality and gender, and just love everyone. :3 thats why I feel the need to talk about this stuff here. I want to tell minorities they are welcomed, and I want ot tell those who do not give a crap about the issue of race that is basically is part of life in any social group you go to and you cant pretend it doesnt exist.
The other reason is that when I was young, I was always under the impression that the furry world was about compassion and acceptance. And as of lately, I fear that its becoming more of an escape place only, very far from reality. And I am seeing furs who are speaking out against other people, with real despise. Ive seen racist comments sneak in, mean ones, not causal ones. I dont want the furry community to become a place where racism, genderphobia (yes ive actually seen furries talk shit about transgender people), and hatred becomes acceptable. I also dont want furries to become wholly detached from the problems that exist in the real world.
I would like furries to be a positive and progressive group of people that welcome all, give personal freedom, free up social bondages on sexuality and gender, and just love everyone. :3 thats why I feel the need to talk about this stuff here. I want to tell minorities they are welcomed, and I want ot tell those who do not give a crap about the issue of race that is basically is part of life in any social group you go to and you cant pretend it doesnt exist.
Thats like saying that Russia is a good place for gay people because they only get arrested there, while in Syria they would be beheaded.
And by saying that people who do not agree with your views on society need to leave the country is not liberty or the sign of a free society. In fact the USA actually charges a hefy fee to renounce ones citizenship, and it would take uprooting ones entire life.
I would rather support changing American culture so that it is not so racially divisive as it is now. Thats standing and fighting for a cause. Im staying put.
And by saying that people who do not agree with your views on society need to leave the country is not liberty or the sign of a free society. In fact the USA actually charges a hefy fee to renounce ones citizenship, and it would take uprooting ones entire life.
I would rather support changing American culture so that it is not so racially divisive as it is now. Thats standing and fighting for a cause. Im staying put.
I'm just thinking based upon what I read in my history classes that the white man has been nothing but a diabolical figure; we've always been keeping everyone down. Bullies need to be isolated. If you were to split off and separate then there would be no limits to what you could accomplish. I would also draw parallels to your situation and that of the Jews of Europe, who in 1948 finally could go to a nation free of goyim and live in peace.
Acknowledge history as what it is, dont distort it to make it look more favorable to you. Slavery is slavery, genocide is genocide. Your choice is to decide how you will move forward. You dont have to answer for the sins of your ancestors, but you do have to do something about the sins currently being perpetuated.
You could accomplish liberation, justice, and equality in a few hours with an airplane going across the Atlantic and the United States has not been able to do that in centuries. I don't think things are going to get better here but in a land without the blue-eyed devils, a land without us, you wouldn't have the limiting factors.
I don't know why you're pointing toward me as if I'm the one who completely hates America. It has its faults as any nation, but it's my home. I have every right to live here.
Africa doesn't have its own identity anymore. Other nations took over so it really doesn't make a difference. At least in the United States I have better access to food and water; it's more of a "could be worse" situation.
Africa doesn't have its own identity anymore. Other nations took over so it really doesn't make a difference. At least in the United States I have better access to food and water; it's more of a "could be worse" situation.
I'm not saying you hate America and you have every right to stay if you feel like it's your home.
The situation is rather comparable to the Ashkenazic population of New York City, who love America as it is the land of their birth. However, the Jewish homeland is Israel, not New York- they have a special connection to Zion that America does not offer. It also is rather interesting that no small number of scholars and musicians have equated Africa in general, and Ethiopia in particular, as a sort of black Zion to which the Diaspora could return.
In all honesty, I could agree that Black Lives Matter but in Africa, those lives matter more than in the United States
The situation is rather comparable to the Ashkenazic population of New York City, who love America as it is the land of their birth. However, the Jewish homeland is Israel, not New York- they have a special connection to Zion that America does not offer. It also is rather interesting that no small number of scholars and musicians have equated Africa in general, and Ethiopia in particular, as a sort of black Zion to which the Diaspora could return.
In all honesty, I could agree that Black Lives Matter but in Africa, those lives matter more than in the United States
My origin is unknown; that part of history has been wiped away. It is made even more complicated because my great grandparents from my mother's side and my grandfather from my dad side of the family were Cherokee. I can't trace back my African ancestry, and I can barely trace back my Cherokee ancestry. So America is my home, not Africa.
Fine you can choose America as your home but you'd be hard pressed to find someone whose experience is near what you have. I would recommend reading books by Russell Means, Vine Deloria and Stokely Carmichael. After reading those, I realized that the color line is important to finding out who you are. We're different even if we are born under the same flag
Friend... dont even bother to let that Darrylwolf guy tell you what to think when it comes to race. I just read that shit.
Hes promoting a belief among whites that racism can only be cured by separating all races from each other (by continent in his case). He claims hes all about ending racism and helping minorites be more happy. But the gist of his statements is he believes blacks should all be moved to Africa and Latinos to south america ETC. Hes an abhorent person even moreso that he cornered a black person like you and tried to force you with a bunch of pseudo-intellectual wordplay to 'see the reason' in his insane idea of racial extradition.
Hes promoting a belief among whites that racism can only be cured by separating all races from each other (by continent in his case). He claims hes all about ending racism and helping minorites be more happy. But the gist of his statements is he believes blacks should all be moved to Africa and Latinos to south america ETC. Hes an abhorent person even moreso that he cornered a black person like you and tried to force you with a bunch of pseudo-intellectual wordplay to 'see the reason' in his insane idea of racial extradition.
But we're not going "home" because the United States is our home, with no question or debate about it. We've already burnt the ships and decided to be Americans. There's not even the slightest thought of becoming detached from the US but I could totally understand if having a negative experience living in America would sour some other peoples' love of country. I've read history enough to know that there have been men who advocated returning and they have made some pretty strong, logical arguments. So, seeing as how the sense of patriotism is not as strong, just realize that you can leave at any time if you feel like your needs aren't being met. Of course, I'd stay in spite of the problems, but I can't speak for you.
You don't have to live in America, you get to live here. Or not.
You don't have to live in America, you get to live here. Or not.
Oh so america is 'ours' because we essentially stole it throgh force. Thats exactly what i expected you to say.
And i have thought a hell of a lot about leaving, but ive chse to stay so that i can continue to fuck with patriots and demand for a radical change a revolution.
And you know what? I watched how your cornered a meek black furry and try to force him to accept your idea that blacks belong in africa. That is outright disgusting. Blacks, rap culture, etc are all 100% an american creation and they absolutely belong to stay wherever they want regardless of wether or not they respect the powers that be. If i see you put down that guy again and try and make him feel like he doesnt belong, ill fuck you up
And i have thought a hell of a lot about leaving, but ive chse to stay so that i can continue to fuck with patriots and demand for a radical change a revolution.
And you know what? I watched how your cornered a meek black furry and try to force him to accept your idea that blacks belong in africa. That is outright disgusting. Blacks, rap culture, etc are all 100% an american creation and they absolutely belong to stay wherever they want regardless of wether or not they respect the powers that be. If i see you put down that guy again and try and make him feel like he doesnt belong, ill fuck you up
I didn't force him to believe anything, I recommended him some books that I thought would be rather helpful and I told him that the possibility of leaving America exists, if he wants to do so. Maybe I'm wrong and he wants to stay a Yank even of it means facing a little more trouble. But what bad could come with "playing the field" when it comes to seeking justice and freedom? And he could think for himself and decide whether or not he wants to stay or even of those authors were any good. Maybe he won't get as much mileage out of those books but they sure helped me out.
They still contain some pretty relevant information for understanding why people naturally just hate each other and how we can keep those negative feelings from boiling over to where we do something we both regret.
And don't go fucking up patriots because I know a few who don't take insults lightly.
They still contain some pretty relevant information for understanding why people naturally just hate each other and how we can keep those negative feelings from boiling over to where we do something we both regret.
And don't go fucking up patriots because I know a few who don't take insults lightly.
You jsut simply want to solve race issues by simply trying to delete minorities from your society through expatriation. You jsut dont want to have to look or deal with blacks unless they exactly mirror white culture to a T. Worse so, you actually have jsutified hatred as totally acceptable.
Hatred ? I think giving two different peoples who have a history of distrust the distance they want. You don't have to mirror our culture because the cultures are totally different and irreconcilable. And nobody would ever accuse you of being patriotic because they're in this land, not of it. That's why I feel that going detached would be a good idea if you've never thought of yourself as being American in the first place. Of course, you could always stay but I don't think things are going to improve anytime soon.
:) Im very greatful for your words. I try in what little ways I can. Mostly I feel it is my responsibility to take on the bigoted in my community.... oh and it is also nice to see more black identified furries in the community ^^. Im so used to growing up admist american white culture and also experiencing it completely when participating in fantasy fandom and the furry community. I would like to see more open racial diversity in the furry world. :) Hence why I drew the anthros here as African animals. I am IDing them as like African Americans.
Let me break down that statement. By saying so in response to 'black lives matter' the message is to try and take the focus off black issues and instead generalize it. But if the black population is experiencing a higher rate of death by police than other races, then the issues the black community is facing are not the general experience of other races. Stating 'black lives matter!' is an attempt to focus on the problems black people face in society, problems unique to them that are not shared by other races statistically.
The black community are experiencing statistically more violence, living at a higher rate of poverty, more likely to go to prison, and more likely to be homeless. Do we focus attention on these issues by saying black lives matter? Or are you going to say that this is not an issue that should be discussed by saying 'all lives matter' in response?
For right now, black lives matter less in America.
The black community are experiencing statistically more violence, living at a higher rate of poverty, more likely to go to prison, and more likely to be homeless. Do we focus attention on these issues by saying black lives matter? Or are you going to say that this is not an issue that should be discussed by saying 'all lives matter' in response?
For right now, black lives matter less in America.
oh no i agree and no it's not fare to them. but where i live it's a totally different story. cops shoot anybody they want where i live black or white. and also we have had more blacks mug and/or kill people for years YEARS and get away with it by playing the minority card. and that's before the whole black lives matter message came up. also all my black friends, coworkers and family members say all lives matter not just one group. now grant it raceisem is still a problem one that's gotten worse over the past 8 to 10 years and im against it fully. and another thing over the past 14 years cop were the ones being killed that's why now most of them in my state are power abusing fucktards. it all comes down to thug life and what it's done not just to whites but to blacks as well. so if the gang and biggy bullshit stops maybe things might get better oh and fyi more blacks die from gang related shit then cops. the police shit's all the media want's to talk about to start shit to make more news for them.
Black activists are not allied with murderers and rapists you know. Dying from gang violence is not simply a product of gangs. Gangs are not there just to be there. They exist due to socio-economic factors that make gang activity advantageous. You could throw as many gang guys you like into jail, but so long as that environment exists in society that made gangs possible, then they will allways reappear and the crime will never end. This is a result of poverty, lack of education, inadequate social services, and a prime American culture that is entirely focused on competitive masculine individualism and the celebration of wealth and success.
So in fact, "black lives matter" is a phrase that also applies to black on black violence, and the black community has come to recognize that such violence cannot be stopped by them so long as these societal systems that encourage gang formation remain. And a lot of that is stuff that can only be changed by challenging american government, justice, and culture itself.
So in fact, "black lives matter" is a phrase that also applies to black on black violence, and the black community has come to recognize that such violence cannot be stopped by them so long as these societal systems that encourage gang formation remain. And a lot of that is stuff that can only be changed by challenging american government, justice, and culture itself.
Oh my goodness, so much wrong with this picture...
First off - the Confederate Flag has been used in a positive manner as well. For instance, Southern military units would fly that flag as a form of regional pride. Much of the modern-day usage is in the same vein.
Second - saying complaining that 'Blac
Actually, no. I'm giving this no more consideration. This post will almost certainly be deleted anyway, so there's no point in trying to debate you.
First off - the Confederate Flag has been used in a positive manner as well. For instance, Southern military units would fly that flag as a form of regional pride. Much of the modern-day usage is in the same vein.
Second - saying complaining that 'Blac
Actually, no. I'm giving this no more consideration. This post will almost certainly be deleted anyway, so there's no point in trying to debate you.
all lives matter is said as a response to Black Lives Matter. The real intent of the phrase is to eliminate the idea that black people experience a different reality than the white majority. Said as a rebuttal to black lives matter is to say that black people should not protest or make claim that they are victims of systematic racism. It is to belittle and any social problems black people may be experiencing as nonexistent.
The fact that the government will not release statistics on how many people were killed by police and what race they were is proof there is a problem
The fact that the government will not release statistics on how many people were killed by police and what race they were is proof there is a problem
You didnt link me to his social media.....
And its not about saying im so sorry, its about listening and understanding. Im not ashamed of my pic, it may not be the best way of expression but its my way of saying how much I respect the struggles and demands they are fighting for. I do that because I know what it was like to be persecuted for being gay.
And its not about saying im so sorry, its about listening and understanding. Im not ashamed of my pic, it may not be the best way of expression but its my way of saying how much I respect the struggles and demands they are fighting for. I do that because I know what it was like to be persecuted for being gay.
Funny because the only one that is actually black in the picture is that cat,the human is brown;D
Also I‘d think in a world with Animal people Afro- and European-American relations would be a minor problem, seriously throwing animal people into the mix kind of makes the whole idea laughable, where my #BigCatsMatter people at?
Also I‘d think in a world with Animal people Afro- and European-American relations would be a minor problem, seriously throwing animal people into the mix kind of makes the whole idea laughable, where my #BigCatsMatter people at?
Its my way of expressing support for the BLM movement though the medium of art I like the most. I turned African American people into furries in this pic which for me is a symbol of admiration and love for them. White supremacists and racists can never be true furries in my mind and I show no respect to any in the furry community. Furries are a sexual subculture known for its progressive tolerance. Anyone who wants to spread intolerance in the community should be thrown out.
Well, hehe, I find it funny how you think there can be true and false furries. Just because someone doesn‘t share your oppinion or world view doesn‘t mean that they‘re less legitimate, in fact that is I think a bit of a catch 22, „We‘re accepting everyone *Squeee* EXCEPT NOT,lol“
Pure Inclusivity with exclusivity doesn‘t exist, if you can‘t tolerate differen‘t world views then you are making a farce of the term ˋProgressive tolerance‘ because progress can only happen when view points and ideas collide, what you seem to be doing from what you have told me is just as selective as the ghost you are chasing, you should start reading Nietzsche and keep in mind the famous:
„He who fights monsters...“
Pure Inclusivity with exclusivity doesn‘t exist, if you can‘t tolerate differen‘t world views then you are making a farce of the term ˋProgressive tolerance‘ because progress can only happen when view points and ideas collide, what you seem to be doing from what you have told me is just as selective as the ghost you are chasing, you should start reading Nietzsche and keep in mind the famous:
„He who fights monsters...“
Pure inclusivity does in fact not exist... because u cant be inclusive of someone who does not support equality for all! I am open to a variety of people, but not when you decide to start saying these 'people' are all fucked up because of their racial and sexual background. I am not inclusive of someone that has no empathy.
Youre right though I am not 100% inclusive. I choose to support people for their racial, cultural, and gender differences. I am NOT inclusive of religious zealots, right wing traditionalist culture warriors, impotent prudes who are mortified by sexual freedom, and alt-right cowards that dont express their true inner person and stalk around behind anon meme avatars on social media profiles.
Youre right though I am not 100% inclusive. I choose to support people for their racial, cultural, and gender differences. I am NOT inclusive of religious zealots, right wing traditionalist culture warriors, impotent prudes who are mortified by sexual freedom, and alt-right cowards that dont express their true inner person and stalk around behind anon meme avatars on social media profiles.
How exactly does desecrating your flag, burning down your own neighborhoods, making death threats toward the children of cops, and acting like total scumbags show that your lives matter? Cuz that my friend is all I've ever seen the BLM movement do around here... Nothing but anarchist reactionaries who do no good. When my black friend was shot, nobody cared about black lives then... Sad.
thats all you have seen because your only input about black civil rights protesters are in the form of video blogs and articles that scream on about how violent the movement is. Your input is from people who like you all have a worldview that these protesters inspire contempt in you by their presence. so you will seek out media that confirms your ideas that these groups are full of violence and are the apparent 'true' instigators of racism, not white people.
I have been to 3 separate BLM rallies and I as a long haired white person was never attacked. I even traveled around Ferguson and was at a store about one block from where the roads were choked full of protesters and totally blocked. None of those people attacked me or every single white person they saw (in fact Ferguson has a very significant white population who I saw going about their business at the store with their black co workers just a block from the protests) My family lives outside of Ferguson just 8 miles away.
All this violence was being caused by a small handful of criminals and youths who had no interest in any real social change but instead just cared about money, greed, and destruction. And they only really came out at night. No one in Ferguson liked them. However, people focused all the media upon those crimes and not the peaceful but rightfully angry protesters demands. Because a lot of people want confimation to their deeply held belief that african american culture is to them the real problem with society and all their fault and that institutional racism no longer exists anymore.
I have been to 3 separate BLM rallies and I as a long haired white person was never attacked. I even traveled around Ferguson and was at a store about one block from where the roads were choked full of protesters and totally blocked. None of those people attacked me or every single white person they saw (in fact Ferguson has a very significant white population who I saw going about their business at the store with their black co workers just a block from the protests) My family lives outside of Ferguson just 8 miles away.
All this violence was being caused by a small handful of criminals and youths who had no interest in any real social change but instead just cared about money, greed, and destruction. And they only really came out at night. No one in Ferguson liked them. However, people focused all the media upon those crimes and not the peaceful but rightfully angry protesters demands. Because a lot of people want confimation to their deeply held belief that african american culture is to them the real problem with society and all their fault and that institutional racism no longer exists anymore.
In all seriousness, I think we all need to just get along. The only way we're every gonna make it in society is if we all learn to work together. While I don't agree with this movement, because it's just the same double standard movement as the SJW BS, and in fact, those who support this movement are in fact racist themselves.
Not saying I don't like the artwork. I think it's good. but I don't agree with the movement associated with it.
I don't care if you're white, black, Latino, heck I don't even care if you're an alien from Mars, if you treat me nice, you'll receive the same back. You don't need no movement, because there's nothing here. There hasn't been a big issue since the 20's.
Not saying I don't like the artwork. I think it's good. but I don't agree with the movement associated with it.
I don't care if you're white, black, Latino, heck I don't even care if you're an alien from Mars, if you treat me nice, you'll receive the same back. You don't need no movement, because there's nothing here. There hasn't been a big issue since the 20's.
Im not racist against white people, and I support this movement. I believe that the only way to support getting along is to get behind this movement.
I flat out do not believe that "there hasn't been a big issue since the 20's". Thats erasing the existence of the KKK, Jim Crow laws, segregation, lynchings, and state sponsored forced sterilization. And these things do not go away just because of a law being passed in 64" The intense opposition to the Civil Rights act will not disappear in the blink of an eye. And the bigotry that resulted from it still exists and makes tangible affects on our society.
I flat out do not believe that "there hasn't been a big issue since the 20's". Thats erasing the existence of the KKK, Jim Crow laws, segregation, lynchings, and state sponsored forced sterilization. And these things do not go away just because of a law being passed in 64" The intense opposition to the Civil Rights act will not disappear in the blink of an eye. And the bigotry that resulted from it still exists and makes tangible affects on our society.
Im trying to find ways. I support protests that do not involve violence against people. I do understadn that in some cases it justifiable considering what imunity cops can get away with violence. But i still absolutely believe that respondind qwith violence will result in more violence. Violence is a constant feedback. i think what really needs to happen now is we have to start organizing unions and peacefully telling people that we will 'sit out' the system until it is remade. The protest is only the falshpoint, now we have to start banding toghether and going after the power structures in all of our society that allows others to act with so much lack of caring and indifference to human life.
Astonishing how this movement has devolved into a front for a Marxist overhaul of the US.
Marxism is not the solution to systemic racism. If anything, it would make it far worse, especially in a nation of over 300,000,000 astonishingly diverse people who can’t agree on what morality is or looks like.
Marxism is not the solution to systemic racism. If anything, it would make it far worse, especially in a nation of over 300,000,000 astonishingly diverse people who can’t agree on what morality is or looks like.
I wanna see your proof that BLM is being orchestrated by Marxists.
And you know what, youre cucked because you allready live in a post-modernist slave wage society that makes you feel you have a chance at being a grand celebrity business mogul while you work yourself to death with no guarantee of security or survival. And they blame it all on other people who have no money and no level of power.
If you actually read Marx... CLASS conciousness is the key. Socialists eliminate the difference between race and focus on the class and there are tons of working poor whites, latinos, blacks, etc. LIBERALS (who are capitalists) play to race divides, just like conservative nationalist. liberals pit races, gender noconforminsts, non christians against the white hegemony, conservatives pit white americans against everyone else. Socialists do not do any of that. they are the working class against the eilite power class, and that is the real key.
And you know what, youre cucked because you allready live in a post-modernist slave wage society that makes you feel you have a chance at being a grand celebrity business mogul while you work yourself to death with no guarantee of security or survival. And they blame it all on other people who have no money and no level of power.
If you actually read Marx... CLASS conciousness is the key. Socialists eliminate the difference between race and focus on the class and there are tons of working poor whites, latinos, blacks, etc. LIBERALS (who are capitalists) play to race divides, just like conservative nationalist. liberals pit races, gender noconforminsts, non christians against the white hegemony, conservatives pit white americans against everyone else. Socialists do not do any of that. they are the working class against the eilite power class, and that is the real key.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-c.....ained-marxist/
And unless you're blind, the hundreds of Marxists and anarchists in the riots are pretty easy to pick out. Just watch some of the livestreams.
And I'm sorry, but how exactly to liberals and conservatives fuel these conflicts when they're the ones who are constantly and falsely labeled as sexists, white supremacists, and all sorts of other slander by leftists?
Also, if socialism is really the working class against the elite, why is the elite (Hollywood, Amazon, etc) so pro-socialist?
And unless you're blind, the hundreds of Marxists and anarchists in the riots are pretty easy to pick out. Just watch some of the livestreams.
And I'm sorry, but how exactly to liberals and conservatives fuel these conflicts when they're the ones who are constantly and falsely labeled as sexists, white supremacists, and all sorts of other slander by leftists?
Also, if socialism is really the working class against the elite, why is the elite (Hollywood, Amazon, etc) so pro-socialist?
NY post is very right leaning, note al;so how they are citing a report from breitbart. None of these people give a shit to really know her true values. If you really wanna know you can read her book and find out! Or watch this video clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwFq_MnaGds
All these people roaring angry abour marxism have not read a single bit of it. A lot of Marx's analysis on society were great, but hes not the only driver or ideology behind socialism.
As for socialism in AMAZON?!??!?! are you kidding me??
Watch this!
https://youtu.be/u2LusJWZ6c4 Watch Bezoz tell the Reagan Foundation how much money he donates to the military and national defense!
The richest fuckign man in the world is pro socialism!?! The corporation that not only didnt pay taxes but actually used loopholes to make the govt PAY THEM on tax day! The company who has had pregnant workers misscarrage on shift, who regiments their bathroom breaks, who destroys local economies and monopolizes every industry possible, who flaunt environmental, drone, and data collecting regulation.... YEAH! Socialist! Clearly you dont know a single thing about socialism if youre willing to believe the most richest man in the world and his company is marxist socialism! All because hes in a personal feud with Trump and because they said some fluff about supporting gay/trans people (which is profitable!).
Let me school you. America is liberal capitalism. Democrats are liberals, republicans are liberals too! (though now theyre moving towards imperialist nationalism). Liberalism IS capitalism. Socialism is not liberalism. Liberalism is capitalism with a small number of modest programs in place to moderate the humanitarian plights that capitalism causes. Read the definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism "liberalism supports free markets, limited government, capitalism..." If you believe in free markets, capitalism, freedom of religion, equal rights, limited govt, secularism...... YOURE A LIBERAL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwFq_MnaGds
All these people roaring angry abour marxism have not read a single bit of it. A lot of Marx's analysis on society were great, but hes not the only driver or ideology behind socialism.
As for socialism in AMAZON?!??!?! are you kidding me??
Watch this!
https://youtu.be/u2LusJWZ6c4 Watch Bezoz tell the Reagan Foundation how much money he donates to the military and national defense!
The richest fuckign man in the world is pro socialism!?! The corporation that not only didnt pay taxes but actually used loopholes to make the govt PAY THEM on tax day! The company who has had pregnant workers misscarrage on shift, who regiments their bathroom breaks, who destroys local economies and monopolizes every industry possible, who flaunt environmental, drone, and data collecting regulation.... YEAH! Socialist! Clearly you dont know a single thing about socialism if youre willing to believe the most richest man in the world and his company is marxist socialism! All because hes in a personal feud with Trump and because they said some fluff about supporting gay/trans people (which is profitable!).
Let me school you. America is liberal capitalism. Democrats are liberals, republicans are liberals too! (though now theyre moving towards imperialist nationalism). Liberalism IS capitalism. Socialism is not liberalism. Liberalism is capitalism with a small number of modest programs in place to moderate the humanitarian plights that capitalism causes. Read the definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism "liberalism supports free markets, limited government, capitalism..." If you believe in free markets, capitalism, freedom of religion, equal rights, limited govt, secularism...... YOURE A LIBERAL!
Well, yeah, by political definition, I am. I'm not understanding why you're latching on to that one detail.
Does the NY Post's bias make them wrong?
https://deadline.com/2020/06/jeff-b.....st-1202952597/
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The whole idea of "social justice" (or whatever you call it) is severely flawed, going back to my original post about the government and the huge population of the US. Take a look at Obama's attempt at oligopolizing healthcare.
Would you say that your idea of socialism relies on pure democracy?
Does the NY Post's bias make them wrong?
https://deadline.com/2020/06/jeff-b.....st-1202952597/
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The whole idea of "social justice" (or whatever you call it) is severely flawed, going back to my original post about the government and the huge population of the US. Take a look at Obama's attempt at oligopolizing healthcare.
Would you say that your idea of socialism relies on pure democracy?
All iy post is doing is just cutting word for word from breitbart who are even more deadset against any kind of progressivism and has regularly been debunked and caught in open lies.
How does social justice relate to obamas floppy pure on liberal and mostly ineffective healthcare policy (which Trump seems to have decided is no longer an important issue though they could have easily overturned it by now)? How do you PROVE that rioters are marxist?
That article tries to tie in Patrisse to Mann and Aeyers which they identify as being part of the weather underground tht the govt defined as being a terrorist group. So what is the death count of the WU. How many people did these guys kill in their terroristic activities? And how does this compare to right wing racist terrorists today? how many people have those guys killed? How do you account for the recent breakup of the plot to capture and execute the governor of Michigan? What about the Tree of Life Synagogue massacre? Or the Poway Synagogue killing? Or the El Paso shooting?
How does social justice relate to obamas floppy pure on liberal and mostly ineffective healthcare policy (which Trump seems to have decided is no longer an important issue though they could have easily overturned it by now)? How do you PROVE that rioters are marxist?
That article tries to tie in Patrisse to Mann and Aeyers which they identify as being part of the weather underground tht the govt defined as being a terrorist group. So what is the death count of the WU. How many people did these guys kill in their terroristic activities? And how does this compare to right wing racist terrorists today? how many people have those guys killed? How do you account for the recent breakup of the plot to capture and execute the governor of Michigan? What about the Tree of Life Synagogue massacre? Or the Poway Synagogue killing? Or the El Paso shooting?
Does that make them wrong about that particular case?
Overturning something isn’t easy, especially when the opposing party fights it.
Obamacare was an attempt to appease the idea that healthcare is a “right” even though that implies someone has a right to the fruits of someone else’s labor.
It doesn’t take much to pick out the anti-capitalist slogans, soviet symbolism, and anarchist behavior of smashing cars and businesses. Have you not seen this?
And how does any of that compare to the literally constant homicides and other crimes in leftist-run cities like Detroit, LA, NY, etc?
Is it wise to have a bunch of welfare programs targeting minorities that just make them increasingly reliant on government handouts?
And again, is your idea of a just society rooted in pure democracy?
Overturning something isn’t easy, especially when the opposing party fights it.
Obamacare was an attempt to appease the idea that healthcare is a “right” even though that implies someone has a right to the fruits of someone else’s labor.
It doesn’t take much to pick out the anti-capitalist slogans, soviet symbolism, and anarchist behavior of smashing cars and businesses. Have you not seen this?
And how does any of that compare to the literally constant homicides and other crimes in leftist-run cities like Detroit, LA, NY, etc?
Is it wise to have a bunch of welfare programs targeting minorities that just make them increasingly reliant on government handouts?
And again, is your idea of a just society rooted in pure democracy?
here we go again.... ^^
you know you guys just want to be ruled over by a king right? a 'fearless leader' who tells you dreamy eyed tales about how great and wonderful the american blood is and gives you marching orders for going to war and proving what a man you are against the degenerate invaders. to stand in fatigues like a battle machine yes SIR yes SIR! shoot to kill defend the turf from bluehaired fat feminists. one leader to just basically yell at you as you crawl through the mud with your rifle in hand and remakes you into a tough man like a big bad daddy would.
you know you guys just want to be ruled over by a king right? a 'fearless leader' who tells you dreamy eyed tales about how great and wonderful the american blood is and gives you marching orders for going to war and proving what a man you are against the degenerate invaders. to stand in fatigues like a battle machine yes SIR yes SIR! shoot to kill defend the turf from bluehaired fat feminists. one leader to just basically yell at you as you crawl through the mud with your rifle in hand and remakes you into a tough man like a big bad daddy would.
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