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Ever wake up and to your surprise, you're no longer made of meat, and all you can think is "what the HELL did I drink last night?"
It's okay, Cat, you look good. Trust me, you'll get used to it. It's not a bad life.
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It's okay, Cat, you look good. Trust me, you'll get used to it. It's not a bad life.
Cat ©
catldr24Art © The guy who TOTALLY had no hand in this synthetic conversion at all, me!
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A. I'm genuinely curious. Why not?
B. Okay so you turn the complexity way up. The human brain is amazingly adaptable and handles damage in impressive ways. So you slowly replace it with synthetics, one neuron at a time. You let the brain adapt and accept the synthetic parts. It takes a while but eventually the last organic material is replaced.
B. Okay so you turn the complexity way up. The human brain is amazingly adaptable and handles damage in impressive ways. So you slowly replace it with synthetics, one neuron at a time. You let the brain adapt and accept the synthetic parts. It takes a while but eventually the last organic material is replaced.
A. Take the boat and replace it it piece by piece, but every time you remove a piece, put it back together in another location, eventually you have 2 boats. Which is the original?
And that person is dead. Similar to how a Star Trek teleport kills the user and makes an exact copy. That original is still dead, leaving only a copy.
And that person is dead. Similar to how a Star Trek teleport kills the user and makes an exact copy. That original is still dead, leaving only a copy.
Its like when you teleport someone right? i mean *you* are not the individual atoms of your body but actually the way thoes atoms are arrange, the patters in the atoms is what makes you.. well you, when you change your brain into something else even with the same patter with other materials its still just a copy of the original being, you are ikani i can just copy your atom patters make my own ikani, it would still be ikani and there would be no diference in each aside from a different time/space persection (one is looking right and the other left xD) but that does not change the fac that there are now 2 ikanis in my room, diferent beings just copys of each other, now when you are taking thoes parts and turn them into synthetics you are taking the patter of the original being and making a *better* copy of it with a diferent patter to make it work with the synthetic bits, even if you keep most stuff organic things have change, the way the brain takes and recieves estimulation is now diferent, this can lead to a diferent way of seen things and ultimately a diferents in the way choices are made
If you think about it our consciousness is just a *program* that our brain runs when we are awake, when we sleep that program shuts downs (or dies depends on how you look at it), and when we awake the next morning the program starts again, we just dont notice because we have a database we call memory that we use to recall who we where and continue from where yesterdays consciousness left
Deep stuff, ill go back into my hole, sorry for my english XD
If you think about it our consciousness is just a *program* that our brain runs when we are awake, when we sleep that program shuts downs (or dies depends on how you look at it), and when we awake the next morning the program starts again, we just dont notice because we have a database we call memory that we use to recall who we where and continue from where yesterdays consciousness left
Deep stuff, ill go back into my hole, sorry for my english XD
A deeply philosophical conundrum this all is, for sure. But for a person to be a person, it's that uninterrupted contiguous consciousness that seems to matter most. So if one neuron was replaced at a time, and the consciousness allowed to flow over it (say, your 'self' being air or water in a series of specially designed containers), no loss of self occurs. Keep doing that and eventually the original brain is lost, but the mind that it supported remains. Changed, perhaps, but not lost.
This is hard for some people to really cognate properly. Maybe if they had better brains... :3
This is hard for some people to really cognate properly. Maybe if they had better brains... :3
That's like saying you can't copy a file to a second hard drive.
The brain is an organ, the consciousness is a person. It's an emergent property of neural networks; which is to say that you are not your brain, but you exist because of your brain. (At least, while you are awake or in certain sleep phases.) The "what if" posited by transhumanist fiction is that you could continue existing without it, like with a synthetic replacement.
The brain is an organ, the consciousness is a person. It's an emergent property of neural networks; which is to say that you are not your brain, but you exist because of your brain. (At least, while you are awake or in certain sleep phases.) The "what if" posited by transhumanist fiction is that you could continue existing without it, like with a synthetic replacement.
Your consciousness ceases to exist every night when you go to sleep. You only have continuity of experiences because when your brain reboots, it gives the new instance of your consciousness its collected memories.
Transhumanist fiction often posits that the same continuity of experiences could be achieved by reawakening a person's consciousness in a different vessel, using a copy of their memories. Not all transhumanist fiction does this, however. Notably, Ghost in the Shell spends some time speculating on the nature of souls and of consciousness, while the Mindjammer roleplaying game suggests that successive iterations of a consciousness would in fact be separate people, based on the "thanogram" of a now-deceased person.
I don't think anyone knows for sure what would happen or how to tell, which is why transhumanist fiction fills in the gaps by speculating. Your point of view is often expressed or interrogated in these works of fiction as well.
Transhumanist fiction often posits that the same continuity of experiences could be achieved by reawakening a person's consciousness in a different vessel, using a copy of their memories. Not all transhumanist fiction does this, however. Notably, Ghost in the Shell spends some time speculating on the nature of souls and of consciousness, while the Mindjammer roleplaying game suggests that successive iterations of a consciousness would in fact be separate people, based on the "thanogram" of a now-deceased person.
I don't think anyone knows for sure what would happen or how to tell, which is why transhumanist fiction fills in the gaps by speculating. Your point of view is often expressed or interrogated in these works of fiction as well.
in the shadowrun setting they do have that issue yes. A Full 100% synthetic body is near impossible to pull off, and if memory serves required the individual to have various programs to bombard them with memories to keep them "aware" that yes, they do exist and they are a person. Again its been a while but if memory serves there was a book written about this and the man at the end of it all had a conversation with the doctor
"Am I even alive?"
"You are so long as you remember"
"Remember what?"
"That you are alive"
"Am I even alive?"
"You are so long as you remember"
"Remember what?"
"That you are alive"
I'm not sure how I would react if one day I woke up as a machine. I mean I suppose a lot of it has to do with just how sophisticated we are talking about, what 'features' I suppose for lack of a better word would still be available? What would I have to learn to live with out? Anyway, fun piece, quality work as usual.
I honestly don't know how I'd react. I guess it depends on how advanced the brain of the new body is and if I could still partake in human desires. Eating and sleeping being the two major on my list. And breathing.
Being able to go without any of them would also be nice, but the fact I have a choice would be an awesome outcome.
Plus theirs the morality. Will the new body technically last forever with maintenance, tweaks and upgrades, or is it temporary?
I guess another factor (Depending on the persons mental state throughout their life) would be the idea of a kill-switch. Something that slowly over weeks turns off the updates, the tweaks and upgrades and lets you wear out. After all, everyone is told they will die sometime, and their must come a day when you get tired of just trudging on and want to see what everyone else sees at the end of it all.
I guess what I'm saying is that the deal breaker is, can I choose to still be 'human' in mind body and soul, or am I stuck forever in an unfamiliar body potentially forever?
And waking up with boobs would be weirder still and the phrase "It was the only one left in stock" would not be suitably welcomed. XP
Being able to go without any of them would also be nice, but the fact I have a choice would be an awesome outcome.
Plus theirs the morality. Will the new body technically last forever with maintenance, tweaks and upgrades, or is it temporary?
I guess another factor (Depending on the persons mental state throughout their life) would be the idea of a kill-switch. Something that slowly over weeks turns off the updates, the tweaks and upgrades and lets you wear out. After all, everyone is told they will die sometime, and their must come a day when you get tired of just trudging on and want to see what everyone else sees at the end of it all.
I guess what I'm saying is that the deal breaker is, can I choose to still be 'human' in mind body and soul, or am I stuck forever in an unfamiliar body potentially forever?
And waking up with boobs would be weirder still and the phrase "It was the only one left in stock" would not be suitably welcomed. XP
Best stay away from Strype, haha! I like to keep my conversions outside. Not sure how metal and plastic would fare with repeated shifting of shape, biological substances such as bone and flesh are a bit better for that still.
Ignoring that obvious elephant and the elephant known as the shoutbox, she's still quite the looker.
Ignoring that obvious elephant and the elephant known as the shoutbox, she's still quite the looker.
Personally I wouldn't mind being synthetic, but I would prefer being cybernetic if it were to happen. Part flesh, part machine. Superhuman abilities and near invincibility. Fleshy, natural sexual organs and body parts. At least one laser eye. Possibly Scorpion's chain hook in my arm.
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