Yaaa i know that feeling

Same >_>

I feel you there....

i hate it even more when people pull me into random group chats...

I wish people pulled me into random group chats (then I'd atleast feel invited).

Actually I wish people in general would approach me more. I sometimes feel jealious for Kahvi cause he constantly has new people talking to him, but even the rare times when someone adds me in places like steam they never even say hi ;_;

i mean pulled out of the blue without informing me or the other people. Well it didn't help that the people were really unpleasant kind of people as well

I may not be exactly wonderful but I sure hope I'm not scary at least D:

I really can't imagine you'd be scary in any way. You're a person who has her own thoughts, feelings, and opinions to express, every bit as valid as anyone else's, and you've always been a kind and gentle person as far as I've seen.

Actually I wish people in general would approach me more. ... but even the rare times when someone adds me in places like steam they never even say hi ;_;
Oh. The fact that someone might feel this way didn't even slip in my mind, this was an eye opener.

I mean, I'm not very outgoing person in social aspect, especially via digital routes, so I usually don't approach anyone unless I actually have something to say/ask. Might also have something to do with small talk between relatively unknown people not having a place in our culture.

And when I do approach someone I usually don't get reply which makes me even more hesitant to approach anyone.

I'm pretty much the same D: I rarely have stuff to say myself and small talk is strange (but I've been getting the hold of it slowly), but then on top I feel a bit scared to approach people even if I had stuff to say @.@ And when people don't respond it gets more scarier every time.

Plus half the time Ive found furry small talk is more like *nuzzles fur* wanna yiff? >> its hard to find furries that just want to talk

That too, all those e-hugs make me rather uncomfortable xD

Same here sometimes it almost seems a requirement to be a furry ><

Thiiiiiis!

Inorite? D:

I'll approach ya ^^

Hey there, I'm Kage! ^^

(approaches)

(total silence)

(palpable irony)



X3

Try here.. Make friends :P
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/skypefurries

I don't use skype, it's got spyware and I don't want that on my work pc ._.

I had no idea >_>; I figured you didn't want people bothering you too much since you've got so many comments to sort through and stuff.

This is the only submission that has gotten 'lots of comments' so far o.o

But I've not gotten bored of reading any of the new ones, just has gotten harder to follow the conversations going on, but that's just FA's comment system not really ment for that ^^;

Okay ^^;

Should I, like, invite you to chats or (non-sexual) forum roleplay? I like your characters and worldbuilding >_>b

I like chats, but I can't roleplay x'3

Its the new person enters chat stare, i find it somewhat common in the chats ive been in. i dont think your doing anything wrong.

But this happens in chats where everyone already knows me aswell :S

Maybe because you are a unique individual which draw interest from many people xD

Maybe, I'm too strange and nobody wants to appear as my friends - that's what I got when I was a kid.

But I don't actually expect that with furries, every furry is weird atleast a bit cause they like furries.

When I have a schedule to go to Finland I will let you know xD
If I get to see you in person then I will be able to tell hahaha

PSH, I hate when people do that!!

You're always welcome in our group chat during when I stream!! We're a real friendly bunch and love newcomers! ;D

I've never heard of you before but you have a really cool art style :oo *watch*

Pretty much the only place where I never feel this -thing- is my own stream chat aswell, people are always friendly over there :3

moments later: Why are we here? i dunno? *idle chatter resumes*

Yeeeaap, typical.

Been in that situation as well ^^;

I know this feeling well.

It's pretty normal.. it's the typical mentality of small groups within large groups that don't want to leave the comfort of the people they're already familiar with.

The people in my stream chats bombard you with ridiculous crap.

But I do know this feeling.

You are so incredebly good at expressions like this. You should make more comics, imo your strongest field.

Man something reminded me of when we opened up our chat group to those who showed up in a livestream.
And this one guy joined, think he was called Boomy or something, and he would NOT stop talking about his own character, like it got to the point where we had to come up with some excuse to get the hell out of the call.
because whenever we tried to add to the conversation it ended up him going "oh, cool, but Boomy is blah blah blah" and he'd carry on.
So I dunno, being a new person in a group can be daunting and scary, but just know:
If you aren't Boomy, you're gonna do fine kiddo!

Oh, I know that personality type too, years ago I had people like this coming to my stream. Thankfully now they don't, but that might have something to do with there being no audience to talk at either.

Sometimes I fear being that 'Boomy' so I'm afraid to tell anything about myself, I only do it when everyone else does that too :s

Exactly. You gatta sit back and observe, like is this chat about everyone or just you(or one person).

Actually the very usual turn of events is that I come in, people stop talking, then this completely new person starts talking about themselves and doesn't stop. D:

maybe they are just shy? i do not think that it is a problem with you.

PS your new sona is pretty.

Everyone? :s

But I'm shy too, approaching people is scary, that's why I try group chats (so those who don't want to talk to me don't need to feel bad for not responding).

maybe..why not. you know, internet chating has some inconvenience and concerns. you never know who is on the other side. that happans everywhere. do not condemn yourself. sometimes just need to be more assertive.

I know the feeling so much

Anxiety can be a pain, can't it? :<

It's not really anxiety, it's more just that unsettling feeling when everyone stops talking when you come in. Approaching people individually is much more scary.

Unfortunately it's pretty normal for many group chats - either people ignore you totally on larger ones, or they do that kind of "What are you doing here" on smaller group chats, when you arrive.

I'd LOVE to get to know more people, but as xolroc stated above, Anxiety is a bitch to deal with. That and I tend to attract some pretty weird creepers v.v the best thing you can do is to keep trying though! (Only if I could find group chats to join, lol)

!

I'm actually scared of approaching people too (only occasionally anxious tho) and I too attract very strange people. Not too many days ago I discussed about feeling like the majority of people are hyper emotional and can't control their temper (I find this an extremely scary trait aswell), but turns out it was only me who has experienced this is major numbers instead of just one or none x_x

Oh gosh... I ran into this the other day too >_< I had to work up all the courage I could to approach someone who was in my bf/s little skype group because hey... new face and my bf seemed to like them. So I add them and say a few words to them, proper greeting and all. That's been 2 weeks now? they haven't spoken to me since x.x (Okay, maybe not exactly what you experienced, but I imagine it gives the same feels.) And it feels like you're completely ignored even though you tried your best to break out of your shell for them and get repaid in silence. /sob

yep D:

Also the more time passes the scarier it becomes to approach the same person again aah

;o; So scary~ I'm glad others understand the feeling though~ Than you Maya, and others!

I get pulled into them, then talked over / ignored. It really just makes me go "Alrighty then." and exit.
Then, spammed a minute later "WHY'D YOU LEAVE ;__; "
Lol

It sucks, and I know perfectly how you feel :(

;n; awwwwww *patpat*

Some of my friends play Heroes of the Storm, and when I hop on the Mumble chat they're like "hey, if you can't contribute to the conversation, we'd like to keep the line open during our match. We like you bro, but..."
so I get this.

This is just how I feel too ^^ And am I seeing lizard there?

It's actually a snake (adder/kyy) x3

Oh yeah, look at that ^^ But almost lizard <3

making a snake anthro does make it look more like a lizard xD

Yep ^^

I know the feeling. That´s why I rather stay away from chats with no one I know in it. Otherwise it tends to get awkward for me pretty quick.

But how else do you make new friends tho? And what do you do when you're feeling lonely and none you already know is online? D:

I got better latley. Found a neat MMORPG, joined a nice Clan. Turned out they found my clumsy spoken English and my own brand of Humor adorable.^^

my group chat always welcomes everyone new with open arms, and paws xD

Every group chat I join is full of people saying hi back and asking me how im doing x3

I know the feeling. That's why I not like to talk too much in the streamings. They ignored you while they talking.

Don't worry it's nomal in furry community. 030
Anyway that's a cool comic. :)

Barely anyone says anything to me as well. I get bored, I wanna talk about ideas, hear thoughts, but seems like everyone is drifting away from me most of the time.

But I'm also to awkward. I dunno anymore.

Its an very normal thing that an new person in middle of conversation shuts everyone up :P

I'm not a new person in most cases tho ;_;

But i did mean like youre today's new person in chat :3

I ask myself the same question sometimes like in the description but it my opinion it's rather normal as messed up as it sounds. You put yourself out there yet they either give you a look, go quiet, ignore you, or worse, tell you to take a hike. Even groups that encourage newcomers don't even bother a lot of the times. And it's all for no reason..

Happens so much you eventually ask yourself why even bother.

No that's pretty normal, dude - I find I can't even hear myself think most of the time in group chats let alone respond!

I feel like that when I enter a stream. It just deters me from being more talkative...

Nonsense, ENTP should dominate ALL the grp chats! (The other participants must all be super lame? There's no other logical explanation...) XD

In that case... where do I find less lame people? D:

Why, that's easy! When everything goes silent you just ask which people aren't the super lame ones, and those people will make noise, and then you'll know. ^^

Well, you're fairly popular, and it's common knowledge that you're a hard-core fan of nipples; and that your art never features any nipples because you hoard them all to yourself, and add them to your super secret nipple stash (no need to deny or attempt to justify your actions; it's alright, we all understand!), so perhaps everyone goes quiet because they genuinely fear for the welfare of their nipples... Either that, or they don't know how to take your personality, so they simply say nothing to avoid potentially offending you? (even if you don't get offended, strangers won't know that).

Personally, I'm reasonably chatty if less than 4 others are talking, but the instant 4+ people begin talking, I stfu entirely! XD
Even at parties, I'll just wander off and do my own thing. Can't speak on behalf of everyone else, but I'm just not a crowd person.

xD

...

You're right that it's incredibly hard to offend me, but I dunno if that's the case. Those people in chats know me somewhat, so they know I can't be offended (or do they?) not sure how I present that side from myself.

I have a funny feeling that I know what inspired this.

Yes. Although it's likely you don't know all of the cases :D

i know those feels all to well

Don't take it to heart, group chats are casual. Sometimes it takes something big to get everyone going.

Heck i have a skype group where we're either yelling at each other playing games together, or sitting their in silence grunting (just so we can have someone else there? if you know what i mean).

I'd love to get to know you more and have chats :3

I don't, it's just it always happens! I'd like to get to know new people (you included) but everyone becomes silent as soon as I arrive D:

I'm on skype most nights feel free to add me. The username is the same as my FA :)

But I don't have skype anymore D: Laptop broke and it was confirmed to have spyware so I'd rather not have spyware on my work pc.
I use steam tho, if you have that :o

o_O damn viruses. My steam is Heartlilly ;)

It's not the same as virus - virus is intended to be malicious to your computer, but spyware means they gather information that you don't except them to (such as specific words you use, how much do you use them, they may also reach out to other software than just itself) and sell that information / use it themselves for targeted advertising and such things.

I know, i should of used the term Malware instead. I wrote that when i was half asleep.

but malware is another thing of it's own again xD (it's malicious software, spyware is just spying software it doesn't directly harm anything)

Well we use the term malware at my work. It covers anything thats harmful or invasive or unwanted. So spyware, adware, viruses, trojans etc, all come under that term for me.

Ah x3

I added you on steam btw

I've noticed it's very typical of communities, perhaps doubly so furry communities, to be very cliquish, When you enter the chatroom you're suddenly somebody else's problem to everyone there, because they're there to hang out with their friends more than they are the meet new people, in fact you're likely the only one there to meet new people, so everybody will just hope that somebody else will engage you and they can go back to people they actually no or you'll go away or something.

That's my theory on the matter anyways.

Probably, although in most cases (if not 90% of the times) this happens with people I know/who know me or sort of know atleast and of course theres the random new peeps (I don't generally join entirely strange chats or very small ones)

That last panel hurts my heart... trust me, if I was doing a group chat, you'd be more than welcome.

Maybe the problem is that I attend chats that aren't exactly hosted by anyone particular (or those people aren't present ever) so whoever is there first decides the atmosphere.

That does tend to happen in groups... the first people there set the tone. If they're 'protective' of their space, new comers are usually treated poorly.

Never been a fan of group chats... not due to situations like this tho.

Every. Damn. Time.

Oh how i get that so much....this is why i stick with my close circle of friends most of the time....

aww sorry to hear you have had this kinda experience D:

Hahahahahaha! I recently joined a local group chat... I know EXACTLY what you are talking about....

Oooh i know that feeling. or they are all talking about something, you dont feel comftable about.

Well, time to get the old group chat back up then, am I right?

But messenger is no more D:

I have my own irc server tho - unlimited groupchats if people would come there! and powerful enough server in my hands to host a million mumbles muhahah! x3

Getting the band back together? I like the sound of this.

if only I ever remembered to visit DA :'3

I don't think Ive ever been to chats in DA :o

I've been invited to them by reaaaaaaaaaally creepy people in the past tho and my general expression from DA is that it's full of the extremes of people, either creepy or stupid but then rarely also very professional (hard to find the ones that are nicely a bit of everything o_o)

Maybe I will (today I've had lots of people coming to say hi to me x33) And I do have a dragon character actually, several even - I've just not gotten to draw them or they're in progress. (One will be a new pillowcase and other will be a massive wall print tho~)

Tried to join today but apparently the chat works with flash so couldn't get in :/

Optional solution would've been to get 'deviantart chat extension' but the link leads to a page not found 3:

Never heard :o Throw me a link?

Yesh, this works! I'll be there next week at some point - atm I have a con to attend ^^

The rules are quite weird tho, but I guess it's cause DA is more for kids than matured people.

xD

That is exactly my problem v_v
oh i would love to talk all this people here on FA, or in groups who seem to be nice. But I'm simply not good in talking to people ö_ö

Socializing is my worst skill, but I'm extroverted and need it otherwise I might die so gotta try and try and then this happens ;_;

this is why i tend to stick to one on one conversations. much easier to keep it going.

I've figured that unless people start the conversation with me first, it's usually the same silence but double the awkwardness 3:

Plus with one on one you have to keep informing the person if you go somewhere, otherwise it seems that people get hurt for it, in groups tho it's less bad (and I spontaneously do go and do stuff and may forget what was going on the computer)

i know that feeling so well too many time's happen to me :/

People usually say hi back, but man, I always feel like I'm off to the corner of the group. I'm not too great at group chats, I get so nervous.

I nearly never get a hi back, if I do tho conversation usually gets going - it's just so rare :s

I'm the opposite with group and one on one chats, I get nervous with one on ones cause then I feel I must constantly be involved (a lot of people get hurt if I don't respond within a few seconds x.x)

Maybe you're joining more of those tight knit ones? I know some don't really want more people in, but a friend brings you in. I don't join many, but those were usually free for all so people were nice but...I could never contribute.

Haha ya, I feel totally fine with one! I guess it's because in groups there's so much going on and it keeps changing topic. But I feel most nervous when a friend, especially RL is there, not sure why.

Lately I've tried to join the open chats for local furs, since I'd like to make more rl friends to hang out with sometimes. In the past the same thing happened when I joined some streams too tho (unless the artist was someone I knew really well already). I think the issue is that nobody is moderating those chats I join, so whoever comes in first decides what the atmosphere is like/who is welcome and then I just get unlucky.

Also interesting that you feel nervous with rl friends in chats, I guess it depends on the person too. Then again I hardly know what it's like, most people I know is just online, or they might be online friends who I've met later, so they're kinda still online friends in a sense.

Ya, I'm not entirely sure why. I think it's because it's like they're watching me, how I act when not talking to them and it makes me nervous. That doesn't happy in person if I talk to others so no clue haha

I'm just gonna guess, but from some psychology lessons I recall something that fits. Maybe you like taking different roles when talking to different people? Apparently most people do that, and that actually helps social situations to go smoothly. Along side with that, people also like to assume 'roles' to other people in the present group and usually people take those roles even if it wasn't their 'favorite' way of presenting themselves. So if it was related to this you'd be feeling uncomfortable cause you're presenting a different role than with those rl friends (and it might feel like they'd judge you for being something different than they expect).

Nah, that's not it (but its true most people do that without realizing). How I act in the chat compared to acting with the friend wasn't any different really. I think it just feels like being watched, while in person it doesn't feel that way, it just feels like hanging out.

But to be fair, I've only been in a couple group chats so my feelings may just come from the overall shyness and newness of it.

:o

I only get that uncomfortable 'I'm being watched' feel if I speak about something personal with a friend when the conversation is on a platform anyone can join at any time.

MAYA

Come join my Telegram chat omfg

We're always talking in there lol

What does telegram mean? Assuming that's the subject?? o.o

But I'm intimidated by your icon D:

Oh gosh, Telegram is a newer chat app that came out recently.
You can look it up on Google. A lot of people like it because you can make your own emoticons (stickers) and it works very smoothly.

It's also available over phone and again, the internet.

If you'd like to try it out, you're welcome to join us!

(And the icon gives everyone very mixed feelings hahahah)

Does it run on browser, if so does it require flash? (I don't have flash) if not, is it available for linux? :'3

Now that I think of it, one thing I've yet to try is to just invite people to my irc server o.o (so far I only use it for stream chat)

yes it is available for Linux, no it doesnt run on browser, it's a program, and no i do not believe it needs flash

here's a link!
https://telegram.org/

_{From the first glimpse that looks really promising, on a second glimpse I notice they're doing false advertising - I'd rather they'd just be honest that when being closed software (or half open as they seem to put it) privacy cannot be guaranteed. Using the word free to describe themselves while not being free software is also apple level of advertising. I'm actually pretty intimidated by how this page screams 'we are suspicious'. I do prefer to only use free software, but the even more important factor is honesty (such as google does say they gather peoples personal information for advertising, that's not a nice thing to do but they're still good cause they're not hiding the fact.)}

Was gonna give this a try anyways since there was a browser version but wow I'm not going to give them my phone number o_O sorry..

I don't understad the part where they say this isnt a free service o.o

i've not had to pay anything to use it.

I didnt mind giving my number, simply for the fact that i dont have to give it out to people for them to find me (you're alble to set a username)

But you can at least say you gave it a look! sorry it is not for you :c

Free doesn't refer to no-cost, 'free software' is entirely open source and comes with a license that lets the user alter, share and run the the program without restrictions (free stands for freedom to do what you wish). Free software may also cost money and contain advertisements, but they rarely do for obvious reasons.

I can totally relate to this! I'm not a heavy chat room user, but on the odd occasion I want to have a lazy evening on chat to make some new friends, my "Hi" gets lost in the noise :P

Depends how busy the chat room is I guess? I know you're not alone anyway :3

Story of my life. love the art good job

my entire life has been exactly like that >.<

Oh I know this feeling too well. I do get a bit disappointed and sad when it happens but then I just think that maybe I just wasn't noticed. It does happen way too often, though, so I also come across a thought that maybe I seem scary to others. >,< I don't want to be scary and never mean to be like that if it's true. But yeah, I can relate, and I confess feeling a bit envious of people who seem to "get along" with everyone.

What I can say is that sometimes people just don't know how to act or then they're lazy saying "hi" to everyone (I might do this sometimes, oops). It's not always about the person coming in even though it might seem like it. Other reason can be that they're away or just leaving somewhere.

I don't think you're scary, I've actually got the opposite impression from you :o

Not entirely sure what you mean by people who get along with everyone (nobody gets actually along with everyone, ), unless it's those who just constantly agree on absolutely everything you say (even if you said two opposite opinions o_o!) - that atleast is a bit weird, those people rarely have anything interesting to contribute to the conversation tho since they just agree with everyone :s

I think it's not so bad when nobody answers back when a conversation is going on and on (then you can assume people missed it) or if there wasn't a conversation in the beginning (nobody is probably on), but when you join an active chat and everyone shuts up after saying hi..... that's intimidating D:

Heh, I've heard both opinions actually. ^^; It's really weird! But it's nice to know you've gotten a different impression~

And by getting along I meant people who just... I don't know, seem to be a great guy whenever you ask others what he/she is like. o,o I know a few of these people and they're really nice and have interesting things to say. However, when I think of what makes the person so great I'm not 100% sure. It's intriguing.

Yes, that's damn intimidating. >,< I wish I could guess what the reason behind those things are (I like giving insights into what is going on in different situations so it's a bit frustrating when I actually can't guess). All I can say is that in many cases people have nothing bad to think about the person. They just.. Get a bit surprised? Or then it's just about personalities: there's always that one guy who is very active to start talking with newcomers but also those that only talk if there's a real discussion going on (which means they won't take the time to just say hi). Just my two cents, I guess. ^^;

Ah you mean that kind of people, maybe it's just cause nobody has properly got to know them? So all everyone has to say is that they seem like a really great person I guess? Or maybe they just are always kind but never do anything exceptional that would make them properly interesting o.o

Aaww :(

The only group chats I'm in are ones where I know the peeps ^.^; I don't really join any random ones, so I don't really have issues, normally.

It's cause your too intense and awesome to speak to. They are at a loss of words.

literally every time i go into a group chat of any kind ugh
i know the feel way too well and its brought me to think everyone really just hates me and wants me to leave lmao

Yeah this happens all the time to me too unless i'm in the group chat from the start of it.
I hate when this happens cause then i'm just like "ok... guess not... -hides in anti-social corner again-"

I am THIS much the same. Even in RL. Welcome to the club...

I've never been in a group that responded like that before owo
usually people were pretty friendly and happy to have a new person in the group...well
sometimes anyway.

I'm not usually one for group chats unless it's with friends I know and then maybe
meet new people sometimes. I can be pretty anti-social and self-conscious so I'm not one to reach out

Been there a lot of times too :c

Sounds like it's time to make friends with better people :D

Well, I'm constantly trying to make new friends - that's why I go to chats. My close friends are most often not present at the times when I wish I had company :s

Yeeeeahh I hear ya DX I work so many hours in the week that I'm usually on for a brief moment in the latter hours of the day x.x Especially when trying to contact people in different time zones lol.

I most certainly know this sort of pain. And reading through the comments, I do realize that so many furries are horrid at just talking xD Can't go without saying though, this post definitely hits a personal level. Just, ah.. Yea. Stuff like this make it hard enough to me to be social, and it seems to happen more and more :/

No no, it's like that when you join livestreams/group chats. Everyone usually knows each-other and are all friends and talking, and then you join in and they all just kind of stop talking or get really awkward. :X
Happens to me a lot too.

OMG I THOUGHT I QS THE ONLY ONE!

Everytime I join a group chat that happens

Yeaaaah fuck group chats

I know that feel

I know that feeling. I usually avoid them

What chats do you join? Is it with completely random people? Sometimes if you join a channel in Teamspeak, people are silent cause they expect you to say who you are or anything else beyond "Hello folks". Or do they stay silent waaaaay longer than that polite pause? If you just search for somebody to chatter with you a bit, ask around here. If I'm not busy, I'm able to talk for hours. Especially while drawing or gaming.

I've recently tried to join open chats for the local furs alot (I'd like to make more rl friends ;_;), theres always a few somewhat familiar people present. I don't have the guts to join voice chats if there's someone I don't know oh god XD

And they're reacting with an awkward silence as well? That's strange :/ I wish I could talk to some people about art and stuff, since no one in my circle of friends does art or likes furry stuff or else. Then I'm in the situation of awkward silence xD A dozen people around, no one talking, since no one has any talent in arts at all and no one has an opinion, too. Sometimes you don't need just admirers, sometimes you wanna discuss things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But hey, I'm not the type joining random chats as well though I'm a pretty talkative guy. So that's perfectly normal, I think ;)

I've had lots of furry artist friends but after a while it just happens that we have nothing more to discuss since the only mutual subject is art. And then most artist 'personalities' are ones that I don't really get along with all that well either :s

I'd really like more friends who did art tho. I always wished art would be a job that had co-workers since they make the day easier.

Interesting, the few artists I've met got that problem, too. I switched topics and they go silent. When I'm playing Diablo 3 with my guild buds, we talk about every crazy shit, mostly not the game :P I would love to have art friends outside my home country, too, practising my English a bit. But since now besides a few notes nothing was build to last. At least you're not alone having some chat problems ;) Talkative or not, it always ain't easy.

What I've figured is that most artist are at least interested in completely different things in life than myself. Quite many are family oriented, most are fanatic about dogs, they play rpg's, they talk about drama and girly things, none of those subjects are very interesting to me nor can I really add anything to that sort of convos :s

What? Family-oriented? What do you mean? Talking about one's parents or about marriage things? Strange topics, indeed :x I can't really tell what topics I'm frequently using, since I can switch them fast. It's annoying to talk about things the others aren't really interested in, because it fastly gets a monologue :( Sometimes it's just enough to chatter about funny stories in live and such, laughing and joking. Sometimes it's discussing heavier issues and philosophy. Just as the mood swings.

Yeh, they talk about partners, kids, relatives, future with those things...

I like subjects like animals, psychology, tech (when it doesn't get too detailed) to name a few o.o

Ha, I know, but for me those topics are more common, since I've got many techie friends. But sometimes they go into detail I can't follow. Discussing artificial intelligence, for example. That's so interesting. I find it disturbing just to talk about getting kids and all. Doesn't make me feel good in a way. People expect me to talk about animals since I'm a vet :P Strange, I never got many people around talking about getting a family and stuff too much. Maybe it's a typical "womens issue". but the women I know don't do that either. Well, it would be totally stupid anyways, topics reserved for a gender :x

Well I've had both male and female peeps talking about family stuff and it's always equally weird to me, I generally respond that 'I just dream of breeding cats and seeing my kitty have kittens' and then they don't see it as the same thing at all ;_;

Well, actually it's kinda the same thing. Being responsible for newborn life. Easy as that. But sure, animal equality isn't a thing amongst those folks ;) And tell them they're just a bunch of animals, too. They're completely freaking out and tell you, that human babies are completely different and much cuter...yeah....cuter....suuuuure. Those Ubermommies and Daddies are totally on my ignore list :P

Actually most commonly it's cause there's apparently something special if the child is 'your own' and think I just don't know cause I think that doesn't matter. Actually lets just say the worst people are the ones who insistingly assume that I don't know how something feels etc. I view things more rationally than most people but that doesn't mean I lack feelings even if I sometimes hoped that'd be the case :s

No one's free of emotions and feelings, wether or not you wanna hide or supress them. It is ignorant to say someone has no feelings. But yes, if you like animals more than human children, you're strange in some peoples eyes. But that's their problem, not yours.

Yeah I know this feeling too. I often just sit there silently. Or I try to make a conservation if I can, but most of the times they just stay quiet. It's almost like you've interrupted a super ultra secret conversation &gt;.&lt;

Yeah I know this... :/

Usually when I enter group chats or calls I say hello and just sit quietly because I sit there and sort of get a read on how everyone is and what they like or don't like. I don't do well with groups larger than about 5 or more people because it's hard to get a word in edge-wise. I'm not easily offended or bothered by much. I'm a very mentally and physically solid person that doesn't waver under pressure of any kind, but when a group is more than 5 people that I don't know it becomes difficult to talk about anything because there's too much you don't know at all. This is extremely true when you have no one to introduce you and you're just a random add-on.

I usually prefer one on one conversations, but even I have trouble having conversations with people on my own list without starting the conversation and it feels forced to continue them at times. I feel like I'm always carrying the conversation on mostly because the other person doesn't know what to talk about. I also have the issue of asking, "What did you do today?" and getting, "Nothing much." When I ask I'm actually asking if you had college classes, did something new happen, you see something strange, what was different about today from yesterday, did you wait 20 mins in a line for pizza or really anything. I'm genuinely curious about how your day went and what stood out, but it's hard for people to even say anything. I have a habit of remembering all the little things that happen each day because it makes life more interesting when you question yourself about waiting 20 mins in line for a pizza and how everyone might be a little to close.. this one guy smells like a fart in the back and other stuff like that just so I don't get lost in the repetitive nature of life when it's actually different every day in different ways. Sometimes it's uneventful, but it happens. Sometimes stuff is just normal with nothing different about it, but even that is something to think and talk about.

I reflect a lot on little things, but at the same time I'm an introverted person by nature so I don't often share everything I'm thinking off the top of my head. Often times I just keep to myself for weeks, even months, at a time. Sometimes I'm quiet just because no one is expressing any sort of interest to communicate back with me. I'm rarely ever messaged to actually talk about something. It's often just a question about something business or work related for some and others I hear nothing from. If I didn't message them then I possibly would never hear from them. I enjoy talking to them, but it feels like a one-way street till I start up a conversation. It's.. tiring.

Communicating with other people is strange at times and within the furry community it seems to be difficult to get into smaller clicks of people without some scrutiny or predisposition against you just because of some level of caution and wariness. I'm open and super easy to approach online and in-person because I'm confident in myself to be able to walk away from something that is unfavorable, but the issue with group chats is that everyone is sort of going to filter you out with a wall at first and see if you stay after a while or how you react or behave as the new person in the group. There's usually unspoken rules in groups that are based on personal ticks and habits you have to learn if you want to fit in, or ignore to stand out at the risk of being disliked by some. A group of strangers is the hardest way to make friends, but talking to people individually usually makes things much easier.

There, here's a wall of unorganized, impromptu blabbering about all of the above. The tl:dr of it all is talking with other people and making friends is hard when you don't know anyone or you're finding people without some sort of know common interest in mind. You'd think being a furry counts as a common interest, but it's really not since it involves many different smaller interests within it that actually divides the community as a whole. It's like if you like watching Anime. Sure lots of people watch anime, but there are different levels of liking it as well as many different genres and styles of anime as well as reasons for liking it. Differences like that are the reasons why a lot of FA artists tend to know each other because the all draw art and share the common ground of doing commissions; however, artists that like the stuff they draw and share common themes usually are closer friends or are more familiar because their personal interests match even more than just two artists that do commissions. You need to find people with much closer interests to your own and like-minds to make good friends.

I actually fear one on one convos because it's likely I can't think of anything to say - finland doesn't teach smalltalk to people. I also might feel uncomfortable about telling things from my day cause normally people don't find the same things interesting, such as generally people are interested to know if you drank alcohol the same day but to me that's entirely dull and I'd rather point out how my cat was acting the day but I'll leave it out cause I know nobody gives a shit.

The group chats I've joined recently have had several familar people there, and everyne probably knows me a little (it's a chat in a forum where I'm pretty active at), but people still don't want to talk or greet me.

I really wish I had more artist friends, just a lot of times our personalities don't match. I'm not really the typical artist person, I'm extroverted, decide things with logic instead of feels and I don't quite live in the moment. Atleast I'm spontaneous and enjoy changes and new things. But that distances me from lots of peeps who might otherwise have similar interests, we just deal with them so differently and speak about things in completely different ways. I generally get on really well with techy people but then I have the lack of knownledge on that field.

But maybe today changed something, lots of really cool people approached me and we've had really fun convos. This comic was really the right thing to do ^^

It's always good to express yourself because you'll always meet better people when expressing yourself much more openly.

Had that happen in so many group chats! ><

The artist I now support, is the one who was friendly to me and the others in the stream chat were friendly to me as well! Tho that damn silence thing still happens in there now and again. But for the most part, not as bad.

know how it is , got really big anxiety myself

a relatable feel.....even worse is when you ask an individual person later what you did wrong and they insist youre fine but still it feels that everyones upset w you or ignoring you. and like for me personally im already kind of a recluse and its really hard to get myself to talk to people, then this kinda stuff happens and its that much harder afterwards

Yes, definitely that! I do actually quite often ask people what I do wrong and nobody just has the answer :s Thankfully not everyone just sais that I'm fine, some do actually tell that I'm a bit strange or 'not entirely sure'. Might as well start believing in auras and that mine is unsettling or so :I

I can totally relate to this.

Its so true it hurts...//lays down//

Yep. Happened to me too. lol

Every damn time...

This actually feels rather normal, at least from my experience. I just LOVE going into a stream or chatroom in general, and everyone is talking to everyone, but I try to talk or join in the fun and it feels like I'm being ignored. It gets especially upsetting when you see someone else join in right after you and they get treated the same way, or even more so when someone else joins, and because they are known they get a hi, or what's up, and you wonder what you did wrong? I dunno, maybe I'm overthinking it.

Side note, awesome depiction of what some of us are thinking and feeling! Really helps illustrate the point!

It's actually not so bad if the conversation goes us - then you can atleast join that even if someone didn't rememeber to greet you. But when everyone shuts up it really feels like they're waiting for you to leave so they can continue o_o

Yeah, that would be rather... Uncomfortable... I dunno, I've spent whole streams sitting in silence, because no matter what I say it seems like they are purposefully ignoring the fact that I exist. I've even seen others ignored the same way. Almost hurts a little more at that point.

If you had skype we have a big USFN XD group chat going on

Yeah that happens to me a lot as well.. .-.

If you have skype, you could add me, I'd never make you feel like you weren't invited to chat ^_^

That's one of the reasons why I prefer one one one chats more than group chats, that and it's easier to focus on a conversation with one person than with a bunch of people talking randomly.

I find one on one's really scary. Group chats work when people continue to talk about things and let me in instead of shutting up or turning the conversation to something I find disgusting etc.

That's true.

It is quite normal. Also, like the new avatar and fursona.

That had happened to me...a lot xD
Akward xD
Looks great btw n.n

Happens to me all the time x3

ugh I hate it when this happens =__=" I feel your pain ;_;
are you new to the group or have you been longer there? :o
and once again awesome art! I just love your style, it's so unique! ;w;

Usually majority of the people are who I know and who know me a little, but not enough to call friends. Sometimes there is a friend in there too (in that case that person normally does say hi but everyone else still keeps quiet). Thats cause Ive joined the open chats for local furs. Maybe I should try elsewhere xD

aah yes..I can so much relate to this :D and yeah look around and see if you can find better chats! I'm sure you will find something ^^

Any similarity to real or fictional persons living or dead is entirely coincidental.

Sounds about right tbh. Normally it means they are circle jerks and they dont feel like you're one of them yet. (In my experience since I know they know each other and watch them blow anyone else off unless they are funny or w/e)

But yes I feel your pain ;w;

You can always join the artist chat in F-list, it´s surprisingly welcoming :D

it's f-list tho, the place where everyone steals content from you and tries to pose as you + creepy stuff T_T

That´s odd, that´s never happened to me before, true, lots of people steal content but, that happens all over the internet, and you can put a barrier on the creepy stuff just by adding that as a note in your profile xD you should give it a try, if worse come to worse, you can just delete the account and forget it ever happened

I too hate this. I try approaching people but I feel like a burden, and don't want to come off weird. I do occasionally get people approaching me but if I haven't met them in person, they tend to get creepy and want roleplay or try to ask favors of me. >.>

This is the opposite of my experience in most places I've been to.

Tuttu juttu. :P

id say hi to her then be friends

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