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This is the Wilkinson Terry carbine. Derived from the J&R Engineering M68 it was manufactured to tap into the Law Enforcement, home defense, survivalist movement market of 70's and 80's. Developed in the late 1960's it never really gained much following and production ceased in the mid 80's. For what I understand it was a well made weapon.
It represents a class of weapon that is designed to fulfill many of the same roles that a submachine gun would while not being a true automatic weapon. At the time this weapon was being developed the concept of giving the police military-type weapons like assault rifles and submachine guns was considered radical and alarming to some people in the US. Enough years had passed that the "Roaring Twenties" was history and SWAT was in its infancy. Also there few manufacturers making semi-auto "Assault Weapons" for the civilian US. market. Therefore several manufacturers tapped into this market and developed firearms for it.
There was a pistol variant of the carbine called the Linda. Apparently Terry and Linda were the daughters of the company owner.
It represents a class of weapon that is designed to fulfill many of the same roles that a submachine gun would while not being a true automatic weapon. At the time this weapon was being developed the concept of giving the police military-type weapons like assault rifles and submachine guns was considered radical and alarming to some people in the US. Enough years had passed that the "Roaring Twenties" was history and SWAT was in its infancy. Also there few manufacturers making semi-auto "Assault Weapons" for the civilian US. market. Therefore several manufacturers tapped into this market and developed firearms for it.
There was a pistol variant of the carbine called the Linda. Apparently Terry and Linda were the daughters of the company owner.
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Looks great to me. I was especially surprised at how few of these were made. I thought there was more out there. Anyway, I especially like this gun's rugged and solid look to it. Not to mention with a sling like in the link it looks like a bad-ass beefed up pistol.
http://www.securityarms.com/2001031...../2100/2121.htm
http://www.securityarms.com/2001031...../2100/2121.htm
Actually, the few examples I've seen were pretty robust. I recall firing one, and it was comparable to the hoarde of pistol-caliber carbines that came around that time. Most were pretty forgettable. Actually, I've only kept two pistol-caliber carbines in my collection - the Uzi, and a Marlin Camp .45.
Yeah of the pistol carbines of the time it did not apparently try to cash in on the "We're just as cool as an Uzi!" act. Maybe that was part of its downfall. From second-hand sources I've heard that it might had problems feeding hollowpoint ammo which would've been a real detriment to the civilian/ law enforcement market. But then a lot of things at that time had trouble digesting hollowpoints. From what people have told me, whose opinions I respect, they were not bad carbines.
I have a shop owner here locally that has two of these in his inventory, plus a Linda pistol. He said the solution to feeding the hollow-point ammo is to open the feed ramp slightly by polishing it, and smoothing down the hard edges, also to polish the beveled edge of the chamber itself on the breechface. After that, hollowpoints fed flawlessly.
Wish I could afford one of these critters, but I spent less money on my 4WD truck than these carbines go for now. :P
Wish I could afford one of these critters, but I spent less money on my 4WD truck than these carbines go for now. :P
Yeah the Ruger 44 carbines are nice. I didn't consider them in this posting since with their limited rotary magazine capacity, 4 rounds I believe, they've been touted more as hunting firearms by the manufacturer. Good brush busters for deer at close range. I never saw anyone try to make a faux-tactical carbine out of one like folks did with the Marlin Camp Carbine. Heck more odd-ball stuff has been dangled off of Ruger 10/22's than any Ruger 44 would ever see.
Yeah; I'm surprised that nobody has made a ten round box magazine for the Ruger. About the only accessory on my carbine, is a Ruger 10-22 buttpad extension.
I don't know that the Marlin carbine is a faux-tactical carbine. It makes a lot of sense to possess a rifle that uses the same magazines as your carry gun, and this is definitely true of the carbine. Accuracy is acceptable, and magazine capacity between 7 and fifteen rounds is adequate for most purposes. ANYTHING can be a tactical carbine; check out http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1713005/ , that Browning Inglis sports a compensator and laser; not seen in the picture is the pouch with 3-32-rounders in it. :)
I don't know that the Marlin carbine is a faux-tactical carbine. It makes a lot of sense to possess a rifle that uses the same magazines as your carry gun, and this is definitely true of the carbine. Accuracy is acceptable, and magazine capacity between 7 and fifteen rounds is adequate for most purposes. ANYTHING can be a tactical carbine; check out http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1713005/ , that Browning Inglis sports a compensator and laser; not seen in the picture is the pouch with 3-32-rounders in it. :)
I don't know. Except for a Ghost Ring sight system with a tritium inserts and maybe a dot scope I don't see myself changing much on the Camp Carbine. The overall layout looks very much like the Ruger 10/22 and that works fine with me. Then again it would primarily be a truck/ camp gun for me. Maybe if decided to use it as a home defense gun I might look into a taclight on it, but I'm just not into making my weapons into "stereo equipment" to paraphrase a friend of mine. I guess I'm just old school that way. Rather spend the money on practice ammo and range fees.
It's drilled and tapped for see-under type mounts. The scope is a 4x Tasco Bantam, with a crosshair with a diamond around the outside. The scope is quite functional; at close range, your target fills the scope, making a miss unlikely, and at longer ranges, the scope provides for a faster sight picture. It's quite easy to use with both eyes open. Were I to mount a different scope on it, it'd probably be a small red dot scope with no magnification.
Yeah Aimpoint M2 or C-More would probably be just fine. Question. What is your opinion of using one of the pistol caliber Marlin lever actions like the 1894C for a similar type use? Yes I'd lose the ability for quick magazine changes but for most home defense/ camp scenarios if I need to fire more than eight rounds of anything I probably grossly misjudged the situation.
I was just thinking. I'd forgot to remember the lowly old US M1 Carbine. Especially now that Corbon is making JHP ammo for .30 Carbine it to would be valid choice for a home carbine. Of course I don't know if your dad could have one NYC. I have no idea what the gun laws are like in the Big Apple. Although it will be interesting whether DC vs Heller will have any impact on them.
Wow! I actually owned one of these back in the mid 80's. It was a sweet little shooter but had some flaws that were rather irritating. There are two Linda pistols here in town, one of which is unfired with the spare mag still in the wrap.
Back when I had mine, I used to shoot up all that old cheapo milsurp ammo out of Europe, but the faults inherant to the gun made it less fun, and I eventually sold it. If you want to research into some of the other pistol caliber semi's of the time, look up the Encom. I had one of those as well, but then they went and banned the high capacity mags it used, and I had to get it outta L.A., and into the hands of a L.E. official who gave it a good home.
I still have a copy of American Survival Guide with an article on the Linda/Terry weapons featured.
Back when I had mine, I used to shoot up all that old cheapo milsurp ammo out of Europe, but the faults inherant to the gun made it less fun, and I eventually sold it. If you want to research into some of the other pistol caliber semi's of the time, look up the Encom. I had one of those as well, but then they went and banned the high capacity mags it used, and I had to get it outta L.A., and into the hands of a L.E. official who gave it a good home.
I still have a copy of American Survival Guide with an article on the Linda/Terry weapons featured.
The main problem had to do with the placement of the firing pin in the bolt assembly, I seem to recall that it would become stuck in the rearmost area of travel. Upon purchasing the weapon, in an unfired condition, it would fail to load and or feed at times. I finally ramped/throated the beast with jeweler's rouge and some meticulous file work, which did help it a bit. I later added a hi strength firing pin spring and reworked the feed lips on the mags. It was a fun bit of plinkertech, but I'd sooner rely on rocks for personal defense.
Yeah, I've alway felt that if have put major grunt work into a weapon just to make it work, not make it work better, but just to get it to work then there better be a good reason for using it. Else just get something that works out of the box. Unless of course one is looking for a hobby-piece.
I'd have to agree there... Commercially, make it the best it can be or just mess with it, for god's sake don't offer it for sale and then expect it to work out (sound like Windows Vista??) Thats why when Kimber started to rule the 1911 market, companies like Springfield really picked up their quality, to at least try to compete, or be buried.
A so-so weapon is likely to get the owner or someone near them killed if it does not do what it designed to do, IE, shoot, accurately, when needed, and ya better make sure the safeties work....If you are a hobby gunsmith, then you are taking your life into your own hands, for the love of mike, be damned careful.
A so-so weapon is likely to get the owner or someone near them killed if it does not do what it designed to do, IE, shoot, accurately, when needed, and ya better make sure the safeties work....If you are a hobby gunsmith, then you are taking your life into your own hands, for the love of mike, be damned careful.
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