An Unkindness of COMMAS - Grammar Tutorial
I SUCK at commas big-time. I tend to pull a "Mark Twain"; I sprinkle them in…wherever to break up the monotony of the sentence. This article is my attempt to hammer the rules into my brain.
What the heck are Commas for, anyway?
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Besides abusing the sanity of the writer, the comma exists to help readers organize information in a sentence. It makes all the stuff the author is trying to say easier to swallow. Without them, sentence bits and pieces collide into one another causing confusion; rather like a train-wreck, though not nearly as exciting.
Just in case you’d like to know who made up all these comma rules, I got most of them from Strunk & White’s “Elements of Style” the grammar handbook used by every publishing house in America, and a few overseas. The rest came from my editors.
To get a good idea of how commas work, let's take a look at what they are supposed to do -- and some major screw-ups.
Doing it RIGHT
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1. Commas separate items in a series.
The werewolf had fleas, a couple of ticks, and a very slight case of mange.
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2. Commas separate two independent clauses connected by a coordinating conjunction (and, or, nor, but, so...,) and the comma goes IN FRONT of the word -- not behind it!
Several vampires were writhing on the dance floor, and a dozen more were scattered about the bar.
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3. Commas set off introductory clauses and phrases.
When the gargoyle crashed through the plate glass window, the housewife handed him the broom to clean up his mess.
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4. Commas set off non-restrictive (non-essential) clauses, phrases, and modifiers from the rest of the sentence.
A) The restrictive (essential) clause:
Two fallen angels, who frequently dangled from the church tower, were throwing rotten tomatoes at the gargoyles.
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B) Non-restrictive (non-essential) clause:
Chateau Dracula, located in the green hills of Tuscany, hosted the vampire prince’s inauguration.
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5. Commas separate descriptive modifiers of equal rank. If you can use your adjectives interchangeably and can put in an "and" between them, put the comma there.
The Court simply could not predict the next activity of the fickle, explosive vampire queen.
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6. Commas set off parenthetical expressions. (Stuff that could be put in parentheses, but isn’t.)
The werewolf council members, you may recall, voted themselves a thirty-five percent pay increase last year.
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7. Commas are used when the absence of a pause can cause confusion.
For the ghosts that haunted the chateau, moving the chairs around in the dining room was exhausting work.
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8. Commas are used to set off participle phrases that modify some part of the independent clause.
The Vampire Court adjourned, having successfully defeated the bill that would have taxed imported medical blood.
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Doing it WRONG
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1. DON’T use a comma to separate two independent clauses WITHOUT a coordinating conjunction. Doing this makes a “comma splice.”
WRONG: The inflation rate dipped to 3 percent, the unemployment rate stayed constant.
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a. Instead of a Comma, try using a semicolon(;):
The number of vampires dropped by 3 percent; the werewolf population rate stayed constant.
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b. Instead of a Comma, try using a coordinating conjunction (and, or, nor, but, so...,) with a comma BEFORE it:
The number of vampires dropped by 3 percent, but the werewolf population rate stayed constant.
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2. DON'T use a comma to introduce a subordinate clause. (Putting a comma before the word "because" is one of the biggest offenders.)
The vampire princess decided to visit the protest site because she needed a first hand report.
The vampire princess decided to visit the protest site (subordinate clause -- > because she needed a first hand report.
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But...! If the subordinate clause is being used to introduce the sentence, a comma does go at the end of the introductory phrase.
Because she needed a firsthand report, the vampire princess decided to visit the protest site.
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3. DON'T use a comma to separate a noun or pronoun from its reflexive. (When writing fiction, you shouldn’t be using reflexives anyway.)
The werewolf king himself will discipline the pack.
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4. DON'T use a comma between a word and a phrase to create a "false series."
Example of a confusing False Series:
-- The archeologists discovered seven bodies, six medieval knights, and one court jester.
(WOW! That’s a lot of bodies!)
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In proper perspective using an m-dash:
The archeologists discovered seven bodies -- six medieval knights, and one court jester.
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5. DON'T use a comma IN FRONT of a partial quotation.
The candidate for court wizard charged that the incumbent was "a charlatan of the lowest order."
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BUT...! If the quotation is a full sentence, you DO use a comma –- in front of it:
The incumbent for court wizard asked, "How would you like to spend the rest of your existence as a leaky pot?"
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For more on Commas, see:
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COMMAS - The (Not-So) Quick & Dirty Guide
by Erin Mullarkey, editor for Loose-Id books:
http://darkerotica.blogspot.com/200.....rty-guide.html
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Enjoy!
DISCLAIMER: As with all advice, take what you can use and throw out the rest. As a multi-published author, I have been taught some fairly rigid rules on what is publishable and what is not. If my rather straight-laced (and occasionally snotty,) advice does not suit your creative style, by all means, IGNORE IT.
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Ookami Kasumi
http://ookami-kasumi.livejournal.com/
An Unkindness of COMMASWhat the heck are Commas for, anyway?
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Besides abusing the sanity of the writer, the comma exists to help readers organize information in a sentence. It makes all the stuff the author is trying to say easier to swallow. Without them, sentence bits and pieces collide into one another causing confusion; rather like a train-wreck, though not nearly as exciting.
Just in case you’d like to know who made up all these comma rules, I got most of them from Strunk & White’s “Elements of Style” the grammar handbook used by every publishing house in America, and a few overseas. The rest came from my editors.
To get a good idea of how commas work, let's take a look at what they are supposed to do -- and some major screw-ups.
Doing it RIGHT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Commas separate items in a series.
The werewolf had fleas, a couple of ticks, and a very slight case of mange.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
2. Commas separate two independent clauses connected by a coordinating conjunction (and, or, nor, but, so...,) and the comma goes IN FRONT of the word -- not behind it!
Several vampires were writhing on the dance floor, and a dozen more were scattered about the bar.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
3. Commas set off introductory clauses and phrases.
When the gargoyle crashed through the plate glass window, the housewife handed him the broom to clean up his mess.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
4. Commas set off non-restrictive (non-essential) clauses, phrases, and modifiers from the rest of the sentence.
A) The restrictive (essential) clause:
Two fallen angels, who frequently dangled from the church tower, were throwing rotten tomatoes at the gargoyles.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
B) Non-restrictive (non-essential) clause:
Chateau Dracula, located in the green hills of Tuscany, hosted the vampire prince’s inauguration.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
5. Commas separate descriptive modifiers of equal rank. If you can use your adjectives interchangeably and can put in an "and" between them, put the comma there.
The Court simply could not predict the next activity of the fickle, explosive vampire queen.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
6. Commas set off parenthetical expressions. (Stuff that could be put in parentheses, but isn’t.)
The werewolf council members, you may recall, voted themselves a thirty-five percent pay increase last year.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
7. Commas are used when the absence of a pause can cause confusion.
For the ghosts that haunted the chateau, moving the chairs around in the dining room was exhausting work.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
8. Commas are used to set off participle phrases that modify some part of the independent clause.
The Vampire Court adjourned, having successfully defeated the bill that would have taxed imported medical blood.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Doing it WRONG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. DON’T use a comma to separate two independent clauses WITHOUT a coordinating conjunction. Doing this makes a “comma splice.”
WRONG: The inflation rate dipped to 3 percent, the unemployment rate stayed constant.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
a. Instead of a Comma, try using a semicolon(;):
The number of vampires dropped by 3 percent; the werewolf population rate stayed constant.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
b. Instead of a Comma, try using a coordinating conjunction (and, or, nor, but, so...,) with a comma BEFORE it:
The number of vampires dropped by 3 percent, but the werewolf population rate stayed constant.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
2. DON'T use a comma to introduce a subordinate clause. (Putting a comma before the word "because" is one of the biggest offenders.)
The vampire princess decided to visit the protest site because she needed a first hand report.
The vampire princess decided to visit the protest site (subordinate clause -- > because she needed a first hand report.
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But...! If the subordinate clause is being used to introduce the sentence, a comma does go at the end of the introductory phrase.
Because she needed a firsthand report, the vampire princess decided to visit the protest site.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
3. DON'T use a comma to separate a noun or pronoun from its reflexive. (When writing fiction, you shouldn’t be using reflexives anyway.)
The werewolf king himself will discipline the pack.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
4. DON'T use a comma between a word and a phrase to create a "false series."
Example of a confusing False Series:
-- The archeologists discovered seven bodies, six medieval knights, and one court jester.
(WOW! That’s a lot of bodies!)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In proper perspective using an m-dash:
The archeologists discovered seven bodies -- six medieval knights, and one court jester.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
5. DON'T use a comma IN FRONT of a partial quotation.
The candidate for court wizard charged that the incumbent was "a charlatan of the lowest order."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BUT...! If the quotation is a full sentence, you DO use a comma –- in front of it:
The incumbent for court wizard asked, "How would you like to spend the rest of your existence as a leaky pot?"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For more on Commas, see:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
COMMAS - The (Not-So) Quick & Dirty Guide
by Erin Mullarkey, editor for Loose-Id books:
http://darkerotica.blogspot.com/200.....rty-guide.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Enjoy!
DISCLAIMER: As with all advice, take what you can use and throw out the rest. As a multi-published author, I have been taught some fairly rigid rules on what is publishable and what is not. If my rather straight-laced (and occasionally snotty,) advice does not suit your creative style, by all means, IGNORE IT.
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http://ookami-kasumi.livejournal.com/
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I LIKE helping my fellow writers.
-- I've gotten quite sick and tired of all those self-help writing articles that aren't actually helpful at all. On top of that, I've been seeing a lot of DIS-information being spread among the furry & fan-fiction writers.
I'm posting these articles for those who want to take their writing further. Those happy with the current way they write are more than welcome to ignore me.
-- I've gotten quite sick and tired of all those self-help writing articles that aren't actually helpful at all. On top of that, I've been seeing a lot of DIS-information being spread among the furry & fan-fiction writers.
I'm posting these articles for those who want to take their writing further. Those happy with the current way they write are more than welcome to ignore me.
I suck at commas too.
This line is just fine.
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Personally, I wouldn't do it, but you could if you want to.
"Personally," is an introductory clause, and "but" is supposed to have a comma before it, so both commas are exactly where they need to be.
This line is just fine.
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Personally, I wouldn't do it, but you could if you want to.
"Personally," is an introductory clause, and "but" is supposed to have a comma before it, so both commas are exactly where they need to be.
Hmm, this is quite interesting because I don't have nearly the problems with commas that most people have. A resource that I would reccomend to anyone who writes anything, fiction or non-fiction, is either the Brief Penguin Handbook or the DK Handbook. Both of these books are very good references, not only for commas, but for all types of punctuation and structure.
Those are excellent references!
These are the references for grammar one of my editors recommends:
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Strunk & White's Elements of Style - this is a great little book that no writer should be without.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Easy Writer - It’s a great quick reference with easy-to-understand language. It gets to the point quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Allyn & Bacon - this was a college textbook on composition.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Eats, Shoots & Leaves - a must-read. It’s hilarious and gets the point across clearly.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Chicago Manual of Style - Loose Id books has adopted this as its style manual. This is the definitive manual on anything you could possibly need to know about grammar and style.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
The absolute best online help source, the Purdue Online Writing Lab, has tons of interactive exercises:
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/interact/
Twenty common writing errors and explanations of the rules:
http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/lun.....rd/twenty.html
Another really fun grammar site is The Elements of Phyle:
http://members.aol.com/kipler/grammar.html
These are the references for grammar one of my editors recommends:
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Strunk & White's Elements of Style - this is a great little book that no writer should be without.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Easy Writer - It’s a great quick reference with easy-to-understand language. It gets to the point quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Allyn & Bacon - this was a college textbook on composition.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Eats, Shoots & Leaves - a must-read. It’s hilarious and gets the point across clearly.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
Chicago Manual of Style - Loose Id books has adopted this as its style manual. This is the definitive manual on anything you could possibly need to know about grammar and style.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t.....p;amp;n=507846
The absolute best online help source, the Purdue Online Writing Lab, has tons of interactive exercises:
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/interact/
Twenty common writing errors and explanations of the rules:
http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/lun.....rd/twenty.html
Another really fun grammar site is The Elements of Phyle:
http://members.aol.com/kipler/grammar.html
Use this link, it's easier:
http://darkerotica.blogspot.com/200.....of-commas.html
http://darkerotica.blogspot.com/200.....of-commas.html
Use this link, it's easier:
http://darkerotica.blogspot.com/200.....of-commas.html
http://darkerotica.blogspot.com/200.....of-commas.html
If you really wanna look for published errors, try DJ Robb. She head-hops all over the place AND uses illegitimate 3rd person POV. A great many suspense novelests write their Reactions BEFORE the Actions that cause them, (look for the word "as", and Laurell K Hamilton's books after "Obsidian Butterfly" don't even have a plot.
Hey, me again, late on the draw this time. :P
I like this guide. See, I've always had an instinctive feel for commas, but not once have I been shown actual rules for them. I just kinda absorbed my style from all the reading I did as a kid, I guess. I'm rather elated to find I've been following the rules pretty closely all this time! Just a few little wrinkles to iron out that come to mind.
What I HAVE had trouble with is learning how to use a dash. I have never just used one without really really thinking about it first, it never feels right. Semicolons, colons are also sketchy.
The ellipsis (...) I used to abuse horribly. Now I'm wondering when, if ever, is a good time to use it!
One little thing: What is the deal with reflexive pronouns anyways?
I like this guide. See, I've always had an instinctive feel for commas, but not once have I been shown actual rules for them. I just kinda absorbed my style from all the reading I did as a kid, I guess. I'm rather elated to find I've been following the rules pretty closely all this time! Just a few little wrinkles to iron out that come to mind.
What I HAVE had trouble with is learning how to use a dash. I have never just used one without really really thinking about it first, it never feels right. Semicolons, colons are also sketchy.
The ellipsis (...) I used to abuse horribly. Now I'm wondering when, if ever, is a good time to use it!
One little thing: What is the deal with reflexive pronouns anyways?
I'm glad you liked this guide!
-- Unlike you, I have absolutely NO talent with commas at ALL. Worse still, NONE of my four publication editors agrees on where to put the gosh darned things!
What I HAVE had trouble with is learning how to use a dash.
Well, I'm not surprised because a dash (-), or hyphen, is Not used for anything but to connect words: blue-green, vomit-yellow, midnight-blue.
The em dash, on the other hand (--) IS a form or punctuation. They're used for emphasis or interruption -- stuff that Could be in parenthesis, but isn't.
Example:
The em dashes is so called because they are -- at least historically -- the width of the character m.
This is especially useful when the phrase comes at the End of a sentence.
Example:
Many professional assassins seek help from alchemical sorcerers — magicians who specialize in potions and talismans.
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Semicolons & colons are also sketchy.
A semicolon is used to connect a half-sentence to a whole sentence.
Example:
One way to find a sweetheart is to post a profile on an internet dating service; another is to wait and see what the cat drags in.
Colons are strictly for lists at the end of a sentence.
Example:
When I buy oil paints, the colors I choose are very specific: cadmium red, burnt-ocher yellow, titanium white, black, and a really, really dark blue.
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The ellipsis (...) I used to abuse horribly. Now I'm wondering when, if ever, is a good time to use it![/i]
An ellipsis is for missing words, or replaced words -- NOT PAUSES!
Example: Missing Word
Well, what I really meant to say was... Oh, forget it!
Example: Replaced word
Without her panties on, I could easily see her fuzzy, juicy, and delicious...peach.
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[i]What is the deal with reflexive pronouns anyways?
A reflexive pronoun is any word that ends in -self: yourself, myself, himself, herself, itself, ourselves, themselves.
Example:
The vampire bit himself.
The succubus admired herself in the mirror.
The problem with using them is that it's very difficult to NOT be REDUNDANT, ahem, repetitive.
Example:
The lamia gussied herself up. <-- REDUNDANT
The lamia gussied up.
The werewolf was himself a hair club member. <-- REDUNDANT
The werewolf was also a hair club member.
Redundancy is the most common mistake one encounters with Reflexive Pronouns, so one should avoid them unless it's absolutely, positively necessary.
-- Unlike you, I have absolutely NO talent with commas at ALL. Worse still, NONE of my four publication editors agrees on where to put the gosh darned things!
What I HAVE had trouble with is learning how to use a dash.
Well, I'm not surprised because a dash (-), or hyphen, is Not used for anything but to connect words: blue-green, vomit-yellow, midnight-blue.
The em dash, on the other hand (--) IS a form or punctuation. They're used for emphasis or interruption -- stuff that Could be in parenthesis, but isn't.
Example:
The em dashes is so called because they are -- at least historically -- the width of the character m.
This is especially useful when the phrase comes at the End of a sentence.
Example:
Many professional assassins seek help from alchemical sorcerers — magicians who specialize in potions and talismans.
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Semicolons & colons are also sketchy.
A semicolon is used to connect a half-sentence to a whole sentence.
Example:
One way to find a sweetheart is to post a profile on an internet dating service; another is to wait and see what the cat drags in.
Colons are strictly for lists at the end of a sentence.
Example:
When I buy oil paints, the colors I choose are very specific: cadmium red, burnt-ocher yellow, titanium white, black, and a really, really dark blue.
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The ellipsis (...) I used to abuse horribly. Now I'm wondering when, if ever, is a good time to use it![/i]
An ellipsis is for missing words, or replaced words -- NOT PAUSES!
Example: Missing Word
Well, what I really meant to say was... Oh, forget it!
Example: Replaced word
Without her panties on, I could easily see her fuzzy, juicy, and delicious...peach.
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[i]What is the deal with reflexive pronouns anyways?
A reflexive pronoun is any word that ends in -self: yourself, myself, himself, herself, itself, ourselves, themselves.
Example:
The vampire bit himself.
The succubus admired herself in the mirror.
The problem with using them is that it's very difficult to NOT be REDUNDANT, ahem, repetitive.
Example:
The lamia gussied herself up. <-- REDUNDANT
The lamia gussied up.
The werewolf was himself a hair club member. <-- REDUNDANT
The werewolf was also a hair club member.
Redundancy is the most common mistake one encounters with Reflexive Pronouns, so one should avoid them unless it's absolutely, positively necessary.
Thanks a lot! And man, have I ever wondered about the two different kinds of dashes. Microsoft Word loves to just choose what kind you get for you, and it annoys me sometimes. Now I know!
Ellipsis, I can think of one perfect spot for that in something I'm working on right now, so thanks!
Reflexive Pronouns, hmmm... So, "their own" is not a reflexive pronoun situation?
Ellipsis, I can think of one perfect spot for that in something I'm working on right now, so thanks!
Reflexive Pronouns, hmmm... So, "their own" is not a reflexive pronoun situation?
Glad I could help!
So, "their own" is not a reflexive pronoun situation?
Actually, it is, AND it's redundant because 'Their' and 'Own' mean pretty much the same thing. I would use 'their' alone.
Example:
The gargoyles wanted to use their own songs at the karaoke bar.
The gargoyles wanted to use their songs at the karaoke bar.
So, "their own" is not a reflexive pronoun situation?
Actually, it is, AND it's redundant because 'Their' and 'Own' mean pretty much the same thing. I would use 'their' alone.
Example:
The gargoyles wanted to use their own songs at the karaoke bar.
The gargoyles wanted to use their songs at the karaoke bar.
I had a college professor in writing that really hated commas, even in legitimate usage. If he didn't like you (and he hated me because I was somewhat of a perfectionist) he would find convoluted ways to turn commas into massive point loss. "This comma should be a period, -2; now both these sentences are fragments, -2, -2; now this needs to be capitalized, -2..."
As a final farewell, the exam was a one-page essay, and without warning us, he docked 8 points at the end for every single occurrence of the word 'is.' Those were fun times.
I've been careful with commas and passives ever since, but I still occasionally abuse them, especially when I get lazy.
As a final farewell, the exam was a one-page essay, and without warning us, he docked 8 points at the end for every single occurrence of the word 'is.' Those were fun times.
I've been careful with commas and passives ever since, but I still occasionally abuse them, especially when I get lazy.
The ellipses (...) has been strangely used since ever since people started seeing them in mangas -- especially scanlated mangas. It has to do with the Japanese way of indicating a pause. They don't have commas so they use a series of dots. The other common use for (...) is to fill a blank dialogue bubble.
It doesn't help when those translating from Japanese to English don't know what the ellipses is actually for and leave all those dots in -- just because they were there.
This has caused a LOT of confusion in the fan-fiction writing circles who want to emulate the manga style, but don't actually read Japanese so they don't understand what they're seeing.
For your personal reference:
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An ellipsis is for missing words, or replaced words -- NOT PAUSES! And there are only THREE dots. No more, no less.
Example: Missing Word
Well, what I really meant to say was... Oh, forget it!
Example: Replaced word
Without her panties on, I could easily see her fuzzy, juicy, and delicious...peach.
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A semicolon is used to connect a half-sentence (a fragment) to a whole sentence.
Example:
One way to find a sweetheart is to post a profile on an internet dating service; another is to wait and see what the cat drags in.
It doesn't help when those translating from Japanese to English don't know what the ellipses is actually for and leave all those dots in -- just because they were there.
This has caused a LOT of confusion in the fan-fiction writing circles who want to emulate the manga style, but don't actually read Japanese so they don't understand what they're seeing.
For your personal reference:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
An ellipsis is for missing words, or replaced words -- NOT PAUSES! And there are only THREE dots. No more, no less.
Example: Missing Word
Well, what I really meant to say was... Oh, forget it!
Example: Replaced word
Without her panties on, I could easily see her fuzzy, juicy, and delicious...peach.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A semicolon is used to connect a half-sentence (a fragment) to a whole sentence.
Example:
One way to find a sweetheart is to post a profile on an internet dating service; another is to wait and see what the cat drags in.
Aye, thank you. I should know these things, though a refresher is welcome. I tend to abuse them anyway without thinking. >..<
Looking forward to reading the rest of your tutorials and such, should help me improve I think, or at least maybe give me some ideas on new things to try.
Looking forward to reading the rest of your tutorials and such, should help me improve I think, or at least maybe give me some ideas on new things to try.
I'm glad I could help!
Consider the tutorials things to experiment with. Not all of my methods may work for you. I tend to be very...logical and systematic in my techniques with a strong leaning toward Visual writing rather than Emotional writing. That's not always conducive to creative writing.
Consider the tutorials things to experiment with. Not all of my methods may work for you. I tend to be very...logical and systematic in my techniques with a strong leaning toward Visual writing rather than Emotional writing. That's not always conducive to creative writing.
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