I don't blame you man. Assholes killing in the name of religion doesn't make them any holier then the next murderer on death row or rapist

Truth!

Don't worry, Jim. I think it gets the point across.

No he wouldn't as he himself led wars to forcibly convert those who didn't believe.

So did Moses.

Agreed. The closest thing to an organized religion I follow is a belief in Murphy.

Incorrect. Moses and Joshua were instructed by God to be a vehicle for divine judgment on the Canaanites with the intended goal to drive them out of land of Israel which God was giving to the Jews for his salvific purposes. It was never about a conversion campaign. The goals of Jihad and the goals of the conquest of Canaan are completely different. The former is universal and continuous in scope while the latter was a specific historical incident with limited scope and context.

Yup, sure thing.

"God said to do it."
The point is they murdered all the men and boys of a rival tribe, then murdered all the non-virgin women, then took the virgins as sex slaves.

I don't give a shit if "God said so" or not.
This was tribal warfare at it's worst, "justified" by claiming "God said so."

The Nazis claimed "God Said so."
Eric Rudolph said "God said so."
The 9-11 terrorists said "God said so."
The Paris terrorists said "God said so."

We as a people no longer let people claim "God said so," most of the time for heinous acts.

Then you`re off or terrible at reading. His teachings and what he did is bloody and violent. Any violence is justified by his teachings so long as it furthers Islam it even says so in the Quran. Those teachings were never retracted even by those who followed him later as the leaders of the faith. Furthermore his tolerance of other religions was only until a point were he could subdue or destroy. The Muslim religion in its very definition means submission, they say it means peace but to them only by submitting to Allah can one know peace.

And as far as being a teacher I call bull shit, anyone can claim that.

Have him post here, or cite some work of his if yea like. I'm not going to go dig to support your argument.

"The same could be said of all faiths, Good Hunter. But enough talk! *smashes goblet* have at thee!"

Given that -Islamic- sources tell us that Mohammad personally slaughtered and beheaded his enemies and engaged in numerous acts of violence and that Qur'an exegesis of the Surah 9 and others reveals that the mandates for violent Jihad and compulsory conversion were intended to be universal in their application, I would not be so sure.

https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg

Yeah, lets look at some facts. Also the idea even non isis groups talk about freedom is nothing, Allah is everything.

I don't really know. Mohammed's later teachings in the Quoran were much more hateful and violent compared to his earlier teachings. ISIS is going by a strict interpretation of Mohammed's later teachings, and believe anything he said later superceeds his earlier sayings.

To add to this, Islam is not a religion of peace, and has never been one. However, the Islam of today is different than it was during the original caliphate of the middle ages. Back then, Islam produced lots of scientific advancements. These days, the relatively minority radicals are managing to control the religion, and turn it into something that wants to control the world and make it primitive.

Islam is not a religion of peace, and has never been one.

Neither is Christianity yet people would still try to have us believe that converting people and "praying the gay away" is good while others then say they're not true christians.

saying islam is not a religion of peace and that all muslims are terrorists would be like saying all Christians are pedophiles.

These days, the relatively minority radicals are managing to control the religion, and turn it into something that wants to control the world and make it primitive.

sounds like another religion I know.

Jesus said himself "Do unto others as you would yourself. " he also said "Judge not lest yea be judged in the same manner." And said "What you do for the least of you, you do for me."

Now I'll admit Christians don't get these right on a daily basis, however most Christian followers try and the majority don't wage an active war vs those who are not. As a rules they do not support murder, Islamic teachings do, anything is allowed so long as it furthers Islam. Lying, cheating, murder, rape, slavery, are just a few tools that are still used widely by Islam and most Muslim followers feel it is justified.

https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg

I do apologize but to me Christians are not any better than daesh

Daesh?

ISIL

She supports the politically correct position that Christians are evil and that most of Islam is good.

Actually those advancements came from other folks, just anything taken by Islam is considered Muslim owned forever, and any history of that region from beforehand is considered a dark time not to be spoken of. They are the group that sacked and burned the library of Alexandra.

This reminds me of how I interpret "Thou Shall Not Take the name of the Lord Thy God in Vain." It goes like this: Anyone who uses the name of God as a reason for anything that involves violence, terror, bigotry, and hatred will be judge for that act of blaspheme and will perish with both a physical and spiritual death.

Great comic btw.

I heard that same explanation from a Protestant priest I met at a miniatures wargaming event.

Shouting "God damn it!" to relieve stress is not taking the Lord's name in vain. It's vulgar and uncouth, but it's not a sin.

The Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition are two big examples of what *IS* taking the Lord's name in vain: using God as an excuse to justify the unjustifiable.

If it seems wrong to do something 'just for kicks,' it's wrong AND a sin to do it 'because God personally told me so.'

Bunch really angry people being angry for no valid or logical reason. Radical Islamist tag line right there.

I always wonder how did the religions that teach peace and love end up with very violent people, especially those who think violence is the answer.

It's like I always say: he who brings violence is only bringing to himself.

The truth is it really doesn't have much to do with religion. That's just what the leaders in power of these groups use to sell their poison to the idiots who strap bombs onto themselves and to the ignorant jackoffs who get recruited online. At the end of the day its about power, these men want to take over all the oil rich and financially viable zones in the region and carve themselves a country out of blood with a brainwashed army to keep themselves safe.

Like about 80% of wars, its really economic, everything else is either a secondary objective or just something they use to sell to the people who allow themselves to be nothing more than wind up toys to the pupper masters behind the scenes.

But if it is about economics, why bring in the religion then? Heck, Jesus destroyed a group of money changers at the Temple of Solomon while saying "Scripture says this is a House of Prayer. You've turned it into a Den of Thieves." This shows that God doesn't care about money and trying to gain riches and land contradicts what many of deities have said about money.

The power-hungry use religion for the same reason they use everything else -- to manipulate and control those whose actions will get them what they want.

They used the name of Islam and Allah as an excuse, a pathetic excuse to wage their war. They needed to create their ideology to gain a wider and more profound impact. And it worked; it worked on the weak minded, the poorly educated and basically losers without ties to communities, without power, without direction in life...only bunch of people with absurd ambition, a lust for power, no morals or conscience and utter hate for humanity.

Actually if you read the Koran, which was written in Mohammed's lifetime (he's a documented historical figure), it's pretty much all in there.

I especially like where it specifically says all infidels (polytheists, such as wiccans, for example) must specifically convert or die, everyone else just has to submit and pay the tax.

Actually there is a portion (I cant remember where though) that says a good Muslim must shelter and give aid to anyone, including those of different faiths.

Its actually what helped save a US soldier's life when local villagers in Afghanistan gave him shelter, and aid when he was injured, despite the Taliban threatening to slaughter them all if they didn't hand him over.

If you're a monotheist, if you believe in more than one got, you're not people.

Well then you better stop believing in the Holy Ghost, Jesus as the messiah and the Devil. Christianity has deified each, making it polytheistic.

God, the holy ghost and Jesus are all the same thing. And as for the devil he is an outcast angel not a god, and Christians do not worship him.

by giving him a name and blaming him for all the worlds problems, they certainly do.

Umm, I don't blame Satan for all the worlds problems. So before you speak for me get my permission. ; p And you don't worship something by blaming it for problems. Your statement is rather odd to claim that.

I meant to Islam ma'am, and I don't believe in any of those things, as a Jew. Maybe take comments in context though, it makes you appear far less asinine.

If you're a monotheist, if you believe in more than one got, you're not people.

that is your comment is it not, sir? if you didn't mean any monotheistic religion then I should suggest saying what you mean not mean what you say.

Read the initial comment, it's in response to someone pointing out a passage where the Koran says they have to help people, when I pointed out that it says all "infidels" IE pagans are to be killed. I know, scrolling up and context are hard.

No, the previous comment doesn't matter since I am not addressing the previous comment. I am addressing you.

This reply is for Vyxxn, who apparently though 32 years old, and allegedly an writer, does not understand context in conversation, then blocks people who don't even really disagree with her? I don't know.... the fucking world makes no sense to me now. I am getting old... I swear.

I'm honestly asking, is english not your first language? I don't give a shit what or IF god or gods people worship, the original comment explained that Islam, a religion of 'tolerance and peace' specifically commands its followers to murder anyone who won't convert that is not a christian or a jew, approx 1/3 of the world, btw. Someone replied pointing out that there's a passage in the Koran about giving aid and shelter to anyone in need (similar to the parable in the bible about hospitality), and thus I replied that muslim's don't consider pagans to BE people. If I made that statement completely out of context then your reply would make sense, but I did not make it out of context, it was in the context of a larger conversation.

So what about me are you addressing exactly? Like, honestly, you're not making a lot of sense here.

Fun Fact: most of what ISIs and other terrorists do is considered sin by the Quran. So they are actually all heretics only buying their tickets o hell harder with every act they take. Yet they claim to serve their God loyally.

That always puts a smile on my face. If there is a hell, then they will be reminded of their sins for all eternity, and hopefully be punished by suffering all the pain that they inflicted upon others for every single second of that eternal punishment.

Well, they'll have good company and they can join so many crusaders crying 'But we did it for God/Allah'.
If the crusaders are still in denial after a thousand years. Id not thy might tell the new arrivals 'don't bother you'll be here for a while, like forever'.

Actually its not, later parts of the Quran remove those restrictions vs non Muslims and eve then if you're not the right sect of Muslim it doesn't count either as earlier parts and rules are overruled by later sections. That's why Shites and Sunies fight and kill each other since when Muhammad died he left no male hier so they divided by who they thought should lead the religion. One was Muhammad's best friend, the other was a commader in his army.

Reidon, are you a Muslim? or have a degree in Islamic studies?

No?

Then what makes you an expert on Islam?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Top-10-Reasons.htm

That 'Free Will' thing ya know?

I'm more inclined to thinking the entire damn 'Dios', whatever it/they may be, are sitting wherever they sit, making bets and taking numbers, just watching to see what other sort of BS we humans can get into.

That makes more sense to me, than any 'God' actually taking a stand and, ya know, STOPPING the shit.

(Reminds me of too many of the 'Parental Figures' I see in stores/public, blithely ignoring their rampaging brats who are doing their damnedest to make every OTHER adult in the vicinity, utterly disgusted with their lack of discipline.)

As with the crusades, there is only one instance that decides if they are martyrs or simply murderers. No matter what a Pope or Iman says.

Getting into the detail, you could even argue that these Imans ursurp the position of Prophet, which is heresy in itself. Muhammad was the last prophet that brought the word of god.

Besides, most muslims have already denied ISIL being muslim.

I got the message just fine. As for the artwork... Meh. It works. I don't expect absolute perfection from art that you didn't spend hours or even days planning.

Ive read the Koran. There's nothing in there about blowing ones self off for a ticket to heaven. Dying as a martyr yes but, that's one man standing against an army to protect his people and family. people. Or country.

The world is so strange... and what your cartoon says is true.

V.

"Can't you at least get them to grow out of *your* Old Testament?"

Those Christians haven't been stoning people for their poly/cotton blends again, have they?

No, Jesus should be saying that to Mohammed.

Ah, gotcha!

I believe in ACTIONS, not words. And evidence presented so far would indicate that Islam is not a religion of peace & they are doing exactly what their religion demands of them. Spreading, unrestricted breeding, & killing the non believing infidels. The moderates job is to migrate to non Islamic lands and "breed" themselves into the majority, while the radicals job is to "kill infidels" or any Muslim who is not of the same sect. Anyone who thinks that Islam is a peaceful religion is just lying to themselves. Europe's days as a western culture are numbered. Soon, they will be forced by the peace loving, gentle Muslims to bend over to their new god, or die.

Wow, you have a really low opinion of Europeans. Which is weird cause that is home to some of the best equipped and most dangerous armies in the world.

Not least of which includes the French, English, Russians and of course the Czechs and Slovaks, and the Finns would just laugh that idea right out of the hall while the Swedes watched... And waited.

I don't have a low opinion of Europeans. I just think they are foolish for allowing Muslims to come in unrestricted, set up their little no-go zones, & start bossing non Muslims around, yelling at British to cover up and wear the Islamic beekeeper suits. As for the European Military, what does that have to do with anything? We have the most powerful Military on earth. But because of spineless politicians and ineffective policies, our military is rendered ineffective. (what point if having the biggest stick on the block if you are unwilling to use it effectively?) You also forget that the mighty European military did nothing to protect the thousands of UK girls that were raped by Muslim grooming gangs as authorities stood by and did nothing because they were afraid of being called racist. And anyone who dares point out what Muslims are doing is quickly labeled a racist or islamophobe.

http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/3576/full

Yes, because as we all know, every nation which has opened their borders to immigrants has been destroyed by those immigrants- Oh wait, except for, you know, the U.S....

But I mean, you're still right about muslims coming in and suddenly dictating what everyone else is doing despite having no political power and being totally out numbers- Oh wait, yeah that doesn't happen either.

Well, we still know that spineless politicians drafting ineffective policies are weakening our military. After all, we all know how fragile and easily destroyed our military is- Look I think you're getting the idea here.

As for the grooming gangs, I do need to look into that more, but given you're citing an article from Standpoint I'm gonna go out on a limb and call sensationalist bullshit. I'm sorry but it's just impossible to trust right wing publications, if the shit ain't made up then it's probably exaggerated to the point it might as well be.

Also, there is no European military, that's not a thing, and most military's in the world aren't police forces if they're not outright restricted from operating domestically. But the point is muslims aren't going to take over Europe militarily, And you have to be talking about that because a cultural shift towards a muslim majority in Europe is so laughable you'd have to be huffing a catastrophic amount of paint fumes to worry about it.

*Nods* Indeed.

I really like what you did here. With all that is going on, many people just lash out at ALL Muslims but this recognises at least that these are extremists (people that claim to follow a religious text but instead use it to spread their hate) much like there are Christian extremists that do horrible things in the name of Christ.

Even the Bible has some nasty parts in it that regular Christians don't support/follow today. We don't stone people for believing on other gods or our children for disobeying us or our neighbors for working on Sunday etc. Most Muslims are just like most Christains and we shouldn't attack everyone for the wrong doings of the few.

Sorry Wookie, but that's a myth https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg.

And the reason we don't follow the earlier teachings is Jesus set new laws that retracted the vast majority of the old. Muhammad as he continued to teach only became increasingly more violent.

A lot of BS in that video but believe what you want. Remember there was a shit ton of polls saying Romney was going to win the election by a landslide too. I am looking at what Muslims here in north America are actually practicing rather than what some poll is saying and it is not sharia law just like I am not seeing Christians stoning their neighbors for working on Sunday.

Old testament on the last part, but notice in the video that by estimates that only 500k agree with those practices in the middle east for Muslims. Lets say the poll is off by 25% in the wrong direction, 250k is still not a small number. Nor is 400 million which is half the estimated number small, that's a group of people that find killing your female children for disobedience justified most of the time, and find murdering LGBT people fine because to the Muslim religion they are not human. Mind you some numbskull Christians feel that way, but the numbers are far lower and groups of Christians are not daily on a murderous rampage killing hundreds of people in the name of Jesus.

Except Jesus didn't retract anything. He said that he came to fulfill the lsw, not abolish it. Even Paul said the law still matters

You've not read enough then and thus fail to understand. He full filled the old laws and made way for the new. The curtains tearing apart in the churches was part of that. The laws Paul refers to are the ten commandments, and even then Jesus when asked which one was most important said to love thy neighbor as thyself and to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Not all Christians do this but I'll be the first to admit I'm not perfect. The important thing is I try, and understand that I need work. But to be ignorant of the threat of radical Islam is foolish as thinking oneself without flaws.

I've read his exact words, if one chooses to believe they are.

Matthew 5:17: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.” Matthew 5:18 Jesus emphatically tells us, “Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle [the tiniest marks in the Hebrew script] will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”

He full filled the laws, by doing so he made way for his word. If you full fill a contract you finish it.

Herbert Block job!

I like the art.

"Imam made biscuits for you?"

"Imam always liked you best."

~Not Necessarily The News: Kadafy Fried Chicken/Smothers Brothers Spoof

I express my deepest sympathies for the grieving families in France and sincerely hope that our European authorities will be able to stifle any further terroristic plots to cause civil unrest in our native homeland. To an extent I approve of the message in this picture but it mustn't be forgotten that Islam does contain a violent side in its scriptures

The modern Koran is very confusing to understand due to its original presence existing in two volumes, one written in Mecca and the other written in Medina, which when compiled into one book consistently contradict one another leading to the confusion amongst most non-Muslim people. However if assorted in the right order the Koran does depict the Islamic religion slowly traversing from a peace loving faith (Mecca) into a politicised violent ideology (Medina,) somewhat in the context of Muhammed's life. So conclusively Islam is both peaceful 'and' violent not too dissimilarly from all other religions interpreted by their scholars and members, it's mainly the fact that Islamic fundamentalism takes the cake for expressing sincerity upon the most violent and murderous religious beliefs ever conceived within the last 100 years that people are feeling inclined to blame the religion itself. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people.

You know Muhammad isn't a diety, they don't worship Muhammad he's just an important prophet... You know, like Jesus, who they also count as a prophet and not actually divine.

Because, and I can never stress this enough, Islam, Christianity and it's offshoots, as well as Judaism are all offshoots of the same damn religion! Jesus was a jew and they all fucking lived in the middle east HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS LEVEL OF MIND FUCK EXIST!