You should have bought a Dell. X3

My iMac worked great for years. But its at the point of 'Click. Wait. Click. Wait. Click...etc'

And will be first time building a PC. So gonna make it heavy duty lol.

I do not know much about maintaining an iMac,
but the Aurora I bought back in December 2009, I take good care of it and it still can play all the newest games today without a problem. X3

I have a 10 year old iMac and the computer despite showing it's age is still a beast.

Mine has been overheating problem that slows down the computer. I work on very heavy program and I can't get more than an hour out of my computer without having to power down and let it cool

iMacs aren't that hard to open, and all the fans are easily accessible. You almost certainly just have a clogged cpu or gpu exhaust fan, but you can verify it by downloading free mac system monitoring software which will give you the RPM of each fan and the temperature of all the major components (cpu, gpu, hd, etc.) along with normal operating temperatures. So like if your CPU fan is dead your RPMs will be low on it and the cpu temp will report too high in the monitoring software.

Even if you don't have the tools/time/expertise to do it yourself you could download that software, see if there's a bright red "OMG your CPU is too hot!" warning and show that to a repair person who could do it for you.

Ive taken it apart down to the motherboard. Parts have been replaced. Im at point of just buying all new computer tham trykng to force dated parts into this. The window of upgrade options is kinda small.

I'm borderlining replacing the power adapter inside it if that is what is overheati g.

Its more im getting more and more inclined to invest my money into something else...

This will be recycled of course lol.

First time, eh...? I think I know of a good way to help you with making one. This page might save your life: http://lifehacker.com/5151369/the-f.....r-from-scratch

dell is trash though

Based on what?

Just because you can't afford it does not make it trash.

You are under the misconception that I do not know how to custom-build a Dell computer. I have three of them now, and they serve me well in modern applications.

And I never said that expense makes it better, I meant that expense does not make it trash.

I never ignored your comment, I just had no reason to reply to it, because I agree that custom-built is better.

It is not all Dell parts, most of the parts are still Dell from the factory, and then I just had to take what was available to me over time.

I think theres a misunderstanding in this convo. not sure where. though you "can custom build" a dell its just really dumb and more expensive and are limited to what dell says you can use in the said system.

I do not follow restrictions lists. I install whatever parts I want.

I do not get it. If I made a Custom-built computer by myself, then it is a self-custom-built computer. On a Dell Motherboard. Just because I add a Samsung SSD does not mean it will no longer be a Dell computer. So it is still a Self-custom-built Dell computer.

ok. so depending on how you get it. if you went to dell's site and bought it then added a ssd later on it is still a dell becasueit was made and put together by them and shipped to you. now if you bought the motherdboard elsewhere (becasue they sell replacements seperate) that would count as a self made because you are getting the parts and puting the computer together yourself.

here's how i think of it

prebuild/now how to build a computer and do not wish the problems if something goes wrong.

self built: knows how or is learning. doesnt want prebuilt/stock hardware and is alright if something goes wrong or they screw up and break something in the process.

If that is the situation, then Dell does not sell Dell computers in the first place. If I buy it and it already has nVidia GPU cards installed, that means they sell custom computers, not Dells.

But really... none of this seems to have anything to do with the original argument.
My Dell computers are not trash because I know how to maintain and take care of them and make them run new software even several years later past when people think the computer should be labeled obsolete.
Lots of people don't know how to take care of ANY brand of computer, and when they start having problems, they often blame the computer companies first due to their ignorance and label it as trash.

I suppose next people are going to harass me because I run MS Windows on my computers, too, and tell me all the usual BS I hear about it. >.>

if it had nvidia im assuming you bought a gaming/alienware product from them. i belive that dell doesnt use 100% their stuff but the software and other thingsthey do make it theirs.

only time i complained about a computer company is when their customer service is being shit when i needed to fix something


also I don't know why someone would harass you because you run windows on your computer. i run windows as well. if you were refering to the linux users thenthey can go away cause linux feels just like mac and the mac os/interface is just horrid to me.

Alienware = even more expensive dell. (Dell bought Alienware a long time ago, for those who didn't know)

And yes: They do sell custom pcs. Custom build by: Dell.

Both do not build any parts, they just stick them together, put some system on it, overload it with preinstalled crap and then ask you for 250+ bucks (well more like 400+) just because the printed "dell" on it and/or some parts. If this was not clear enough: THERE ARE NO DELL PARTS. They use the same parts we "custom" builders use. Simply because it would not be worth it to produce new parts. The market is more then satisfied. Thats why samsung stopped building hdds and started to create some ssds. And so on. So I take side for the custom build party =) I had a HP as first computer.. crap that lasted not even 2 years. I had to work on a Dell at work, well it worked quite fine, despite the fact it costs around 2500 bucks. no PC is worth that. Mine is better and I threw around 800 bucks at it :P working on it since 10 years, when it gets slow, I just do some minor adjustments for 50-150 bucks and its like I bought a new 1000+ dell :P

The really funny thing is: You throw away a computer because its slow.. rather then just replace the few slow parts.. because its not a "dell" anymore xD

I respect everybodys choice of what they work and play on. But if you start to think you're "better" just because you threw a buttload of money at something makes me really angry.. and even more if you don't know what you are talking about.

Same goes with your operation System. Its your choice. As long as you're happy with it.

/rant done.

Maybe a refinement on the original position. "Dell is trash for the money...compared to just building your own pc to begin with."

His claim is quite true, even before you take into consideration all the crapware and demo software they like to bog down prebuilt pcs with.

This has nothing to do with prebuilt PCs. I am not a dumbass who buys computers made for stupid people.

I don't know why everyone is attacking me over the fact I have some Dell computers. Just lay the fuck off me.

what  rahkvi said. if you did whatever you wanted to it then it wasn't a dell. you just happened to get dell parts or ripoff versions of dell parts with their name on it.

I have some questions: What are the specs for your $450 computer? Is it enough to run next-gen games? Because I've tried window-shopping for the right parts on Newegg and Amazon and the price keeps totaling up to a jaw-dropping $1500. (though that may be because I never tried perusing Craigslist yet)

Well, it's a good thing I only need a new tower. (can't say the same for Black-Kitten, though) I was just following the guidelines for running Fallout 4...

http://www.systemrequirementslab.co.....t-4/12905/?p=r

...and then decided to prepare for the generation of games after this one so I didn't have to constantly upgrade my tower. I'm not sure how viable your setup will be once the next decade rolls around, but then again I'm not sure if an act of God will take out my computer before I get to play the next generation of games, either. But anywho, this is what I came up with...

Motherboard: ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming ($180)
CPU: Intel Core i7 6700k ($450)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 ($350)
Hard Drive: Seagate ST2000VM002 ($50)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 4X8GB ($200)
Cooling: Thermaltake Frio Extreme ($80)
Case: Cougar Evolution Black full tower ($100)
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-Bit ($100)
Total: ~$1500

...So yeah, it's thrice as expensive. Would you say it's also thrice as powerful, or am I not getting enough bang for my buck? And more importantly, are there any cheaper alternatives that won't significantly impact performance?

You should still qualify for win 10 upgrade if you made it now. I think you could just use your old( re)install CD you had before on new PC and then upgrade if it was7or 8

I have no idea where that CD is. The Lenovo I have now was given to us via Craigslist and I don't remember the OS CD coming with it. My family may have another CD from one of our other computers lying around, however...

well in the sense of the dell my mother bought me for Christmas one year had issues with in 3 weeks of getting it. that got fixed fast but after it was nothing but issues. after the 2-3 years i had it with repairs and then warranty going out they sent me a replacement as a were sorry. it was refurbished and worked amazing for about 4 months then small problems showed.

their customer service is also horrible. it is outsourced so it is also hard to find someone that doesn't have such a strong accent you cant understand.

I had also recently bought my mother a new desktop to replace her old one to at least stop being slow and shitty but not even 2 weeks later it slowed down and it continues to be slow.

MAYBE alien ware is better but the cost to try that now isn't worth it.

either someone other than dell or self built is better and cheaper.

also not trying to make this into a "pc master race" kind of thing just saying what i experienced

Good luck

So when will you open up for commissions?

Such adorable determination!

Holla if you need PC advice! Though it looks like you have plenty of help already! =D

No offense meant, but I love how mac makes people believe macs aren't pcs

It's annoying thinking about how PC means personal computer, and still mac doesn't count as a PC

essentially yes... thank you.

Mines pushing on 10 ;;
So i know them feels, but I'm not in scenario to be able to save for it V.V

Also... Opinions can not be opinions anymore DX

Time to join the Master Race.

So what are you doing in terms of OS? You either have to get used to working with Windumb etc or maybe make a hackintosh out of the new pc? Also i might not be the only one by far but if you want to and you can name a budget i can pick parts for you.

Good luck. Might I inquire what the specs will be?

As others already offered: Feel free to ask for help with parts. Really. You can get a way cheaper but better computer if you don't buy a prebuild.

Its what I did for a living for some time :P

Yeah, if you know any PC nerds, they have spare parts. The motherboard dictates what processors and memory you can use, so get that anew, but you can upgrade to any video card later.

My advice for what it's worth:

You'll get more money doing more, cheap, simple commissions then big, pricey ones. They are faster and within people's price range. Also you get less bullshit from the commissioner for a cheap picture. You can refund idiots who want the moon on a stick for $30 with little time or money lost. Also better for streaming in a "draw while you wait" type deal.

As for the computer, there's no reason not to get a PC now. There are no benefits to having a Mac any more as you can tailor make a PC for the jobs the Mac used to excel at. Macs today are little more than baby's first computer.

Just remember to build it yourself (or get a friend to do it). It's really not that hard and people on reddit will fall over themselves to help create a new "brother." Pre-builds are crappy and over priced, usually stuffing in useless crap they have a deal with the manufacturer to put in (Dell's Alienware brand is notorious for putting in a super powerful and unneeded CPU and shoving in shithouse GPU). Just remember to factor in software into the cost. People often forget you have to pay for Windows unless you want to go for a linux OS... which you don't.

As you're content creating, you want as CPU core/threads and memory. If you're not planning to game of it you can buy a cheap graphics card. Multiple cores help with rendering 3D and coding movies and memory helps you have lots of large images open at once.

Good luck.

What a trooper that Mac has been. <3

I agree do a custom build there you can control what youu want in it, it ma seem daunting but if you can read a manual you can do it

FWIW one option may be to get a new iMac using Apple's financing program. You finance it over 18 months completely interest free, so it's same as cash, just spread out over 18 months. As long as you pay it off inside the 18 months you pay no interest.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

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