Oh... wow. o.O
Talk about a narcissistic, arrogant asshole you created here.
I marvel at Souffle's self-restraint.

I feel bad for jack quite a bit. It must be hard believing your wife has slept with your brother and now you're expected to look after the offspring. But instead of hating his brother and wife, he's just transferred all that hate and loathing into the baby instead. I dont think thats particularly uncommon in a situation like that. So I can sorta relate to him...but yeah I would also smack him if I was souffle, but there are kids in the house and guests about to turn up so some self restraint is being exercised...maybe later AFTER the party souffle can pop him one Hehehe

Yeah, he really poured everything he hates into Gemma and feels totally justified doing so.
I see where this is coming from, but still .. I think it takes a special kind of asshole to do so. Especially because he is not only hurting his wife and Gem, but also his boys. The kids he loves.
Personally I wouldn't mind for Souffle to rough him up a bit. Although Jack would probably just see it as another justification of his actions.
You really created a very thought-through moral dilemma here and I can just bow to your writing skills.
Yes it's only a comic, so I don't actually 'hate' ... but you are good at transferring feelings and emotions over to your readers.

Or to sum it up ... this family's situation is a clusterfuck of epic proportions o.o'

Am i the only one who wants to rip Jack's god damn head off? He just reminds me of my own father. Always trying to get rid of me, and telling me how much of a mistake i was. And as cold as it might sound i was glad when my father died.

It's a comic, so I don't have such strong feelings ... and can stay and talk about it on a non-emotional level.
Maybe it's because of that, that I don't want to rip a virtual person's head off.

If Jack is a monster it is a monster that his brother and wife created. He was a dedicated hard working father who gave everything he had and was betrayed in the worst way possible by not only his brother but his wife also. Had the betrayal never occurred and Gem was actually his child I'm sure he would of unconditionally loved her as well. The hate isn't natural and I suppose you could look at it as a form of insanity more than trying to justify it. However, Jack is correct in that this problem was not created by him and I'm not sure expecting him to fix the problem would be realistic considering he was already pouring everything he had into the family before the incident. To sum it up. His brother and wife broke him and he is not the same person anymore nor will he be in the future unless some great revelation came upon him and he was able to find forgiveness for his brother and wife's actions and then acceptance of Gem. I hope he does. Tons of sympathy for Gem but little for his brother and wife. They literally made this bed and now must sleep in it.

Did she really sleep with Souffle? I always found that point not so clear in the comic.
Yes, she confessed that she did, but only after he wouldn't stop prying and not letting it go.
So.. I'm not sure if they really betrayed him or if that was all in his head?
Which could also be seen as a form of insanity as well, so you might be correct in that. Well, maybe  toddlergirl could shine a lil more light in this :)

I dunno...I'm leaning more towards that they did sleep together, though I agree, it is ambiguous. But Souffle was there constantly and Jack did catch them embracing each other.

If Nicole hadn't made such a mistake, why would she confess and be easily talked into giving the child up?

most likely Jack harassed Nicole into confessing and putting Gem up for adoption

Hard to say as the comic, at least in appearance, is G rated and I don't think  toddlergirl is going to visually show something like that. Assuming a genetic test was made I'm sure that would confirm any suspicion of Gem's parents. Jack is quite suspicious so I'm sure he did just that. Jack and Gem and even his other children are the victims. His brother and wife are not since they created this mess. His wife could of left Jack before all this but she and his brother did the deed behind his back. It's hard to tell how much responsibility Jack's brother is taking for Gem. He seems to have a lot of free time while Jack works so Souffle enjoys all the great stuff of having kids like spending time with them while Jack is the one left working and trying to make money for the family. Not cool. But then again, I could see Jack not wanting money from his brother at this point and to be honest I'm surprised he even lets his brother get near his wife without going into a murderous rage. This worries me if he is transferring his hate to Gem. Keep in mind I'm not saying Jack's behavior is right only that I understand how he got to where he is. I firmly believe Jack is no longer the same person as whatever transpired in that event shattered him most likely permanently. Call it being broken or insanity. I just know he would not be this way if the betrayal had never happened. I just hope he never hurts Gem. He has free will but I don't think he is capable of a rational choice anymore.

No worries. I think Gem left that deliberately open for debate and I think that is great. I love stories that are not are all cut & dried right from the start.
Really like that different people can interpret the story in different ways, without being unreasonable :3
I really can see why you are interpreting it like that, I can see why Jack is broken like that and your argumentation is absolutely rock solid. I will stick with my own interpretation for now, but it doesn't mean that I am right. In fact you gave me a lot to think about and I wanna thank you for that :)

And I didn't mean showing any ...juicey...stuff in the comic, but I meant that outside the comic. ;) But then ... it would clash with the "leaving it open for debate".

Oh I forgot.. there's one lil mistake. And the reason why everything is such kerfuffle.
As identical twins their DNA is the same. Sure, there are a few mutations either of them picked up over the years, but still their genome is so similar that even today it is next to impossible to do a reliable paternity test.
If I remember the law here in Germany, with identical twins the result is basically null and void, because it can't discriminate between them for sure.

You make an excellent point. I had not thought about that. I also won't discount the slight possibility that the affair was all in Jack's head although there is no way Souffle and Jack's wife were completely innocent. They definitely did something although it could be kissing for all we know. If Souffle and Jack's wife did have an affair and sex you could conclude Souffle is the father if Jack had no sex at all. Could you imagine the twist if the Gem was neither Jack's or Souffle's? Lets hope Souffle doesn't also take a dark road. You know.... If my brother had an accident I could take care of the whole family and be with his wife kind of thing.

Souffle and his wife aren't innocent in the classical sense I guess. I think they do have feelings for each other, but I am not sure to what extent.
And that dark road you mention.. *shudder* Oh yikes o.o'

In the end the only thing for sure is that doing the right thing is not always easy.

Unfortunately, I don't think the right thing happened which is why adult Gem is a bit messed up but we can hope things get better.

Yeah, I agree. I don't like Soufflé and the mom too much. It's sad that Gem is in the middle and the centre of so much rage and poor decision, but it's not fair that he's saddled with something they did.

Pretty sure it's already confirmed they didn't cheat, Jack is just paranoid

It is only paranoia if you are incorrect. I haven't seen anywhere where it confirms nothing happened and if anything the behavior of his brother has been less than innocent. Yeah... I'm not going to be suspicious of my brother who looks just like me and who is with my wife all day while I'm at work. Particularly a brother who had interest in that wife at one time and a wife who also had interest in the brother. That being said I won't discount that it is all in Jack's head. There is really no way to know short of us actually seeing it in a comic panel and Ghostbear made a good point that even if cheating was involved they are genetically the same so there is no way to test and find out. I strongly dislike Jack's current actions but won't condemn Jack simply because we don't know all the facts but then I suppose I shouldn't condemn his wife or brother either for the same reasons.

Thing is the way they speak in private a few pages back suggests that they are innocent. They're alone without jack in the room and both say he's paranoid and that it isn't true, if they're alone why would they lie to each other? The only time we've seen souffle behave poorly was in Jacks story and from jacks point of view. At least that's my take on it.

A good point but I can't tell if they are talking about the past or about the fact that they are seeing each other right now despite Jack's wishes.

I did a reread and I'm with the idea we don't know if she had an affair. It seems she confessed only after Jack kept hounding her. It could be she really had an affair or she just said so in hopes to put the issue to rest and have Jack and their relationship move on. She might have just thought, if I say I did, maybe he can let go and stop acting so paranoid. Kind of like now she is beginning to think about letting Gem go in hopes this will finally satisfy Jack and restore peace to the relationship.

I love your comic so much Gemma, but DAMN do I wanna smack jack. (Lol, rhyme~)

He isn't a good husband or father either. Neglection to your spouse and children isn't a good thing. >w<
But I'm sure, the only thing he can use here is the guilt trip card. :/

Gah, Jack is such a dick. >:|

Also, "Found" has seemed to be on the back burner a lot lately. So sad. :c

Lol no it hasnt. Both comics get 4 pages a month. As per my patreon reward system so they get equal amounts of luvvin heheh

I dunno, maybe I'm having a time lapse somewhere but it does seem that "Found" has had less love lately. I enjoy all your comics but Found really speaks to my "little" side. >_<

Either way, someone needs a frying pan. :3

I think perhaps its because found doesnt have nearly the same level of followers as shine so shine pages often create quite a buzz and open up discussions etc i mean each page of shine gets between 6000-10000 views within the week its posted whereas found pages just dont seem to drum up quite so much. I think perhaps because found is considerably darker and less fetishy its a quieter comic although 10x more complex lol.

I narrow it down to there being more DF's (more fetish orientated) than BF's/Littles and "Shine" really speaks to that demographic... I guess that shouldn't surprise me. :/

I think I like "Found" the most though. The story is quite captivating. ^__^

Oddly enough, I'm strictly DL with zero interest in AB or furry stuff (in fact it's a bit of a turn off for me). That said, somehow I stumbled across a page of this comic, the one where Gem nails the bratty kid in the head with a ball in the restaurant. That visual tickled my funny bone for some reason, so I dug up the source and backtracked a few pages to see what the context was. Then I wanted the context for that context and backtracked some more pages. Then I realized this was much more than the "shortest path to porn scene" that furry comics have a bit of a reputation for, and started at the beginning. I ended up staying up all night reading (though I'll admit I skimmed over the baby sections as fast as possible), and am continually impressed by the realism and depth of the characters.

So TL;DR, I find this comic amazing despite being about as opposite the target demographic as you can get.

Zero interest for me in... all that acronymed stuff, so I'm not even in the target demographic!

It's just a good, well-done story, and those will always stand on their own

This is pretty much with me. I'm not into the baby fur and furry fetish themed stuff, but this comic caught me because of the deeper plot behind it. I like well written comics with complex themes and this one does that well.

If you're turned off by furry art, how come you have an account on this site?

I just assumed its because found is almost complete so now you're giving us small sippie cups of it like a fine red wine

Sammie, I love both Shine and Found, and I'm sure CTN will climb up there as well. But, I love them for different reasons. As you said, Shine is more fetishy, if that's a word, and Star is a lot of fun. Also, Star's situation is a lot closer to us, as a whole, in that she's a normal, functioning adult, with adult responsibilities, who has a relatively unexplored (so far as I've been able to tell) little side, and she's getting allowed to let the little side out.
On the other hand, Gemma is an adult, who has had a very rough childhood, has gone to the extremes in making herself into something, and who apparently has blocked off much of her childhood, which is now coming back through a series of dreams. She isn't an AB and she isn't a DL, although she's wearing diapers, they are for protection. Her 'baby side' is coming to her in her dreams, so it's not that she's an adult wanting to be a baby, but just reliving her own past. I'm not sure that appeals to ABs as much as Shine does
I'm not the type of person who is into humiliation, or bondage, or spankings and stuff, so CTN may not appeal to me as much as Star and Gemma do, but it's too early to tell at this point.
All of that to say that I wish there was more Found. I know this is an important stage in the story, and I anxiously wait for the next pages to see what's going to happen. I want to know what's going on with Jack, I want to know what happened in the Court room, and I want to know what happens to Gem(ma). I AM one of those people who can become so wrapped up in a story, if it's written well. Tom Clancy and his Jack Ryan character is one such story, and there were times I was actually afraid to read more because I was afraid of what would happen, yet, the characters weren't real, they didn't exist, except in the mind of Mr. Clancy, and on the ink on the pages of the books I read, and hence in my own mind. Gemma, and Souffle, and Zee and Ras, Jack and Nicole aren't quite as real as Jack Ryan was, but your stories, to include Shine, hold my attention. That is the sign of a good author, since I'm critical of a poorly written story. So far, yours have not been.

i'm gonna punch him if souffle doesn't................

violence is bad children only punch someone if they're a complete dick
No you need to say beat the crap out of someone to make sure he does not do it again.

Oh boy this family is what I called a cluster mess up.
Oh Gem get better.

Sad thing now zee zee and his brother can think they are given away too.
To grow up that you can be gone wow.
Poor gemma

I honestly don't feel much hatred towards Jack.
Dunno why

Likely because he wasn't the one that created this mess. He wouldn't be the first person in history to morally change after being betrayed in an affair. People have killed other people including their brothers over such things. Toying with someone's heart who loves you absolutely is a recipe for disaster regardless of whether it is a man or a woman. I hope he gets better before someone seriously gets hurt but could you get over an affair if you saw that your twin brother was still hanging out with your wife and kids after cheating with your wife?

Jack is just a obsessed ass-wipe who doesn't listen to reason but his own selfishness. We saw that in page 293 he was watching Nicole in her sleep like a classic stalker. He's shown nothing but hatred and verbal abuse for a child who is innocent in all this and is in no way at fault here, and for the cheating, all he did was see them hugging, then started treating them like crap because he's an asshole and saw it as an affair. We saw that the way Jack and Nicole talk to each other, they're just friends. Neither admit to what they did, nor call Gem anything but Jack's daughter. Siding with Jack is taking the abuser's side instead of the true victims' here. Jack is a heartless monster who cares only for what he wants and he believes.

Actually, I'm on Gem's side. I also said in other posts that I didn't like the things Jack does but I understand why he does them. This is an older post you replied to and only one version of what may have happened. Understanding why someone does something is not the same as siding with them. I am not one to quickly condemn and what you have said may be true. For those picking sides I think you can build a case either for Jack or Nicole but I feel there are a lot of key evidence pieces still missing. Is Jack a Jerk and treating Gem like crap. Most certainly and I hope it stops. Was the whole affair thing totally in his head. I dunno and I think that remains to be seen. Regardless of what anyone believes, Gem is stuck in the middle and I hope things get better for her. I have a feeling that awful things are on the way.

Sorry bout that, but it annoys me seeing all these 'Poor Jack' posts and I kinda exploded at it. I've seen plenty of people like Jack getting treated like the victim instead of the bully and abuser they are. It kinda makes you go off when you see people side with the person in the wrong.

'Paging Dr.Froyd' XD
But seriously, this guy reminds me of that ONE GUY in a gaming match online, or that one character in the movies that always uses their interests at heart. And being somebody who only just got into the whole family thing recently, I can say I'd punch him in the gut and maybe kill him if he were real. So what if they cheated on him, that's no excuse for transferring the hatred to the one they created rather than the two who did the deed.

Maybe he should take a dose or ten of his new drug, that way he can add to his paper whether it works or not on paranoia =p

Go on Souffle!!! Rip him a new one! Jacks a horrible nob

I hope Souffle smacks Jack around. *growls at Jack*

I got a feeling drama's gonna happen at the party. Jack might give his own "gift" to Gem in the form of a verbal tongue lashing blaming her for being born and being Souffle's seed right in front of the guests. Could be the spark to set off a fight between Jack and Souffle in front of the guests.

I was thinking of doing a Found fanfiction, like an AU to the story Gem.

would the brothers ever come back together? would they forgive each other and stay as a family?
well only time will tell i guess... =/

I almost teared up at "IT"... D;

I legitimately want to slam his face into a wall. Good job making a believable antagonist....Now where did I put my katana....

Jack really needs to "Grow up" and put his personal grudge aside.

*fluffs and hands a pitchfork*

Wow im gonna be honest I really wanna punch Jack in the face. So you did a great job at making a very belivable character. Also I think the fact that I've had similar experiences with my birth family IRL adds to the experience I get when reading this. Really great job on it ^_^

I get where he is coming from but it's not cool maybe some one should dump some foy on him and treat him the same as he has

poor gem ;W;

You know..................... This guy might be a lot easier to pass off as a fictional personality... And there for, less easy to hate... if not fro the fact that I have to call him my "stepfather" real life......

Fiction is fiction.... But........................... In no uncertain terms, if you're basing this on someone you've been exposed to real life..... Fuck that guy... With a cactus.........

Sorry u.u c.c....

I vote we all get rusty spoons and chase the guy down.

My daddy's a big meanie...

Zee, I know you're small, but your Mommy and your Uncle didn't help the situation any. There's enough blame to go around for all the adults here. You're the big brother, just like I am to my family, so you need to be there to help your little brother and baby sister in any way you can. It's called 'responsibility' and it's a hard thing for someone your age to live up to, but you do what you can for Ras and Gem. You've already done so much for Gem.

Let Soulffe take care of Gem. T.T

i hate to put it like this but...ive lived it, i dont know my real dad, only the bad things about him, i hate his guts and i would wanna beat the hell out of him, this hits me hard cause i was ALMOST put up for adoption till my moms family intervened and for this point i do have a quest, a quest of finding my real dad and gonna beat him down for what he did, i feel this struggle, i feel this plight, but not for Jack's cause, but for Gemma's mom and Soufle, for not wanting to do this at all and wanting to stand up to people like Jack.

Please tell me you're not literally going to beat him

why not...hes put my mom in a wheelchair, broke her skull in 3 places...so i say its Karma paying him back through me

last I checked that was called revenge, and had all kinds of legal problems, and left you empty inside.
No one person can take on themselves the job of enacting Karma

Don't get me wrong, that doesn't make what he did any less despicable

*sighs* its just...i know how bad Souffle feels about Jack and just reminds me so much of how my real dad was

Do you need a hug?

i would be lying if i said i didnt want one

Jack needs a good old ass whooping.

... The dark side is strong with this one.

The further i delve into the baby/diaperfur fandom and even the ageplay community as a whole, the more prevalent some rather dark themes become. I mean, in  kammypup 's Regressive Tendencies comic, the main character is afflicted with a "disease" that renders her completely incapable of living a normal life. Continously shifting in age, her mind constantly affected by the physical age of her body and therefore being treated much younger than she truly is causing even more strain to her already fragile mental health. And here in Found, where Gemma is tasked with discovering the reason why she was abandoned by her family, a reason that involves deceipt, hatred and animosity that was bestowed upon her at birth, animosity she did nothing to deserve.

We certainly have a lot of dark issues to contend with, my friends...

I don't much care for the diaper/babyfur. Infact if it gets too.. um sexual i lump them with a certain group.
I am here for the story of this comic which despite the said diaper/babyfur themes is really damn good with some complex characters.

I think you'll find that everywhere, no matter whar you delve into. I mean, in a furry world, at some point you have to ask where your hamburger came from

I understand where Jack is coming from. It's not fair that he just had to go along with this

Are maternity tests unavailable in this world? I mean, talk about an easy solution to go to get lab tests done. Maybe if he saw biological PROOF it was his daughter he'd change his tune.

Identical twins.

Not likely to be able to tell them apart genetically.

There was a case where a man had 2 sets of genes in his body because he absorbed his twin while he was in his mother's womb. It was discovered after he failed a maternity test. So I think it would work

Wasnt an Identical twin then. There is a diff between having twin and having an identical twin

As they are twins a Paternity test wouldn't really work.

DNA tests for determining which identical twin fathered a child would be impossible back then and is insanely expensive now. It requires four full DNA sequencing: mother, child and both brothers. Jack appears to be a mad scientist of some sort so maybe he has access to the tools to do it now.

Im confused. Jack tells Souffle to stay out of it, but then tells him "That's how all of this started". I know that Nicole had an affair with Souffle, but I can't put it together.

I think Jack is simply stating that they would not be where they are at now if Souffle and Nicole hadn't had an affair. This is likely true as there are other ways this could have turned out differently. Nicole could of legally left Jack to be with Souffle instead of having an affair. Gem would still be born and taken care of by his brother and ex wife. I think this would still devastate Jack due to all the hard work and devotion he gave and the fact that it is his brother but he would likely recover. If the affair hadn't occurred at all then Gem would simply be another one his children or not exist at all. You can hate the guy and he definitely a darker person now but he is correct in saying that the current situation was created by Nicole and Souffle. Jack was working hard every day of his life just to support his family's survival and had no time for anything else before the affair. There was nothing he could have done differently and he had no idea his wife was unhappy.

Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me! *Rubs the back of my head* Your not the only one who feels for Jack.

not exactly true, if you read more of the back issues Jack is denying Gem out of his paranoia, there was no affair between Nicole and Souffle. Jack only thinks Gem is Souffles out of jealousy of his brother bonding with all three of his kids (Gem, Zee-Zee, and Rasile). That and the story he told Gem was a total lie since it was from his biased point of view and he tried to strangle Gem in her dream (which probably led to adult Gem freaking out in court since she started to hallucinate seeing Jack in the real world as well as Grub).

So Gem is really his his daughter, but Jack doesn't believe it ?

yeah, from what I gather Gem is Jack's daughter but he is denying her cause he believes in his paranoid mind Nicole slept with Souffle. It's obvious there is more to this than meets the eye, I think Jack's paranoia could also be out of jealousy since the kids look up to Souffle more like a dad than they do to Jack

Yeah, I've been re-reading the comic and I came across a page that says Jack is the real father

If it's the page where Jack browbeats her until she admits it, that takes place in Jack's recollection of it as he tells it to Gem. Actually it's probably not even real Jack -- it's Gem's dream version of Jack. I'm not sure how much we can believe that, as it's from his own twisted paranoid point of view. But when Souffle and Nicole are talking, just a few pages ago in fact, they don't talk as if they had an affair -- and there are no other adults there, so why would they say anything but the truth? All Souffle talks about is how Jack's paranoid.

So I don't think Souffle's Gem's father. I think Jack is, and all this is because Jack is mentally unstable and in great need of a drug that cures dementia. Except I'm not sure that a drug created by a dangerously delusional person can be trusted to cure any mental illness. What's his idea of stable exactly? Is he using himself as a model of mental stability?

But still. Jack is the father, yeah? But to Jack he thinks its all Aon his brother and wife

Hope we don't get in trouble for spoilers! Hehe

same though I doubt we are spoiling anything. Mostly cause Gem knows what's going to happen next

Right! This is basically a flashback

So basically he's saying because Souffle was there that this whole mess happened

More that if Souffle hadn't had the affair then Gem wouldn't exist and it wouldn't be an issue. Kind of a cold thing to say but true.

Again thank you! Have a good day!

You too.

The ASSUMPTION by Jack though is that Souffle slept with Nicole. She simply capitulated into a confession rather than keeping it honest and telling Jack he's insane. In a way Nicole isnt a whole lot better than Jack in that she's willing to give up her baby cause if his insanity.

That's possible. I won't deny it but I don't think there is anything concrete on any particular side. There is enough evidence to build a case for defense of any of the characters. I just not going to flat out condemn Jack based off speculation of what we know tho. It could also be that they were caught doing something like kissing with Nicole being vulnerable and about to start an affair and Nicole confessed to something more than what happened out of guilt.

He thinks there was an affair it's in jacks head.
Yes they spent a lot of time together but there was no affair.
He dosent believe his brother or wife it did not happen he made his mind up it did.
He just thinks little gem is not his.
That's what I read many page's ago.

Then why does Nicole wanna get rid of Gemma?

She doesn't, but she also doesn't want her to grow up with a father who hates her every minute of every day. She just doesn't see a better solution. I suppose she could leave him, but then there would be custody battles for the children and expensive legal fees, and there would be the matter of her having to support one to three children by herself. Maybe Souffle could step in, but he's not suggesting that even when it's just him and Nicole, so maybe that's not an option for some reason.

Yes, well. That makes sense. I came to the same conclusion myself, but its nice to know that someone was listening

I think I'm one of the few people who has sympathy for Jack. I don't like what he does but I believe the original Jack was obliterated mind, body, and soul by the betrayal of his flesh and blood brother and what he thought was a loyal and loving wife. Now we are left with a dark twisted soul Jack who is in all likelihood insane. Even if you don't believe him to be insane, I find it unlikely that he would be as he is had the betrayal event not occurred. He would still be hard working and Gem would likely be his child who he would love unconditionally. Unfortunately, that's not what happened so we are left with dark Jack. I hope he gets better but when you fracture a man or a woman like that then it is unlikely they are going to recover and even if they put themselves back together again there will be scars deep down to remind them. It takes time to heal from events like that and how is that going to happen if his brother is -still- hanging around his wife? Sad that Gem and the other children suffer.

I honestly look back at the story and wonder: what if they were right? What if she is Jack's child and he just doesn't remember it? (If Gem really is going through a psychiatric episode, she may have inherited predisposition to some yet-unspecified psychiatric problem)

It doesn't make it any less stressful for him but it does put Nicole and Souffle's reactions in a whole new light

Yeah, the story makes it easy to jump to either side. Either Nicole and Souffle's side or Jack's side. Gem gets stuck in the middle regardless. The truth is we don't have enough facts and are speculating. We don't know what Jack actually saw or thought he saw. I can only hope that Jack finds a way to forgive what happened whether he imagined it or not and be accepting of Gem as his daughter. A lot of this depends not just on Jack but also on his wife and brother. Judging by his wife's posture and behavior it seems she has kind of given up and is just accepting the situation no matter how bad it gets. Fortunately she is still trying to what is best for the kids. I think Souffle wants to honestly help now but the way he goes about it seems to add fuel to the fire.

If Souffle were really Gem's father, then why wouldn't he step in and stop Nicole from giving away his daughter. He would have some rights, even if the biology could not be proven with a DNA test. The whole mess could be resolved if he took custody of Gem, whether he is her father or not. Even if he is only her uncle, he obviously loves her. I would think that it would be a much better solution then the complete abandonment of the child.
-Victoria

I agree. I'm not sure why Souffle couldn't be Gem's father either. You would think it would solve all problems since I'm sure Souffle would still visit and the kids would see each other. Jack wouldn't have to worry about Gem and could make enough to support the family. I wouldn't think Jack would have a problem letting her go considering how he treats her so I'm not sure what it is. Legal snag of some kind in this universe? Gem might resent it later particularly if it turns out she is Jack's daughter but for now.... Yeah. It would fix stuff.

It is obvious that Souffle loves Gem and her brothers, whether he is her father or uncle. I do not see any reason for him not to raise her. It would save a tremendous amount of heartache and pain for the children, they would not have to be permanently separated.
-Victoria

I think "right" sums up all the problems here.
If Souffle demands his right, he is stating he is the rightful father, and therefore, that Jack is right and his behavior is right. Right?

If he were Gems father. But with Jack convinced that Souffle is the father, and a DNA test not possible, it wouldn't matter. He could still claim to be Gems father and prevent her from being given up for adoption. He could try to get custody. And if the mother went ahead and gave up Gem, she would be surrendering her rights to the child. Souffle could then step in and adopt her, as her uncle and closest family member.
-Victoria

but once he does that, I doubt he'll be as welcome in the home

At least Gem would be saved from having to grow up in foster homes. And she would have someone raising her who loved her.
-Victoria

I still really think that Jack is Gem's father; there is no place where it's proven that he isn't, just a dream in which a dream-version of Jack tells Gem about bullying her into admitting it. And just a few pages ago Nicole and Souffle talked about this as only Jack's paranoid delusions, nothing more, when they were the only two adults present (and the children weren't paying attention to them at all). So, you're welcome to your opinion, but I think Jack has manufactured his own emotional obliteration 100% by himself and thus has no one to blame but himself for his own mental state.

You absolutely disgusting coward.

I never want to hurt people...but him? I want to bite him so freaked hard how can anyone talk like that about an infant (one year old whatever) it's just sick

I believe more than ever he's gonna use her as a test subject

I can't help but think this might be true too or it happens accidentally due to negligence since he doesn't care about Gem. I lean towards the negligence part. It could explain what happens in the courtroom and Gem's dreams as a biproduct or side effect of the drug. I also wonder that if the dark twisted jack that was created by the affair might also have been due to Jack being exposed to the drug. Perhaps his push over the edge was made easier by the drugs exposure. Then again, he might simply have turned out hateful given the events that transpired and we will likely never see him put back together again.

could be true, though I always thought what happened in the courtroom was also a negative reaction to the pills Gem got from Dr.Kitsune a while back since she did take some before she had her dream/nightmare involving Jack telling her his side of the story (though it seems he peppered the story with his own personal bias) and then tried to strangle her in the dream before Gem woke up.

I think the birthday party might be the catalyst as to why their home was wrecked in Gem's nightmares.

And let's also not forget who else saw Jack as a monster. Zee-Zee. I think Jack might harm Zee-Zee as well as Gem if he loses it during the party.

You are quite right, ZeeZee also saw Jack as a monster -- I don't know why he'd harm ZeeZee, but he might seem very scary if he gets angry, I suppose. And at some point Gem gets left in an orphanage; we know that. He remembers his little sister and what his father did to her, even though she never hurt anyone.

*nods* yeah, I think something will happen during the party involving Jack and possibly both Nicole and Souffle over Gem.

The drug cures dementia... but sends you back in time? That's one heck of a side-effect

Not sure what you mean. Much of the story is flashback. If he was creating the drug then he may of become exposed to it or a previous alpha version of it while his brother was spending time with his wife. Gem might of become exposed to the drug while younger leading to her strange dreams and outburst in the courtroom. We don't know yet since it hasn't been shown in the comic and it could be possible neither Gem or Jack were exposed. I'm just saying that the drug perhaps doesn't cure dementia or only does so temporarily and the side effect can be causing dementia or partial dementia. There is already enough to send Jack over the edge but I imagine if he was exposed to something in the development of this drug then it could play out some definite affair fantasies and dreams in his head due to his brother spending time with his wife and his brother's previous relation with her. These are just theories but they would explain a lot.

Zeezee and Rasile have stated that she can stay and that she can change things while she's here. If they're right, and this is more than a dream/flashback, putting the drug as the cause opens a whole other can of worms

True. I'd comment more but um.... need more info on certain events. I'll see how it plays out in the next few comic pages.

It does make one wonder how Gem could remember her father, even though she was given up at the age of one. Most children do not develop concrete memories until at least two or three years of age. Which again leads to the possibility of either exposure to the newly developed drug, or possible experimentation by the father once she has been removed from the home.
-Victoria

There is the smallest chance that the Butterfly effect could be going on as well in sort of a time jump but that's a real stretch. She might be trying to fix things as a child to prevent some great tragedy in the future. That could lead to other problems. If you could prevent a great tragedy such as the death of your father and mother would you do it if it caused you to cease to exist.

But if by saving your parents, you in turn cease to exist, you would be unable to go back in time and save your parents. It creates an unsolvable conundrum.
-Victoria

Ah. Wonderful paradox. Sort of like if you built a time machine to fix something then fixed it. Why would you have built the time machine in the first place? Paradox can only occur if one assumes that time is linear (ie a single straight line) rather than branched. In a branched timeline time would start a new timeline at the point where you left in time while the old timeline loops for all eternity.

jack has clearly failed his ethics class

Man I hated that class!

yep, same here.

Sheese I hate this guy

Damn... This page is a little on the rough side... you'd figure that twins would learn to share at some point in their lives but nooo.... dudes gotta be an as asshat

Also, im with everybody else, bravo on the incredible story writing

Wow... yeah, Jack is blaming the egg for not being a bird. It isn't the bab's fault she has a questionable origin.

Still, though... Poor guy has it in his head that his wife cheated on him with his brother. That would give me a skin crawly level of fury, too.

I have one teeny tiny loophole.

If Jack is a scientist of sorts, in the medical field, why hasn't he done a paternity test? Or is this a situation where it might fail because Jack and Souffle are twins and likely share a lot of the same DNA?

Otherwise, I keep loving these :)

A quick google confirms that a standard paternity test would be unable to distinguish between the identical twin potential fathers.

You'd have to have a VERY in depth one that costs in the tens of thousands of dollars - and we already know that they don't have enough money for that. So yep, pretty much this is a case of a paternity test not answering the question.

(Source: http://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-g.....paternity-test )

The tools to do that probably did not exist 30+ years ago. They do now and he probably has access to them. I am not to sure that everyone is still alive to provide a sample.

I'm really disgusted with Jack and I really want to hit him right now. Props to his brother for restraining himself though.

Somewhat off-topic, but I always find it odd when furs hit each other rather than making use of their claws and teeth. *shrugs*

I'll admit, I don't get the people expressing sympathy for Jack, especially with all the foreshadowing of previous dreams that something bad is going to happen- the charred house, ZeeZee and Rasile cowering... I don't know precisely what, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's bad, and who'll be the cause of it. It's perfectly possible and reasonable to be able to understand the chain of events that led to someone doing something bad (like, really bad, 'Gemmy's brothers getting hurt' bad), but that doesn't mean they're sympathetic. There are many people throughout history who have done vile things, and while you can follow the progression of events and put together all the becauses and whys and understand the reasons that they did what they did... does that justify what they did? Does it make them sympathetic? Hell No.

Well, if their thinking is anything like mine, they probably don't want to give on the idea that maybe, just maybe, there's still at least some teeny-tiny iota of goodness left in the guy, and that it might shine through at a critical moment, paving the way for him to change for the better (however long it might take).

What we have here is a situation where no one is blameless other than the kit who resulted from the act. Now why are they all guilty? Why am i not on the bandwagon of blaming one brother or the other while letting the wife go? Because all three are adults, they all had choices, they all chose wrong which led to the situation they are in right now.

One brother is guilty of driving his wife to the act of infidelity for being at work for so long she most likely got lonely that the love of her life was never around. So he really should be saving some of that anger for himself because his wife has needs and he failed to fulfill them.

The wife is guilty because she may have decided consciously, or not, to take advantage of her husband's twin brother so that she may feel 'loved' and possibly imagine it's her actual husband. After all she like all women are just as much a sexual being as men and have needs. Her husband was unwilling to fulfill them due to work so she sought fulfillment elsewhere. Toys do not give the same feelings that doing the act with an actual loved one does.

The other brother is guilty for succumbing to her advances. And then having sex without protection with or without the wife claiming she was on the pill or something. If he did not do so willingly than this adds the layer of her committing rape against him, i am only stating this just for the possibility.

Technically speaking, not rape. Souffle CHOSE to do so, regardless of what the pretenses were.

But yeah, all are at fault except the children in this situation. Jack even more so for projecting all his hatred onto an infant who had no say in the matter, and is just barely old enough to understand actions have consequences.

Jack really didn't have a choice since he -had- to be at work that much just for the family to survive. However, whenever you have sex you know what the consequence might be so both he and his wife share in that. The lack of his being able to be there was a shared consequence. This is not to say that Jack had all the rough time since his wife is at home taking care of children all by herself which can be immensely stressful. While I agree that they are all adults and can make adult decisions the question is can they make adult rational decisions. On the assumption that an affair -did- occur it would be not unreasonable that Jack's state of mind and spirit absolutely crumbled since his family was everything to him. Now he just finds out that his family is a lie. I imagine the stress and anger would be similar to if he had found out Souffle had ran off with his wife and kids to France with all the money from their joint bank account. Add to this that his brother is still stays close to his wife while he is at work and puts Jack's wife in an awkward situation when he shows up because the kids want to see him. I don't think Jack is in a position to make a rational decision and it may be some time if ever that he is able to do so. I guess the question would be "Is Jack beyond the point of no return where he can forgive?' It doesn't matter whether his wife or brother deserve or need forgiveness or if the affair actually occurred. If Jack doesn't make that choice in his heart then he is no longer the Jack before the affair incident happened. If that is the case then yes he deserves what he gets as every choice he makes is a rational decision as the new dark Jack. However, if Jack has a chance of coming back from the abyss then his current decisions are not made by a rational mind. He is fighting the betrayal of his wife and brother on top of paranoia of his brother still visiting his wife. Gem being constant reminder that affair occurred. I might not like Jack decisions but I understand why he does them. In the case where his mind all messed up but he might forgive in the future he may come back and realize he was wrong for how he treated Gem regardless of whether the affair was real or paranoia.

The person that I find hard to figure out isn't Jack but his brother. I mean.... You know your brother is at work all the time which is why he can't be home so you constantly spend time with his wife. I mean... If you want to support them you can get a job and help them financially which would allow Jack to work less and then spend time with his family. Because he didn't do that and instead uses it as a chance to get close to Jack's wife who had feelings for him comes off a little shady to me. It is like he is indeed trying to steal the family. Maybe he was but now he isn't. Maybe he just made some really stupid choices and it is all in Jack's mind. I can't tell with this guy. He is nice to the kids and supportive of Jack's wife but I can't help but feel he does everything possible to fuel Jack's paranoia which may indeed be justified.

I don't know why you're defending him, but jack chose his career over his family. No one forced him to choose the line of work he did or to take the role in the project he was working on. Assuming this is a modern like setting his employer would allow him to take a lesser role so he can 'help with the family' considering he has two sons before gem came around.

His wife feeling unloved and seeking attention elsewhere was a consequence of his action, he has no one to blame but himself for it. She has her own blame to share with choosing to have an affair too but let's not forget it was Jack's choice that led to it.

How does he know she is feeling unloved and wants more attention? Perhaps I missed it but did his wife even once say she was not happy? Did she propose any options for Jack to take to support the family? In Jack's frame of mind the family is happy and doing well and he has no reason to believe otherwise. No one forced him to do the job. True. But the kids have to eat. What happens if he quits and can't find work? What happens to the kids? He isn't working for selfish reasons. If he was like Steve Jobs and making gobs of money and rarely seeing his family then yeah.... he is choosing his career over his family. I gotcha. The comic even stated even with the extra work he barely made enough money. In this case he barely makes enough to get by and isn't choosing the career over his family but choosing the career for his family. Kids eat. Kids have clothes. Wife has roof over head. She ends up exhausted from taking care of the kids all day and he ends up exhausted by the job. No one is wrong in this situation and perhaps all of this could have been avoided with some communication. If he was at home all day with the kids and she was working multiple jobs to supporting them I'd feel the same way. Perhaps they could have rotated responsibilities. I dunno. What is sad is that it is even worse real life for children today where often in America two parents have to work just to support one child with the cost of living skyrocketing. Parents don't see much of each other and kids don't see much of their parents. Explains a lot of crime in my opinion. Going to get worse when the trillions of imaginary dollars made by the government comes home to roost.

...wheres my chainsaw

I feel nothing but rage at the moment for this guy, so I'm not going to attempt to figure the logisticis out in my mind at this moment. Loving the comic Star, and this page especially tugs at the heart strings.



. . . can I wish for our good doctor here to get swiftly smacked in the crown with a porcelain throne? No? *sigh*

Regardless of what I said to true Kaiser, WHERE"S MY MINIGUN!? I'LL MAKE THAT FOX INTO MINCEMEAT!

I kid, of course. xP

at this point i wish souffle did beat the h***out of jack that is what i do that jerk

This makes me wonder what will happen in the next page. Someone's gotta snap eventually.

*shaking*

Meet Jack, who cares jackshit about everyone else

Regardless of who the father is, Nicole is Gem's mother. I find it inconceivable that she would choose her husband over her children. Her excuse that Gem would be hurt by the fathers rejection is just that, an excuse. How did Nicole think her child would feel knowing that she had been given up so that her mother could hold on to the hubby? And what about Nicole's sons? Does she not care how this will affect them? To have their sister, whom they obviously love, just disappear one day? Nicole should have stood up to her husband for the sake of her children, even if this meant that she would have to leave her husband and raise her children on her own. To give up ones child to hold onto a man goes against everything that motherhood stands for. She gave birth to these children, they are her responsibility, they should come first. Period.
-Victoria

Agreed! Her babies should be priority.

Thank you. I find the fact that she chose her marriage over her children to be deplorable. No matter who Gem's father is, Nicole is her mother. In the wild a mother bear would kill to protect her offspring, so how could Nicole so easily abandon hers? She should let the two brothers have their pissing contest and focus on being a responsible parent.
-Victoria

Soufflé (or is it just Souffle?) should've hit him. :( I usually only resort to violence as self defense (meaning I won't attack unless someone attacks me and I can't safely escape without getting violent), but that's one instance where I'd have made an exception. That Jack guy is a total jerk. :(

Agreed. Regardless of who the father is or isn't, Jack had no right to call Gem "the brat". This is a defenseless, innocent child. It would have been justifiable for Souffle to give Jack a good trouncing.
-Victoria

to me the use of the word "it" at the end is what makes it the worst.

Urge to kill rising...!

*gives you a laser rifle*

Wow, thanks!

Gemma to Jack represents the the romance between his brother and wife(if there is one) and each time he sees her he is just reminded that his wife cheated on her(perhaps)

1. She would feel a lot more guilty if she did cheat on Jack but she is not the skank type of girl.

2. Why Would Jack try to find the cure (presumably for Gemma) if he hates her? this would imply he accepts what is happening.... unfortunately he does not.

A lot of people here underestimate the power of hate and Jealosy. If I was Jack I might have done something similar. Also Im pretty sure Jack would take "all" the precautions to not have another baby.... unless "someone" did want to have a third child... but that might be overthinking it.

I agree. Assuming Jack did catch them in the act he could of done many more terrible things. Jut open the real life news today. Not uncommon to see a man and woman killed for cheating or a wife/husband doing a murder suicide by killing themselves and the children. Terrible stuff. Kids are the ones that suffer regardless of fault. I think what Jack is doing is terrible but I'm giving a little leeway that he might not be in the right state of mind and might forgive and make apologies in the future. Sucks for Gem tho. She doesn't deserve this. I think who is courtroom could be important. The flashbacks cause me to lose track of time but could Jack have killed someone? Could Souffle have killed someone? Either of those would definitely have an impact on Gem.

Makes perfect since. But I don't think Jack was the killer in the case. He got what he wanted (Gem being given away) He has no motive... unless he went insane for a reason not yet revealed in the comic.

Yeah. I dunno either. But the case could of come about on finding new evidence and could be an old case.

it could be he starts to think that maybe the boys are soufflé's and not his.

but what's stopping him from thinking that the boys are soufflé's and not his.

I dunno. Maybe they are all crazy.

maybe but we well have to see.

Honestly, this comic speaks to me, it's how I feel my father views me after I came out to him...

Man, that is harsh.

Souffle would be in the right to thrash his brother good for the hell he caused his family and the trauma that little angel Gem had to go through.

sound like gem do not have the same dad...

Same here Sierra, same here.

I could see the illusion that family mattered to him IN THE PAST but that last page sums him up.

Job/Science/Life-or-Death > family

Well, we don't actually know what's become of him. Or any of them, really. She's only seen Jack, Souffle and Nicole (and Rasile, too) in dreams that she knew were dreams. It seems possible that adult ZeeZee is really somewhere around in reality, but he could still have been a hallucination. None of them could be around anymore. All we know is that Gem was alone -- maybe she got put up for adoption as seems to be the plan, and just about anything could have happened in the intervening years. Maybe something worse happened (from other memories we've seen, there could have been a fire). But all we really know is that Gem survived to the present day and is only now dealing with the memories.

For people wondering, yes, it was confirmed ~ 20 pages ago that Nicole did, in fact, confess to sleeping with Souffle and that Gem was Souffle's kid (altho it is possible that she just confessed because Jack harassed her about it so much). https://www.furaffinity.net/view/17320378/

That being said, it's really unfair for Jack to take out his negative feelings on Gem and not Souffle or Nicole. If it's really that big of an issue, I feel like he should get a divorce, not put Gemma up for adoption. Nicole and Souffle are adults who should have known that what they were doing was wrong. Gem's just a baby -- what her parents did wasn't her fault, and it wasn't something she could control.

It's unfair for him to force Nicole to put Gemma up for adoption. I feel like abandonment would be worse than the two getting a divorce, but that's just my opinion. >>

I have to agree that divorce would have been far less traumatic for the children, rather than for Gem to just be abandoned. Often society heavily pushes how unselfish adoption is, and that it is the right thing to do in many situations. What they fail to mention is how many children do not find homes, and spend their entire childhood in an institution or foster homes. And sadly, those are the lucky ones. Many more end up in abusive, neglectful homes with no emotional support. We have all seen reports in the news of adopted children found dead due to abuse. Not too long ago in the U.S, we had a very sad end to an adoption case. A little boy had been adopted from Russia by a family in Tennessee. It turned out that the boy had some emotional and behavioral problems, which is very common in these cases. The adoptive family apparently did not want to deal with it, put the boy on an airplane back to Russia, with just a note pinned to his coat. This little boy is now so traumatized by the whole situation, that he will never be the same, and will most likely never be able to integrate into a family unit.
-Victoria

I agree. Beside, look at what Jack walks in on! If His brother is just a helpful uncle and pal,to the children, why is he holding Nicole like that?

aaaaaargh!! this comic gives me all the feels!!

This asshole reminds me of my own birth father. When I was born apparently everyone on my fathers side wanted me to be aborte. that i was the culmination of sin between my mother and father. But instead i was to be put up for adoption... I can relate a lot to this comic thank you for writing it ... I was able to face my father a few weeks ago and this definitely helped.
-Naru

I have been reading this whole story and while the undercurrent was there, I notice that not one time, even when he is leaving the house, does Jack ever say to his sons or his wife, "I love you."

I agree that Nicole and Souffle did not cheat. Souffle and Jack each got close to her and she chose Jack, but Souffle was able to keep his platonic love, his "family love" for her, and respect both her and his brother by quashing his romantic love for her.

Jack is an asshole of the first order, and while Nicole is not blameless for giving up her daughter to keep her marriage (h/t Victoria) I can see her reasoning. I don't agree with it, but I can see it.

And whoever said it upthread, that furries should use claws and teeth, I agree with that also; Jack needs to be disemboweled. I'd say he needs to be shot, but that would kill him far too quickly. He needs to suffer and die very slowly.

This is a particularly well-written story, and even if I had no AB/DL leanings, I would be clicking in to read it. I've told  toddlergirl that in note, but this page <sigh> all the feels. It was time to make a first post on FA.

<snugs Gemmy tight>
S

I agree that this story is very well written. Just look at the discussions and debates that this one page has opened up. I think when it goes to hard copy, I may have to send a few to My old ethics and contemporary literature teachers. Imagine that, a college class being taught using a furry themed graphic comic.
-Victoria

Oh how much I wanna just punch that fucker in the face right now

Its sad to think that such things do happen every day. I've known people who have gone through similar situations and its never pleasant.

Wow, Toxic relationship much, I'd have strongly suggested to leave him. Evil as all.

Gem You've created something awesome here. There are obvious solutions to their problems and yet obvious reasons why these solutions aren't grasped upon. The characters are very relatable and believable. One the one hand one would think no mother would choose someone else over her child and that she should obviously leave him. But on the other hand you can see that she still loves him and wants to believe that doing this for him can fix things. Just do this one thing and it'll all be better again. Souffle for his part won't suggest the option of her leaving because well he may feel responsible for all this even if no affair actually took place and he still loves his brother. But given what we see here I don't think that love for his brother will continue to win out. As for Jack himself. Well it's quite easy to see he's a very insecure man who thought his brother better than him and yet found love and happiness anyway. But when things started to sour perhaps it was too much to admit it might have been his own fault so in insecurities fueled paranoia which has lead to where we are now. It's a three way tie up with these characters with a lot of love and hate mixed in and the balance just can't last forever. It's a powder keg just waiting for the match to drop.

I would kill him.. or I would, be her 'father' and ADOPT GEMMA, if she is gonan be put up for adoption.... why didn't he just do that?...

I get the feeling not everyone survives the next few panels.

that look in jack's eye's he maybe thinking that his marriage is dead now and he's going to do something stupid.

grr is such a meanie! *hugs and waves*

I feel like Jack is being a bit over the top but still. Jack gets too much shit ;( I feel kind of bad for this guy. He starts a family with a loving wife only to find out that his own brother has a kid with her too. And now he has to take care of her AND gets shit from brother about not wanting to spend time with her, who is a LIVING SYMBOL of Nicole's betrayal. MaNNNNNNNNnnnnn. I actually love this comic series. It only gets better. Keep up the good work Gem.

A little something I noticed in the last panel that makes the likelihood of Souffle being Gem's father very unlikely. When Jack comes home and wants his wife and brother to join him at the lab, Souffle's response is very telling. Souffle tells Jack, "No, Jack. YOU need to come to YOUR daughter's birthday, the lab can wait for a day". Why would he emphasize Gem being Jack's daughter in such a way if it were not true, especially when Gems future was in peril? Usually if something is emphasized like this, it is important to the story.
-Victoria

I can adamantly hear Vic Mignogna's voice for Souffle

That..was hard to read.

You know, I hate playing devil's advocate, but I'm still on Jack's side. I mean, she admitted to doing adultery, the child isn't his and he is expected to look after and raise it. He is expected to work way more and harder than he has been and is expected to not see his family as much to raise another mouth and the fact that he is looked at like a monster really grinds my gears. I don't fully agree on just giving her away, and he could have a better attitude till she is gone, but I think the possible cure for dementia is a little more important than a child's birthday party. I think something that will make them millionaires would be top priority in this scenario. Souffle really has no right to be angry at Jack here. He went behind his brother's back and slept with his wife and wasn't even careful enough to keep her from getting pregnant. Like "How dare you talk about my child that I am saying is yours and that is causing you to work so much more, you can't see your family." It's true that he is putting all his anger in Gema who hasn't done anything to deserve it, but she is the cause of what started all this. :/

There was a certain page that revealed Jack as the father of Gem, but he believes that his brother and wife betrayed him.

Funny how this guy is the one to blame and he just blames everyone else you could sum it up as. Showing distaste for his own wife...oh yeah because he definitely didn't betray her by MARRYING HIS JOB!

gezz WHAT A ASS

A jackass

heh I get it

my step-father is worse than this asshole... even though you created him. or he is someone fursona..

Hey Jack, here's something you should research (cuts his left ear off with hedge clippers) regenerating tissue.

Brovo

Has anyone read "A Child Called IT?" The last panel reminded me of that and now I'm really glad he's taking himself out of the picture.

Where can I find that story
Link

that was colder than ice

when will the next one be out

Oh I SOOOO want to kick his ass right now.

Same

No gem is gonna be put up for adoption... :(

Get rid of "HIM"!

Love your work

I really wish this was a movie and if you want to tern it in to
A movie I can get you a sponsor

what a freaking asshole. the more i see this guy the more i wanna tear his throat out with me teeth. if he's so f#cking smart why don't he do a DNA test........sorry, i got my own personal daddy issues and this guy just reinforces the natural hatred. i really REALLY hope this's guy had one karma bitch slap of an outcome.......wouldn't it be funny if the pill Gem took was produced by this bastard? i'd so take the law sue

Jack and Souffle are identical twins, so a DNA test would probably be useless.

can't be mad at ya, yur right. like i said though, daddy issues, that was the anger talking during that post

Lots of comments for this one! I guess you've gotten people all riled up about this situation. Good job! :) Because that's clearly the goal of the writing here.

I'm still wondering whose point of view this is from! This is the most third-person this comic has ever been. This is the first part that's been pure flashback without any "present day" characters at all. Except possibly the seaside scene. I guess present-day Gemma's being sedated is somehow causing her to experience these memories without any intrusion from her conscious mind? Or something like that. Or maybe they're just pure flashback, and none of the "present day" characters are seeing this at all, just us in the audience.

Whether the affair was real or imagined, the effects are the same. While I can understand all three of them and the choices they're forced to make, it's a real shame that Jack has shut down his emotions and that Gem is caught in the middle of forces she can't possibly control or understand at this stage.

It's just a rough situation all around, though perhaps why it's not a good idea to date brothers.

Jack has got to be the most pathetic character in this entire comic strip. If there were really something going on, I can understand why he would be upset with his wife and brother. Taking that anger out on a baby though, that's one of he lowest things that anyone can do. I'm seriously hoping that if Gemma finds him in real life, that she socks him one in the snoot.

Swearing in a kids comic. I know this is not for kiddies but still genral audience this is not conkers bad fur day!

Jack reminds me of a giant child here. He's getting upset that they're paying more attention to the baby than to him.

You know Teen Titans Go, that show nearly everyone hates because it spit in the face of the original show and reduced the characters to obnoxious, one-dimensional overgrown 5-year-olds? Well, I actually used to be a fan of that show, believe it or not, and during that time, I shipped Raven and Beast Boy like crazy and even created an AU where they were married and had a baby. And guess what? They were actually kind and loving parents! So the Teen Titans Go version of Beast Boy, who's basically an overgrown bratty 5-year-old was a better dad than Jack here.

I've seen many stories where a little kid gets a new baby brother or sister and quickly grows to resent their new sibling because they feel like their parents love the new baby more than them and wants to get rid of the baby. This sort of reminds me of those, except the older siblings love the baby, and it's the FATHER who wants to get rid of the new baby.

ok jack is a meanie face

hugs

anyone else see a living piece of SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
(idc if my comic has a curse word im just saying facts)

So...ummm, not to be that guy. But would a paternity test straighten this whole thing out?