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Surprise! ABD is now also on Patreon!
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Well, to be sincere, since having a Patreon became such a common practice around, I did hesitate to create one for my comics. I have my reasons for trying this, and none of them is a whim, my wish to become another random artist with a patreon or my wish for you to fund what I should be drawing on my free time. If you're interested in the reasons, you're free to note me, but below I'll explain why I believe you could be interested in my Patreon.
- First of all, my Patreon is not a paywall. All the comics and art I'll be creating with the funds from Patreon will remain public and will uploaded here along with a website specifically for comics. I'm just asking you to fund the creation of the comics, not the purchasing of the priviledge to see them.
- Second, I won't close commissions at all. I'll be opening commissions each month as usual and if you're interested in getting one, you'll always have a chance to, even if there's a Patreon account out there. In fact one of the rewards for helping with the Patreon is a fixed discount on commissions.
- Third, all the types of pledges in my Patreon are small enough and even at getting me $1 each month, you'll have access to all the content in high resolution.
- Fourth, this is a Patreon created specifically for the creation of comics and, if you're willing to see it, greater projects like visual novels, animations and videogames. You'll be supporting the creation of comics like Moonlace and other comic projects that I'm already working with. The best part? I already have a staff ready to jump into this adventure and lots of projects in line to get started! Right now,
lei-lani and 
ryusei-lupi are helping me with writing the scripts of the comics and be able to do more frequent uploads.
This is meant to be a real project and not a whim. I have the skills, technical knowledge and intentions to keep drawing comics for as long as you're willing to read. This is a serious long term project! Just to mention one case, Moonlace is meant to be a long comic. It's planned to last for at least four story arcs of around 12 episodes each. And the other ongoing project Bethellium (from which I'll have finished pages soon enough) is meant to last at least the same time. Then we'll have Lei-Lani adventures, The Circles and plenty of other comics and more! If you support this project, I promise you'll have always new stuff to look forward.
So please, take your time to check my Patreon and decide for yourselves. Also please feel free to ask me anything, I want to make things as clear as possible for everyone. Only $1 is plenty to help me in this project.
So without further ado, here's
ABD's Patreon
P.D. Patreon has asked everyone to move to the new page design or be moved automatically on March. I'm aware this new layout doesn't allow to see all milestones, so if you're curcious about them, please let me know and I'll post a copy here.
...
...
...yay
Well, to be sincere, since having a Patreon became such a common practice around, I did hesitate to create one for my comics. I have my reasons for trying this, and none of them is a whim, my wish to become another random artist with a patreon or my wish for you to fund what I should be drawing on my free time. If you're interested in the reasons, you're free to note me, but below I'll explain why I believe you could be interested in my Patreon.
- First of all, my Patreon is not a paywall. All the comics and art I'll be creating with the funds from Patreon will remain public and will uploaded here along with a website specifically for comics. I'm just asking you to fund the creation of the comics, not the purchasing of the priviledge to see them.
- Second, I won't close commissions at all. I'll be opening commissions each month as usual and if you're interested in getting one, you'll always have a chance to, even if there's a Patreon account out there. In fact one of the rewards for helping with the Patreon is a fixed discount on commissions.
- Third, all the types of pledges in my Patreon are small enough and even at getting me $1 each month, you'll have access to all the content in high resolution.
- Fourth, this is a Patreon created specifically for the creation of comics and, if you're willing to see it, greater projects like visual novels, animations and videogames. You'll be supporting the creation of comics like Moonlace and other comic projects that I'm already working with. The best part? I already have a staff ready to jump into this adventure and lots of projects in line to get started! Right now,
lei-lani and 
ryusei-lupi are helping me with writing the scripts of the comics and be able to do more frequent uploads.This is meant to be a real project and not a whim. I have the skills, technical knowledge and intentions to keep drawing comics for as long as you're willing to read. This is a serious long term project! Just to mention one case, Moonlace is meant to be a long comic. It's planned to last for at least four story arcs of around 12 episodes each. And the other ongoing project Bethellium (from which I'll have finished pages soon enough) is meant to last at least the same time. Then we'll have Lei-Lani adventures, The Circles and plenty of other comics and more! If you support this project, I promise you'll have always new stuff to look forward.
So please, take your time to check my Patreon and decide for yourselves. Also please feel free to ask me anything, I want to make things as clear as possible for everyone. Only $1 is plenty to help me in this project.
So without further ado, here's
ABD's Patreon
P.D. Patreon has asked everyone to move to the new page design or be moved automatically on March. I'm aware this new layout doesn't allow to see all milestones, so if you're curcious about them, please let me know and I'll post a copy here.
Category Artwork (Digital) / Comics
Species Unspecified / Any
Size 1020 x 400px
File Size 388.8 kB
That's a difficult question, because the concept of famous depends on a number of factors. What I can say though, is that exposition, understood as the number of people that you can reach, helps a lot. As a rule of thumb, around 1% and 5% of the people that follow your work would be interested in supporting you by putting money in, and even in that case you'd need to offer them something they truly like.
In my personal case, my original patreon campaign barely managed to get me $130 each month, which's a reduced number given the number of followers I have. Ever since I did research and found that my original patreon campaign was lacking. I had to adjust the rewards, focus and general scheme of work at least twice before the support was sustained without bleeding supporters every month. So, even if you have good exposition, support does not come for free.
If you want to create a successful patreon account I can suggest a couple of things. Understanding that I'm no expert and far from the biggest Patreon case of success, as there are people there earning above $1000. So take what I say with a greain of salt.
1.- Reach out to your followers so they are completely aware of the existence of your patreon. If you don't have many followers, try to find more. For that, helps to maintain multiple gallery accounts, specially on large sites such as Furaffinity, Deviantart, Inkbunny and Sofurry. Keep posting stuff regularly at Twitter and Tumblr also helps a lot. Post regularly, doing so once a day helps even more. Buy ads whenever you can. And work with artists of a similar level of yours, so your audiences can learn of the other, which is a win-win situation.
2.- Research other Patreon accounts that are similar to what you want to offer, and see what type of rewards they offer. Also think of what your potential audience would be interested in getting from you, in case they support you. If you don't know, ask. I've found people is always more than willing to tell you what they'd be interested in getting.
3.- Be patient. These things take time, and since the support on Patreon is simply too spread in thousands of accounts and artists, people will have a difficult time to decide to support you just out of the blue. Create and show what you can offer and earn attention both here and on Patreon. Things may be slow at the beginning, but if you persevere, then you'll have a better chance to attract attention.
4.- Get help from friends. Hearing other's opinions and ideas help more than you can imagine. And of course dealing with things and even on rainy days, friends help you stay afloat.
As you can see, simply having a following does not mean you'll get anything for free. Although it does help. So hopefully some of my advice will be of any help for you :)
In my personal case, my original patreon campaign barely managed to get me $130 each month, which's a reduced number given the number of followers I have. Ever since I did research and found that my original patreon campaign was lacking. I had to adjust the rewards, focus and general scheme of work at least twice before the support was sustained without bleeding supporters every month. So, even if you have good exposition, support does not come for free.
If you want to create a successful patreon account I can suggest a couple of things. Understanding that I'm no expert and far from the biggest Patreon case of success, as there are people there earning above $1000. So take what I say with a greain of salt.
1.- Reach out to your followers so they are completely aware of the existence of your patreon. If you don't have many followers, try to find more. For that, helps to maintain multiple gallery accounts, specially on large sites such as Furaffinity, Deviantart, Inkbunny and Sofurry. Keep posting stuff regularly at Twitter and Tumblr also helps a lot. Post regularly, doing so once a day helps even more. Buy ads whenever you can. And work with artists of a similar level of yours, so your audiences can learn of the other, which is a win-win situation.
2.- Research other Patreon accounts that are similar to what you want to offer, and see what type of rewards they offer. Also think of what your potential audience would be interested in getting from you, in case they support you. If you don't know, ask. I've found people is always more than willing to tell you what they'd be interested in getting.
3.- Be patient. These things take time, and since the support on Patreon is simply too spread in thousands of accounts and artists, people will have a difficult time to decide to support you just out of the blue. Create and show what you can offer and earn attention both here and on Patreon. Things may be slow at the beginning, but if you persevere, then you'll have a better chance to attract attention.
4.- Get help from friends. Hearing other's opinions and ideas help more than you can imagine. And of course dealing with things and even on rainy days, friends help you stay afloat.
As you can see, simply having a following does not mean you'll get anything for free. Although it does help. So hopefully some of my advice will be of any help for you :)
after months of trying and getting nothing, I am wondering if I can at all, I am justva nobody artist, with 473 watchers, I am struggling to provide content with a full time rl job which for me is extreamly boring and I want out of needing an 8 hour a day job under some boss chained to a weekly schedule
One art teacher that I had ages ago, told me that a good artist could work with any tool, cheap or expensive, and still delived great art. Dont' worry yourself too much about your tools. As for your skills, there's no magic remedy, it is all just practice, practice, practice and yet still practice. If you're patient and keep working at it, you'll get better over time. Not even natural talent is more important that constant work and effort. I did check a bit of your gallery and you're doing great. Of course you can be better, but that applies to everyone, so that souldn't not discourage you.
Just keep in mind, that everyone started drawing "stick figures", even the greatest artists of all times. So not having a polished style yet, doesn't mean you'll never have it. Just don't surrender to impatience and the busy schedule of our lives in this age we're living :)
Just keep in mind, that everyone started drawing "stick figures", even the greatest artists of all times. So not having a polished style yet, doesn't mean you'll never have it. Just don't surrender to impatience and the busy schedule of our lives in this age we're living :)
Well, I've been working as freelance artist way before I entered at Patreon, so that's not my case. It was a huge risk I took, and only the need of trying make ends meet every month and pay my bills, was enough reason to force me be creative and continue with that route that was and still is pretty difficult. Don't feel discouraged because of what others have, and rather focus on what you can get. What I said before still applies. I gave you a number of options that you can put to practice in order to reach your goal.
I can assure you, no artist that has reached a big number of watchers managed to do that for free. It was in most of cases a succession of bold decisions, patience, hard work and at the bottom of it, a bit of talent that you most certainly have too. As I said, the fact that you have so much to learn should not be reason to discourage you, not what other have achieved because you can't know how hard it was for them to reach the spot where they are now. Simply focus on your own work, and keep at it. I'm sure there's a number of people in the community that would be interested in following your work. You just need to find a way to reach to them either by focusing on specific subjects when drawing, or working harder on developing a personal art style. Whatever the case, that door is open for you, so all you need to do is to stop comparing yourself with others, and rather celebrate your own advances against past versions of yourself.If you keep doing that, one day you'll smply notice that you're a great artist
I can assure you, no artist that has reached a big number of watchers managed to do that for free. It was in most of cases a succession of bold decisions, patience, hard work and at the bottom of it, a bit of talent that you most certainly have too. As I said, the fact that you have so much to learn should not be reason to discourage you, not what other have achieved because you can't know how hard it was for them to reach the spot where they are now. Simply focus on your own work, and keep at it. I'm sure there's a number of people in the community that would be interested in following your work. You just need to find a way to reach to them either by focusing on specific subjects when drawing, or working harder on developing a personal art style. Whatever the case, that door is open for you, so all you need to do is to stop comparing yourself with others, and rather celebrate your own advances against past versions of yourself.If you keep doing that, one day you'll smply notice that you're a great artist
I has postponed Patreon, at this point, I am still too obscure to get any followers on it, But I found another art program called Firealpaca, seems promising with Medibang now constantly (not responding), I just hope it doesn't take a whole 10 years to be worthy of posting on Patreon, I don't know if I can get to 10,000 watchers in my lifetime..I hope I can oneday get to 1000, I do have accounts on other websites, don't get much views there either..I am trying twitter, but I will admit I am not good at social media. I am trying to do commissions, I waited 12 years to do it , because in the past I really wasn't good enough to do it. Now that I have a tablet,because as a poor walmart worker in the past, I really couldn't afford one, Now I could, I just have to eat nothing but white rice everyday..to afford it, I used to draw with a mouse or did pencil sketches, but since pencil sketches don't impress people, I knew I had to go digital. I don't know if I can do my current job for 5 years, that it might take to become a real artist who can post on Patreon and get $600 extra a month on top of commissions. I just want to beable to make $1,500 a month, so I can quit my job and be a fulltime artist, when I was a kid, everyone told me I would starve if I tired to be an artist, I'd have to have a real job, unless I could become the next Walt Disney..
You can make a living out of art these days without having to be Walt Disney. The internet was truly a revolution in that regard. But since the internet is so big and there are so many people trying the same, reaching the audience that could like your style and support you while you start, is quite difficult. But you can do it in this age more than ever.
The trick lies in differentiate yourself from other artists, so people can have a reason to look out for you, instead of someone else with the same level of skill. Is important to have a strategy in mind though, having a successful personal bussiness it's not only about skill but about having a strategy on how to attract new viewers and potential clients. Working hard but with no strategy at hand is like hitting a tree trunk with an axe on different spots expecting it to eventually fall on it's own. It may fall in the end, but there's a bigger chance that you'll give up first.
I suggest you to strongly focus on commissions first, as people will always prefer to see their own characters and ideas drawn by you before seeing yours. It's not something evil or anything, it's simply that people is as much interested to see their own characters and ideas come to life as you are. And of course if they have money to spend, they'll spend it in what they love first. So, is more likely that people will pay you first for commissions than on your patreon. Doing commissions also earn you money and is a great way to start building up a fanbase.
We all want to make enough money to live out of creating art, but it's no easy task even for the more experienced artists. So as I said before, just keep trying, and of course, try to research to device a strategy on how to differentiate yourself from other artists. That can be the most important factor you'd need to take into account
The trick lies in differentiate yourself from other artists, so people can have a reason to look out for you, instead of someone else with the same level of skill. Is important to have a strategy in mind though, having a successful personal bussiness it's not only about skill but about having a strategy on how to attract new viewers and potential clients. Working hard but with no strategy at hand is like hitting a tree trunk with an axe on different spots expecting it to eventually fall on it's own. It may fall in the end, but there's a bigger chance that you'll give up first.
I suggest you to strongly focus on commissions first, as people will always prefer to see their own characters and ideas drawn by you before seeing yours. It's not something evil or anything, it's simply that people is as much interested to see their own characters and ideas come to life as you are. And of course if they have money to spend, they'll spend it in what they love first. So, is more likely that people will pay you first for commissions than on your patreon. Doing commissions also earn you money and is a great way to start building up a fanbase.
We all want to make enough money to live out of creating art, but it's no easy task even for the more experienced artists. So as I said before, just keep trying, and of course, try to research to device a strategy on how to differentiate yourself from other artists. That can be the most important factor you'd need to take into account
for Patreon users it might be easier to make money , since they are so popular people pledge and that only grows more and more per month, I'm still too obscure to be able to use Patreon 479 watchers is good, better then 423 when I first started taking notice and realized, I am not getting anywhere. while I am trying with commissions, I have 3 so far, but not getting anything else, guess I am still too unknown..so I have to post my own art, I work to create, I draw all day and all night to produce and make up for 12 years of worthless doodles, just so I can prove and I am worthy to do commissions and one day worthy of posting on Patreon.
If you really want to advertise your patreon, then you must certainly create some posts with no payment so people can see you're serious about it and even allow some people browing on patron's portal to reach your account and see your material. Remember is like when you find an interesting website announced on internet just to find the site is under construction. You need to at least have some material to show. You can always wait until you have some material to announce your patreon :)
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