dude one day your probibly gonna get hired as the next artist for the gundam series dude.<3 this kicks toall ass.

isnt the gundam series dead?

well yes the anime series is but not the models.<3

Nah, it's still going on, although the quality's slipped over the years.

well its like this the storyline gets suckier every series they make,but the design of gundams and moble suits they make in everyone of them get more awesome as the series goes by.

I'll give you that with SEED. It was so bad ><

00 is pretty good though. The story is pretty involving, and it's the first recent Gundam I've been happy with in years.

I like season 1 of 00--well, after about episode 12 or 13, when things begin to pick up--but I'm not sure what to make of season 2 based on the fact that the mecha fans I hang out with are... really really negative about Gundam these days. I need to actually watch it to form an opinion of it.

SEED had promise, but it really fell apart under the weight of popularity poll driven rewrites and the whole unlikable nature of Kira and especially Lacus, especially in SEED Destiny.

yeah I agree with ya,but I mainly like the gundams and moblesuits in it, exia,dynamies,kryios,vritue,they are so cool looking.<3 and the 00P and 00F ones look as cool like astrea,normal and type-F.

I dunno I thought gundam 00 was pretty good, though Nothing beats old school UC gundam IMO

00 had some great concepts behind it, with really, well crafted characters. The 2nd season is going really well. Though, you are right. Most of the Gundam universes can't compare to UC. Though, 90% of the world dying at the end of Victory might have been much XD

Well what do you expect from Kill'em all Tomino and you thought Victory gundam was bad you should check out his other anime Space runaway ideon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPn4kzzNCo

WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Damn, I didn't expect to see the little kid's head shpt clear off with a laser X3

Yeah, Victory's the absolute low point of the Tomino-directed Gundams to me... it's a bit too dark.

Looks awesome. The head looks better than the old Veritecks. Nuff said.

Metal Siren kicks so much rump it isn't funny! Metal Siren!

Agreed

When I saw it I thought Gundam meets Macross, but looking at the head and shoulders I thought of Patlabor or something too. Maybe not Patlabor... but something. I can't place it.

Now THIS looks like my kinda Robotech. Mmmm sweet sweet melee combat...

Remains me of the Flag Mobile Suits from Gundam 00

it kinda reminds me of those things too they look so awesome thier slieak design just give them the look of something not from gundam right?

Bitches don't know about my Macross II.

Dude that's sweet. Just one engender fault. The feet have a large weakness if they are hit and broken they lose there perfect placement in order to stand aka WORK. XD But ya very sweet.

I would show you my Marauder if I could. Thing is for me is that I can't figure out how to draw mecha worth beans still.

The Metal Siren is possibly one of the best mecha I've seen yet associated to Macross. I mean, the thing was an anti-warship mecha! Taking out a nine-mile battlecruiser on its own? Awesome...

still ugly as sin in it's High performance mode, but I guess ya can't argue with the results though

Aw, I kinda liked the high-performance mode, hehe! Ugly mechs need love too.

I love the design Metal Siren has. Though, with mechs, Gundam will always have my heart X3

All gundam designs in general or ones of a particular series? personally I prefer all UC gundam designs from 0079 to zeta gundam.

Not all. Some of them have been pretty pointless in my view.

The UC universe had some amazing designs. From UC, my favs have to be:

RX-79
Gundam Alex
GP-003 Stamen
Nu Gundam
Zeta Gundom (Of course ^^)
V2 Buster Assult Gundam

I'm fond of far too many mecha to narrow my field down any. XD I'd still love to get Cauldron-Born Omnimech, or a Destroid, and just ramble about in them. XD (course, that'd also have to include either unlimited ammo, or ammo that regenerates in the mech itself. XD energy-matter conversion and all that.)

Same for the most part. Hence, those were JUST from UC in Gundam. The list could go on and on and on and on....

X3

I lost faith in the Gundam Series when they started taking the MSs from all the previous series, including their plots, put them in a nice still, then distilled them down to a freakish form of hybrid serieses. (I'm speaking of the Seed and Double-Zero series, which are rebuilds of older series, with freakish 'hybrid' gundams derived from the older gundams).

Sure, it's nice to see them using the 'best parts of all series'... but it means they didn't really do any thinking on their own, you know?

I don't really see 00 as that really. It appeared that way at first, but it slowly evolved into its own series.

I know. The designs are different, but it still has the smell of the Gundam 'Meteor' project from Gundam Wing. (which itself was based off the original Meteor project from a prior series).

I'll still be fond of 00 for its designs though. One of my own friends saw the Dynamex gundam in a store, and bought it for me because 'it reminded me of ya when we play 360.' LoL. What with the sniper-rifle and all.

I like the designs from the unrealeasd in america series,turn A gundam!

heres a link to them:

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg......_2039_22263309

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg......_2039_23065487

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg......_2039_12619837

http://www.gundamstoreandmore.com/ban71695.html

but the series that came to america that will always be my #1 favorite,G gundam

Yeah it does give a feel more like a mobile suit or L.E.V (especially the Vic Viper Prototypes).

You've got a good eye. It appears damn near identical to the image in the RPG source book. You did a good job replicating the image. Very nice linework.

I am sorry to have to say this but this image continued to bug me, until I began to browse more of your gallery. And noticed that a large portion of your so called "original" artwork on the Macross mechs is far too similar and detailed compared to your normal work, to the official images released by the company. I am afraid I must now report you for art theft. Anyone who is interested in finding out what I have come to discover needs only visit

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgu.....html&usg=__H41ThjIBOXSuvcTKHPciaj8k4DI=&h=356&w=311&sz=41&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=Pm9otv3LvtwUzM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=106&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMacross%2BVF-1MS%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

If you want proof. I am afraid I must now report this to Dragoneer, as you have claimed them as your own instead of trace work that you have done. I am saddend and very disapointed by this.

http://www.dm123.cn/bbs/read.php?tid-168871.html *

art theft? while it's true I used a pic of the metal siren from the macross 2 source book as a reference but I by no means have traced it I was only able to get the macross 2 source book in PDF format from this site http://www.macrosshare.com/search/l...../Miscellaneous *sigh* if you wish to report me I guess there int much I can do about it but I still stand by my stand by my statement that I did not trace this.

If it was JUST the 1MS image I would be able to let it pass. But almost every single mech picture in your gallery seems to be a direct copy of one from one of the various Macross and Robotech RPG books and widely available artwork on the net. I wanted to let it go, but the evidence against you is a little overwhelming.

*sigh* well as I said I still stand by my statement that I did not trace it, Im just a little distressed by this whole situation but I wont hold any of it against you.

Don't listen to him *hugs* U are a great artist ^.=.^ Everything in the world is a copy of something, so one more don't hurt *hugs* That is what i think ^.=.^
I don't mean that u go around traceing stuff.

Unfortuantely, the argument that you can't trace it because it's on PDF is completely invalid. PDFs can be printed and then used. I have seen so many of these mech images that you claim as your own on the web and in the RPG books. If you trace, that is fine.. But admit it. Do not claim it directly as your own work.

I never claimed I owned the designs, I know full well any macross designs belong to studio nue or Big west respectively it's just fanart for an anime I like

I'm sorry, this is none of my business, but comparing those two images it is clear it isn't traced. It is definitely similar, as it is fan art of that particular model, but it is drawn in with a slight different perspective, and the proportions of various parts are different.

There are a few minor differences, but that is not enough when there are a great many images in the gallery that do not match in style or design, as well as each being identical in pose, structure, color, and design to images I have personally seen on web pages, RPG books, and image boards. Being a very large Macross / Robotech fan I am unable to deny what I have seen.

I have already reported this to the site administrators, and it will be for them to decide.

leave him alone its great art dude even if its traced or not......you stated your opinion now go and leave it be why dont ya.

I am not flaming him, I am responding in a respectful and civil manner. If you cannot add into this conversation with constructive input, then please do not comment.

I never said I was flameing you all I said is you stated your opinion,you sould go now.Im not here to start a flame war its just let the guy draw what hw wants to draw traceing or not.

I'm sorry but those "minor differences" are what make each image unique and artist defined.
I've gone through the web link posted above and through Zyotes gallery and have found many discrepancies between the images.

The picture above is just one example but it shows much of the artist actual talent. The legs, left arm and fins on the chest are just a small sample of things that are not traced. Previous images also have various proportions misplaced to an extent that it changes the shape of the Mecha. Take the previous image of the siren drawn for Tolstoy for example. The Mecha has a oversized canopy, inaccurate nosecone and improper sized arm sections. there is no way that, that is traced. Similar mistakes can be found on the VF-1 Valkaries too.

I think the fact that someone has called theft on his work is actually tribute to the skill and effort he has placed into drawing these images. I'll admit they do look similar to the originals, but isn't that the point of fan art?


((I apologise Immensely for ripping your work apart like this Zyote, but the proof that your a good artist is in the mistakes you've made in your drawings. I am really, really sorry! ))

I don't give a damn if someone wants to copy an image freehand or trace it or anything else in such manner. It becomes theft (even if it is a freehand fanart copy) if you claim the pose, image, and idea as your own. Had he once..JUST ONCE... Laid credit where the image came from I would have said nothing. There are a hundred artists on FA who copy or freehand other images... And they all give the proper credit to the original. And the moment they don't.. The moment they claim it was their own original work and someone catches them, they are called theif and a lot worse. I have been polite, I have been respectful, and I have not flamed him at all. So you should be thankful that I am not launching a massive campaign to have him banned from the site, because he is a good artist. It is the matter of credit where credit is due that has raised this issue and nothing else.

I see. So you are doing this because he hasn't given credit to the original artists that he imitated?
If that's the case it should be relatively simple to go back through the works and put a "Varitech and Macross are © to..." marker on the images.

Yes, but I cannot make him do this. That is something only the site administration can tell him to do.

As I said, it is not the fact that the images are copied that bothers me. It doesn't become theft until it is claimed as entirely original.

hehe ok, I won't complain any further ^^

really, if thats the case I can do that all I have to do is edit the submission info and put the neccesary info, honestly I never said they where my designs, I just assumed that mostly everyone knew what macross/ robotech was and would clearly see that they where not my designs, any I guess I have myself to blame for that error, but Ill go into my gallery and fix the errors. Anyways Ill make sure to do that with the rest of my artwork when it concerns copyright designs.

All you need to do is list the source of the image you used as the base design and your ass is covered. I'm not trying to say you're a bad artist or can't draw or anything.. Quite the opposite really. You do have skill.. .It's just a matter that you need to make sure people know that you have used other images and redrawn them for yourself. Be glad some of the more..... Enthusiastic.... Furries on FA didn't get wind of this or you'd probably switch to deviant forever.

Its all good, a little critique never hurt anyone, in fact I welcome it

That's nice to know, it worried me for a bit.
Though i must admit, I never noticed untill i went back and checked against the origionals.

Don't let it get to you, you're a damn good mecha artist.

let's see If i remember the weapon load out on this monster....
1 Plasma lance/cannon
2 shoulder mounder lasers
2 hip mounted auto cannons
2 wing mounted Particle cannon gupods
and Concealed Missles Launchers, missles launchers, and OH MY GOD EVEN MORE MISSLES LAUNCHERS COMING OUT THE YIN-YANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ooooooooooh. O.O Interesting. I like! XD