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Eh, things don't really escalate that fast unless that's part of Dan's character, to be dramatic? I could see that kind of reaction if Joel had given Taylor a play by play of the sex scene in the first weekend or something. Just the missing necklace, which can happen, makes it feel pretty contrived.
That said, don't really think Taylor is a jackass. Poked, yes. But clearly didn't mean to get THAT reaction.
That said, don't really think Taylor is a jackass. Poked, yes. But clearly didn't mean to get THAT reaction.
It is clear that Dan hates Taylor. It's probably jealousy. He feels that Joel might be closer to Taylor than to him.
Taylor here plays the role of the "boy(girl)friend's dangerous friend". You know, the one that your partner will go to if he fights with you or the one who knows stuff that even you don't know despite being his boyfriend. Dan dislikes Joel being close to Taylor. Jealous!
On top of that, Taylor constantly comments on their relationship with a certain passive agressive tone that gets on Dan's nerves. Chances are that Taylor doesn't like D and J's relationship for them being gay, just doesn't like Dan as a person (he might feel his friendship threatened by him), or even might feel something for Joel and he is hiding it.
So conclusion, he is in one way or another, a threat to Dan and Joel's relationship. So burn him :D
Taylor here plays the role of the "boy(girl)friend's dangerous friend". You know, the one that your partner will go to if he fights with you or the one who knows stuff that even you don't know despite being his boyfriend. Dan dislikes Joel being close to Taylor. Jealous!
On top of that, Taylor constantly comments on their relationship with a certain passive agressive tone that gets on Dan's nerves. Chances are that Taylor doesn't like D and J's relationship for them being gay, just doesn't like Dan as a person (he might feel his friendship threatened by him), or even might feel something for Joel and he is hiding it.
So conclusion, he is in one way or another, a threat to Dan and Joel's relationship. So burn him :D
...yeah. BIG warning sign right there that you're likely dating someone who's quite jealous there. I would not forgive someone for acting like that, ever. Forgiving small flaws is one thing, but that to me is a sign of pathological jealousy which will lead to abuse and then some. Of course, this is a comic and I doubt it will end this way, but in real life? Yeah no. I'd be walking away from that relationship REAL fast.
Scroll up a little and look at 
Harzipan's comment. This isn't about the necklace, you silly goose. The lines are there, now you've got to read between them.
Harzipan's comment. This isn't about the necklace, you silly goose. The lines are there, now you've got to read between them.
OH I know its not about the necklace. He is just VERY jealous of the dude and goodness knows why. But it proves my point. Its like the crazy girlfriends that go through all your contacts and forces you to delete all other women or men in case of boyfriends. I don't really accept people like that. A little jealousy is normal and acceptable, hell even I have it, but if you cannot trust your partner at all and you let your jealousy get to THAT level, yeah, you have problems.
I gave a big smile when I read your comment, not in an ironic way, I was truly happy that I got this feeling response from at least one person, it makes me happy because it confirms to me that my story is making all the "curves" it needs to make, like in a car track, because all of the curves are needed to complete the course and reach the end, ignoring the curves, the signs and going straight to the end would lead to a car crash, metaphorically.
I view relationships as a journey. I guess that's all I can say without revealing much. Peace!
I view relationships as a journey. I guess that's all I can say without revealing much. Peace!
Oh definitely. Relationships are indeed journeys. You learn much if you care to pay attention no matter how short it is and you better yourself with each of them if you take the effort. Just saying that, because I've learned much from mine, I can read warning signs of irreparable flaws that will end up in abuse, having been abused not once but twice, so I know to walk away, FAST, when I see them. And this is definitely one of those reasons. There is no reason whatsoever for him to act that way. Its clearly he is VERY jealous, from the moment Joel said I love you to the other dude. I love you doesn't mean I want you as a mate, it means exactly what it said. I love you. There are many kinds of love. For all we know he could be a brother to him. That's why Russian is a nice language in that aspect. There are like 13 words for love that describes the different types, from parents, to partners, brothers, friends, etc. I wish English had that (and Portuguese too! I am also Brazilian but for the sake of others who'd like to join in this conversation I'm keeping this in English lol).
*Random characters appears in this moment, in fanfic* God damn Dan. Everyone has some secrets. Maybe he didnt tell about it, beacuse you would've got mad like you did right now. I know that you feel unsecure cuz your boyfriend isnt telling everything to you but isnt it going little bit too much ?
relationships are like a journey to unknown. you find new unknown things from other person or maybe something new from yourself. Trust is most important thing, if you get mad or jealous, you should still talk about things that made you mad and maybe you find good reason for hiding some stuff.
I had to do that sorry about it xD. but is right. I had myself feeling too that Dan has some problems. Maybe jealousy or unsure about their relationship or maybe something even more deeper. Who knows what there will come but i kinda have a hunch, what is coming up and there might've been small hints about jealousy and untrust when looking back there. Maybe even that dragon boy has feelings for our yellow doggy boy and on purpose told about losing the necklase. Maybe we have triangle drama here.
but i cant wait to see what really happens in future of this comic.
relationships are like a journey to unknown. you find new unknown things from other person or maybe something new from yourself. Trust is most important thing, if you get mad or jealous, you should still talk about things that made you mad and maybe you find good reason for hiding some stuff.
I had to do that sorry about it xD. but
is right. I had myself feeling too that Dan has some problems. Maybe jealousy or unsure about their relationship or maybe something even more deeper. Who knows what there will come but i kinda have a hunch, what is coming up and there might've been small hints about jealousy and untrust when looking back there. Maybe even that dragon boy has feelings for our yellow doggy boy and on purpose told about losing the necklase. Maybe we have triangle drama here.but i cant wait to see what really happens in future of this comic.
I knew it was going to happen.
Anyway, I see the point of Dan here: since this necklace meant for both so much...well, almost loosing it and not tell it...sounds weird.
Anyway, Taylor may not be a Jackass (which I deeply doubt) still he should think more over words. And, BTW: it was no need of a genius for understand that Dan and Joel are mated, and when we talk with two mated guys, talking about past relationship is like to show no care about the actual mate.
At least, this is my opinion. I just hope that Dan will be mature enough to express his feelings.
Anyway, I see the point of Dan here: since this necklace meant for both so much...well, almost loosing it and not tell it...sounds weird.
Anyway, Taylor may not be a Jackass (which I deeply doubt) still he should think more over words. And, BTW: it was no need of a genius for understand that Dan and Joel are mated, and when we talk with two mated guys, talking about past relationship is like to show no care about the actual mate.
At least, this is my opinion. I just hope that Dan will be mature enough to express his feelings.
I don't understand why everyone is demonizing Daniel here. It's not just over a necklace, there something else going on here. His character has been off the whole comic, and considering how he is when alone and comfortable with Joel, I believe that Daniel simply bit off more than he can chew with the trip in terms of his comfort level with the relationship.
Not everyone has the best social skills, and if you add the discomfort that can come with being gay, you can easily see how one might not respond well in a situation like this. We haven't seen Daniel's life away from Joel, and from the looks of it, he's doing this weekend despite his insecurities because he is trying to be a good boyfriend to Joel.
tl;dr you all are too savage to Daniel
Not everyone has the best social skills, and if you add the discomfort that can come with being gay, you can easily see how one might not respond well in a situation like this. We haven't seen Daniel's life away from Joel, and from the looks of it, he's doing this weekend despite his insecurities because he is trying to be a good boyfriend to Joel.
tl;dr you all are too savage to Daniel
Hmmm.. Not sure how to feel. Lots of comments, lots of good points. But I can't shake the feeling that Taylor and Daniel are both in the wrong here. Taylor for OBVIOUSLY doing that on fucking purpose to start shit (For whatever reason, could be that he likes the other guy. Who knows.) but also Daniels for not hearing him out on what really happened. I do understand the whole "Hard to come to grips with new found sexuality" and blah blah, but that doesn't change the fact that the person who was his best friend tried to talk to him and over the entire trip, has been doing nothing but let every little thing get under his skin in every which way possible. As if, (and I am guilty of this myself in my previous relationship) looking for something to get mad over.
*Sits back and waits.* let us see if the things I have in the back of my mind turn out to be correct.
*Sits back and waits.* let us see if the things I have in the back of my mind turn out to be correct.
It was apparent from part 1 that he hadn't accepted his sexuality fully yet. Joel was to nervous to bring it up in fear of losing him and Daniel has conflicted feelings especially now that other guys are in play and he feels that being gay is something he can only share with Joel. Or something like that
Keep up the awesome work. Part 1 is my favorite comic of all time and I can see this one being a favorite too ^^
Keep up the awesome work. Part 1 is my favorite comic of all time and I can see this one being a favorite too ^^
Not trying to be overly critical, but from a storytelling perspective this is just forced drama, man, with a setup that seems rather contrived.
I mean, losing your shit over someone losing a necklace, another friend then finding it and not immediately being informed about something that, ultimately, perhaps wasn't really worth mentioning ASAP in the end (since hey, the necklace had soon been retrieved, so no big deal). You serious? Makes Daniel look like a completely unreasonable douche, kind of spontaneously.
Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely fine to give a character some flaws to overcome, but to have them surface out of nowhere and this in-your-face isn't the optimal way to go about it. I dun likey. :(
Btw, some people mention this may have something to do with his discomfort of being in a gay relationship, but I just haven't been able to pick up on that before. Am I missing something?
I mean, losing your shit over someone losing a necklace, another friend then finding it and not immediately being informed about something that, ultimately, perhaps wasn't really worth mentioning ASAP in the end (since hey, the necklace had soon been retrieved, so no big deal). You serious? Makes Daniel look like a completely unreasonable douche, kind of spontaneously.
Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely fine to give a character some flaws to overcome, but to have them surface out of nowhere and this in-your-face isn't the optimal way to go about it. I dun likey. :(
Btw, some people mention this may have something to do with his discomfort of being in a gay relationship, but I just haven't been able to pick up on that before. Am I missing something?
I'd actually seen your post on a different medium and wanted to react to it before realizing that I still had a FA account that I could talk from, since you actually put a ton of effort into your comment, haha.
I feel like those who are just looking at it from a point of view about the necklace question are only seeing something that is surface level, and I also feel like it's not quite fulfilling enough to say that there's a previous problem between Taylor and Dan, despite that being clear. Neither of those things are incorrect under any sense of the imagination.
Here's how I see it: the necklace is something that is an almost sacred bond to them, in that it not only represents their connection, but also represents Daniel's ability to be confident in his choice of being with Joel in the first place. Back in the first story, Daniel doesn't show the necklace, and initially dismisses a notion of closeness towards Joel by playfully saying that him holding the necklace after the whole time is gay - this basically makes the initial implication that he doesn't hold much credence in that as a memento for them both. We as the readers know that Joel has very clear feelings for Dan, and those feelings escalate when they're in the bed the first time. However, when Dan leaves, he shows part of the necklace himself. This is something that's -extremely- important to me in my eyes; it shows that Daniel has a large emotional confidence in Joel that he'd wanted to have in the first place, but wasn't sure if he could immediately (otherwise: why would he want to know if Joel liked him the same way that he liked Joel?).
So, the necklace bears an incredible importance in their relationship. In my eyes, Taylor is trying to imply some sort of triviality between the necklaces, basically wondering if it's a bother, and that's a clear no-no for Daniel. Taylor's shot back was a rude thing to do, no question - there's no justifying that and based off of the expression, he did it with exceptional deliberation. Earlier in the comic during the introduction, Joel mentions that Kate does a good job mediating things between them, and also mentions that Taylor can be a bit of a hard time. Joel also very casually throws a love you out there that seems to catch Dan off guard (which is also coincidentally towards Taylor, so yay, even more tension).
There is a lot more in play than just at the surface here.
EDIT: oh wow, I too missed the description of the post here, hahahahaha
I feel like those who are just looking at it from a point of view about the necklace question are only seeing something that is surface level, and I also feel like it's not quite fulfilling enough to say that there's a previous problem between Taylor and Dan, despite that being clear. Neither of those things are incorrect under any sense of the imagination.
Here's how I see it: the necklace is something that is an almost sacred bond to them, in that it not only represents their connection, but also represents Daniel's ability to be confident in his choice of being with Joel in the first place. Back in the first story, Daniel doesn't show the necklace, and initially dismisses a notion of closeness towards Joel by playfully saying that him holding the necklace after the whole time is gay - this basically makes the initial implication that he doesn't hold much credence in that as a memento for them both. We as the readers know that Joel has very clear feelings for Dan, and those feelings escalate when they're in the bed the first time. However, when Dan leaves, he shows part of the necklace himself. This is something that's -extremely- important to me in my eyes; it shows that Daniel has a large emotional confidence in Joel that he'd wanted to have in the first place, but wasn't sure if he could immediately (otherwise: why would he want to know if Joel liked him the same way that he liked Joel?).
So, the necklace bears an incredible importance in their relationship. In my eyes, Taylor is trying to imply some sort of triviality between the necklaces, basically wondering if it's a bother, and that's a clear no-no for Daniel. Taylor's shot back was a rude thing to do, no question - there's no justifying that and based off of the expression, he did it with exceptional deliberation. Earlier in the comic during the introduction, Joel mentions that Kate does a good job mediating things between them, and also mentions that Taylor can be a bit of a hard time. Joel also very casually throws a love you out there that seems to catch Dan off guard (which is also coincidentally towards Taylor, so yay, even more tension).
There is a lot more in play than just at the surface here.
EDIT: oh wow, I too missed the description of the post here, hahahahaha
Well... no, that doesn't matter. I could be the writer and this could still happen, it just means that Joel is the kind of character that won't see it the same way I would.
I'm just saying that from my standpoint if that situation were to happen to me in a potential partner, I wouldn't tolerate someone who's that overbearing that they can't trust me to be with another guy for any reason, especially after they said "I care about him more than life itself." First that line is incredibly cheesy, second if they said that and then got mad over something so little they clearly didn't care about the relationship, and clearly didn't mean the words they said in the first place.
Get where I'm coming from? Right now I see Dan as incredibly petty and manipulative for making Joel feel like he did something wrong over something so trivial. That's my assessment of the story so far.
I'm just saying that from my standpoint if that situation were to happen to me in a potential partner, I wouldn't tolerate someone who's that overbearing that they can't trust me to be with another guy for any reason, especially after they said "I care about him more than life itself." First that line is incredibly cheesy, second if they said that and then got mad over something so little they clearly didn't care about the relationship, and clearly didn't mean the words they said in the first place.
Get where I'm coming from? Right now I see Dan as incredibly petty and manipulative for making Joel feel like he did something wrong over something so trivial. That's my assessment of the story so far.
I dont quite get that. Its not really a secret, it probably wasnt even something worth mentioning. "I almost lost something." Maybe if he actually lost it and never got it back... Its like not telling him that he woke up that morning couldnt find his phone, then found it in the other room lol
Something is very clearly eating at him, I feel like Joel should make an effort to find out what. This isn't the kind of thing that's just going to blow over, they need to talk it out before something terrible happens. They mean so much to each other, I would hate it if that unravelled. u_u
Hey-
We have 2 situation here ( sorry my bad English)-
1st Taylor is bi, and he like Joel, or just wanma f*ck him, dunno.
2nd He wanna test they love " strong".
I dont belive Taylor is not assho*e becuse he was cool guy earlyer, i dont think he just turn bad guy
And i dont understand Daniel too, he have something in his anus, so mad ( for me no reason, we are " humans " we left things... and Joel say " dont this happend " so he dont left.
I hope everything be fine.
U do awesome job Zeta ^^
We have 2 situation here ( sorry my bad English)-
1st Taylor is bi, and he like Joel, or just wanma f*ck him, dunno.
2nd He wanna test they love " strong".
I dont belive Taylor is not assho*e becuse he was cool guy earlyer, i dont think he just turn bad guy
And i dont understand Daniel too, he have something in his anus, so mad ( for me no reason, we are " humans " we left things... and Joel say " dont this happend " so he dont left.
I hope everything be fine.
U do awesome job Zeta ^^
hmm, I see where this is going. Dude, you gotta trust him a bit more than that, you can't just assume that he takes it off to sleep with others he doesn't know.
Also guys, he's not mad at the fact that he lost the necklace, he's mad because he thinks that Joel's cheating on him. Honestly a necklace is a bit of a stupid thing to be a gauge of that but hey if it lets him sleep at night. Might wanna squeeze the salt from your urethra and wait for your boyfriend to tell you what happened before you storm off like that, big guy, it makes you hard to talk to in the long run.
Also guys, he's not mad at the fact that he lost the necklace, he's mad because he thinks that Joel's cheating on him. Honestly a necklace is a bit of a stupid thing to be a gauge of that but hey if it lets him sleep at night. Might wanna squeeze the salt from your urethra and wait for your boyfriend to tell you what happened before you storm off like that, big guy, it makes you hard to talk to in the long run.
Multiple things I see! I see that if zeta would had never said that Kate is a loyal friend (basically a good friend), then it would be obvious seeing this page. Also, I think Taylor might have a thing for Joel. Dan really doesn't seem to like him. Or Taylor is just a douche.
It seems to me that Dan’s just a bit inexperienced in these situations, and he’s reacting the only way he knows how.
The necklace is a symbol of faith and trust for Dan. The fact that Joel lost it has to rub him the wrong way, even more understandably when Taylor’s the one who found it and gave it back. I also think the necklace proves that Dan is a little bit insecure about his relationship, using the necklace to sorta say “this one’s mine”.
I think that, even though Joel’s and Taylor’s relationship is harmless, Dan perceives it as a threat. It’s possible that this has been made clear before, which is why Joel and Taylor seem standoffish towards each other. Much in the same way some people think straight guys can’t just be friends with girls, it’s possible that Dan sees Taylor “encroaching on his territory” merely by being friends with Joel. It’s also possible that Taylor, Dan and Joel have some history we don’t know about, but for now I’m proceeding on what info we do have.
All in all, I think this is an interesting start to a character/relationship arc. Even if I’m completely wrong I don’t think Dan has any intent at malice, he just feels a little betrayed. Which means there’s potential for growth. Curious to see where this goes xD
The necklace is a symbol of faith and trust for Dan. The fact that Joel lost it has to rub him the wrong way, even more understandably when Taylor’s the one who found it and gave it back. I also think the necklace proves that Dan is a little bit insecure about his relationship, using the necklace to sorta say “this one’s mine”.
I think that, even though Joel’s and Taylor’s relationship is harmless, Dan perceives it as a threat. It’s possible that this has been made clear before, which is why Joel and Taylor seem standoffish towards each other. Much in the same way some people think straight guys can’t just be friends with girls, it’s possible that Dan sees Taylor “encroaching on his territory” merely by being friends with Joel. It’s also possible that Taylor, Dan and Joel have some history we don’t know about, but for now I’m proceeding on what info we do have.
All in all, I think this is an interesting start to a character/relationship arc. Even if I’m completely wrong I don’t think Dan has any intent at malice, he just feels a little betrayed. Which means there’s potential for growth. Curious to see where this goes xD
Reading these comments that try to know why it happens and who's wrong between Taylor and Dan is funny. Especially about the ones that say that the necklace isn't really important. If you already readed Weekend 1, here's something about the necklaces that is kinda important. The necklaces was a trigger to their relationship to start. Maybe if they didn't had the necklaces with them, things could be different. Maybe it's because they was both wearing the necklaces that they decided to start it. And the thing is that something like this already happened to me. It actually a reason of my actual relationship. Firstly, here's the reason of why I broke with my ex-boyfriend. Or maybe better why I kinda atarted to date someone else than the boyfriend I had. My ex-bf was extremly jalous. Each time I was busy doing something, was going to furmeets, or whatever that I was saying to him that I was busy, he started tp say shit about my friends, my family, furries ( wtf, he is one), the things I like, myself, everything about me. Like if I had to take care of he all the time. So I wasn't sure anymore if he really loved me. So I started to date someone else. Someone that been my friend since last year. Someone that I believe that I could have a true love relationship. Someone more serious. Plus, for all the boyfriends and dates I had, here's one thing I wanted. I wanted from them a proof of their love for me. I wanted to feel that this relationship wouldn't be like a joke. That it was serious. Twizzle did nothing for this. My actual bf did. It was the reason why I decided to leave Twizzle and the shit he was saying about myself to start a new relationship with Jambo. Jambo lives at Montreal. Jambo came to Quebec City for Halloween, for me. Jambo sleept to my home after the Xmas furmeet we had. And the best of all, this night when he slept at home, he showed me what I think is the ultimate proof of his love. And what is really funny, is that it was a necklace. A necklace of two heart made of wood with our real name in the center of each. One heart with Jambo's real name and one heart with my real name. So, as the necklaces are important for Joel and Dan, especially for Dan it seems, this necklace that my bf bought is also important for me. And before anybody say that I am just overscared, I'll say this: maybe, but is that better that you have a relaionship with someone that maybe even don't love you and don't prove it to you or having a relationship that someone you can actually totally thrust cause he proved that he loves you? I would also reconsider yourself and your true feelings if you don't care if your bf lost the prove of his love for you and didn't tell to you. Here's also this relationship between Joel and Taylor. Seriously, Joel could have said "I like you" instead of "I love you". What I think is that the two Weekend comics bith represent a moment in relationships. The moment when you start and everything is good. The moment when you slowly start to start a relationship. And this weekend is about the moment when you slowly start to try to understand the personallity of your lover. Maybe the whole thing is a representation of long-distance relationships. Or relationships in the furry fandom.
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