
Great Job, Great Britain
Mistakes were made.
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It's not scary if you were aware how much of a misinformation campaign was going on from both side. The cherry on the top is still Nigel Farrage admitting that he lied to Brits:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201.....was-a-mistake/
Yeah the guy himself that called for Brexit is now admitting it was under a false pretense.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201.....was-a-mistake/
Yeah the guy himself that called for Brexit is now admitting it was under a false pretense.
Either way, it was angry people at the immigrants, or very misinformed people who have been lied to. So either way the UK (which I live in, Northern Ireland) is well and truely fucked, we were fine in the EU, sure there are people who say before we join we were ok and could look after ourselves but times have changed and the UK is still rather independant but has become a little more dependant on the EU, so we would be still better of being WITH then rather than saying fuck the EU...........ok rant over.
The population of London alone is greater than the population of the entire of Norway, Eastern Europeans are undercutting British workers left right & centre & the EU were demanding that we take an extortionate amount of Syrian "refugees" even after seeing what they have done in France, Belgium & Germany.
Immigration is a massively important issue to Brits & simply using words like Xenophobe & racist to try & shut down an opposing argument no longer works. The Left have trivialised that word so fucking much that people simply don't care if they're branded as such anymore.
Britain has an immigration problem! The EU were making it worse for us! Europe was a cancer that needed to be cut out long ago! If that makes me racist then tattoo a Swastika on my head & bring me a white pointy hood! I'll wear it with pride!
Immigration is a massively important issue to Brits & simply using words like Xenophobe & racist to try & shut down an opposing argument no longer works. The Left have trivialised that word so fucking much that people simply don't care if they're branded as such anymore.
Britain has an immigration problem! The EU were making it worse for us! Europe was a cancer that needed to be cut out long ago! If that makes me racist then tattoo a Swastika on my head & bring me a white pointy hood! I'll wear it with pride!
Whichever is the outcome, we hope to things getting better.
To all english, economy HAS to improve within a days or months. The problem still is the long-term economy which can be very, very damaged.
I'm in shock as European... And well, I love the UK and don't want anything bad happening to it and its people... In or out, I want them to have a better future.
To all english, economy HAS to improve within a days or months. The problem still is the long-term economy which can be very, very damaged.
I'm in shock as European... And well, I love the UK and don't want anything bad happening to it and its people... In or out, I want them to have a better future.
Oooor not. We don't know, time will tell us. For EU and UK.
For now, the leave campaigners have demonstrated that all were lies, and y'know... I HATE that. I'm sad because you leave, but I expected them to fulfill the promises. And I expected to be wrong about the negative impact. So I blame politicians for burying your future.
You'll do fine without us, and we without UK. Yes. But it will never be the same, and it's at the cost of more inconveniences for the UK .__.
Hey! And now give an answer to my curious side! xD Which were your reasons to Leave? I love debating, friendly, of course! ><
For now, the leave campaigners have demonstrated that all were lies, and y'know... I HATE that. I'm sad because you leave, but I expected them to fulfill the promises. And I expected to be wrong about the negative impact. So I blame politicians for burying your future.
You'll do fine without us, and we without UK. Yes. But it will never be the same, and it's at the cost of more inconveniences for the UK .__.
Hey! And now give an answer to my curious side! xD Which were your reasons to Leave? I love debating, friendly, of course! ><
A few months ago, I was offered a job in Berlin. Now that we're out of the EU, I would need a visa, and bunch of other documents in order to take them up on their offer. When I think about the generation of british kids below me who will struggle to get their first job (as I did), it makes me genuinely sad that there are now 27 other countries that are essentially closed off to them.
That's why I voted to stay. Because being a European adult in the 21st century is hard enough already. :I
That's why I voted to stay. Because being a European adult in the 21st century is hard enough already. :I
:/ Oh, f*ck. Those are bad news :/
Younger generations will have it worse. My dream was to go to the UK and, it sounds really silly, but I dreamt to be english. I sincerely, hate my country, don't feel spanish... And this has hit me so hard... because now it will be much more difficul to fulfill my dream ;__;
But well.. We have two very weird years from now on to go without problem between our countries. After that, actual problems will begin.
Let's hope macroeconomics aren't right, economy worries me the most because it's chained to everything.
Younger generations will have it worse. My dream was to go to the UK and, it sounds really silly, but I dreamt to be english. I sincerely, hate my country, don't feel spanish... And this has hit me so hard... because now it will be much more difficul to fulfill my dream ;__;
But well.. We have two very weird years from now on to go without problem between our countries. After that, actual problems will begin.
Let's hope macroeconomics aren't right, economy worries me the most because it's chained to everything.
To you young people who supported Remain, do not despair. The vote was a close one, the margin made up of the current generation who have seen what the EU has done. But we are the next generation who can shape what the EU, or another European project, can and will be in the years to come. Hold onto the ideas of co-operation and friendship - we need them now more than ever.
You do realize that EU is probably the less totalitarian organization in existence, since the vast majority of decisions taken, that are then turned into laws, needs the agreement of ALL 28 states. Yes, they require unanimity on a great many things before proposals become laws and regulations. Just take a look at the EU website and look for their rules and the treaties governing how it must work.
Oh, man... That's a terrible lack of information.
Let me make a comparison and irony. Spain WANTS the EU to censor our president, wants them to stick their noses in our bussiness because of the corruption, and... well, a growing dictatorship. What do they do with us (note we have €, we are far more "subjugated" to them)?
Nothing... They denounce us to the UN, but states "we can't censor anything. We can't do it because it wouldn't be democratic."
Is that... totalitarian? And believe me... EU COULD punish us because we are not paying our debt... And they don't do it. Is that totalitarian?
You had your sovereign, UK has never lost it and neither my country. Ow, we could have changed the EU from inside, not leaving.
Well, this is my argument so far .__. I respect your decision anyways, but that lack of information about EU... I had to tell you.
And I AGREE WITH YOU. For me the most reasonable reason to vote Leave is the false believing of UK's loosing their own sovereign because of the EU... but I'm angry at people voting Leave for stupid reasons and OF COURSE... with the politicians whose promises were a lie.
Let me make a comparison and irony. Spain WANTS the EU to censor our president, wants them to stick their noses in our bussiness because of the corruption, and... well, a growing dictatorship. What do they do with us (note we have €, we are far more "subjugated" to them)?
Nothing... They denounce us to the UN, but states "we can't censor anything. We can't do it because it wouldn't be democratic."
Is that... totalitarian? And believe me... EU COULD punish us because we are not paying our debt... And they don't do it. Is that totalitarian?
You had your sovereign, UK has never lost it and neither my country. Ow, we could have changed the EU from inside, not leaving.
Well, this is my argument so far .__. I respect your decision anyways, but that lack of information about EU... I had to tell you.
And I AGREE WITH YOU. For me the most reasonable reason to vote Leave is the false believing of UK's loosing their own sovereign because of the EU... but I'm angry at people voting Leave for stupid reasons and OF COURSE... with the politicians whose promises were a lie.
Oh don't get me wrong. There were a few people who had a genuine reason to leave the EU. UK fishermen, for example, were getting screwed by the EU fishing regulations. If we'd have stayed in, that might have been something we could have fixed.
Unfortunately, even if your vote was made for a completely rational reason, this decision is now going to be used as a cudgel for all the backwards, jingoistic xenophobes to justify their hatred of everything non-British.
I hope you're prepared for a LOT of hate from the assholes on the stay campaign, bud. :(
Unfortunately, even if your vote was made for a completely rational reason, this decision is now going to be used as a cudgel for all the backwards, jingoistic xenophobes to justify their hatred of everything non-British.
I hope you're prepared for a LOT of hate from the assholes on the stay campaign, bud. :(
This is clear, to me, from all I've experienced AND learned. There are always a small amount of lunatics wanted to break away from the majority who are less fanatical than they.
Already in the USA where the southern states re-legalized Segregation, and also managed to apply a a law that state law always overrides federal law. Soon, one of these states, probably Texas, things will go to the worst situation and war ensues.
Ukraine's Civil War, UK splitting, USA slowly falling apart, fanatics want to reign supreme, and can only succeed by dividing from all others.
Already in the USA where the southern states re-legalized Segregation, and also managed to apply a a law that state law always overrides federal law. Soon, one of these states, probably Texas, things will go to the worst situation and war ensues.
Ukraine's Civil War, UK splitting, USA slowly falling apart, fanatics want to reign supreme, and can only succeed by dividing from all others.
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