Thank you, wise Floof!

*chuckles* your little furries are *SO ADORABLE!!*

That's cute, and tbh this really helped me, thank you :3

Jesus, this whole YCH bid sounds so complicated, i mean i get it why it exists now that ive read all this, but goodness.
All that complication for a CHARACTER SLOT and the grinding and the bidding and the yelling, it sounds all so stressful
I dont know how you deal with it, honestly im better off making commissions then YCH, this whole thing scares me and sounds so complicated...but i wish you luck on any YCH's here in the future. Good Luck to you *Bows*

It is very stressful. Its like managing a large DnD group. LOL!

It can be fun and a good way to get some money for a very VERY large project.

All in all, many of my YCH auctions turned out very positive and those who bid on slots were very dedicated, respectful and always came back for another YCH auction

its usually not very stressful for the artist. I know on my end I usually totally ignore the auction until the due date and let people bicker amidst themselves. So long as the winner provides their ref and pays on time and wasn't too much of a dick during the process, all is good!
It's not that much different than a commission, really. The only real difference is that the price fluctuates, there's no guarantee that you will get it unless you're fast, and you have no real control over the pose! It's a great choice for people who want art but have no ideas of their own.

Any more advice you think you could give, but for the artist's end? Just curious if you also made mistakes you learned from, or if you noticed flaws from some YCHs' rules o:

Yup, because rules aren't for customers only.

Yes, stick to your rules. Never change them for anybody.

PAYMENT ON TIME:
If someone says that they will be a few weeks late on payment, but you want to collect everything now so there will be less confusion on your end, tell the bidder to pay within the time everyone else is expected to. At most, give them a few days, but not a few weeks or months. You will be dealing with money, and the last thing you want to do is mess up and get a few payments lost, misplace or never show.

EVERYONE'S REF SHEETS:
You want to collect all winner's character sheets for your YCH illustration. One character YCH image is fine and simple, but dealing with several slots with several characters can be a hassle. You want to get started on the image ASAP and you need everyone's info. So be on the ball with asking the winners to send over their character info.

Those are the most important points

This is something all bidders should read. <3

Oh whow, these illustrations are so adorableeeeeeeeee >////////////////<

And the rules and explanations are really well made and clear. I already knew about this all, but, I can see how it can be very helpful, especially for the people who are just getting into it. If I ever get asked about ych info, I'll be sure to link this to the person asking me ^w^

Finally a guide someone could read even if he just watch the cute kitten try to explain it!

i love how you stressed the checking the budget lol i know too many people that could afford food because they bought art they couldnt afford

I have had people get SO MAD that someone outbid them on my auctions. Like they were actually accusing the person of trying to drive up the price with no intention of paying, noting me on the side to tell me I should disqualify the bidder... it was nasty.
Even if they were only driving it up and didnt intend to pay me, thats MY issue, not yours! I will handle it myself!

this is amazing. i've never had any complications when i've done YCHs other than maybe stuff just not selling. but this is so clear and readable. i'm gonna fave this and share with like... every artist i know that does YCHs x3

OMG yes! Ive never done a YCH here bid but all my close friends are talented artists whjo do them, andi see all kinds of comments and such. DEF gonna link ppl to this !

Would you mind someone including a link to this submission in a YCH description?

I completely agree, but that part was mostly for those who didn't win the slot or who can't out bid the other anymore. However, once the bid closes, all winning participants are required to pay in full and on time.

However, someone who wishes to bid must make sure they have enough, from the starting Bid price to the Auto Buy price.

If the winner can't pay, I sometimes go back to the previous bidder to see if they want it. I only do that if the bidding amount difference is not extreme. If the previous bidder can't pay, I understand if the person who was out bidder backed out completely. If that happened, I just re auction the slots as a semi lower amount to get rid of them quickly so I can start work on the YCH image ( don't like to keep my clients waiting long ).

I rarely black listed anyone from my YCHs. Only those who show disrespect to me or complain about the amount or the currency, or those who fail to pay get booted

Everyone runs their YCH differently. Some are laxed while others are complicated. The most important thing is to make sure that those who wish to be part of your YCH auctions know your rules and regulations

Just to be clear, I'm just offering my point of view and you can disregard it all you want.

But I would like to explain why I personally disagree with this idea. Once you are outbid in a traditional auction, your offer has been officially declined by the seller. The seller can not re-enforced a declined offer, this is due to the fact that so many problems that can arise as a result of trying to enforce a failed bid. Like how long does the person has to hold onto these funds before it is safe for the out-bidder to use these cash again? A week, two weeks, a month? And what if the original winner pays but is then able to be refunded a couple of months later? Is the out-bidder still bound to pay for that auction piece? Is it reasonable to ask a person to hold onto these funds for such an unpredictable length of time? And what system do you have in place to inform each and every one of your out-bidders that it's now okay to use that money on something else?

I feel that it would be easier on all parties if the auction was simply restarted as such rules would get overly complicated and hard to enforce. But if want to continue using your current method then that's fine, it's your auctions so you can do things how you please. But I'd recommend making that rule very clear on your auctions (such as as it's not a universal rule) and informing how long they are 'locked' into that bid for. Just my recommendations.

Of course, and you can run your auctions how you please. It's just I'm used to observing auctions that are outside the fandom where these types of rules don't exist (eBay for example). Because of that, I do not expect these such rules to exist on other places and I know many other potential buyers will feel the some way. As soon as I lose an auction, I expect that I will be able to use that cash to use on something else immediately as I am no longer obliged to keep it.

So like I said previously, just adding a rule that you expect failed bids to keep their funds for payment for a specified length of time would help clear things up greatly.

Okay, I was not aware of that on eBay, I'm more use to witnessing large scale bids such as houses or cars auctions so it's not really a thing there. Regardless, thank you for bringing that to my attention. I apologize and retract what I've said, so continue with your auctions how you please.

I'm not entirely sure why it's like that either, I think it's just because of the complexity of dealing with large amount of cash and legal exchange of ownership of these items. XD

Well I'm glad that you appreciate my words as I only do want to try to help.
I personally wouldn't have a problem following the whole waiting 24 hours rule if I had lost an auction, just as long as it's clearly stated in the auction rules. But yeah, playing around with the rules so you can figure out what works best for both you and your commissioners is the best thing to do, and if it turns that the 24 hour rule works best then go for it.

Wait, people have straight up said they bid but wouldn't pay???

What on earth did they expect to have happen?

I know right.
OMG I didn't know bidding was so hard to understand. Especially the part of actually paying what you bid for.

I feel sorry for the artists that have to put up with people, they have more patience then I do and I applaud them for that.

They are fantastically cute and wonderful. I love these so much. ^^

Very informative and cute, and cute is the best way to be informative. :3

Know it all already. Still read it cos it's cute. :D

Great little piece.

I am very salty PussyCat wasn't the one doing the tutorial.

You make everything cute, *dies of cuteness*

Best tutorial for Ych Auction, very cute and clear ^3^ Good job !

So cute! Thank you!

What if the finished product is lower quality than the blank slate that was offered and compared to their other art?

THIS IS SO CUTE!!!

faved so much, so nice to have it out there

i taught AB meant auto buy instead of auto bid, i might be wrong on that though

You are correct. It has been fixed

Neat! Well written

What about YCH for two in it. We're two furs win . One paid and the other one didn't pay yet.

Super! Another useful resource! Thanks!

Something i wonder is, are you allowed to re-post commissioned artwork containing your character, at your own FA
(still giving credits to the artist and link to the original post)? Do you need approval from the artist to do so etc?

(Ofc, this is if nothing is mentioned in their rules for commissions and YCH)

Some artists don't let the client post their artwork anywhere else but on the artist's page while other artists have no problem with the client posting the art anywhere they like as long as the client:

- does not alter, sell, reproduce or transform the commission without artist's approval.
- whenever the client posts the image anywhere online, the artist who did the commission must be credited.

I find it difficult when the artist is rather big and dosent read comments / notes and has not written anything anywhere, how would you find out :/
I guess that if you cant get an answer, the best thing would be to just let it be.

I personally put this on every note with the finished commission to my clients:

# This file is for your personal printing freedom ONLY ( no selling, distributing, altering allowed ). DO NOT UPLOAD this file online. Its too big!

# This file you can post anywhere online.

I give the client two files, one is high res for their personal printing freedom ( basically they can print it and hang it on their wall deal ), the other is a web version where they can post it anywhere they wish.

However it is just plain COMMON COURTESY and COMMON SCENE that, if the artist wishes to post their paid commission online, they should put a name and link to the artist who created the piece so the artist themselves can get more clients.

Yup, wish everyone would do so x3

Thanks for the answers ^^

" if the CLIENT wishes" sorry

Chibis make the best teachers

This is amazing! you've cleared a lot of my doubts about making these, thanks!