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On an individual scale, I agree that our difference is what makes us who we are, but to a certain extent depending on the fact how severe each of our differences are. For example, I don't want to water flowers that adore necrophilia, beastality, incest, pedophilia, or cub porn.
In addition, on a collective scale as a group, some ideological, cultural, or religious concepts are incompatible with our western values, thus integration and assimilation does not occur. Instead, we get rising tensions. I for one dislike communism due to historical reasons. I have a bloodline in the family from a country that was oppressed under the Soviet regime. Another good examples are Islamic jihadists and Shariah law. I know a lot of people of the LGBT community dislike certain branches of Christianity, such as the Westboro Baptist Church, for their discriminatory attitude towards gay people when they protest with signs "God Hates Fags", but having Islamists attempting to enforce shariah law is much worse, because as what happened in Orlando proves it, Islam encourages the followers to kill LGBT people. In my opinion, that's worse than having a bunch of Christian radicals protesting their hate speech towards LGBT under the first amendment as it is still their right to freedom of association and disassociation. As long as they don't do the same thing as the Shariah freaks; physical violence and death penalty against LGBT people, it is best to ignore their ignorant closed mindset and not water their flowers. But of course, we all know that mass media will not target the real radicals who want to oppress women and kill gays, because it is politically incorrect according to our current establishment that promotes globalism over our people's interests.
In conclusion, some flowers deserve to be watered, and some flowers turn out to be weeds pretending to be flowers.
In addition, on a collective scale as a group, some ideological, cultural, or religious concepts are incompatible with our western values, thus integration and assimilation does not occur. Instead, we get rising tensions. I for one dislike communism due to historical reasons. I have a bloodline in the family from a country that was oppressed under the Soviet regime. Another good examples are Islamic jihadists and Shariah law. I know a lot of people of the LGBT community dislike certain branches of Christianity, such as the Westboro Baptist Church, for their discriminatory attitude towards gay people when they protest with signs "God Hates Fags", but having Islamists attempting to enforce shariah law is much worse, because as what happened in Orlando proves it, Islam encourages the followers to kill LGBT people. In my opinion, that's worse than having a bunch of Christian radicals protesting their hate speech towards LGBT under the first amendment as it is still their right to freedom of association and disassociation. As long as they don't do the same thing as the Shariah freaks; physical violence and death penalty against LGBT people, it is best to ignore their ignorant closed mindset and not water their flowers. But of course, we all know that mass media will not target the real radicals who want to oppress women and kill gays, because it is politically incorrect according to our current establishment that promotes globalism over our people's interests.
In conclusion, some flowers deserve to be watered, and some flowers turn out to be weeds pretending to be flowers.
Wow, someone went there, and I am responding to this. *takes a deep breath and collects his thoughts*
I will start off by saying that by definition, weeds are only weeds because they find themselves flourishing in a favorable environment for their growth. This is important, because weeds usually have started out in harsh environments, such as rocky mountains where there's not a lot of dirt. Many of them in modern times were created due to them being transplanted somewhere else, where they didn't realize how out of control the weeds could get.
So, based on the above definition, in a controlled environment, weeds can be a good thing and can in fact bear beneficial fruit. For example, take three weeds from the Pacific Northwest (where I live): the Himalayan blackberry, dandelions, and English ivy. The Himalayan blackberry can quickly take over a property here if left unchecked, and has a thick vine with nasty, sharp thorns, but some people like them because it bears a sweet yet tart berry. Dandelions, similarly, can take over a yard or cracks in a concrete driveway within a year, but can also be pretty to look at when planted in the right place and are actually edible. As for English ivy, that plant was originally used as decoration around buildings, but was found to be so tenacious that it ate away at any cracks mortar and concrete.
Why am I talking about all this? Well, its because I feel these apply very much to your viewpoints. To you, the extremes that you see are the equivalent of a big bramble of blackberries, cutting everything up that tries to get around them. However, you're only seeing the outermost thorns, the extreme few who are intent to cause harm. But, the islamic religion bears many berries, and just because there are a few vines that are hurting people does not mean we condone the entire plant.
In fact, we have other extreme factions in the USA, engaging in violence against people with various differences. By this, I don't just mean race, I don't just mean gender, I even mean things like the google glass fiasco, which yes got some people beat up for wearing them. Everyone has a bit of hatred in them, you do and so do I, and there will always be someone who considers us a weed. Due to this, weeds will always exist, and if you try to completely bring them under control you may find that you've killed all the other plants around them.
Stepping back from this analogy now, there can be benefits to those who push the boundaries of society as well. If everyone engaged in "acceptable" behavior within a society, then that society would never move forward. It is those who challenge the social norms, in both twisted and benign ways, that help us re-examine our rules and ultimately shed light on those who have been hurt by them. We need the extremists, as much as they hurt people, because they also show us where our weaknesses are and force the tough questions to be asked. That doesn't mean you can't hate them, but they are a part of life, and while one specific group may disappear, another will always show up using the same methods. Indeed, one person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist.
Well, that's my rant for the morning.
I will start off by saying that by definition, weeds are only weeds because they find themselves flourishing in a favorable environment for their growth. This is important, because weeds usually have started out in harsh environments, such as rocky mountains where there's not a lot of dirt. Many of them in modern times were created due to them being transplanted somewhere else, where they didn't realize how out of control the weeds could get.
So, based on the above definition, in a controlled environment, weeds can be a good thing and can in fact bear beneficial fruit. For example, take three weeds from the Pacific Northwest (where I live): the Himalayan blackberry, dandelions, and English ivy. The Himalayan blackberry can quickly take over a property here if left unchecked, and has a thick vine with nasty, sharp thorns, but some people like them because it bears a sweet yet tart berry. Dandelions, similarly, can take over a yard or cracks in a concrete driveway within a year, but can also be pretty to look at when planted in the right place and are actually edible. As for English ivy, that plant was originally used as decoration around buildings, but was found to be so tenacious that it ate away at any cracks mortar and concrete.
Why am I talking about all this? Well, its because I feel these apply very much to your viewpoints. To you, the extremes that you see are the equivalent of a big bramble of blackberries, cutting everything up that tries to get around them. However, you're only seeing the outermost thorns, the extreme few who are intent to cause harm. But, the islamic religion bears many berries, and just because there are a few vines that are hurting people does not mean we condone the entire plant.
In fact, we have other extreme factions in the USA, engaging in violence against people with various differences. By this, I don't just mean race, I don't just mean gender, I even mean things like the google glass fiasco, which yes got some people beat up for wearing them. Everyone has a bit of hatred in them, you do and so do I, and there will always be someone who considers us a weed. Due to this, weeds will always exist, and if you try to completely bring them under control you may find that you've killed all the other plants around them.
Stepping back from this analogy now, there can be benefits to those who push the boundaries of society as well. If everyone engaged in "acceptable" behavior within a society, then that society would never move forward. It is those who challenge the social norms, in both twisted and benign ways, that help us re-examine our rules and ultimately shed light on those who have been hurt by them. We need the extremists, as much as they hurt people, because they also show us where our weaknesses are and force the tough questions to be asked. That doesn't mean you can't hate them, but they are a part of life, and while one specific group may disappear, another will always show up using the same methods. Indeed, one person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist.
Well, that's my rant for the morning.
That was quite an educational response in regards to weeds. It is true people love berries; although, when it comes to weeds that cause allergies or poisonous weeds which can cause skin irritation or blindness: I don't think anyone wants to water those type of planets. Imagine ISIS as one of those harmful weeds. What would you rather do? Rip them out the ground by their roots, or water them and watch them grow?
In regards to tolerance. It is more recommended to have a certain limit on tolerance rather than being excessively tolerant to almost any sort of abnormal behaviour. For example, incest leads to genetic illness and dysgenic fertility; child sex trafficking in India is thriving due to lack of discrimination and lack of zero tolerance towards pedophilia; necrophilia is the practice of sexual intercourse with corpses. I don't think these type of mental illnesses should be socially accepted.
In regards to tolerance. It is more recommended to have a certain limit on tolerance rather than being excessively tolerant to almost any sort of abnormal behaviour. For example, incest leads to genetic illness and dysgenic fertility; child sex trafficking in India is thriving due to lack of discrimination and lack of zero tolerance towards pedophilia; necrophilia is the practice of sexual intercourse with corpses. I don't think these type of mental illnesses should be socially accepted.
I agree. What I don't understand though is how a person or group of people
Can judge others and yet want to be accepted by society.
We all have come across a Furry that's rude, lies, causes problems, etc
And even a group of them that we can pair together
And sometimes even half the fandom if so;
But then later those people turn around to not accept someone for their kinks or
What they're into (Even if it's awkward) but they themselves turn around to whine
Saying they want to be accepted. I just wish people could accept everything and move on.
Like how some people like to be in fur suits and do sexual things or not.
Or how some people like to be tom boys and all that. It's just easier to nod and move along
And if it doesn't fit your Normality of Society then don't say anything and just move on.
Some times I wonder if Bob M. was right, if we lived in a world of hippies.. would it be better.
Probably. I just don't want people fighting anymore.. or judging.
Can judge others and yet want to be accepted by society.
We all have come across a Furry that's rude, lies, causes problems, etc
And even a group of them that we can pair together
And sometimes even half the fandom if so;
But then later those people turn around to not accept someone for their kinks or
What they're into (Even if it's awkward) but they themselves turn around to whine
Saying they want to be accepted. I just wish people could accept everything and move on.
Like how some people like to be in fur suits and do sexual things or not.
Or how some people like to be tom boys and all that. It's just easier to nod and move along
And if it doesn't fit your Normality of Society then don't say anything and just move on.
Some times I wonder if Bob M. was right, if we lived in a world of hippies.. would it be better.
Probably. I just don't want people fighting anymore.. or judging.
Here, I would argue that its good to have people who judge others that step outside of societal norms, just as much as its good to have people willing to step outside of the norm. Too much tolerance can be just as bad as too much intolerance, since both sides are equally likely to shut down much-needed debate. Without some level of intolerance, we don't know what right or wrong is, and without debate we will never be able to reevaluate what is right and what is wrong.
As an example, lets take murder. Most societies have laws against it, because they agree that its wrong. Yet, sometimes its found to be necessary to use it in order to overthrow an oppressive regime, such as during the french revolution. By all rights, those who killed the french aristocracy were going against laws about murder, but yet were hailed as heroes when the whole conflict was over.
What a society that is overly tolerant eventually comes to lack is a sense of ambition, which eventually will lead to a lack of progress. A stagnant society is one that doesn't question itself, that accepts all that is currently and will never waver in its views. I wouldn't want to live in such a place, because that would be a bland, boring utopia. We just need to be accepting of intolerance, embrace its existence and use it as a catalyst for questioning ourselves.
As an example, lets take murder. Most societies have laws against it, because they agree that its wrong. Yet, sometimes its found to be necessary to use it in order to overthrow an oppressive regime, such as during the french revolution. By all rights, those who killed the french aristocracy were going against laws about murder, but yet were hailed as heroes when the whole conflict was over.
What a society that is overly tolerant eventually comes to lack is a sense of ambition, which eventually will lead to a lack of progress. A stagnant society is one that doesn't question itself, that accepts all that is currently and will never waver in its views. I wouldn't want to live in such a place, because that would be a bland, boring utopia. We just need to be accepting of intolerance, embrace its existence and use it as a catalyst for questioning ourselves.
QwQ warms my heart so much~ also the cuteness and fluffy style remind me a bit of SpunkyMutt as well~
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