That is a good way to describe the feeling

*offers hugs*

If the metaphor is a brick wall being the problem, I'd say you move mountains by moving the small stones. Brute forcing your way through it won't fix it.

No task is insurmountable, if one can get the will to start, as starting or knowing how to start is always the hardest thing in anything.

After that is self discipline.

You may be missing the point. Saying 'Getting out of major depression just takes will and discipline' is like saying 'Getting out of a broken leg just takes a walk to the doctor's office'. It's a perfectly reasonable thing for someone without the problem to do; but if you actually have the problem, the nature of the problem itself prevents you from doing it.

And when you can barely motivate yourself to get out of bed, and the people around you say 'Just shake it off!' or 'Just work through it!', the thing that makes it all the more excruciating is that you know that most of them are earnestly trying to help.

Actually the exact opposite, I've had depression before, a dreadful state of mind with a vicious cycle to it if you let it... the point I stopped feeling sorry for myself, the point I started giving myself motivation, I actually started.

I started looking at when things didn't go my way as just a set back, I lose at something, I could always play another game. I lose interest in something, I find something else another hobby to get into.

I'm not telling her to punch down a wall... I'm merely telling her to live.

She has the liberty to make due with what she has, laying around doing nothing isn't going to fix the problem either.

I'm glad that worked for you. It didn't work for me, and it only made me spiral deeper, because now I felt guilty and bitter at failing to motivate myself.

The only thing that finally helped me was medication, because my brain chemistry was way, way off, and you don't fix that with motivation.

Once the medication had gotten me to the point where my brain was functioning normally, then I had to start relearning how life worked, and yes, then discipline was hugely important.

"Depression" is not a one-size-fits-all diagnosis.

Did I ever say it was, it only worked out for me only because I really needed to tell myself to stop being so critical of me and just get shit done.

If you need medication, yes by all means get that chemical imbalanced fixed after all we are biomecahnically human, we are just that in the end of the day.

The only thing that is similar is this, it's birthed from a position of self hatred and self pity. If that is what works, to stabilize yourself, then be pragmatic to know yourself to fix yourself.

Need a talk? Depression's never fun, but it may help to have a shoulder to lean on.

I've been there. And no, you can't punch through it. You need to find your way around it. Realize that some obstacles can't be blown through, but they can be bypassed, or scaled, or what have you. I know, I KNOW those walls seem insurmountable when you are in a depressed state. But they rarely ever are.

Find your way around the wall, it may not be as big as you think.

If you need to talk, I'm here.

I've been there. It isn't fun. Pills help.

I have been fighting depression for almost 40 years. Pills are useless for me...
Sometimes you can see over the wall or around it. Sometimes friends can help make windows to see through it... Sometimes it falls on you and reforms.

I have no magic solutions or answers for it. I hope yours eases for you soon.

Please take care.

sigh. yeah, i know this feeling all to well too. sorry to hear you feeling down lately, hope things will be better for you.

It's ironic, but it is what we have to do.

Remember that you have friends and an audience here, rooting for you. I know it's hard to remember the good things when down there in the darkness.

thats why i engage in stress-relieving activities, like Airsoft, video gaming, and destroying broken appliances in my backyard with sledgehammers/pickaxes/axes/etc.

maybe i could lend you my pickaxe for that wall there? ^_^

Are any of those broken appliances a dishwasher? I'd like to see what happens when dish soap is put in instead of detergent and then run it through a cycle.

I know that feel. Sometimes one have to loosen a brick in the wall first to break it ^^;

yeah... depression is a beast in life that really needs to be put to rest permanently... it's not the same as being "sad" or "bummed out" and worse off, it sucks the joy out of the things that DO make you happy.

so it upsets you WHILE takes away your coping mechanisms... truly a vile thing.

regardless. there are people who understand. people who will do everything they can to help, even if all they can do is simply BE there for you until things improve a bit. and i think by the comments here in the chat. you can see for yourself that you are not alone in dealing with this.

All you can really do about this is try to do things you love. even if you can't fully enjoy them. and hope, as we all will, that you can get through this bout with some semblance of speed. and we'll hope the next inevitable dealing with depression is not for a long time. but when it does come, we'll tackle it just the same.