This is my second attempt at making a song which defies musical theory. I mean, there's melodies and harmonies, but my idea was just to put together "sounds" that I liked, with no consideration for what those "sounds" actually are. On a side note, I'm sort of losing my mind at this point in my life. This stupid medication leaves me confused and disoriented. So, my intention was to play by my own rules with this song- but I'm not sure I even remember how to do it any other way.
So, critique if you'd like, just be aware that musical norms and general guidelines for composition don't really apply in this case. (Sorry,
chipuni) :D
So, critique if you'd like, just be aware that musical norms and general guidelines for composition don't really apply in this case. (Sorry,
chipuni) :D
Category Music / Other Music
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First and foremost, you're ALLOWED and EXPECTED to break music theory. What else are rules for, except for breaking?
Second, this song is great! I love how it shifts from melody to melody, softly moving. You've got great instruments, a good beat, a good melody, and fun chord progressions.
+fav.
Second, this song is great! I love how it shifts from melody to melody, softly moving. You've got great instruments, a good beat, a good melody, and fun chord progressions.
+fav.
Wow, I know you said that you just put the sounds in it that you liked but, It turned out great to my ears! and as to musical theory, pffft, I say forget it. Music should be about what you feel, what you like, heck music should be different for each person, different each day!! I play jazz and if you dont change the music to sound good to yourself then, well... I dont know, anyway thats my phelosophy (er however ya spell it)
Thanks a lot! I like jazz too, by the way, but I LOVE Swing. Anyway, I'm glad you were able to understand my take on this song, but I wouldn't be so quick to blow off musical theory altogether... You see, musical theory (as I understand it) actually has quite a lot to do with what sounds are aesthetically pleasing. But the "theory" part is a sort of science as to why certain arrangements work well, and others don't. When I put together a song with a purpose- the way I would normally do it- I am applying musical theory, whether I consciously realize it or not. (And this is how almost all musicians work, even first timers.) When I made this song, I basically just worked backwards. But to explain this process would be to begin a lecture on the concept of human consciousness itself, hence the title, "Philosophies".
Yah I can see what you mean on music theory how its basically is used when someone trys to put a peice together, but I think im meaning to focus on the practice of flowing with the music that you think it should sound like, thus how I stated before that music should change from person-to-person, and with this peice I feel like you presented more about yourself (and how you feel it should be played) rather than getting some thought across. I apoligize if im going in circles but im currently running on empty
I think it sounds great. I don't know much about theory to begin with, but I don't think it's the theory that makes a song good, it is, like you said, about sounds that you like. That's why I think that a lot of thrash metal bands today are successful; To give a stereotypical example: A lot of the songs are in C minor, but they will only use open fifth power chords. So I think that it's all about the sound. I can say I rarely use theory...take my song Seimei Suisei for example. I couldn't even tell you the chord progression I used, because I focused entirely on the sounds.
Thanks. And thanks for the fave, too! And, as for thrash metal... I've got a few different ideas about why or how the hell they become successful. But all that aside, in regards to when you use theory or not- I would say that you do. I don't know what chord progressions I've used in any of my songs (despite having gotten such encouraging reviews on them), but simply due to the order in which the brain tends to build music, I believe the vast majority of musicians do employ some aspect of musical theory, whether one means to or not. For a vague explanation of what I mean, see the above comment (in response to dabigbadwolf).
I agree. But I also think it's a choice that's up to the individual, and also the style. When I write under Craide, for example, since I write video game/classical, it's necessary to focus a little bit more on theory, and less on what your head tells you what's good, because it's focused more on rules. I think that theory can be, as you said, just a science of sounds, but it can also be rules e.g. scales, time signature, etc to keep it all in line. That's just my opinion.
Rules only serve as a basis for learning. Once you're good at something or once you've progressed far enough int something, you come to find that obeying the rules isn't necessary any more. Children will note that adults do this all the time, it seems.
By the way, the beat is very nice. These are very nice sounds (I know you make them all yourself.) and they are pieced together in a very pleasing way. Nice job, Joe.
By the way, the beat is very nice. These are very nice sounds (I know you make them all yourself.) and they are pieced together in a very pleasing way. Nice job, Joe.
Oh, no I don't make the sounds all by myself. I just use synthesizers like Sytrus. What I don't do is use samples (partly because I don't know how). But anyway, thanks for the comment. I think you've got a point about the rules, but keep in mind "the rules" are not the same as "musical theory". Musical theory, in my mind, is simply a process of thinking that all musicians use in order to achieve a particular tone, or sound that you may have in mind. I don't know- I'm sleepy and I'm rambling.
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