
How to Make a Mad Scientist
I love science. As an institution, a method for understanding our universe, and a body of knowledge encompassing all that we have been able to discern, theorise, and empirically prove about how everything works and fits together. Collectively it is one of the greatest and most enduring things that our species has created. As such, being able to identify myself as a scientist and point to ways in which I have personally contributed to this understanding is a point of pride to me, and something with a great deal of personal meaning. It is significant to me to be able to think about the work I do and feel that I am playing a part, however small, in making the world a slightly better place than it was the day before.
However.
Being a scientist can involve a great deal of frustration and anxiety, too. It’s not an easy career to take on, and even once you feel you’ve gotten a foot in the door and are beginning to establish yourself as a solid and capable researcher, you can find yourself blindsided by assessment standards, financial concerns, and political machinations that you knew nothing about and were not prepared for. In any employment sector we are all more or less human, and the same failings and uncomfortable realities surface in academia as surely as anywhere else. No matter how much you might love the work itself, no matter how passionate and driven and capable you are at doing good science, there are plenty of issues, mundane or otherwise, that can get in the way of the science itself.
And sometimes, despite all our extensive education, balanced thinking, careful reasoning, structured logic and a broad, systematic view of how all things fit together, we scientists still get really pissed off.
Personally, I’ve been dealing with some major career stress and uncertainty lately that has torpedoed my hopes of establishing a career in the sciences that would allow me to balance scientific ambition with personal stability and security. If I really want to do science, it may take more from me and my family than I am capable of giving. If I want employment that makes use of my skills and experience but actually gives me something back in the form of stability and career assurance, it may mean giving up science altogether. It’s a shit choice to have to make, given all that science means to me as I’ve outlined above, but as it turns out there are a few warm and scaley things in my life that mean even more to me. So, from the personal side, this image represents some good old-fashioned vent art.
More broadly, the wider applicability of the image is to resonate with all of you, fellow scientists or science enthusiasts or whatever else you may be. For all of us who have felt this fed up at some point in our lives. This is us standing up and staring in the face of everyone who’s ever told you that you aren’t good enough, that you haven’t developed quickly enough, that you aren’t driven enough and don’t have the right personality type for this work, that your career has been discarded for you by someone you’ve never met while you were busy doing the job they hired you for, that your paper isn’t insightful enough to get published, that your grant proposal isn’t impactful enough to get funded, that you’re a nothing more than a disposable tool as far as your administrators are concerned, that science is just another business venture and doesn’t really matter beyond the money it brings in anyway, that discovery and leaving a habitable world for our grandchildren matter less than short term profit, that global climate change is a hoax and scientists don’t really know what they’re talking about, that human society is better off fractured into nationalistic pockets of uneducated racist self-interest than working together for a greater common good, and anybody else who’s just flat-out pissed you off by being a damned idiot when they really ought to be capable of knowing better…
...and delivering directly to their face a loud, clear, heartfelt, shiny and double-barreled ‘FUCK YOU.’
However.
Being a scientist can involve a great deal of frustration and anxiety, too. It’s not an easy career to take on, and even once you feel you’ve gotten a foot in the door and are beginning to establish yourself as a solid and capable researcher, you can find yourself blindsided by assessment standards, financial concerns, and political machinations that you knew nothing about and were not prepared for. In any employment sector we are all more or less human, and the same failings and uncomfortable realities surface in academia as surely as anywhere else. No matter how much you might love the work itself, no matter how passionate and driven and capable you are at doing good science, there are plenty of issues, mundane or otherwise, that can get in the way of the science itself.
And sometimes, despite all our extensive education, balanced thinking, careful reasoning, structured logic and a broad, systematic view of how all things fit together, we scientists still get really pissed off.
Personally, I’ve been dealing with some major career stress and uncertainty lately that has torpedoed my hopes of establishing a career in the sciences that would allow me to balance scientific ambition with personal stability and security. If I really want to do science, it may take more from me and my family than I am capable of giving. If I want employment that makes use of my skills and experience but actually gives me something back in the form of stability and career assurance, it may mean giving up science altogether. It’s a shit choice to have to make, given all that science means to me as I’ve outlined above, but as it turns out there are a few warm and scaley things in my life that mean even more to me. So, from the personal side, this image represents some good old-fashioned vent art.
More broadly, the wider applicability of the image is to resonate with all of you, fellow scientists or science enthusiasts or whatever else you may be. For all of us who have felt this fed up at some point in our lives. This is us standing up and staring in the face of everyone who’s ever told you that you aren’t good enough, that you haven’t developed quickly enough, that you aren’t driven enough and don’t have the right personality type for this work, that your career has been discarded for you by someone you’ve never met while you were busy doing the job they hired you for, that your paper isn’t insightful enough to get published, that your grant proposal isn’t impactful enough to get funded, that you’re a nothing more than a disposable tool as far as your administrators are concerned, that science is just another business venture and doesn’t really matter beyond the money it brings in anyway, that discovery and leaving a habitable world for our grandchildren matter less than short term profit, that global climate change is a hoax and scientists don’t really know what they’re talking about, that human society is better off fractured into nationalistic pockets of uneducated racist self-interest than working together for a greater common good, and anybody else who’s just flat-out pissed you off by being a damned idiot when they really ought to be capable of knowing better…
...and delivering directly to their face a loud, clear, heartfelt, shiny and double-barreled ‘FUCK YOU.’
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ARG... this so beautifully sums up what every scientist should be doing to every science-hating moron, every uneducated, self-centred politician, sociopath or religious nutjob that stands in the way of human progress.
To me, scientists are the BEST of us - the highest ideal, where the need to understand and unravel the inner workings of life or the universe for the betterment of us all is the goal. They join Engineers, inventors tinkerers and other bold people who keep us moving forward, not back, and yet with ALL of their good work, there seems to be people that do not (or refuse to) understand and support them.
I hope that you can keep your career in science because dammit Dorey, the world NEEDS beautiful minds like yours. But i know too that your loved ones are the top priority. I really hope there is a way to make it all work. *hugs tight*
To me, scientists are the BEST of us - the highest ideal, where the need to understand and unravel the inner workings of life or the universe for the betterment of us all is the goal. They join Engineers, inventors tinkerers and other bold people who keep us moving forward, not back, and yet with ALL of their good work, there seems to be people that do not (or refuse to) understand and support them.
I hope that you can keep your career in science because dammit Dorey, the world NEEDS beautiful minds like yours. But i know too that your loved ones are the top priority. I really hope there is a way to make it all work. *hugs tight*
Thank you. :} *hugs back warmly* I've had frustration over all the anti-intellectualism that's been weirdly rampant in the US for years, but with all the career frustrations I've been dealing with the last few months that I've whined at you about elsewhere... this feeling's been building and building for me for a while, until just last night I think this image got in my head and I realised 'yes, that is the vent art I need to make to sum up how I'm feeling about all of this.'
I agree with you absolutely. Science is incredible and wonderful, everything it makes possible, and all the wonder and beauty that goes with it, that people like Carl Sagan and David Attenborough and others have done so much to bring to the masses. And it really is something I want to be a part of. So feeling like this administrative and political BS is potentially going to shove me out of it just... makes me feel not just frustrated and angry, but betrayed in a way.
I'll see what works out. Not giving up on it all yet, but I'm just going to keep exploring every avenue. And at this point if the next door that opens isn't a sciencey one, that'll probably be what makes the decision. A lot of me wants to be a scientist if possible, but a lot of me also just wants out at this point.
I've had several colleagues over the years tell me that science is a rough career to be in. It's terrible for stability and security, and it's crazy high stress, trying to juggle research with teaching with having to basically re-apply for your own job every few years because your institution doesn't actually pay you, you have to get yourself paid by winning grant money from research councils and whoever else you can beg money off of. It's a really hard career, but 'we do it anyway because we love it.' It's true, I love the work and it matters to me, but... I'm at a point now where I'm starting to feel like I may not actually love it -quite enough- to put up with this many negatives. The balance is looking less and less reasonable to me.
I agree with you absolutely. Science is incredible and wonderful, everything it makes possible, and all the wonder and beauty that goes with it, that people like Carl Sagan and David Attenborough and others have done so much to bring to the masses. And it really is something I want to be a part of. So feeling like this administrative and political BS is potentially going to shove me out of it just... makes me feel not just frustrated and angry, but betrayed in a way.
I'll see what works out. Not giving up on it all yet, but I'm just going to keep exploring every avenue. And at this point if the next door that opens isn't a sciencey one, that'll probably be what makes the decision. A lot of me wants to be a scientist if possible, but a lot of me also just wants out at this point.
I've had several colleagues over the years tell me that science is a rough career to be in. It's terrible for stability and security, and it's crazy high stress, trying to juggle research with teaching with having to basically re-apply for your own job every few years because your institution doesn't actually pay you, you have to get yourself paid by winning grant money from research councils and whoever else you can beg money off of. It's a really hard career, but 'we do it anyway because we love it.' It's true, I love the work and it matters to me, but... I'm at a point now where I'm starting to feel like I may not actually love it -quite enough- to put up with this many negatives. The balance is looking less and less reasonable to me.
Oh my gosh dearie are you okay? I zoomed in to the preview and chuckled once I saw the middle fingers, then got ragey when I clicked and saw your angered face, and then got worried with your tears there that maybe you got fired! D: *snugs and squeezes and worries over ya*
No no, nothing as bad as fired! The feelings are more general and spread out than that, around a lot of career uncertainty and frustrations of mine that have been spread out over the last couple months. All just coming to a head in some frustrated vent art. I still have a job for the moment and haven't done anything to get myself fired or anything!
It's just that my current position only lasts for the next two and a bit months, and I don't know what happens after that. I'm applying for jobs, and something might come through within academia via colleagues I've made during my recent work, but I don't know, and that not knowing is the biggest frustration. When the big expectation had been that when I finished the contract/project I was one, there would be another one for me and I could follow through like that until I worked my way into a permanent position and a stable career.
And then very suddenly this became not the case, where we found out that an admin higher up the chain had decided that I wasn't interesting and driven enough, I'd spent too much of the last three years 'only' doing my actual job rather than being all GO GET 'EM RAWR and applying for a bunch of funding and boldly defining my own research career and... stuff that I have actually been working toward more recently, but kind of thought was stuff you did as a lecturer rather than when you were still a postdoc. So there's this sense that my career's been let down because I was focusing too much on actually doing my current job. Rather than half-ignoring it for the sake of looking beyond it and doing a bunch of other stuff I didn't know how to do. And it all got decided that I wasn't interesting enough without my knowledge, until suddenly the answer to 'so we'd like to put Dorey on this new research project for his next role-' was a big flat NO. 'okay then, can we at least extend his contract on the current project a few months using the money we already have to give him a chance to help us actually finish up all the work we still have hanging-' NO. '...okay, well there's a three month position in a totally different department that has nothing to do with you, and the people there really want him, can he at least be put there so he actually has any job at all after Christmas?' I'D SAY NO TO THAT TOO IF I COULD SO INSTEAD I'LL JUST TRY TO BLOCK IT AS MUCH AS I CAN WITH GREEDY FINANCIAL BS.
So it's all frustrated me a great deal and made me feel kind of betrayed by the University and the entire system. So it's made me sad and cranky. hence vent art. :}
Something will work out. I would just like to know what. :P And sort of... feel that my skills and abilities are worth something to somebody, even if my personality type doesn't fit some exact mould they've predefined for me.
I should also note that this doesn't really represent how I'm feeling now, or most days or anything... it's kind of the distilled essence of how this has been affecting me for the last several months. Day to day I'm getting by okay, and the current role is working well enough for me. I just don't like that it's so temporary and short term.
It's just that my current position only lasts for the next two and a bit months, and I don't know what happens after that. I'm applying for jobs, and something might come through within academia via colleagues I've made during my recent work, but I don't know, and that not knowing is the biggest frustration. When the big expectation had been that when I finished the contract/project I was one, there would be another one for me and I could follow through like that until I worked my way into a permanent position and a stable career.
And then very suddenly this became not the case, where we found out that an admin higher up the chain had decided that I wasn't interesting and driven enough, I'd spent too much of the last three years 'only' doing my actual job rather than being all GO GET 'EM RAWR and applying for a bunch of funding and boldly defining my own research career and... stuff that I have actually been working toward more recently, but kind of thought was stuff you did as a lecturer rather than when you were still a postdoc. So there's this sense that my career's been let down because I was focusing too much on actually doing my current job. Rather than half-ignoring it for the sake of looking beyond it and doing a bunch of other stuff I didn't know how to do. And it all got decided that I wasn't interesting enough without my knowledge, until suddenly the answer to 'so we'd like to put Dorey on this new research project for his next role-' was a big flat NO. 'okay then, can we at least extend his contract on the current project a few months using the money we already have to give him a chance to help us actually finish up all the work we still have hanging-' NO. '...okay, well there's a three month position in a totally different department that has nothing to do with you, and the people there really want him, can he at least be put there so he actually has any job at all after Christmas?' I'D SAY NO TO THAT TOO IF I COULD SO INSTEAD I'LL JUST TRY TO BLOCK IT AS MUCH AS I CAN WITH GREEDY FINANCIAL BS.
So it's all frustrated me a great deal and made me feel kind of betrayed by the University and the entire system. So it's made me sad and cranky. hence vent art. :}
Something will work out. I would just like to know what. :P And sort of... feel that my skills and abilities are worth something to somebody, even if my personality type doesn't fit some exact mould they've predefined for me.
I should also note that this doesn't really represent how I'm feeling now, or most days or anything... it's kind of the distilled essence of how this has been affecting me for the last several months. Day to day I'm getting by okay, and the current role is working well enough for me. I just don't like that it's so temporary and short term.
Aw love, I know you would never do anything to get yourself fired, I only thought maybe work suddenly stepped up their stupidity. :/
You know what sucks? They're effectively saying you should have been more industrious than they would ever have hoped just so you could be competitive in your career, when we all know that they're just dangling a withered carrot over your head while extracting every last grain of performance from you. And I don't buy that for a second, not at all. Dicks.
Jeez what cock-juggling THUNDERCU-- •BANNED FOR TOS VIOLATION•
ahem...
well... as long as it's not every day you feel like this. This is a dream among dreams of yours. This is YOUR THING and I put myself in your shoes and (after making my home in them and nibbling and licking them inside) I just think what if I couldn't do my thing? My love and passion? I say keep on for now, do one day at a time. We'll see how we make this work out. We meaning your fambly, and friends, a lotta people who care. Fortify Doran, I can't tell you how many times everything fell into place at the moment I wanted to yank the eject lever. Keep on.
You know what sucks? They're effectively saying you should have been more industrious than they would ever have hoped just so you could be competitive in your career, when we all know that they're just dangling a withered carrot over your head while extracting every last grain of performance from you. And I don't buy that for a second, not at all. Dicks.
Jeez what cock-juggling THUNDERCU-- •BANNED FOR TOS VIOLATION•
ahem...
well... as long as it's not every day you feel like this. This is a dream among dreams of yours. This is YOUR THING and I put myself in your shoes and (after making my home in them and nibbling and licking them inside) I just think what if I couldn't do my thing? My love and passion? I say keep on for now, do one day at a time. We'll see how we make this work out. We meaning your fambly, and friends, a lotta people who care. Fortify Doran, I can't tell you how many times everything fell into place at the moment I wanted to yank the eject lever. Keep on.
Yeah, that's sort of my takeaway on it too. Thing is, some of my colleagues in the wider project I've been a part of basically -were- those sorts of people who were looking out for themselves and pushing forward their own career, making that the priority rather than doing the project and getting the science done. So what did they do? They left early, in the middle of the project, leaving behind a mess for the next person, their university having to scramble to hire somebody else to take over. During the three years I was on the project, the postdoc position at one of the universities we were working with, basically the post for 'person handling and processing all the aerial image data for the project so everybody else can use it' went through three people, because the first two got hired someplace else and left. The result was a mess for the rest of us, with a lot of this data that was supposed to be the foundation for a lot of the work not even being finished and made available to the rest of the project until about a month or two before the end of the whole thing.
So is that what they want? Because if I'm so driven and ambitious that I'm pushing forward my own career at the expense of the actual job I'm meant to be doing, the job will suffer and the science won't get done and everyone will have to keep getting to know the guy in my position over and over. And that really screws things up, as I've found. So I'd rather be somebody who can be trusted to actually do the work, rather than screwing everyone else over for my own gain.
So yeah, I'm taking it a day at a time, I'm keeping my options open and I'm trying lots of things. I'll see what doors open. If science continues to work out for me, great. But if the next door that opens for me is somewhere outside of science, but where I think I'll be happy, that's the way I'll go. *squeezes*
So is that what they want? Because if I'm so driven and ambitious that I'm pushing forward my own career at the expense of the actual job I'm meant to be doing, the job will suffer and the science won't get done and everyone will have to keep getting to know the guy in my position over and over. And that really screws things up, as I've found. So I'd rather be somebody who can be trusted to actually do the work, rather than screwing everyone else over for my own gain.
So yeah, I'm taking it a day at a time, I'm keeping my options open and I'm trying lots of things. I'll see what doors open. If science continues to work out for me, great. But if the next door that opens for me is somewhere outside of science, but where I think I'll be happy, that's the way I'll go. *squeezes*
you know what.... it's not even people of those groups. Those are subsets of a more general bunch of people who hate wisdom. Science does not bring wisdom, though it opens many roads to it. The question is do we want to push our own agendas out of the way long enough to pursue wisdom? And openly, nearly every time I haven't. And I pay for it. But I'm learning to pursue it. It is worth more than gold.
Ah yeah, all the frustration! I've been there too, sadly >_<
Academia and its inextricable bureaucracy as well as finance-driven labs. I clearly know this frustration for not having been deemed interesting enough to be published in some "high-visibility index" journals. And the struggle with institutions here to at least deserve not to be looked on down by some pedantic senior researchers having dwelled on the very same subject for 30 years and having produced nothing but variations on variations on previously published articles.
That's technically what drove me out of academic research :/ I hope you'll be luckier than I was!
I was also told the hard way that research, albeit innovative, shouldn't be more innovative than that produced by <insert renowned senior researcher's name> because they can't accept the lese-majesty of seeing their own research possbily outdated or superseded by younger researchers' productions.
Don't give up! But yes, give them the middle finger!
Academia and its inextricable bureaucracy as well as finance-driven labs. I clearly know this frustration for not having been deemed interesting enough to be published in some "high-visibility index" journals. And the struggle with institutions here to at least deserve not to be looked on down by some pedantic senior researchers having dwelled on the very same subject for 30 years and having produced nothing but variations on variations on previously published articles.
That's technically what drove me out of academic research :/ I hope you'll be luckier than I was!
I was also told the hard way that research, albeit innovative, shouldn't be more innovative than that produced by <insert renowned senior researcher's name> because they can't accept the lese-majesty of seeing their own research possbily outdated or superseded by younger researchers' productions.
Don't give up! But yes, give them the middle finger!
Ugh, that is absolutely terrible. >..< I'm sorry to hear you can relate that well to some of these frustrations, and it sounds like in ways your situation has been even worse. For me it's been crappy but ultimately can be chalked up to impersonal penny-pinching, which is honest enough in its own way. For you to have suffered from that kind of ego trip, and for them to be so blatant and unapologetic about it, is just abhorrent.
We'll see what works out for me, I'm not burning any bridges and I'm still open to making academia work, but man... the industry as a whole is starting to feel like it's really poisoning the well for anyone trying to start a career. And it's really going to come back to bite them sooner or later.
We'll see what works out for me, I'm not burning any bridges and I'm still open to making academia work, but man... the industry as a whole is starting to feel like it's really poisoning the well for anyone trying to start a career. And it's really going to come back to bite them sooner or later.
Wow. I now forever condemn and SHUN all old stuffy stupid wearing-tweed-and-smoking-pipes-in-Victorian-cracked-leather-chairs old played out research. SCREW DAT BIZ. That's horrible that you have/had to kowtow to such suckage.
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WHY ARE WE NOT ALL ADDRESSING THE ACADEMIC BUREAUCRACY??? /)@.@(\
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WHY ARE WE NOT ALL ADDRESSING THE ACADEMIC BUREAUCRACY??? /)@.@(\
I am always frustrated when I hear of science being held back by lack of funds. I'm royally pissed off when some naysayer suggests that science is a hoax or something similar, especially when the evidence is beating them in the face. It's the 21st century; we have self-driving cars, the entire planet is connected via the internet, and we're living two to three times longer than nature originally intended. Science should be our primary concern these days. If it can improve our lives, research it. If it cures a disease that kills us, develop it. If we're doing something that is going to destroy our only habitable planet, then stop doing it.
This nonsense about global warming being a scam is total bullshit. We have records of sea level rising, records of climate change, and visual indications of ice melting. This is like saying cars can't run people over while the tire is rolling over the person's face. All of this is because a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians want money for other things.
I haven't put a lot of serious thought into a conspiracy theory that I came up with several years ago. I jokingly deduced that a pharmaceutical company could develop the genuine cure to cancer and would profit more off selling partial cures. If they sold the perfect cure, everyone would get it and then the product would eventually lose its profitability once everyone was immune to cancer. If they say they found something that helps reduce the chance of cancer but not completely cure it, they can milk the profits from that for decades, especially if they keep coming out with a slightly better version. Of course, the CEO and his buddies get the real deal so they don't have to die from such a horrible disease and maybe some rich people who know how to keep secrets can buy themselves a shot of the cure. I wouldn't put it past corrupt humans to pull a stunt like this, but I don't want to believe this too much because I'd probably become one of those crazy nuts that thinks the government is out to get them.
I'm an engineer. I love to take things apart, fix things, and put them back together. That is my dream job. I wouldn't mind sitting in a workshop every day working on something. Go figure the military has a sort of bureaucratic nature when it comes to running things. They have the newest worker do all of the complex maintenance tasks and force the oldest, most experienced guys either stand by and watch without helping or sit in an office and shuffle around excessive amounts of paperwork related to said maintenance. I'm fixing Word documents and Excel spreadsheets while demanding to know why people haven't completed their certifications in an arbitrarily chosen period of time. I should be refurbishing steam plant valves or inspecting the internal components of a turbine generator. I would love my job if I could just come in and fix things, but I have to do desk work instead so that the military can justify paying me more and I can support my family.
I can't draw very quickly. If I could, I would draw myself standing next to you in typical engineer garments giving an equivalent one-finger salute.
This nonsense about global warming being a scam is total bullshit. We have records of sea level rising, records of climate change, and visual indications of ice melting. This is like saying cars can't run people over while the tire is rolling over the person's face. All of this is because a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians want money for other things.
I haven't put a lot of serious thought into a conspiracy theory that I came up with several years ago. I jokingly deduced that a pharmaceutical company could develop the genuine cure to cancer and would profit more off selling partial cures. If they sold the perfect cure, everyone would get it and then the product would eventually lose its profitability once everyone was immune to cancer. If they say they found something that helps reduce the chance of cancer but not completely cure it, they can milk the profits from that for decades, especially if they keep coming out with a slightly better version. Of course, the CEO and his buddies get the real deal so they don't have to die from such a horrible disease and maybe some rich people who know how to keep secrets can buy themselves a shot of the cure. I wouldn't put it past corrupt humans to pull a stunt like this, but I don't want to believe this too much because I'd probably become one of those crazy nuts that thinks the government is out to get them.
I'm an engineer. I love to take things apart, fix things, and put them back together. That is my dream job. I wouldn't mind sitting in a workshop every day working on something. Go figure the military has a sort of bureaucratic nature when it comes to running things. They have the newest worker do all of the complex maintenance tasks and force the oldest, most experienced guys either stand by and watch without helping or sit in an office and shuffle around excessive amounts of paperwork related to said maintenance. I'm fixing Word documents and Excel spreadsheets while demanding to know why people haven't completed their certifications in an arbitrarily chosen period of time. I should be refurbishing steam plant valves or inspecting the internal components of a turbine generator. I would love my job if I could just come in and fix things, but I have to do desk work instead so that the military can justify paying me more and I can support my family.
I can't draw very quickly. If I could, I would draw myself standing next to you in typical engineer garments giving an equivalent one-finger salute.
Yeah, absolutely feel the same way. We really ought to be far enough along by now as a society that we understand the value of science and, well, even a basic foundational education. But the US in particular of late is just awash in a tide of what seems to be stubborn and even proud anti-intellectualism.
As you say, the evidence proving that global climate change is in fact happening, and that our actions as an industrialised society are causing it, is crushing. And this is the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community. The only disagreement or uncertainty is in the details and exact nature and extent of the impacts. That it is a serious problem that we need to stop ignoring is not in dispute. Hand in hand with this there is also a wealth of research and recommendation about what we can and must be doing to mitigate the effects and start turning things around... the solutions are all right there, but only if we start acting on them. If we keep waiting and the world's decision makers remain focused on the short term, it's going to get very, very bad. Give it just thirty or forty years from now, maybe less, and the impacts are going to start really ramping up, and society is going to look back at us right around this time. They'll see how climate science was somehow seen as a divisive political issue, how America elected the people it did, and history is going to collectively tear out its hair and scream, 'WHAT WERE YOU IDIOTS THINKING???'
...So yeah, I get impassioned about this. Your hypothetical conspiracy is -probably- too dark to be true, but it seems plausible all the same, and you can see how the kind of thinking that's dominating right now could lead to it. We're already ruining the planet for the future of our civilisation by focusing so completely on short term gains and politics. If you're faced with a choice whereby you could eliminate a great evil from the world, but doing so would also destroy the business model by which you and those like you are getting very rich... it shouldn't even be a choice, and yet so many interests are only focused on that short term money element. Who gives a crap what happens to the world your grandchildren will have to live in if you aren't around anymore.
There's a lot to be frustrated about with how the world feels to be working right now, not least in terms of employment and careers and just trying to find a place to fit in and make an honest living. I don't want to focus only on the negative and spend my life whining and complaining, and most of the time I'll be out there trying to find solutions and make things better... but in the meantime, it feels good to have you standing there beside me, being cranky and defiant too. :)
As you say, the evidence proving that global climate change is in fact happening, and that our actions as an industrialised society are causing it, is crushing. And this is the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community. The only disagreement or uncertainty is in the details and exact nature and extent of the impacts. That it is a serious problem that we need to stop ignoring is not in dispute. Hand in hand with this there is also a wealth of research and recommendation about what we can and must be doing to mitigate the effects and start turning things around... the solutions are all right there, but only if we start acting on them. If we keep waiting and the world's decision makers remain focused on the short term, it's going to get very, very bad. Give it just thirty or forty years from now, maybe less, and the impacts are going to start really ramping up, and society is going to look back at us right around this time. They'll see how climate science was somehow seen as a divisive political issue, how America elected the people it did, and history is going to collectively tear out its hair and scream, 'WHAT WERE YOU IDIOTS THINKING???'
...So yeah, I get impassioned about this. Your hypothetical conspiracy is -probably- too dark to be true, but it seems plausible all the same, and you can see how the kind of thinking that's dominating right now could lead to it. We're already ruining the planet for the future of our civilisation by focusing so completely on short term gains and politics. If you're faced with a choice whereby you could eliminate a great evil from the world, but doing so would also destroy the business model by which you and those like you are getting very rich... it shouldn't even be a choice, and yet so many interests are only focused on that short term money element. Who gives a crap what happens to the world your grandchildren will have to live in if you aren't around anymore.
There's a lot to be frustrated about with how the world feels to be working right now, not least in terms of employment and careers and just trying to find a place to fit in and make an honest living. I don't want to focus only on the negative and spend my life whining and complaining, and most of the time I'll be out there trying to find solutions and make things better... but in the meantime, it feels good to have you standing there beside me, being cranky and defiant too. :)
It's very scary to see how uneducated the general population seems to have become. I can't tell if I'm just getting more mature and wiser or if the people around me are getting more childish and dumber. I think one thing that hasn't helped is the internet, in one form or another. For a moment, ignore the fact that there is a lot of misleading information put out on the internet. Just think about the availability of the internet these days. When I grew up, you had to find time when nobody was using the landline to connect to the internet and search for something. Now, everyone carries the internet in their pocket. If they need to know something, they look it up. There's no need to remember as much, so people are arguing that they don't need as much education. "I'll learn it when I need it." Next thing you know, people are trapped in a burning building because they can't read the sign on the door that says pull instead of push. With any luck, our future generations will recognize that some of us were trying as hard as we could to get people to see reason, but our voices were drowned out by the collective, "Durrrrr!!"
I think we, as a society, could automate a lot of menial tasks that nobody would want to do unless they absolutely need a job or they get paid ridiculous amounts of money to do it. The only problem is that automating things results in fewer jobs, which means less money for working families, and therefore poverty. I would like it if we could have a society without money where everyone gets what they need with the push of a button, but we don't have matter replicators like in Star Trek, so somebody still has to collect raw materials and turn them into goods. If we let the government decide who gets what and who makes it, we have socialism/communism, which have been proven ineffective economic systems. I want to live in a world where we work to understand the universe and to better ourselves as a species, but I don't think I will live to see the day that the rich surrender their status and power so that everyone can be equally happy.
I think we, as a society, could automate a lot of menial tasks that nobody would want to do unless they absolutely need a job or they get paid ridiculous amounts of money to do it. The only problem is that automating things results in fewer jobs, which means less money for working families, and therefore poverty. I would like it if we could have a society without money where everyone gets what they need with the push of a button, but we don't have matter replicators like in Star Trek, so somebody still has to collect raw materials and turn them into goods. If we let the government decide who gets what and who makes it, we have socialism/communism, which have been proven ineffective economic systems. I want to live in a world where we work to understand the universe and to better ourselves as a species, but I don't think I will live to see the day that the rich surrender their status and power so that everyone can be equally happy.
Yeah, it really is. The number of responsible adults who seem to be functioning without a basic appreciation for how things work, what makes science different from guesswork, and how and why you need to verify things people say to separate fact from fiction. Yes, it's -easier- to just blindly swallow whatever you see on your Facebook feed if it seems to align with the opinions you already have, but that's how entire sections of the population end up deceived and manipulated. The fact that so many people can go through the public school system and not seem to understand the difference in validity between the BBC News and Upworthy.
The internet is definitely a double-edged sword, and it does enable a lot of incredible things. You can walk around with a device in your pocket that is capable of immediately accessing basically the entire knowledge of the human civilisation. This is amazing and wonderful and powerful, but it brings a responsibility with it to be able to separate truth from fiction, and fact from opinion. And not of all of us seem to have really figured out how to do that yet, or how to teach others to do it.
I'd really like to live the world you propose too. :} That's one of things I've always loved the most about Star Trek, is that it showed us a vision of the world where we felt like that was possible. That we could get better and plausibly work toward a world without inequality and hunger and poverty, where we distributed resources intelligently and fairly so everyone had enough. I certainly don't see such a world happening anytime soon or in our lifetime, but I think it's still worth pushing toward.
The internet is definitely a double-edged sword, and it does enable a lot of incredible things. You can walk around with a device in your pocket that is capable of immediately accessing basically the entire knowledge of the human civilisation. This is amazing and wonderful and powerful, but it brings a responsibility with it to be able to separate truth from fiction, and fact from opinion. And not of all of us seem to have really figured out how to do that yet, or how to teach others to do it.
I'd really like to live the world you propose too. :} That's one of things I've always loved the most about Star Trek, is that it showed us a vision of the world where we felt like that was possible. That we could get better and plausibly work toward a world without inequality and hunger and poverty, where we distributed resources intelligently and fairly so everyone had enough. I certainly don't see such a world happening anytime soon or in our lifetime, but I think it's still worth pushing toward.
I certainly feel you man. I think any science field is going to be fast paced and will demand so much out of you. Even in the engineering field, there are days that I want to throw in the towel and choose another field of work, but all it takes is some strength and will power to get through it. I hope that you're still doing alright over there and things at work get better for you. It can be a real roller coaster, so things are bound to get back up soon enough! If you ever need someone to talk to about junk, I'm not going anywhere, I'll will always here for you! *draggy hugs*
Yeah, it feels like a lot of industries/sectors are just getting more and more mad, starting to trip over themselves and burn out their workforce in the headlong rush to produce as much as possible. There needs to be a realistic and sustainable pacing. I'm not giving up on science and I'd like to make it work if I can, but I'm considering a lot of options right now. I want to do work I can really care about, but I also want to be able to provide a safe and stable life for those who depend on me and not drive myself absolutely nuts.
Thanks though, I appreciate it. :) I'm here for ya too. *hugs!*
Thanks though, I appreciate it. :) I'm here for ya too. *hugs!*
Exactly! Sadly it's all about profit. I know at least in engineering and manufacturing, to compete with Chinese companies and keep up quality, you have to cut engineering/research/production/ etc time.
Just hang in there man! It's stressful, but very rewarding! Can't get to see how the world works from a McDonalds haha. Plus, being a mad scientist is fun! :D
Like I said, anytime! You were the first person I met that got me into this mess of a fandom, so I'm gonna stick to ya (not in a creepy way of course lmao). Thank you for the support as well mate!
Just hang in there man! It's stressful, but very rewarding! Can't get to see how the world works from a McDonalds haha. Plus, being a mad scientist is fun! :D
Like I said, anytime! You were the first person I met that got me into this mess of a fandom, so I'm gonna stick to ya (not in a creepy way of course lmao). Thank you for the support as well mate!
Hehe, yeah. :) Science means a lot to me... fingers crossed anyway, I've got a job interview on Wednesday for a role that would be a pretty major leap for me if it works out, so we'll see how that goes. :)
Aww wow, I hadn't realised it was actually me who got you into the fandom in the first place! That feels like a rather special sort of achievement. ^^ I'm happy to stick around with ya too!
Aww wow, I hadn't realised it was actually me who got you into the fandom in the first place! That feels like a rather special sort of achievement. ^^ I'm happy to stick around with ya too!
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