Oh, you'll get CHANGE alright :P

Oh really?

Yes, it's a Shiro pic, change is inevitable ;)

Yeah, change the system!

I had an idea for a story setting in which weres existed and were known. Their photo ID had to have two pictures, their human and were picture. I was planning on having the story follow the first werewolf in the Senate. He still has to change on nights of the full moon, and since he was known as a "No" vote on some bill, the Majority Leader scheduled the vote for the full moon just to try and keep him from showing up. He showed up, a big old werewolf in a business suit. He can't really talk, but he still could cast his vote, and give the jerk ML a bit of a growl as he walked past.

Dominus tecum

I'm still not sure which way things will go when I reach this point in my were story. It'll be interesting though. ;)

I'm always happy to help with brainstorming!

Dominus tecum

Oh yeah. I've got a basic skeleton for my idea. :)

*hands out raincoats then* ;)

clever there.

I'd love to talk more about this with you. Check your FA notes. :D

I approve of this kind of change!

yea until the alt left anracsts and more show up and cause a riot there and then some.

Did you really need to bring that in here? You know I disagree with your political views.

saying what I saw on the news man. :( I saw them at it and it made it to the news. :(

I approve on both changes. To the government AND the body ;P

well you have the raldical facists/markets of the democrat party and the libral left that want to use violence to get what they want since they got rejected in mass. those guys must be shoot dead to end this.

you do realise that this is a parody, right?

even so the parody of it will be over looked or igonorred with the serious stuff coming in to it.


also yea I know it Is a parody but still one must do those types at there own risk.

I dont even know why you're angry at this pic. It was made for fun and also it was commissioned. If the commissioner thought it was a risky theme he wouldnt have done it

just saying it out of concern though cause I had seen it all go south on things like this in the comments section. :( trust me I seen all of it there. :(


not trying to be anything other then just saying the concerns that it has a strong chance that everything that can go wrong will go wrong.

This pic is supposed to be something fun and you're turning it into some unnessecary political debate

If you wanted to say what you said here, go to reddit

I don't have reddit.

Just please don't have a go at someone because the pic contains a protest. Like I said; this was made for fun

I commented for some fun. Not for a political dramafest which you started

if the cercomestances were different man then it would not be there but sadlly with the situation as it is now. it would ineveitblly go there.



I to would like to comment on it for fun but sadly with this climate in our lives it was going to end up there regardless. and besides seeing something like this for art anyhow will get that type of comment. unavoidable there and if not I then someone else will do it inevitably. things like this, the bullying one done by soccerlance are things that must be take seriously regardless if it was made for fun. if that rained on the parade of everyone then sorry for it but it had to be done.

you're wrong; it didnt have to be done. You're the one that decided to bring real politics here. Arrow did not mention any real politics going on yet you decided to bring them in

No, absolutely not. The only one inciting violence here is you.

thing is I am not saying anything that is incendiary but simply relying what I saw else where to her don't shoot the messenger on this.

Well you're the one talking about the 'liberal left' as if they're evil and the conservatives are good innocent people.

the left are the ones making all of the noise now that is in the news, conservatives are now back to doing there daily lives of living and working quite for now but active in silence. the left is on the news now and there actions to get them on there is what I am talking about there actions.

lol the left it the only one that knows something is amiss in the government, apparently. Conservatives are okay with this because their bigotry is supported by the President.

and yet when they are in it nothing is wrong with it at all. :/ the left are the real bigots then if your going to throw that line in. :/

Absolutely not, and I don't think we're going to agree, ever, so just let it go.

yea best let it go though arrow will have to or not hide all of this anyway. if he does a heads up will be good.

Oh, I'm sure the current administration wouldn't like them much anyhow.

*insert change pun here*

jokes aside, this is a nice little pic.

I'm in this too. we are the solution this world needs.

y this then arrow? you know it will get heveally politicall to the point that people will block people over it. :C sad truth there.

The only person who seems to be injecting real politics into this is you.

after seeing the big political chain that broke out in the comments here I want to apologize for my sarcastic comment on the deviant art post of this. it's well done art and that's all that matters

its ok, dude. It's just a case of someone taking a pic way too serious when it shouldnt be taken serious at all

Its fine, I don't mind a bit of sarcasm or joking. I just didn't expect it to get this bad, given that this is more a situation that might occur on one of my fictional worlds, and not associated at all with real life except timing.

I always assumed it was just coincidence you posted right around when it happened

Copy-paste is not my way of doing things. Not in these replies, at least.

Let me speak for the opposing side. You demand change, shifters? We can make the change you want, but your protests won't prove anything. You say you're not beasts. Question: have you seen yourself in the mirror? Do you know why people are afraid of you? Claws, fangs, talons, sharp beaks — do these words give you a hint?
I'm sure that «human» is a state of mind rather than physical form. I can't say that this state of mind isn't affected by the physical form, however. I want to point at your problem, Shifters: you're not human and you're a mystery.
Impact of the form might get overlooked, but we can't deny it. I have an ability to empathize other humans because I'm a human myself. But can I be sure that you keep this ability in your shifted form? Can I be sure that you do not posess any danger to me or to others of my kind? Sadly, no, I can't. I do not percieve you as humans, I percieve you as a danger. If I was ordered to shoot one of you, I would carry the order without a second thought, I might have some doubt in general situation, but some actions are unforgiveable and if I was told about them or saw them myself, them all doubts would fade.
But let's assume you're peaceful demonstrators and peaceful shifters, as are your friends and majority of you. Do you know how much renegade shifters it would take to put entire population of the US into state of shock and fright? Less than 1% of you, shifters. There will definetly be human-hating souls that would hunt down innocent citizens and terrorize entire cities. I guess that even 0.5% of these poor lost souls will be enough to destroy public opinion about your species.

Don't think that politiciants have a nice time during this social disruption. Your protests force the government to take decisions faster and these decisions might not be the best. I don't want to ruin your hopes, but, as I think, government won't be your ally in your fight nor it will listen to you. US and other countries have two paths to choose from: liberal to shifters and restrictive for shifters. Both of these options will probably lead to civil war, but the second will have more supporters and if they won't get what they want through democracy, they will get it through violence. The sanest and the safest way is to simply wait. Wait for what? For science!

You're a mystery and that's what scares people. Meanwhile, it also intrigues scientists. Try to become more open, participate in research. The more data you give to the researchers the less mysterious you become. If people will get more or less full list of answers to the questions they asked themselves constantly, then they might change their opinions. Some people, of course, won't, but the majority should. You need to prove that there is nothing (or something) to worry about and there is no better way than through the Word of Science.

I'm sorry if grammatical mistakes make it hard to read my replies.

We do demand change. Our protests will prove we exist and we will not be silenced. What we look like is irrelevant; it is not a defense to kill or discriminate against someone for what they look like, as established in many prior court cases and legal battles.

We definitely are a mystery, but we retain the ability to empathize with humans when shifted. It's part of how we can even change back, honestly. We can't prove we're no threat, because we can't prove a negative.

As a soldier, you cannot follow orders you know to be unlawful or immoral, as established at the Nuremburg trials and in the Geneva Conventions. Were you to do so anyways, you might find yourself in much trouble afterwards.

Blaming the majority for the actions of the minority is wrong, and none of us can terrorize "entire cities" on our lonesome. We're human and fleshy as you are, and respond to physical abuse in mostly the same fashion. However, if you wish to argue that a small minority should affect the opinion of the majority, I will now hold you personally responsible for any action committed by any human, anywhere on the planet. How many human-on-human murders occur daily? Wars? Thefts?

Our entire point of protesting is to make the politicians HAVE to make these decisions. They may not be the best, but by forcing them to ante into the game, we are able to then work on improving it later, rather than letting them kick the can down the road indefinitely. There aren't enough of us to cause a civil war.

As for participating in science, you'll find that we'll be rather amenable to it, if it's conducted above board. A lot of us are quite curious ourselves and would love to have answers to the questions we have.

-Richard "Rich" Gallian