nu uh it's muh thyroid cundishun

http://i.imgur.com/dl09rDa.jpg

hilarious

This was pretty much what I was getting at below.

Jeez, so much issue over such a simple statement.

My mom had hypothyroidism and she lost weight after getting it taken care of. It is a real problem....

Yeah, but not to the degree people claim it. Which is what he's meaning to mock, I think.

It was actually pretty severe. It's pretty tough to lose weight with it too.

He wasn't referring to people who ACTUALLY have thyroid problems, though. At least, I think.

Look, there's a LOT of people out there that lie to themselves about how and why they have weight issues, and I think THAT was what he was addressing. I don't think it was meant to be a jab at people with LITERAL health issues. I know that I for one really hate when people do the sorts of things where they lie to themselves about why they're fat, how they're fat, all that. I mean, I'm still pudgy over here, but at least I don't lie and say "I'm having trouble losing more weight because of X and Y"; I know it's 'cuz I've been drinking too much soda again lately.

Regardless of who the jab was for. The comment just seemed to be in very poor taste. Especially on a comic that seems to be about someones personal journey of overcoming said obstacles. At least imo!

I feel just the opposite. I believe he's jabbing at people who don't even try and lie to themselves that they are or that they can't. Which are the people who will look at this and go "this is a load of horseshit!", "You need good genetics to do that!", etc.

I ABSOLUTELY support and try to do what's in this comic. It's a GREAT message. I just think the original commentor probably should have put quotes around that comment to make it clear it wasn't literally him saying that.

It's difficult for me because I both agree and disagree with you there.
I've struggled with trying to lose weight for a very long time because i was the dumbest kid ever and didn't see the connection between eating a ton of unhealthy shit/being a lazy fuck and gaining weight. I did a lot of dumb things that absolutely deserved to be ripped on because i never took responsibility for myself until like high school. People who who make excuses for things when they really have no grounds to do so absolutely suck because they harm the way the world looks at people who actually /do/ have those disabilities.

If you want to make fun of folks like that, that's fine but it really touches a nerve with me when people do stuff like that on things like this where it's supposed to be positive. It feels like despite the great message they're turning it into a joke because there's a fat person in it I guess? Like idk as someone who's been struggling the past few years to make better choices in their life, it always hurts to see fat jokes constantly popping up even on something like this if that makes sense?

but oh yeah I definitely get you there! I know he's not personally attacking the commissioner or character in the comic, I'm not mad at them or you or anyone here or feel attacked or anything like that. I just wanted to add my two cents as I found it a little distasteful personally.

Maybe it is distasteful. It was very much in that vein of trolling, so it's going to be polarizing. But people are gonna do that regardless, and I think it's important to consider their motives and intents before JUST writing them off. That being said, yeah. I can totally see why people might get upset by what was said.

I have a big issue with people being lazy like that because I DID that myself. I let myself think I couldn't lose weight because of genetic proclivity and general low self-esteem. But I had friends that believed in me, and I lost a good bit thanks to them doing that. And I will tell anyone I believe they can lose weight, even WITH health issues. Because, if they put in the hard work, they CAN do it.

So that's why I'm so willing to defend the guy's comment. SOME (and ONLY some) people need the wake-up slap to realize their excuses are not good enough to not TRY.

I think the trolling aspect is specifically why I have a problem with it. I understand people are going to do it and accept that fact which is why I'm not personally upset or offended by it. But at least in this context, it seems inappropriate and uncalled for and just personally I don't really condone defending it because I feel it only breeds more discourse and encourages more folks to react negatively to the situation.


I completely understand and have the same issue with these things as you do, so I can totally sympathize. I had the same issues where I just made excuses, and while some definitely were legitimate problems, the fact that I was using them as a crutch rather than working harder definitely invalidated them. I'm getting better and working towards my goal, and looking back it absolutely frustates me to see folks doing the same things I used to do, but I feel comments like this made publicly do more harm than good in fixing the issue. If you kick a person down even further, it's only going to fuel the problematic behavior. Not to say you should baby them or hold their hand, I'm all for tough love and calling out bullshit, but things like this just really don't help anyone.

I guess the TL;DR version is, this seems like a comment you'd make privately to a circle of friends who are all on the same level of humor as you, not a public place. It invalidates people that actually do have legit disabilities by fueling stereotypes of all overweight folks.

But again, I do understand your point of view and you're definitely not wrong, it's just my personal preference on the matter!

Gotcha, and I reciprocally appreciate and respect your opinion here. Glad we could at least discuss our differing opinions without resorting to ad hominem or such! Nothing really changes if all we do is argue without listening!

Oh absolutely! Even if it's an agree to disagree thing, it's always nice to hear and take into consideration other's respective viewpoints, definitely helps to hear things outside your bubble every once and a while!
Plus it's always super nice to discuss things without it turning into a shouting match

WHY CAN'T IT TURN INTO A SHOUTING MATCH?!

X3 Yeah, I agree though. Even if we disagree, we can be freakin' civil.

Bullying actually MOTIVATED me to lose weight. The determination to show those bellends and trolls that you can achieve anything, the result proved it correct :p
On either case, if you get trolled or bullied, people either sway to lose weight for a longer life, or eat themselves to death for comfort.

Yeah, pretty much.

Really, it boils down to one thing: you can make of you want the circumstances of your life and do your best with them, or you can let yourself languish and fall short of your potential.

Do you have it? cause if not you have no idea, i have had it for a year and its completely ruined my life, and i'm still trying to get sorted out.
Yes its no excuse, but picture everyday feeling like you have only slept a couple hours your mind is constantly clouded its like your half drunk, every single day.... then try to exercise and eat healthy everyday, and it being about half as effective as it would normally be.

Ive never had a problem eating healthy and losing weight but Ive gained like 35-45 pounds its hell if i was in the situation where i had no life and could just focus on exercise then ya i think i could pull it off. but i don't, i have other things to attend to as well as trying to stay in shape. So well your right in a sense, a thyroid problem is hell and is a very valid reason to have weight problem because everything against you even your own body. As fucked up as it sounds i would honestly trade it for almost any other serious health problem.

I'm literally NOT talking about that. It's something I was worried about, and investigated a couple of years back with my doctor.

There ARE people that use these health issues as EXCUSES. I'm almost SURE that's what the original commentor meant.

So, I'm curious what makes you think you can identify whether someone has a legitimate condition or is using an "excuse"?

There are so many reasons people look like the way they do. To judge them based on a glance is really shallow and says a lot about your personal character.

Also I'm curious in what world you think overweight people would willingly choose to be verbally abused for their appearance?

I never said I can identify people with legitimate conditions vs not. But people lie. To themselves, and to other. I'm not going to guess on the distribution of people with issues vs those that lie to themselves, but the fact of the matter is that obesity didn't use to be the pandemic it now is, and we are MUCH more sedentary in the current era. It's a logical conclusion to assume most of these are a combination of poor diet and lack of exercise.

And I never said I judge based on looks. But there's a difference between struggling with a thyroid issue and being a landwhale. My mother has a thyroid issue (hence why I got tested for it), and has struggled with weight her adult life. But the fact is she's STRUGGLED to deal with it, and she never just sat inside being inactive eating high-caloric food; hell, even in spite of pain from arthritis, she managed to do her gardening even before she got on meds for the arthritis. And SOME people do just sit and eat high-calorie food and act as if they have health issues so they don't have to change, because people don't LIKE to change. It IS fucking hard. Even without any real health issues, I've only really lost about 50 lbs, and possibly regained some because of focusing on muscle-building and being a little careless on food. But I personally don't excuse people that decide they shouldn't have to try, even if I can't know who they are or are not.

Finally, where the hell are you getting this "willingly choose to be verbally abused for their appearance" nonsense? Of course they don't, but that also isn't how human interaction works. Moreover, when did I even say something REMOTELY approaching this? Frankly, you sound like you are projecting a LOT here.

Sorry dude everyone just took his 3 worded message a different way. it didn't even bother me that much i more or less took your one comment very negatively. But Ive never had experience with someone using thyroid issues as an excuse. based on his comment it seems like he has.

Do you have a body like your picture? cause i use to have a body like that... well not as buff or the washboard abs but i was close 15% body fat getting nice pecs building muscle etc. My diet was chicken brown rice broccoli everyday, 20-30min cardio everyday and lifting weights 3 days a week for an hour etc. started doing all that after college and i honestly didn't have much trouble doing it sticking to the routine and all it was pretty easy to me. Then i got this and its so fucking hard to do any of that, especially after like a shift at work. But god damn im trying to get back into it. but ive lost all that i worked for and back and fourth trips to the doc to get it all sorted out. Sorry if i took it personally. now its another month more blood work try this dose BS.

But i don't see how anyone could use it as an excuse and not have it like all that got to do is go get blood work then you basically got it or don't based on the results like they could lie lol but its not something I've ever came across relating to this specific issue

I do an hour of weightlifting five days a week. I'm pretty beefy, even if I have pudge. X3

And like I said, it's lying to themselves. Some people care more about staying comfortable and not feeling guilty about it than pushing themselves to change and improve.

Yes, people do lie to themselves to steer clear of the challenge! I have a friend that lies to herself and makes excuses alllll the time for why she just can't lose weight when in reality, she just doesn't want to actually try. Even when we both used to workout together, she would make excuses. It's frustrating to me as a friend because whatever I say to help her won't go very far. . - .

There's probably SOMETHING in her psychology blocking her; in my opinion, that's where it is for MOST people in this situation. If you can find out what it is and help her past it, I'll bet she can do a LOT better. :3

If you want to try, at least. It's not your obligation to force her, obviously, and ultimately you can't if she won't.

I try to be understanding yet encouraging but she's just good at letting herself make excuses. She's even acknowledged that she makes excuses sometimes but I never force her into things. I've backed off since then to see what she'll do on her own and its declined to nothing.

But I do agree that the mentality has to be there for the hard work to be done. Some days I don't even have it. X w X I don't like to fault her for every little thing either, of course. We're far from perfect and I get that! There is only so much you can do for someone who won't do things for themselves but I still love her for who she is. ^ - ^
Also, I wanted to share so that people have an example to see what you were talking about.

Well, thank you. Hopefully people will see your example and get context a little better.

"I never said I can identify people with legitimate conditions vs not." This is exactly what you did, though. You made it clear you judge people based on appearance without knowing their personal history. There would be no other purpose for your comments otherwise.

"but the fact of the matter is that obesity didn't use to be the pandemic it now is," This is called concern shaming. You don't care about these people, how they think or feel.

"And I never said I judge based on looks. But there's a difference between struggling with a thyroid issue and being a landwhale." What the fuck? Your mind is so ugly. I have no words.

"My mother has a thyroid issue... and has struggled with weight her adult life. But the fact is she's STRUGGLED to deal with it" Okay, so how exactly do you determine who you just as a "landwhale" and as someone who has "struggled"? Why are you making this judgement? Why are you saying you don't make this kind of judgement when you so very clearly did several times in this post alone? Your anecdotal stories about "My X is X, so clearly I know all about this" will find zero pity. You have observed one situation. One.

"Finally, where the hell are you getting this "willingly choose to be verbally abused for their appearance" nonsense?"

Right here: "Look, there's a LOT of people out there that lie to themselves about how and why they have weight issues, and I think THAT was what he was addressing. I don't think it was meant to be a jab at people with LITERAL health issues. I know that I for one really hate when people do the sorts of things where they lie to themselves about why they're fat, how they're fat, all that. I mean, I'm still pudgy over here, but at least I don't lie and say "I'm having trouble losing more weight because of X and Y"; I know it's 'cuz I've been drinking too much soda again lately."

So, how do you determine who is lying to themselves and who isn't? Are you a doctor? Do you know their physical and mental health history? Why does the word "landwhale" even pop into your head when you know zero information about a person and why they look the way they do? The situations you describe imply that fat people without a justifiable reason for being fat (which doesn't exist, btw) deserve to be ridiculed and criticized. If they're really so lazy, I'm sure they're also indifferent about your opinion. Boiled down? You are making zero impact and providing no information of substance.

There's no projection here. It's you spouting off words and then saying they don't mean what they very clearly do.

"Why does the word 'landwhale' even pop into your head when you know zero information about a person and why they look the way they do?" Because we have people with BMI indexes of 40+ when this DID NOT HAPPEN to anywhere near this degree 100 years ago. Makes me think that something happened societally, not genetically.

"...deserve to be ridiculed and criticized..." You're muddying the water here. Legitimate criticism is massively different from ridicule. One is pointing out legitimate problems, the other is simply making fun of a person for reasons. And I'm not speaking about specific people here; I'm talking in broad terms here.

Let's cut to brass tax: you don't know what I fully think on this at all, you're jumping to conclusions on what's here. Most likely you take issue with one specific thing I said, hence why you're coming at each little things I said and trying to take it all apart.

And I'm not gonna do that. If you want to talk about this topic directly, then I'm open to it. But I'm not gonna respond to these presumptive attacks on my values when you're basically guessing at what I really think or how I act (news flash: I would never be this harsh or clinical to a person if I were specifically talking about THEIR weight).

I doubt you actually care that much, I imagine this is all about "pwning" me and making yourself look good in your mind, so I don't expect this conversation to go on much further. But I leave that ball in your court.

Or, you know, people aren't literally starving to death as much anymore.

Try researching 'food deserts' in the USA and tell me about how obesity is just a moral failing.

Yes, I know, fruits and vegetables are expensive, and Big Macs are relatively cheap and easy.

You're missing entirely the parts where I've been arguing that doing what is easy is exactly why people can't get their weight under control? All we can ever control in this world is ourselves and our choices, after all. We have to live in the world as it is, not as it "should be", which I think is where you're losing the thread.

Also, moral failing? Nah. Just a health failing I hate seeing people fall into far too often.

Food desert doesn't just mean that food is expensive, it means that people without access to cars have to travel at least a mile from their home to reach a grocery store, and food deserts are almost exclusively found in low-income areas, where people are often working two or three jobs just to get by and have neither the time, energy, or money to walk several miles for groceries and to spend the time required to prepare those groceries into a mean with equipment their apartment might not even have.

...what's your college major?

Sociology with a minor in programming.

Ah, a social science. Color me un-surprised.

Truly, somebody who studies society must know nothing about society, while somebody who rejects the study of society as pseudoscience must therefor be an expert. Also, the earth is flat, gravity is fake, dinosaurs were made up, climate change is a hoax, and evolution is a scam. Anything else you want to fit in there?

I have a bachelor's in physics. So, you're not gonna convince me that you have a better understanding of the scientific method than I do.

The MAJORITY of institute-based social sciences do very poorly when it comes to objective investigation. Too common to see a presumption followed instead of reading the data without bias.

read: "I don't like the conclusions drawn from the data, ergo it's invalid."

WOW. You FULL-ON will deny anything that goes against your own worldview, won't you?

Says the guy asserting, without evidence, that social sciences are bunk.

I asserted that they are not careful in the scientific process, not that there's no merit to them when done properly.

My biggest problem with social sciences is that a LOT of them DO NOT use a control group in their methodology.

Again, not seeing any evidence.

I literally lived in a situation like this, no matter how much I tried I was just too poor to lose weight, I wasn't not ever eating, so I was taking in calories, I couldn't afford good foods and so the food I was in taking wasn't good, I knew that, but there was only one place to buy food, we had no car and it was a 45 minute walk. I didn't eat enough to keep my metabolism from going into "starvation mode" so when I'd lose weight I'd gain even more the moment I had food to eat again. I was active until the poor living conditions made me too ill to be particularly active, and yet I still had to make super long walks, so it wasn't as if I NEVER exercised. I was exhausted, I was sick, I was starving and still gaining weight and there wasn't anything I could do about it. I got a lucky break when a friend helped me out of the situation, gave me a boost and the help I needed to get where I am now, but this is ABSOLUTELY a thing, in my experience.

'Yes, I know, fruits and vegetables are expensive, and Big Macs are relatively cheap and easy.'

Not so! I feed my family on a very limited budget and strive to only buy fresh fruits and veggies to do so! Its all about the effort you put in to making a meal plan and looking for sales to match up with meals you can cook.

I have to admit we dont really eat fast food due to the cost! I can feed us with a curry or some other meal I cooked myself for pennies on the dollar compared to going out and eating at almost any fast food place. Home cooking will cost you far less if you just put in a little effort instead of sitting in your car at the drive through window.

Bottom line is that people are lazy and unwilling to really put effort towards making healthy changes.
*Disclaimer some people really do have a hard time due to health reasons. But it is still no excuse to let yourself become so unhealthy that you need a handicap sticker for your car... (I see this a lot, as well as my doctor, and with me I have bad knees so to see someone having trouble getting out of a car because they are just too big is a bummer.)

Anyhow not looking to bust into a huge long thing. Just wanted to put that out there that even if you only have 30.00 a week to eat you are more then capable of eating healthy no matter where you live. I move around a lot and have seen a wide range of prices on fruits and veggies. From Ca to Canada to In.

It's pointless. He has no empathy.

No, I'm BAD at empathy. But that doesn't mean I'm without SYmpathy. I know how hard these things are to get past sometimes, but they CAN be passed.

I'm not great at putting myself in someone else's place AND mindset, but just being me in their situation isn't hard to imagine. Seriously, you go on about me being a "internet tough guy", but I'm not callous to how hard weight loss can be even for those without weight issues. I've BEEN there. But because I've been there, I know it can also be done.

Seriously, I can't imagine how un-charitably you're reading what I'm saying to accuse me of being as heartless as you think I am.

Evidently, yeah.

"Food deserts" aren't real. They're wholly invented by people who want more money for muh programs.

I mean...there is some validity to the price of produce varying based on locations. The further it has to be transported after being picked, the more its price goes up, if only a little. The gas used for transportation is a consideration, after all.

http://americannutritionassociation.....s-food-deserts

Question, why do you hate poor people so much?

It's clear this isn't going to go beyond middle school logic, insults, and internet tough guy smugness, so I guess all I can say is I hope you find the means to be a less cruel and ignorant person some day.

Well, not all of them. But the ones who are STILL upset were. Shepherd and NIMZ each seemed rather personable from their replies.

But yes. SOME of the replies wanted to be offended so they could display what good people they are by standing up for the overweight against us "bullies". I dislike when people as so sadly transparent.

Also, there are LOTS of treatments for thyroid issues. You should speak to your doctor about finding one; my mom's been on one for decades and it seems to at least help.

Which usually aren't covered by insurance.

Okay? Isn't it kind of presumptive to assume NIMZ there DOESN'T have insurance? Or do you know him well enough to know?

It's a safe presumption that most poor people haven't had access to insurance until the past few years, and most overweight people are poor, so it's not presumptive to assume that a random given overweight person has not had any consistent access to healthcare.

Ah, you're assuming based on his profile, which may or may not be out of date (his age clearly is if he's graduated college). Umm...don't do that? Ask him directly, at least. Also, if he's still in that age-range, he'd be on his parent's plan potentially, which means it comes down to whether or not his parents have insurance. So...stop guessing.

For a guy who assumes all fat people must be lazy slobs you sure are angry that I assume in such a way to give them a benefit of the doubt due to statistical trends.

*eyeroll* This is what I hate about dealing with children: you all assume you know everything when you clearly do not. However, I'm SUPER weary of dealing with you, so I'm not feeling like going fully into why you're wrong on me thinking "all fat people must be lazy slobs". Your understanding of my views is very reductionist as well as black-and-white, and I'll thank you to consider maybe I can think that people aren't doing the best for themselves while still not thinking them bad people.

I know you won't, because you are an un-cheritable brat from what I can see.

Buddy, you're projecting real hard right now.

i just read that ENTIRE thing...idk how you do it. it was exhausting just reading it -.- internet justice is truely..i thing of wonder

That last comment I just sorta skimmed for anything actually worthwhile. Alas, there was nothing to be found.

now understanding what type of person you are...makes more sense now why you felt so entitled...was an interesting read for sure

Eh? I'm not gonna give an intense read on somebody spending a paragraph insulting me.

there weren't actually that many insults :o so you were just..flying blind with most responses? XD cause you didnt want to be insulted but you can insult them? wow ok i've lost interest now that i know your arguments meant nothing :/

Kinda being a bitch on what's meant to be an inspirational picture, ain't ya?

And no, I'm not late reading this. It just took me this long to even want to dive headlong into the storm of bullshit.

It took you ten months to coming up with that retort?

If you didn't notice, I'm not the one in these comments insulting overweight and obese people.

Wow, you clearly didn't read what I wrote, but alright. Guess an asshole is always gonna be an asshole. And apparently, you didn't actually read ANY of the comments over the last 10 months, but hey...Who am I to judge the way you are. Maybe you like being an insufferable asshat. No need to reply, I honestly don't care. I just like stirring dickbags like you up sometimes.

XD my hyperthyroidism is this comic in reverse the past year lol, I'm determined to be in shape again but damn is it hard

Have you considered not being a giant piece of shit?

Probably to vast degrees more than you've thought about not being a giant asshole.

Calling someone out for propagating hatred of people based of superficial characteristics is 'being a giant asshole' to you?

Thanks for posting this before I responded to your "food desert" comment. Shame you're oblivious to how you're a giant asshole, though.

k

I apologise, I must've misunderstood your stance on the issue.
I mistook "have you though about not being a big piece of shit?" As a jab at someone's weight.

Ah, I can see how my phrasing was somewhat vague in this context, yeah. My fault entirely.

The true villain here is the comment structure of FA my friend

fatshaming works!

indeed it does

Oh motivation!

do I see a N7 on him as in mass effect?

YUP, he sent refs, he's got that exact suit :)

there was me thinking it was a joke about the character being a german shepherd.

Lol german 'shepard' in an n7 uniform. I love it.

That throws me. Is this meant to be set in Mass Effect?

No,

I have a tri-suit that I showed an N-7 patch to, the color scheme and look of it was simply perfect for it XP

V/R,
Cap Mag.

V/R?

"Very Respectfully",

A habit I've formed over the years in correspondence, and because 'Army', it is abbreviated XP

V/R,
Cap Mag.

Ahh.

I found the fat male German Shepherd very hot. You did a great job on this! Do you think you do more like this?

Agreed. He looked amazing in that panel. He shouldn't have changed himself because of what his bullies said.

Yeah, he had such. Beautiful fat hot body, and he could just sit on them and crush the bullies with all that beautiful fat weight

N7!

Awrh, that's really nice!
Handsome waff~

Congratz sir,life is what you make of it.

Very cute and inspirational, great work dude!

well fine work by both of you

This is super sweet ;;;;;;;;;

that is a nice story!

outdoors with no covers? for shame

#Relatable as fuccc.

Ahhhhh yes the daily struggle of motivation but when it appear it's truly does work wonders for you

Nothin wrong with being fat. But if they want to lose weight it's great that they were able to achieve that.

Very beautiful and amazing. So touching.

This reminds me of my time in army basic training. I went in a soft 230 pound fatass and came out a solid 180 pound soldier. "A rubber fucking machine," as my drill sergeant liked to say. I was awarded the "most motivated soldier" award because of my improvement and also because I was nearly 30 when I went in.

Very awesome, both the art and the content!

those guys in the showers are so meaaaan, hes not even fat anymore at that point

One of the sad things about those three years,

Was there were several people like that. Regardless of the work I put in, and how fit I became, they still maintained the contempt they had when I was at my peak weight. I never fully understood why >.>

V/R,
Cap Mag.

i guess some people are just assholes no matter what

Inspirational!

Mag always has good concepts with his commissions e.e

Congrats, never give up your dreams!

This is amazing and just what I needed to see thank you so much!

I think he was beautiful in every frame x3 but I find a smile is the most gorgeous thing of all.

Very nice comic

This makes me think of when I first joined the army.

I love the N7 reference, I personally love the mass effect games, but I'm disappointed with the new one

Love this! Great motivation to keep going on my weight loss. ^^

This...this pleases me to see.

Good stuff. Years ago I lost 70 lbs for different reasons. but I understand the feeling. YOU captured this very well.

"No, I can't see my foot- because it's lodged so far up your ass you're probably already tasting it. >:D"

Awesome and inspiring! Not that i want to get in the military but still pretty cool

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7720916/

I'm just happy the fucker didn't end up going full metal jacket.

Believe me,

As am I XP
In fact, scroll forward 8 years, and I am now a Captain, in the specialty and position that I've wanted, so I think I adjusted well in the years following the struggle summarized in the comic XP

V/R,
Cap Mag.

He's pushing that bar too far up. He's engaging muscles you're not suppose to on a bench, typically. He really needs to lock his shoulder blades behind his back. X3

*pedantic wolf*

Glad someone else noticed.

I BETTER notice. I bench every Monday, about 225 lbs right now.

Great comic and I love the N7 reference :)

Having been fat myself and able to loose over 60 pounds in 2 years. I relate so hard to this!

My struggle in life right now...

Sans the whole...military thing.

Amazing. <3

This pic speaks volumes to me, probably only in a way that him and those like us could understand. Not just in military, but anyone that wanted to reach for something when almost no one believed in you...

I had to go through this exact same thing. I wasn't fit in anyway when I first joined and they told me that I may not make it because of that.
Truth be told there were alot of people that said I couldn't do it, some were even family...

It took me 6 months (on account that I got sick while there) but to see the look on the faces of everyone that said I couldn't was the second best thing I saw when I came home wearing my uniform.
The first was seeing my family again (well the ones who believed in me).

Thanks or making such an amazing picture. Hope that we can see more like these.

Nice comic. Seems to show alot of truth and the hardships of getting in shape. I bet Fat acceptance groups hate you now.

I'm not too bad, but I do need to exercise more.

I hope people don't see this as fat-shaming or condoning the cruel jibes of Mag's peers! This is about his personal journey in joining the army, not meant to be an 'everyone should be skinny/fit' sort of thing :)

Yes I know, and I think it really shows. However, some people just go into a blind hate and are triggered by everything. And then they start calling you Hitler.

lovely drawing and where can I get a N7 workout outfit :3

Great inspiration and show of its progress. Brilliant art work

He shaped himself to become more like the people who are mean to him?

Changing his body type to achieve a dream doesn't mean he also stooped to the level of bullying or fat-shaming others.

Indeed!

Having had a front seat row to the mental hell this can be, regardless if one is on a military path or not (as I'd been overweight pretty well all my life, and bullied for it, just, well, less relentlessly).

Because of the misery that was I much rather try to inspire and help folks who may have a similar struggle, and I have been approached by many after posting it on my page, to whom I had the opportunity to try and help (and hopefully have provided keys to success for).

Nor do I go out of my way to judge folks who choose not to engage in that change. I much prefer to lead and bring folks to change via inspiration, not blunt force trauma...

V/R,
Cap Mag.

Awww poor guy. The world can be so mean. Really inspiring!

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This is beautiful.

>insert slow clap here<

Seriously though, seeing this is just inspiring :3

Really amazing stuff. Thanks to both demicoeur and Magarnan for sharing this. <3

My mate went through the same thing. He was pudgy when we first started dating then he joined the army and now is built and I'm soo proud

Aww I love this. The message it conveys is so beautiful and inspirational. Great work! ^^

that's exactly the same thing i did... axcept with the Marines

Bullying someone for being fat is wrong, but that doesn't make saying "being fat isnt unhealthy" right

*faved, saved, will print out when I buy more ink :P*

Seriously though, I can relate to this from the adversity perspective. It's hard to overcome something, especially if you're in any kind of rut :/

I love this.

Very amazing piece to have commissioned. I hope this is shown proudly for the one who's gone through all this.

Damn... if being fit means turning into one of those douchebags, then pass the donuts.

This inspires me and allso reminds me how much I have faled to get my self to shape, I loose my motivation too kuicly.
And I hate that.

there is something with uniforms in the right anthro that really ignites me ! XDD

Motivation RULES!!!

I find him rather attractive -- chubby is more cuddly to me. :p

Also, the word 'yearing' in the second panel should be 'yearning', I think.

And damn, wish I had the motivation and determination to at least get fit. I can't even bring myself to gym. :|

really impressive and motivating journey, it proves that if ya fight for ya dreams and never give up you will get there, even if it takes time.
I really love it! nice work like always Demi! c:

Hate make you stronger!!

Now go get a towel and make those shower boys your bitches. >3

Very inspirational, I like it. I've never had to deal with obesity, I have a great respect for these determination stories.

As an Army Vet, I can tell you that there is a training program like this for overweight recruits. It is brutal and I've seen more than one before & after photo that made me gasp.

This is true,

But there is a limit to the body fat % that it will allow, usually 24 - 26%. I was... Well, I was at or over 50% at my peak weight, so while I got into a military college, I was unable to meet criteria to go through MEPs and be eligible for those programs until some time later...

V/R,
Cap Mag.

This is pretty awesome!

I know I've replied to a few comments,

But I do want to take a moment to thank you again for all the work that was put into this, it came out wonderfully, and tells the story of those years extremely well ^.^

V/R,
Cap Mag.

I appreciate you sharing this with the community! It inspires even me... although my issue is not one of weight but overall fitness. Regardless, I don't think I have the mental parts to work in the military... but it's inspired me to try and get back into some sort of shape again.

Great piece, feel it really hits that spot... Thou Navy tried to make me less skinny XD.

Been years since basic for me... Was no cake walk till I broke... That first phone call home in what seemed like years... My mothers voice and broke down into so many tears... I never broke under the RDC's to that point never did before or after that call, but after that call I had that focus, that determination that I was worth a damn to myself and there was nothing that could throw at me I could not handle.

To any my brothers and sisters of the Armed Forces thank you. Knew I should have never left but life had me move onto having a family outside Navy. I would go through basic again too if opportunity presents itself but I am crazy like that.

I had tried to go into the military myself. But I made the mistake of revealing my ADD at MEPS. So now I have a giant DQ. I cannot join the Army, Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard, the National Guard, or the Reserves.

Still love this comic. It's extremely uplifting. Need more comics like this.

Hey! I don't mean to be "that guy" but I believe there's a typo in the second panel. Yearing should be yearning I think. Just thought I should point that out for you!

Thanks for letting me know, I'll fix it! :)

Yeah of course, no problem! :)

RAH man

lol the last panel: UNFATHOMBLE :'33

I don't have the calling to enter into the armed forces, but I will say I do have the drive to get in shape again. That desire to go beyond what you feel is your limits. Also, I have quite a few over-weight friends and they struggle to do things. I don't ever want to struggle to dance.... I love DDR ;A;

This is a well done and well executed piece. The artist and commissioner should feel proud of themselves. And although I have no real political stance on body types or body issues I feel as though I must admit... I'm mainly faving this so I can read through the hilarious string of comments the next time i need a cheap laugh.

*grabs popcorn*

...priceless!

Oh yes, exactly what I'm doing right now. :P

Yay! :D

What a touching comic page. My heart goes out to his journey and cheers for achieving your goals!

Thanks for sharing <3

I wasn't as huge as this shep was but damned if it doesn't feel great losing all that weight and bettering myself to join the military

aaawh but the chubby version is cute too \('3

i lose 40kg less then 1 year and i know what that mean

I can relate to this comic I graduated from MP school on Feb 2016 & among the soldier there was this guy 6 foot something around 200-250 pounds he almost didn't pass his last APFT but if it wasn't for his determination & the help of us to motivate(not insulting him like the comic) he pass his run under 18 min it was like around 00:15:45-00:16:00.so for those either joining or join in & are in basic don't be the ass hole in the platoon try to be a leader or motivator

Mag is seriously awesome.

If you have the will then you can do anything. Wouldn't recommend military tho

This is a great comic I luv it

I would like to know how one generates that kind of will power and determination, particularly in the face of adversity. Desire by itself is not a sufficient explanation.

as a personal piece showing the struggles of one trying to achieve their dream and goal you did a fantastic job in just a few small panels.
seeing something like this makes me want to strive and try a little more for the things i want. i don't really have many goals or dreams like the character here does, but this piece certainly is something of an inspiration ^^

It feels like he's giving in to his bullies by losing the weight like that. It stops being a personal goal and just becomes a peer expectation.

Inspirational that he did all he could to attain the body he wanted. Awesome piece.

Great piece! I too have dealt with a negative body image when I was younger which instead lead me to gain weight rather than lose a lot unhealthily; I could tell a great difference in my appearance in eight grade versus ninth. In fact, I'm still very picky about how I look in photos and videos, but I've learned to laugh at myself and let my personality dominate my appearance. What still surprises me is knowing I completed my first 5K not too long ago, alternating between jogging, walking, and then sprinting to the finish.

Now this call fat to fit

This made me tear up. I know I'm 4 years late, but great work :')