That's just sad...

On one hand that's sad, on the other the way he acts it's not something that invokes Sympathy? He's still the 'bad guy' of this story it feels like. It would be interesting to see him as a kid or growing up because I imagine a lot of his jaded and rude attitude grew over time I'd guess.

Or maybe he was always a dick! Who knows!?

Come to think of it, wouldn't he have been invisible to his parents?

maybe his parents where the same?

Unicorns I'm assuming can see each other?

Or his glammour developed after a certain period of time. Kind of like the Helltouched, but different. My bet is after he hit puberty/sexual maturity.

mmm.. not sure about that since Frost had never seemed to have seen one, even a child

Good point. Maybe the glamour was there, but very weak/functioned differently. Like before they become sexually active only non-virgins can see them and they're mistaken as horses or perhaps they gain the horn at puberty like a deer with more perniment antlers, Idk. It's fun to think about though.

Yeah, kinda :3

I knew it... It's just the Doctor in disguise! He must have accidentally swallowed one of those keys or something...
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Perception_filter

Are you my mommy?

*giggles* i agree with you, feels very similar, difference is i doubt it would make a difference if he tried to draw attention to himself.

Wow, that is depressing. He just want's to be noticed then I guess. X3

oh... i see a kind of cameo here! x3

TURTLE GIRL!

Holy shit Demi, nicely done!

HEY DEV AND LEE FROM "OUT OF POSITION" SERIES. great work )

I noticed that too it's a great little Easter egg

sure is.

I'm so glad, I thought I was being dumb to see them when maybe they are not xD

<pat your head> there, there.
with them, you should be happy. they will probably KISS at some moment.

Yay, kiss!

HEHE <kiss your forehead while holding you>

*holds you tighter* thanks :3

Aw, I'd feel a twinge of sympathy, if he weren't a manipulative prick.

Same.

A TARDIS unicorn. OK, why not.

Ah, shit. I was gonna say you'd already explained it, but it may have been in the comments section on one of the pages in the first chapter xD.

It was :) I explained a few times in the comment section, this is the first time it's been properly explained in the comic though!

Good idea, because lot of people didn't see any of those explanations apparently. I didn't see it either,m even tho I usually go through the comments quickly. But I already expected it to work like that. :)

Now the question that remains: Is this supposed to be normal for Unicorns in this Universe, or it's more like a curse he acquired somehow? And if the latter, I wonder if it can be lifted? He doesn't seem to be a bad guy at heart - for example when he said good bye to Frost, he genuinely seemed torn by what is about to happen - but rather rather someone who has an outwards destructive self-defense reaction to suffering. And I can relate to that from personal experience, sadly. So I'm hoping there is a way to help him.

It has me wondering, if people subconsciously know he is still there, what is to stop him from following random people into their homes and boning them while the sleep? Does his glamour work both ways were he can't touch them, etc?

aaand you turned it from Kinda sad kinda jerk into Rape and horror

I think this was a good point in the story to have a real explanation of it. If I were reading for the first time, the mystery of the glamour would keep me curious :).

Also love the bartender, Badgers are so rare. Honestly think this is the first female badger I've seen!

One of the local female furs is a badger. :3

HEY Demicoeur, how much do I have to pledge in order to get a cameo in the comic? ;D

All patrons of all pledge levels can fill out a form with the character they want in a cameo. I add cameos as I go and try to give everyone a chance :)

Sweet!

so the bartender is virgin?

I was wondering about that too.

Or is it that he has a way of protecting specific someones from his glamour, if he has not had sex with them?

Given the color scheme I suspect the bartender might be asexual. Very very clever, Demicoeur!

I think you're the first to notice! ;)

So many flags... I had no idea. It's really clever though! And nice catch!

Sad story, it's at least a bit reasonable.

oh wow nice way of showing his glimmer! o3o

So...basically Doctor Who's Perception Filter?

interesting but why do virgins seem to be the only one who can see him?

Well in True Unicorn lore, Unicorns only appear to the Pure. So it may be built off of that.

Maybe, may need to brush up on my unicorn lore but wasn't to any one pure of heart sort of deal not just pure cause your a virgin.

See my longer reply below. :)

thank you very much.

Not exactly.

The whole virgin association comes from the early Middle Ages. People believed that Unicorns are so fierce and strong that it's impossible for hunters to fight and defeat him - except, as bestiaries reported, with one trick: Present the Unicorn with a virgin girl (in some texts she has to be naked) and the Unicorn will calm down, and lay its head on the girl's lap and fall asleep - which gives hunters the chance to kill him while he is unaware. Unicorn horns were believed to have various magical properties, most importantly that of neutralizing every poison - which made it highly sought after by kings and nobles to place it in their cups so they are safe from poisoning, which was a very popular way of assassination at the time (and through most of history).

See here: https://www.wired.com/wp-content/up...../unicorn-r.jpg

All the other things about virgins and Unicorns are simply later romanticizations on the idea that virgin girls have a special effect on Unicorns.

I must add tho, virgin girls for sure have a special effect on me... *grins*

Send them all to me! ;)

That's awesome, I've always wondered about that

*whistle* that's some interesting perception block right there

So the female talking to him is a virgin. I wonder if the one at the bar looking at her is too given she seems to be paying attention quite well

I see you there, turtle lady.

I recognize Dev and Lee

Unicorns are assholes :3

D:

Ok.. ok .. SOME unicorns are assholes? <3?

:3

wood love too have a drink with that bartender, Badger.horn boy i feel for.yes hes a prick but its do too hes kirse.wood not mind having the ablady to see and know hes thair so he was not so cut off.gave hem a partner and not jest a fling .fuck budsy are more fun than fings

I can understand his position, dang, hard to dislike him now.

So, why did that one dad in the beginning react so weird when he saw Frost talking to him, if he was aware of "someone"?

Explained next page :P Also the dad in the panel you're referring to is reacting more to his young daughter, who's only a toddler and can obviously see Ciel, where all the dad can see is Frost sitting by himself.

Oh yeah. "Pony!" LOL.

i dont think its out right knowing someone is there its more like knowing something is there if your passing by it. you couldnt see it if you tried and wouldnt pronaly be looking in the right direction

OwO plot!

ahh psychic invisibility, would someone with the ability to perceive magic or the supernatural be able to see him?

serves you right ya massive douche!

"I'd rather bury my woes in some poor virgin's ass" needs to be on a T-shirt, with Ciel's grumpy face under it XD

So... he has no creativity. A power/curse/whatever like that, and all he can think of is plowing the next hot virgin ass? I'd be kicking back, living a richer life! Do 'anything' and never get made out. Ultimate crook disguise right there!

so then... could: a pystic, and/or another extraplanar have a lasting relationship with him?

YOU'RE EYES WITHOUT A FAAAAAACE

What a mythical page

I thought that was Dev and Lee. I still have their books. (In Kindle and Audiobook formats)

That looks a little spooky. I like how series use moments like these to flesh out characters. Very well done!

Don't think it looks like that, because seeing something like that is all the more noticeable. I suppose you mean its a form that people instinctively ignores altogether. But then again when someone is talking to him, they would not really look like they are talking to themselves. they be talking to something they don't care about.

So his power is "ignore me!" Seems legit

Cameo? Where? Haha.
I'm pretty sure that the fox and the tiger in the background are Lee and Dev from Kyell's novels. The Forester jacket.

And that is a good way to explain it. We see stranger everyday and most of the time we don't remember or even notice them.

sounds like Fabletown logic :)

Ayy it's my cameo! Totally didn't catch the Dev/Lee when I first saw this!

Nothing like a little exposition dump in the middle of a story.

So wait, the ring makes it so the wearer won't forget him, but the wearer still can't see him. And when he was devirginized the unicorn went all invisible ... does the ring cause the user to lose all perception of the unicorn but still remember him, or what? He seemed pretty invisible when the cute stag confronted him in the alley.

As you said, Frost can't really see/notice Ciel, but still remembered him with the ring. Ciel is, to all non-virgins, like the fleeting shadow you see in your peripheral vision, but when you try to look for it you can't see it. Even if you, as in Frost's rare case, KNOW he's there. There will be further explanation of the magic later on.

Wait, Frost's "rare" case? Why "rare"?
I kinda assumed that Ciel did pretty much the same to all virgins he could find: seduce them, 'devirginize' them, and give them an anti-forgetting ring to emotionally torture them
Am I wrong? º.º Was Frost somehow 'special' for Ciel?

I only meant that the scene where Frost catches Cinder and Ciel interacting in the alley was fairly unique ;P No one else has 'caught' Ciel after being deflowered by him, so to speak.

Oh, I see. Hehe, thanks for the explanation ^^ So, does Ciel have, like, a bunch of those rings to give away to all his partners?

The doctor who perception filter!

Little nervous for the girl in the first pannel. Why's that guy givin' her the bad-guy stare and she's all anxious?

shes looking for a BAD time.. yeeaaahh

Hey! I designed that pink doggo in the first pannel!!

Hmmmmmmmmm. So does his glamour only effect those, be it male or female, when he take's their anal virginity ??? Oo.

What about a woman's vagina virginity ??? Oo.

In the context of the comic, pleasure until completion constitutes losing ones' virginity. Whether that be oral, anal, vaginal, fingering, etc.

Gotcha.

I'ld like to have that glamour. :3

While this is how I pictured his glamour to work, doesnt it conflict with how it worked when he met Frost initially?
It seemed back then that Frost had to be wary (back in that cafe when they met) so people didnt think he was speaking all by himself?

Whereas here this person is talking to Ciel normally and even the person sitting next to him has no weird look. (So they 'see' the bartender speaking to someone, their minds just refuse to 'see' who it is that they are talking to)

The following page continues a bit on this exact subject, but the scene you're thinking of where Ciel first meets Frost is slightly different. The little kid can obviously see Ciel and is trying to point him out to her dad, and the only thing that makes sense to the dad's eyes is that there's a deer talking to himself.

But that's what I mean, the dad saw Frost speaking to nothing, rather than 'someone I cant seem to focus or notice well'.

In this current scenario, it looks like if a kid also pointed at Ciel, the adult would see the bartender and only react the 'they are speaking to someone' conclusion, not think they are talking to air.

Like I said, it's addressed in the next page ;)

"Your eyes without a face, got no human grace, your eyes without a face." Or a "monster with no name" if you prefer that!

That's a really cool mechanic. The idea of feeling someone's presence, and yet being unable to see them... he should work at a haunted house

Ah, so he becomes a Somebody Else's Problem to whoever has had sex. Curious concept.

Adam Douglas Universe Mechanics FTW! SOOOO funny.

I love this! I love that there is a second chapter! I wasn't expecting this so soon!

I'm just curious at this point if that other unicorn you've drawn before will show up in this story or if we only dealing with Ciel. Also this is an interesting explanation, I literally thought about it as invisibility too and that stuff like drinks just turn invisible with him.

EDIT: Noir, there we go, couldn't remember his name.

Putting patron's characters in the comic is a really neat gesture!

Or from what I thought people look at him, look away and completely forgets about him

Hey Dev and Lee. Woot

you forgot to add me. my character was the ice cube in the drink

(Copied and pasted from the previous page submission as I was a bit behind the bar)

"As has been mentioned before, Ciel has a pretty fucked up power. One that he apparently cannot control. The amount of pure, blind hate of him as a person based solely upon his actions without giving a single iota of consideration to his situation is a tad astonishing. Has he done some nasty things? Yeah. But you're talking about someone whose life is a living hell in a few different ways. He can't even interact with the majority of the population of the world. He's basically isolated from just about everyone.

How would you feel if every person you'd ever loved (and made love with) just dumped you by the curb and pretended like you no longer existed after that first night? This isn't what's happening, per se, but the effect upon Ciel is the same. It would hurt a lot...possibly drive a lot of people to suicide. Ciel has simply taught himself not to care (though it likely still eats away at him deep inside). It's a defense mechanism. The rest he drowns in liquor and virgin sex. Maybe he gave the ring to Frost just so that SOMEONE would remember him.

Think about what it would feel like if you had no one in the world who would care or even really notice if you dropped off the face of it. Ciel is beyond lonely. He's perhaps one of the loneliest people in the Cinderfrost world. Instead of giving up and killing himself, he's trying to make a life for himself. And yes, that involves walking on the feelings of others, but no more than he walks on his own feelings. That short time dating a virgin gives him a short time to feel loved, and to feel halfway normal.

When things inevitably take the next step (because he obviously can't ask a virgin to stay a virgin just for him to have someone to be with), it's all over for him as much as it is for the virgin. The biggest difference is, the heartbroken virgin can heal and move on. He can still find true love and a life with another...whereas Ciel cannot, and never will be able to. Perhaps he deserves some scorn for his actions, but what he really needs is someone to love him for the rest of his life.

Does this mean he won't do something reprehensible in the future out of spite or for the story's need to have a "bad guy?" Of course not, but I think Demi has given more thought to this story than to have something that plot-shallow happen."

Yeah, I was kinda taken aback by all the hate as well. But,*shrug*, he's wearing a TURTLENECK, the ultimate sign of a bad guy. :P

He Sounds like a Stand user or something.

... you say that, while I'm thinking to myself: "I keep picturing this guy sounding like DIO." Ironic, because this power is the Stand of a side JoJo.

Yeah, this is tragic but still doesn't rectify what he did to poor Frost.

It's really cool to see his ability explained, and it's super nice of you to answer questions in the comments! You did an amazing job coming up with an ability/power that provokes questions and interest. :)

I have a question too.....How did Ciel figure out how others perceive him?

this comic rily is something i like it a lot

So Ciel can be seen by virgins and not by normal people, and some people see him as a black shape?
Who can distinguish the unicorn from the black shape?
Wait, does them being hell touched have a reason to do with it?

ahh psychic invisibility gotcha, how would a pic of him on a cell phone or a video camera work?

Honestly, I picture Ciel's voice as Mathew McConaughey's.

The "angel" in his true form

The jock tiger reminds me of Devlin "Dev" Miski, a Tiger who plays cornerback on the Forrester University Football team, and the short fox, Wiley "Lee" Farrel, a cross-dressing red fox with an eye for spotting talented football players, from the book titled "Out of Position' by Kyell Gold.

Well-spotted, they are Dev and Lee. Kyell's characters got a cameo in this page (along with a few other of my patron's characters) :)

Weird and sad.