Where the Wild Things Are. Sendak.

In dubih tabblee.

And whaddaya mean 'Plato OR Socrates'?! You can't just put an | between those two and have an equivalency! That's like metric or imperial! Leaded or unleaded! Cat or dog!

More like C or Java, really.

The article mentions both of them, and inasmuch as all we know about what Socrates thought is what Plato says he did, the two *are* intertwined. But my failure to distinguish between them was more because I just don't remember for sure which the article was really talking about. Probably Plato... but Socrate's name certainly came up.

People in togas didn't typically eat fast-food.

They would've if they'd had it.

Sure they did. But by "fast food" they meant bread and cheese, with olives. Apart from fish and various veggies there wasn't much else, but fish you had to cook.

Did Socrates or Plato ever enjoy a good gyro? Or nosh on some yummy baklava? Mmmm....

I think ancient Greek bread was probably unlevened, and like "flat bread" (or tortillas). They might very well have had something like a shawarma, rather than a gyro.

The spirit of the ancient Greeks hangs over any time intellectuals gather to shoot the shit?

It's probably a greek diner.

Onion rings?

The article specifically mentioned onion rings. I added the colas and coffee own my own authority.

Somehow I don't think that's the point

if the waiter recommends the hemlock, pass.

I only got the first half of the article, so to be honest I have no idea what its point was. That the author knew a lot of stuff about Plato, I suppose.

Omigawd... I hope not.

I hope not this, I mean --

"The spirit of the ancient Greeks hangs over any time intellectuals gather to shoot the shit? "

Sorry that came out wrong, bad choice of words I guess.
Although isn't that what the Greek Philosphers did? Hang out and talk about intellectual issues?

Diogenes of Sinope was once asked by a student how to rid himself of impure thoughts. Diogenes responded by hiking up his toga and masturbating. The student was shocked and asked if that was really appropriate, and Diogenes replied "If only I could rid myself of hunger by rubbing my belly".

Yes. And then they got stinking drunk on resinated wine, and made dirty jokes until they threw up.

Ah, sounds just like college then

The first thing that came to my mind wasn't god or Santa. the title says Philosophers so the first thing that did come to mind was Socrates.

I find it amusing that the truth is when a group of friends gather in some sort of fast food restaurant it's usually a casual conversation about something philosophical that is the main subject... when movies or games are not in the equation, I wonder why?

In this case because they were philosophy students. Don't blame me... I didn't write the article. I'm not even sure why I illustrated it. I warned the zine editor that next time I'm asked to do something like this, I'm putting a nekkid skunk, or a robot, or a hot rod in it, whether it belongs or not.

When does a naked skunk and a robot riding a hot rod go out of context? As far as I'm concerned you could put that as a thought bubble and it would seem even more philosophical.

DON'T TEMPT HIM!

It's a pretty nice illustration for what it is. Though I have to say that I find the dude in the glasses on the lower right to be a little...off from the rest. A little, I dunno...looser and funkier than your usual. He looks like a Howard Cruise character somehow. It's neat.

I thought he looked from another age, myself, but I wasn't going to put myself to the bother of re-drawing him. This wasn't my favourite project by a long shot.

I still think he's there to cage some free munchies.

Kee-wrecked.

Then again, if it IS Socrates, I'm not sure I;d be chowing down as heavily on the onion rings...

I predict that after this.........Socrates himself will be Permanently Pissed........

I'd bet obals to onion rings Socrates was indeed a heavy drinker and pissed a lot of the time.

I also wonder if he had been in a soccer match.......with Greece Vs Germany........and another Russian player.......

"Damn, I could really go for them thar onion rings..."

Personally I don't think much of the Greek philosophers, perhaps based on a curious event: one of my sisters was in the process of adding another individual to the population, and as it was the first grandchild on both sides there was quite a fair amount of hoopla and flapdoodle. In the midst of all this, I happened to take down a copy (English trans) of Plato's Republic that I'd picked up years ago for some reason but never read, opened it at random and found him issuing a statement that all children at birth were to be taken from their parents and raised by strangers. "Well, Platty old boy," I murmured as I put it back on the shelf, "you really were dumber than dogsh-t..."

I have no idea why people revere Plato so... he sounded like a classic facist to me. But then, given how authoritarian most regimes in history have been, and how the intelligentsia have sucked up to power throughout the ages, maybe Plato's "popularity" should be a no-brainer. I bet Mao loved him too.

Ghost God approves of TGI Friday's onion rings. Best free advertising they could ever get.