"Sede Vacante," Part AA (Winterbough Saga Ep. 761) [Finish]
Tonight's episode is the final one in this story arc; the Master of Elfhame returns to the Capital, bearing the Bequest from the late Princess Sophy to her one-time rescuer, Marshal Roland.
There are a number of awkward questions, though, that first have to be dealt with, from the source that you can guess. What might be a little more puzzling is trying to decypher King Adler's position on the whole matter. He seems to have a rather curious point of view.
In any event, starting this coming Sunday, we will start the 29th adventure, "Taking the Fifth," a tale involving the Master of Elfhame being murthered multiple times...or so it appears.
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There are a number of awkward questions, though, that first have to be dealt with, from the source that you can guess. What might be a little more puzzling is trying to decypher King Adler's position on the whole matter. He seems to have a rather curious point of view.
In any event, starting this coming Sunday, we will start the 29th adventure, "Taking the Fifth," a tale involving the Master of Elfhame being murthered multiple times...or so it appears.
This is the Red Network of FurAffinity.
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Well, that was the whole point of that meeting we saw two episodes prior to this; they didn't offer the Copper Crown to WW5, because of the fear of the wrath that that offer might evoke from the Royal Skunks. King Adler might well have acceeded, but Crown Prince (and future King) Gawain is a different kettle of fish altogether.
Hence, Sir Nigel's "solution" to more or less keep things on hold until something or other resolves itself in the Mephitist Empire, which could take some time, of course. Princess Sophy's Testament does allow for the interim government to keep itself in existence until then.
Oh, and we'll be hearing more from Westpocket, by and by...
Hence, Sir Nigel's "solution" to more or less keep things on hold until something or other resolves itself in the Mephitist Empire, which could take some time, of course. Princess Sophy's Testament does allow for the interim government to keep itself in existence until then.
Oh, and we'll be hearing more from Westpocket, by and by...
Re: above, re a hypothetical accession by WW5 to the throne of Westpocket, and who his heir might be.
Under Elfhamian law, doe-fawns, if any, succeed to all property of the parents. The reason for this is historical, since it was the does that managed finances and property while the roebucks were off fighting (cf. Stella Winterbough, WW5's mother, running the persimmon farm at the time her husband, brother-in-law, and two sons were at Skull Forest); they wee also a lot more practical when it came to these matters, as nearly every Elfhamian roebuck would admit. As it stands right now, WW6 would inherit nothing, not even the title of Master of Elfhame (which is in the gift of the Crowns), though as a practical matter, his twin sister Stella Rosebush-Aspen, with whom he gets along well, would likely make some provision. Stella has been referred to as the Heiress of Elfhame, since she stands to inherit all of the Master's fursonal holdings, real and personal, in the Vale on his death.
(And yes, this does raise the issue -- noted in the story -- about Mamie von Northmark's inheritance rights, being a natural doe-fawn of WW3. It's difficult to say what, if anything, she would be entitled to, other than the Winterbough persimmon orchard, since WW5's wealth is all tied to his own efforts or his Mastership. Likely a moot point, therefore.)
The Copper Crown, hypothetically, would be an interesting point, since Elfhamian law would not apply. Westpocket law would apply. As the hypothetical head of the Royal House of Westpocket, WW5 could set whatever rule of succession he wanted to. He could choose to leave the Copper Crown to either Stella Rosebush-Aspen, or to WW6.
It's never been stated which twin is the elder of the pair.
Under Elfhamian law, doe-fawns, if any, succeed to all property of the parents. The reason for this is historical, since it was the does that managed finances and property while the roebucks were off fighting (cf. Stella Winterbough, WW5's mother, running the persimmon farm at the time her husband, brother-in-law, and two sons were at Skull Forest); they wee also a lot more practical when it came to these matters, as nearly every Elfhamian roebuck would admit. As it stands right now, WW6 would inherit nothing, not even the title of Master of Elfhame (which is in the gift of the Crowns), though as a practical matter, his twin sister Stella Rosebush-Aspen, with whom he gets along well, would likely make some provision. Stella has been referred to as the Heiress of Elfhame, since she stands to inherit all of the Master's fursonal holdings, real and personal, in the Vale on his death.
(And yes, this does raise the issue -- noted in the story -- about Mamie von Northmark's inheritance rights, being a natural doe-fawn of WW3. It's difficult to say what, if anything, she would be entitled to, other than the Winterbough persimmon orchard, since WW5's wealth is all tied to his own efforts or his Mastership. Likely a moot point, therefore.)
The Copper Crown, hypothetically, would be an interesting point, since Elfhamian law would not apply. Westpocket law would apply. As the hypothetical head of the Royal House of Westpocket, WW5 could set whatever rule of succession he wanted to. He could choose to leave the Copper Crown to either Stella Rosebush-Aspen, or to WW6.
It's never been stated which twin is the elder of the pair.
Basically, it was this:
It is clear (from her Testament), that Princess Sophy wanted WW5 to be her successor. This, in and of itself, is not a formal offer of the crown, though it could be read quite easily to be instructions to offer the Copper Crown.
There were various Approbations, specifically three: (1) WW5 calling the catnip mouse to him (though this was more due to its Elfhamian manufacture than anything else), (2) the chunk of stone smiting WW5's enemy Pimperenel; and (3) WW5 being able to handle the Copper Crown after Princess' Sophy's immolation. None constitutes a formal offer of the crown, though they could be read quite easily as the Gardener-Goddess' opinion on the subject.
The scene in the ruined temple where the ministers and the priests and priestesses all agree that WW5 is suitable is not, in and of itself, a formal offer of the Copper Crown, though it was clear that had Pimpernel not intervened, something like it would have happened.
Finally, there's the scene in the Ministerial Chambers, where the issue of the Succession crops up. This, as WW5 notes, is where the official and legal offer, if it were to be made, would be made. The decision instead was to put the Succession in abeyance.
WW5 is referred to, you'll notice, as The Candidate, which means he is under consideration for the Copper Crown (for the reasons set forth above). But no offer has been made.
Exit query: did King Adler deliberately set the question in a particular way to shut down the debate, in the last episode?
It is clear (from her Testament), that Princess Sophy wanted WW5 to be her successor. This, in and of itself, is not a formal offer of the crown, though it could be read quite easily to be instructions to offer the Copper Crown.
There were various Approbations, specifically three: (1) WW5 calling the catnip mouse to him (though this was more due to its Elfhamian manufacture than anything else), (2) the chunk of stone smiting WW5's enemy Pimperenel; and (3) WW5 being able to handle the Copper Crown after Princess' Sophy's immolation. None constitutes a formal offer of the crown, though they could be read quite easily as the Gardener-Goddess' opinion on the subject.
The scene in the ruined temple where the ministers and the priests and priestesses all agree that WW5 is suitable is not, in and of itself, a formal offer of the Copper Crown, though it was clear that had Pimpernel not intervened, something like it would have happened.
Finally, there's the scene in the Ministerial Chambers, where the issue of the Succession crops up. This, as WW5 notes, is where the official and legal offer, if it were to be made, would be made. The decision instead was to put the Succession in abeyance.
WW5 is referred to, you'll notice, as The Candidate, which means he is under consideration for the Copper Crown (for the reasons set forth above). But no offer has been made.
Exit query: did King Adler deliberately set the question in a particular way to shut down the debate, in the last episode?
Sorry to be a little late to this but life, until very recently, has been conspiring to prevent me from keeping up with WW5's story. Recent events have granted me time and opportunity to catch up with a few things and so I here I am reading and finally commenting.
I note King Adler specifically asked about the crown of Westpocket being offered to WW5... and as we know, along with most of the regalia of Westpocket, it is no more and therefore could not be offered. Again we see hints that King Adler knows and understands much more than would be expected of an infirm and isolated King.
The fact that privately Prince Roland specifically asks a more general question about the Regalia in general (and this could be seen to include any 'newer' items) shows that he may have well seen through WW5 and his Brother's conversation and was looking to confirm his own thoughts. The fact that he accepted WW5's non-answer shows again his level of trust and unwillingness to place pressure on the situation.
On to the next story.
I note King Adler specifically asked about the crown of Westpocket being offered to WW5... and as we know, along with most of the regalia of Westpocket, it is no more and therefore could not be offered. Again we see hints that King Adler knows and understands much more than would be expected of an infirm and isolated King.
The fact that privately Prince Roland specifically asks a more general question about the Regalia in general (and this could be seen to include any 'newer' items) shows that he may have well seen through WW5 and his Brother's conversation and was looking to confirm his own thoughts. The fact that he accepted WW5's non-answer shows again his level of trust and unwillingness to place pressure on the situation.
On to the next story.
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