:D helpful

Ah, this is handy!
Can you/will you do one for mice? I have a mouse son, and he is my precious boy and sometimes i feed treats. (ФДФ)

Sadly I've never had mice, and don't know much about them u_u I wish I could help but just try to do lots of research and talk to rescues, I'm sure you can sift through the bullshit information that some people spout <33 It sucks about how much misinformation is out there about small animals

omg seriously. don't get me started on kaytee products...
There is even LESS info about pet mice than rats... It's hard to find good sources. ;_; it's all about pest control with mice.

Yeah I noticed that too :c It's really sad. Kaytee is a shit brand, it makes me really angry to see their stuff especially their food >_> I know their toys have killed some rabbits too, and the pellets are a recipe for disaster.

Exactly... ugh... really awful, considering a lot of people will trust them for their look... hhhh.. how many parents are gonna deal with their kids pet dying so prematurely...

All we can do is spread info far and wide and hope it can help people catch themselves before something terrible happens! :c

Sorry to butt in, but I saw you mention Kaytee brand items, and I was just wondering if their paper bedding is safe for rabbits. A friend of mine is babysitting their in-law's buns and it seems they forgot to bring litter for their box. Kaytee was the only brand of paper bedding she was able to find at her local pet supply.

Yeah! Their bedding is fine, so is their hay. Their pellet, treats, and toys are not the best though. Horse stall pellets or wood stove fuel pellets (accelerant-free) are also good cheap litter options. But yeah Kaytee bedding is fine c:

Awesome. Thanks for the heads up. I haven't owned any small mammals in a long time and I didn't know that some of their products could be harmful and I got a bit nervous there for a minute. XD

I know people who've had rabbits for 30+ years and still buy garbage products!! 0: Life is weird lol. I hope in the future only good products that have the animals health in mind will be sold.

I notice avocado gets on a lot of NO EAT pet lists. Do people just HAVE avocados laying around? Like, I've bought one ever in my entire life. I didn't even know they were a thing you could buy in a store until recently. o_O And why are they so bad for so many animals?

Haha they're popular in a lot of mexican dishes. And a lot of people have noticed they exist recently and are going nuts with them. The texture is unsettling to me personally lol
Avocados contain a toxic principle known as persin which can be bad news a rabbit and many other animals. If ingested it can cause respiratory distress, congestion, fluid accumulation around the heart, and even death.

Yeah, sadly there's a lot of stuff sold in stores that are shit for rabbits :c I used to feed yogurt drops to my first rabbit because I assumed if it said it was for rabbits it was fine. Luckily those treats are fine for rats since they're omnivores c: Rabbits (and guinea pigs) are herbivores and shouldn't eat dairy or bread.
I honestly have no idea, I guess they put as many animals on the package as possible so they can gain a wider consumer audience and therefore make more money. I even know 'vet approved' pellets and treats that can easily kill rabbits. Not all vets are rabbit savvy and may think that stuff is fine. It's disappointing .

It's sad, I hope for a more pet-conscious future instead of this money obsessed companies shitting out whatever's convenient for them >:c

Not everything sold in pet stores is safe for your animals, it always helps to do a bit of extra research to avoid issues! I know that maybe rats and hamsters are the only ones that should have yogurt and that's case by case. I think it's cause they are more omnivorous, rather than herbivores like rabbits.

That's good! I know rats are pretty hardy, but some people have little problem children. I cna't wait to share more veggies with my bunny girls next summer when our garden is decently setup.

You still have your rat buddies? I'm curious for pics. ;;u;;

That def makes up for it. that's the coolest dog on the block. UwU

Sorry for your loss, but at least you have good memories of the little ratties. They're such sweet things.

Give all your non safe treats to me. I will help get rid of those harmfull things! Im a hero!

My girls freaken love dandelions and kale, also orange peel. I thought it was super weird orange peel is something they can eat, but I've seen it considered a treat.

I love these little things you do tho. Very good bunny info.

My rabbits will munch on the banana peel if I'm not fast enough to give them the actual fruit >:o Crazy bunnies. Kale is a big hit here too <3

They love the treats, one of my girls will barrel into you for them, then she daintily takes it from you munches until the next treat. It's so funny.

I like giving them kale and spinach, but I know you have to be careful, cause they're an oxalate. So I usually mix in dandelions and bok choy. What brand do you use for your pellet feed? (sorry about all the questions there's like no rabbit people to talk to)

Rabbits are feisty little critters xD Mine like to take the entire apple when I offer them a nibble
I feed oxbow pellets but mostly veggies and hay for their diet c:

Omg (sorry Venus for feeding you bad!) saving this for when I get a new rabbit yikes I didn't know about the yogurt

We all make mistakes :c I didn't know how important spay/neuter was and my first rabbit passed away due to that. All we can do is learn more and do better.

Sadly I think the yogurt (and some poor cage cleaning skills)killed Venus but I'm doing better research so next time I'll be a better bun mom

I'm sorry for your loss :c Rabbit.org is good to learn of their proper care and talking to rabbit rescues about how to handle problems is also a great idea :> I wish for a better bunny-parent future for you. I'm still learning everyday and I've had my buns for years.

I've got some rabbit food right here...
/me unzips

can i ask about rice puffs/treats? i feed them to my rabbit all the time and she loves em but if something like that could hurt her i'd stop;;;

From what I can tell they're only okay in small amounts because rabbits aren't really big on grains. As long as your rabbit has no issue eating them and isn't obese they should be fine having them every so often.

ok cool! thank you for letting me know ^o^

Sadly those are full of sugar and rice/corn based treats aren't great for rabbits. It's extremely hard for their guts to deal with pure carbs and sugar like that. :c Honestly the only good treat in pet store I'd say are oxbow or timothy hay cubes. Vitakraft, kaytee, All living things, Great choice, and WARE are popular treat/food brands (in usa) but make a lot of garbage. Their plain grass hay is fine though, it's hard to fuck up hay lol. :D There's lots of good things you could try to feed instead on the link I posted tho!

Photo examples of good and bad treats: https://imgur.com/a/S4AAb

When I said there's lots of good things to feed instead, I meant this link: http://rabbit.org/suggested-vegetab.....a-rabbit-diet/

oh dang! thanks for the photos too! i'll be more careful in the future for sure

Best wishes to you and your bunny :>

Eep!... I've heard slightly differently from vets? Or at least, when it comes to the yogurt drops and the lettuce?

From what I've heard, the yogurt drops aren't exactly 'good', but they aren't 'bad' either; they're okay as a treat/something they get occasionally, but not as part of their daily diet? Kind of like donuts or triple chocolate fudge ice cream for people - not something you want to eat with every meal every day, but not a problem every now and then? Yogurt isn't exactly a 'dairy' in the sense of digestion, since it already has all those lactase bacteria working at breaking down the harder stuff, so it's a lot easier to digest than other milk products. I've stopped giving sugar of any kind to one of my rabbits to help with his digestion, but I think that was more a sugar/carbs and a not eating the grass thing (teef problems :( ) than a yogurt drops thing. My other rabbit hasn't had any problems though and I've given him OCCASIONAL yogurt drops all his life (emphasis on occasional).

I've also been warned about lettuce... it's not that lettuce in and of itself is bad, but lettuce bought in a supermarket for humans tends to be grown with pesticides that targets rabbits, so it's better to get 'organic' or 'grown without pesticides' lettuce instead of just grabbing one off the shelf?

Ooo wow o: I'd probably walk out of the office if I heard that from my vet. I've walked out on uneducated vets like that before. I don't understand why vets accept rabbits if they don't actually understand them. Yogurt drops aren't safe, especially not when there's many many many alternative treats that pose no risks to feed instead.
I wish more vets would either 1: actually study rabbits and receive updated info 2: don't accept rabbits if they don't actually know what they're talking about. These are good tips to find a rabbit-savvy vet: http://rabbit.org/faq-how-to-find-a.....od-rabbit-vet/ and talking to a local rabbit rescue about their recommendations is also a great idea.

my rabbits live under a HUGE avocado tree and every day i get up hella early to make sure no leaves have gotten into their cage
its the worst, but luckily they need to eat a LOT of avocado leaves to be dangerous

Oh wow :c That's another reason bunnies don't belong outdoors. I hope one day they can live indoors c:

http://rabbit.org/faq-rabbits-outdoors/

http://rabbit.org/faq-outdoor-and-i.....anion-rabbits/

http://www.saveabunny.org/rabbitcar.....ors-vs-indoors

they do sometimes, but until my families puppy can be trained not to yell at them we will just have to keep a sharp eye out on their health!

Sadly its much more likely something like stasis, flystrike, or west nile fever will be the end of a bunny outdoors. Predators, exposure, parasites and cruel humans are issues in every part of the world for outdoor rabbits. Rabbits who live outdoors live shorter, less quality lives and are constantly at risk. :c
I've lived with many dogs before and my bunnies never had to live outdoors, even dogs who have high prey drive. This article is great in regards to dogs x rabbits: http://www.rabbit.org/journal/1/dogs.html
I hope you can work something out! Maybe check out the other articles I posted about outdoor housing too c: They explain it really well.

My bad if it seems pushy, I've personally seen way too many bunnies die outdoors to not say something. I've kept my concerns to myself before and then I hear the terrible news of a lost bunny a few months later and it just breaks my heart. Some rabbits can survive outdoors, but it's not the same quality of life and the risk that something will happen is very very high and not a risk to put a beloved companion through. If you need help finding a solution I can do my best to help.