D:

I LOVE the feel of fur and honestly consider buying a real fox arrow holder but...still everytime I see one i go D:

I understand that. The rabbits... are from a company I trust, the fox was from people I know at a renne fair.

Let's hope PETA doesn't get a hold of this. ^^; *laughs*

Very lovely furs. <:3

aren't they more acting against the abuse of animals?
if these guys are already gone then i doubt they could put up much of a fight ^^

Please remove these from FA >_>

No.

Oh, alright.

Lemme go ahead and post pictures of my fur coats. The ones I killed foxes for. Hell why not pictures of stuffed rabbits while im at it? *Laughs insanely*


>_>

please do.

Faggot

And yes I mean Audio. You sir, are a faggot to eat all faggotry and become super faggot! duhtatadahhh!!!

0_0

This photo creatres various conflicting emotional responces, and I'm not sure which one I should act upon. I hope the animals were killed humanly.

I'm sure they were.

Thats good.

One of the reasons alot of people disapprove of fox furs is alot of the "farmed" foxes are killed by shoving an electrode up their ass (this method doesn't damage the fur like shooting or inhumane leg traps but is still very painful...as far as I've heard/can imagine). Of course the method of killing would be the difference between eating meat and just inhumanely killing for the fur. Having a totem animal myself I can understand the desire for mementos. I have had passing desires to have a wolf skin but I've pretty much determined I'd have to make the kill myself and then only if it was a gift from the wolf itself...And even then...I'm not sure I could do it. The way I look at things you should earn these mementos.

*sigh* hope I'm not coming off to preachy and I'm not saying you shouldn't have them Tangie, cause it does sound like you have the proper respect for them and everything. Eh...sorry for rambling.

I'ld rather have a live animal than a skinned one personaly *hipocritcaly looks at the scraps of possum fur in the draw of his bedside table* and though I don't agree with having a whole animal pelt, I can undestand the reasons behind foxy wanting to be proud and show off her collection. First impression I got when I saw this was 'wow, thats something the godhatesfurries guy would do. posting dead animal skins just to get a reaction out of the furs.

And though I don't know foxy personaly like some of you here do. I know enough about her to know this is clearly not what she was attempting to do. So I can discard my first impression and simply go áwww cute the fox has googly eyes':)

I hope you don't get too much drama from this miss tangerine.

no problem flamey ears.

These are part of my totem animals. I have the cat, the fox, and the unicorn. One of those I can't get. One of those is extremely hard to find, but I"ve seen, and the other... I have ^_^ To each their own. Im posting them because they're beautiful and because I just... its part of me and I'm letting other people into a private view of my life. If people wanna be drama llama about it, so be it ^_^

I am proud of my flamey ears :p.. they light up when people talk about me :p

And I can understand wanting to show your many fans (myself included) a little something extra about yourself. Though personaly I'ld be really impressed if you could get a hold of that unicorn pelt :) As far as I know, the few remaining herds are somewhere deep in the European forests, so they would be awfuly hard to track down ^ .=.^


and too much drama llama will cause somebody to summon the fail whale :p

FAIL WHALE!??!?! that's AWESOME!!!! hahhaha

Well thanks for the look Tangie. Honestly I didn't even realize you were into totem animals too.

that was awesome. I use the furs for display. A fox means a lot to me, its one of my totem animals and in a way, displaying it and seeing it, being able to touch it and talk to it puts me that much closer to my totem.

We eat meat to live. Do we need furs to live? No.

Nnngghh, untill we invented synthetics, or untill far-reaching trade was availible to those in areas without, say, cotton reasources; actually, we kinda did.
More applied to the other Homo species before us, not us (that being Homo sapiens sapiens).

I agree with that, though that was hundreds of years ago. In today's world. People can live in exotic climates without the use of fur.

Hundreds? What country are you in?

Inuits (did i spell that right?) still do if i remember correctly?

Hell. Hunting has kept my ass from starving more than once. And I'm not that old. Well, okay, yeah, I'm old.

well if we eat the animal why let the fur go to waste?

Yeah, and with the synthetics we fuck even harder the planet, with the industrial process we are poluting the air, the water, with natural fabrics we are also killing species and chopping trees for more farming land to produce cotton and so forth.

Yay humans!

And yet here you are, using a computer in a powered house, chugging down megawatts of energy produced through coal or oil plants, wearing clothes made with synthetic dyes and produced in factories, sitting in a chair containing more toxins than a bottle of poison, condemning others.

There is not much irony in here... Captain Obvious!

But Hey! At least I'm not a vegetarian!

well useing the hide of and animal that was killed for food is better then wasteing it and leaveing it to rot
but yea killing just for fur is wrong its just a waste

Thank you.

I've never heard of a human eating a fox before. Killing them for their tails and pelts is pointless, and a waste of their good life. I'm sure that vixen and rabbits are turning in their graves right now, but they probbably tossed their fleshy corpses to the side and let them rot. >_>

no problem
the way i was raised, you dont kill a animal unless you intend to eat it it just a shame most peaple dont live by that rule
i see alot of deer laying int the woods with thir horns cut off and other animals just missing the heads its just not right

see, that deer thing is wrong. I love venisin.

I do not know what happened to the body of the fox but I do know that I will care for the pelt as if the fox herself is still alive. If people have a issue with that, hey, thats life. Its what I do. I have a reason for owning the fur. I have a damn good reason in my opinion.

Thanks for putting your imput in too

You and Audio are bawwing to the wrong crowd. Not trying to be a bitch but yeah...I hunt...I kill animals. I'm a fgirl. I don't care what type of animal I kill, just so I know it's in season to do it. I sell animal fur? Is that wrong?

Humans use fur to keep warm in winter. They are used for survival.
True..I hunt for sport and for survival. To me, the trill of hunting is amazing. I can bond with family and friends while doing it.

Instead of just saying, "OMG WHHHYYY! D: D: D:?!?!"
Why don't you just not comment at all?
Yes you have your veiws...but seriously.


Foxy...Those furs are simply divine and you are taking great care of them.
I wish you many more beautiful furs in your future. :3
I have many tails and full furs.
I'm a proud owner of them..

ALSO...Venison is AWESOME.

thank you!

Marry me.

...did I say that out loud?

Um...already taken dude.

Can I at least have your children?

Yes. Have my childern. Take them. Please...

awesome finally someone had the perfect nicely positioned shiny balls to say what i've noticed SO many people tip toeing around ^^
some people like it others hate it, but i see no point in damning an swearing at us humans for being humans 9_9;;

I know right. >:

on a more personal note, hahaha (my personal account obviously)
not only do i love meat just cause (ESPECIALLY red meat) but just as those that choose to become vegetarian either cause their body rejects something in it, or they don't like harming animals, or they have a higher feeling with seeing they are taking life, i also know that with my beliefs what I believe I have been clearly told that the animals of the land are my right to eat, the grains an seeds of the earth are for us all. an not to get preachy in case you're not Christian but i'm just trying to prove a point with how rude some people are pushing their "you're eating habit is fail" on others because not only is everyone's body different an unless he/she specifies in human anatomy which i don't see being the case then he/she has no place to say that we're full of crap, but there's also many spiritual/religious foundations in why humans eat meat an continue to do so, stubbornly:

Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

it's as simple as that

Does this mean we can't be friends? >:

what cause you're not Christian or something? BAH! no. lol.
i was merely making a point, not trying to enforce anything, hahaha.
even if i wasn't Christian my realistic brain would have researched any forms of religion that use words that the worlds animals are possessions an the rights of the humans or something.

it of course doesn't state anywhere that we must torture these animals, nor does it say we have to treat them equally an like humans themself, but it does say we can eat them... no matter the animal. whether it's red meat, venison, chicken, or pork.

but by all means, we can be buddies, haha i don't mind.
on another note i've always wanted to go hunting with my husband. possibly start with quails or something, then maybe later try deer.

Quials are harder to hunt than you think.
They can stay silent for hours but if you startle them, they fly like wild birds.
It's hard to land a shot.
I'd start with wild turkey.

Hmmm I suppose. I'd have to look into it once I stopped moving around, hahaha
I like me some turkey too ^^ maybe i can hunt cow. lulz j/k

xD
I can see that..

Cow: Moooooooooo *gunshotted* erroooooo

You: YES! I SHOT MY FIRST.....*looks* Awwwwwww....ITS SO CUTE! *hugs dead cow*

Your boi: Um....Now we can eat? Yeah.....we can eat...WOO! BURGERS AND STEAKS ALL AROUND!

it's incredibly hard hunting a cow, they are indeed a formidable foe XDDD

X3

speakin of cow, that reminds me of when that veggie guy was saying, "don't eat red meat!" an all that jazz, i kept thinking to myself, "it sure isn't red if you cook it long enough, hahaha"

would u quit bitch en

Totally win.

Yeah if I were to kill a fox, wolf...whatever I would still salvage as much meat as I could, as well as any mementos I may have use for,and leave what I could not use for the forest to reclaim.

Oh go and hug a tree already...Jesus Buddy Christ.

I AM A HUNTER!
I AM FEMALE!
I KILL ANIMALS!

To you, I am a BAAAAD person.

People like you are why there are Emo kids in the world. ):<

*chuckles*

Ish true though. x:

not denying it but i can't make personal comments on this account so i just gave general comments about things XD

The sheep didn't die for that, though. Wool is removed without taking the life of the animal. It's removed through a simple, painless haircut.

unless it's australian wool...


WARNING!: peta site
http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/wool_boycott

or they are getting meat from the sheep as well... i mean there are countless countries that eat sheep.

You don't need meat to live. I'm a pescetrain (meaning I'm a veggie who eats fish occasionaly), but after actually analyzing my diet, I don't need to eat the fish for any protein or anything. Everything you can get from meat can be found in a healthier form in various vegetarian foods. Besides, the human body was not meant for red meats. Poultry and fish are the only things our body can actually process correctly with minimal negative effects (look it up). And since few people get offended by chicken feathers and fish scales in people's clothing, so one really cares.

You kill lots of beautiful mammals unnecessarily (and often inhumanly) by eating meat. Three furs verses 100 hamburgers seems like a no brainier to me. Also, cows are a main cause of greenhouse gasses, so by eating the burger, you're killing our earth.

wait... by eating the burger we're killing the earth? I thought we'd be saving it if we're eating the animal that makes the gasses *giggles*

We have so many cows because so many Americans eat beef all the time. If we stopped eating the beef, we could stop needing so many cows, and we could stop cutting down the rainforest to make fields for them, that have to be replaced every so many years because the cows making plan life unlivable from them living on it, and there is no grass for them to feed. It's a viscous cycle that could stopped if we just stopped eating beef. Save the earth, go soy :3 (plus WAY more healthy for you)

I know... I can't do soy tho it makes me very very very sick.

but I was just kidding with you about saving the planet by eating cows lol

Are you allergic?

Sorry, it's one of those subjects I end up taking a bit too seriously at times. :3

but if we went soy wouldnt we have to tare up more of the wilderness to made fields to grow it in cows far as land goes are low impact you only need to fields you graze them on one and when thay eat that down move them to the other and repeat and you dont need to spray them all that much to kill off bugs and fungus. iv never grown soy but i have grown other foods and out of all of them beef its the lowest impact on the land
beef it prity unhealthy for you compared to other meats but most peaple wont eat the other kinds

No. Cows are supper bad for the land. They stomp the grow down so it takes a long, long time for anything to be able to grow again. Yes, that works where there is lots of land a few cows, but not for the mass production meats, where they pack the area full. And when they move on, they need to cut down more trees, and they leave the barren wasteland behind. Soy, being a plant, does the opposite of cows and improve the atmosphere, and actually takes the CO2 from the air and turners it back into oxygen, as well as a highly edible product that can be rotated with other crops to produce a completely sustainable plot of land. PLUS, keep in mind that cows need to eat, so you need another plot of land to grow the food for their entire lifetime. It ends up costing hundreds to raise that cow to maturity, and not so much for a plant. You don't really need to feed soy. Cows are actually terribly insufficient for water and land use, plus they don't give anything back but high cholesterol and methane. And I've taken college courses on this subject, as well as dated a cattle rancher, so I think I have a good idea of what I'm talking about.

But if we eat the soy, we hurt the earth by reducing the amount of atmosphere.

Meat, beans, and protein are all something the human body needs. Not everyone is the same. Not everyone can follow your logic because not everyone processes food the same way you do.

I happen to love veggies just as much as any fruit or meat. I especially love raw tuna. YUMM!


~~~Fusion

No, by planting more soy, we increase the CO2 intake and amount of oxygen being produced.

No human needs red meat protien alone. We are different, but we aren't that different. Anyone can survive and thrive on a vegitarian diet, just most don't know how. It's more difficult to master, but the end results are worth it.

I love sushi, it's one of the reasons I eat fish. :3

No, not everyone can.
Fact.
I knew someone personally. His girlfriend, coincidently my best friend, had been a veggie since she was 8. She guided him through it and taught him to eat healthily and do it properly. He became pale, anaemic, and generally unwell. He was advised by a doctor after a few months of this to return to eating some meat.

I know 3 vegetarians extremely well, 2 are family members, one is a long term friend.
One of them is extremely healthy. The other is average. The third is pretty unhealthy, often ill, not a hardy or robust person.
And what do you know, I also know some extremely healthy meat eaters, and some sickly ones.
You simply CANNOT say 'this diet is more healthy than this one because all the veggies I know are healthy!!'
Yes, Im sure many are. But there are many healthy meat eaters too. There is no proof that a responsibly done vegetarian diet is any more healthy than a responsibly done diet with meat. Sorry.

"The human body was not meant for red meats?"

Dude, have you ever taken a good look at, oh, say your teeth?? There's a reason you have those incisors and canine, bud. Humans are omnivores. We're designed to eat meat. Just because we cannot digest something efficiently doesn't mean we're not supposed to eat it. Further, I should point out that if we didn't eat cows (etc.), they would overpopulate and we'd have to kill them anyway, and just leave the meat to rot in a field! And wouldn't [i]that[/t] be just a lovely site.

... Your theory is FULL of holes. I said no to red meat, but said poultry and fish are fine. Those are meats. And yeah, I'd say if we can't digest it, we weren't meant to eat it. And I'm supporting the idea that we don't need to eat it. Like we really don't need to eat corn, because we don't digest it much; it's meant for other animals that can digest it. And, do you think that every single one of those cows in the feedlots and fields that were made by cutting down the rainforest were just wondering around before? We breed them to the populations that we have now. If we stopped eating the meat, we won't have to breed them, and we wouldn't have the mass amounts of methane gas produced from them. The beef cow is not exactly a wild animal anymore, thanks to humans playing god.

I wasn't aware we had rain forests in North America. And technically, fish is *not* considered a meat by many religions. Why do you think McDonalds usually has them on sale during Lent? Further, every single farm around where I am has trees on their lots where they have cows. Half the time, they've a full-fledged wood. Frankly, fields of plants take up more space than grazing cattle.

Also, speak for yourself about the corn thing; I digest it just fine. ;P

Not everything we use in the USA comes from here. A very large portion of our beef and leather comes from over seas where laws are looser, and there is more land. Just like most fabrics, metals, and almost everything else. I consider it a meat because it was formerly a conscious living thing. I live in a place with feed lots, which is where most of the meat in the USA comes from. You see "free range farms" which are costly, but more humane.

Then you must have some funky enzymes in your body to break it down fully.

"Funky Enzymes" sounds like a good name for a band.

Bummer on the living area. :-P

It does, haha.

It's just reality. States like CA have laws against feedlots, so they only have the free range farms, which are those vast fields with lots of trees you see on the highway, but that has become the images of beef farming instead of the truth that is this http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr.....15_feedlot.jpg .

You're pretty self-righteous, there, buddy.
A lot of vegetarians are actually pretty sickly, anaemic, and have bowel troubles. Not 100% all of them, but a fair few. I've met more than just one or three in my time.

Basically, humans have canine and incisor teeth, for the shearing, cutting, and chewing of meat.
We also have grinding teeth, made for chewing plants, nuts, etc. I'm gonna go with what nature provided me to judge what I was 'meant' to eat.

Also, plants scream when you kill them. Just because it's too high/soft a vibration for your ears to hear doesn't mean that the plant doesn't 'know' in its limited capacity that it is dying. In short, you cannot live without killing.

I'm an omnivore, and my diet isn't a big deal. Neither is yours. Please stop being so preachy about it.

No one is actually reading what I'm saying... I said you can eat meat, just not RED meat. I eat fish, I'm an omnivore too. And yes, some stupid people use vegetarianism as a means to get thin. I'm not thin. And I'm a hell of a lot healthier than the carnivores I know.

And for the plants screaming, I think that's just hippy spiritual malarkey. Plant cells have no means of producing sound. It's probably just the knife friction making a squeak. The only lips a plant has is to release oxygen. They have no conscious thought, they just have chemical reactions that tell them to grow.

And diet is everything. You are what you eat. Religious sects have formed around this idea. You obviously just don't care enough to listen to what your body really needs. Besides, you're red meet is killing the earth off, so it matters much more than you think. GMOs, chemicals and deforestation are not a healthy future.

And I'll be as preachy as I want because 1) no one foreced you to read this, and 2) I like righting wrongs and fighting ignorance in the world.

So... The Canadian, American, and British Healthy Foods Guide is entirely wrong, and only you and your way holds the secret to being actually healthy?
I think that's pretty pretentious and high and mighty of you. A lot of medical professionals have collaborated on making those daily eating guides, and I think it's pretty safe to say that they know more about what's healthy for you than either you or me.
Unless like, they're all conspiring with The Man in a dastardly plot to line your gut with undigested red meat or something.

Do you get annoyed when Christians tell you you're going to go to Hell because of your lifestyle and all that? You calling me and others a murderer and saying I'm destroying the earth because I eat meat is basically just as baseless and rude of an accusation. It's also rude to say I don't care about my body. I keep healthy and fit and keep a diet that works for me, and the majority of the world's population.

I'm glad you're happy being mostly vegetarian and I hope it works for you. I hope there are always places around that provide you with what you need to continue the path you've chosen. I just don't think you should be throwing words around like 'murderer' and the like.

I do agree that there is a disgusting overpopulation of people in the world, which in turn creates a disgusting overpopulation of feed animals. We pretty much need a plague.

...

Yeah, and look at how damn healthy those places are... Most of the very well educated science and biology teachers I have had are vegetarians. In fact, many well educated, and even genius people were. There is obviously something beneficial to the lifestyle. The places and cultures with the longest life expectancy are places where their food pyramids are starch based, and meat is only a small part, and it's often fish or pultry. I think the one who live longer have it correct.

When did I use the word "murderer"? And yes, I have my right to speak my mind and talk about what I think is right. Christians think I'm going to hell, and I think you are eating wrong. It's an opinion.

So, in essence, you are saying it would be more beneficial and easy to have vast amount of innocent people die from disease than for you to stop eating hamburgers?

People in aforementioned regions aren't healthy because they don't follow the food guide.

And to answer the question: Yep. Pretty much.
Screw people. There's 10 billion of us anyways, it's about time some of us died off.
Hey, if that includes me, then cool. That's life. I die when I die.

I actually eat mostly plants, starch, rice, etc. Meat is generally a smallish part of what I eat. I reserve the right to eat it freely. Meat tastes good and gives me nutrients. It doesn't make me dumb to want to do that -- Just as I don't think you're dumb for being a vegetarian. I just think your methods of going about trying to 'save the world' or something by saying UGH ALL US WHO EAT MEAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE KILLING OF THE PLANET is really fear-mongering and a stupid way of going about it, to be base.

You did say I was killing off the planet because I'm eating animals. Unless you can provide 100% failproof evidence that shows that because people eat meat, the world is dying, I will continue to eat my steak every few days. You shouldn't claim something like that unless you have evidence on hand. It makes you look very holier-than-thou, and I really don't think that's how you're trying to come across, but it does.

How much research do you put into your thoughts? Because I have a whole hell of a lot. You have no idea what your talking about, and I am done talking to you. I don't debate meat eaters often because you rarely ever look into ANYTHING! Read some literature on the subject. My entire class at my college had to read a book called The Omnivores Dilemma. That illustrates perfectly where your meat actually comes form, and how it's killing us and the earth. You should really look into the subject you choose to pick fights about; maybe you'd actually learn something.

You know what? Its vegetarians like you that give them all a bad name. My best friend is veggie and cites people like you as the reason she is often embarrassed to mention it to people. I really don't want to hate vegans and vegetarians, my brother, aunt and best friend of 14 years are all veggie, but jesus......you're a parody of the stereotypical preachy, holier than thou vegetarian and if I were veggie, I'd be embarrassed having someone like you represent me.

You're also somewhat hypocritical since you eat fish. My brother would claim that doesn't make you any more a vegetarian than someone shovelling down beef burgers all day.
Just eat the diet you want to eat and shut the fuck up about it as if it makes you some kind of morally superior martyr.

Just as a matter of interest for you, not everyone on earth is identical.
Just as someone can smoke 90 cigarettes a day and not ever be ill, whereas someone else smokes 10 a day and gets lung cancer. Just as someone can eat as much junk food as they like and not get fat, whereas someone else gains weight by merely LOOKING at a chocolate bar, we're all different and don't all react exactly the same.

And for some people, it is not possible to be healthy on a vegetarian or vegan diet.
For a lot of people, yes, it is. But do not assume EVERYONE can. Dieticians will attest to this, that some people, even if they do everything right with their diet, they will not be in good health without some animal products. I've known someone like this first hand.

If you wanna be vegan, fine, do so, go nuts. But don't ever dare assume that everyone else on earth should make the same choice, or get up on your 'YOU'RE KILLING OUR EARTH!!!' high horse, as if you have never done anything that negatively impacts on the earth.
How many animals get killed in the process of harvesting vegetarian foods?
None of us live without killing something, not even you.

There but for the grace of god go I.

I am sick of having this argument with people I never meant to talk to. I started this comment to say that humans do not NEED red meat. And I still stand by that. And as for your friends who didn't work with vegetarian diets, it's a long term process of figuring out what works. I went back to eating fish because I was afraid that I wasn't getting enough protein. Not one single meal plan will work, some people need more of certain things, and it all depends on body size, metabolism, and a whole bunch of other things. It's not easy, and some people have a very hard time figuring it out. And it is a proven fact that red meat is bad for you. I don't care if you eat poultry, and I don't care if you eat fish. I am just telling you that red meat is all around bad, and no one NEEDS it.

And what do you mean "How many animals get killed in the process of harvesting vegetarian foods?" I'm not sure what you think vegetable farming is, but I can assure you it has little to do with the death of animals.

And you are killing the planet, we all are. Me too. But we have a chance of listening, and possibly reversing if people wise up and go back to more natural ways. Do some research on the topic and you will see this is true.

So, please, stop arguing with me. The FACT remains that you do not need red meat. If you have a problem with that, then just IGNORE me. Don't go leaving 3 comments saying the same damn thing on a topic that has nothing to do with you. How did you even find this comment thread? It was made a long time ago. Or do you just have nothing better to do than read through old comments?

Maybe you are right, maybe I am right, but the fact still remains that no one needs to eat red meat.

Hmmm... actually. How many animal's homes are permanently displaced due to farming in general? How many birds were pushed to the edge of extinction by pesticides used to grow vegetables? How many fish and aquatic mammals die every year because of excess nitrogen runoff from vegetable farming? How big is the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico this year? If you really want to count, millions of animals die from vegetable farming.

The cost to the environment is actually greater when vegetables are farmed out of season or transported enormous distances to still be fresh in a location where they are not currently in season. So if you really want to do the right thing you don't eat vegetarian, you eat local. Within your own parish or county - it's just as bad to ship fresh food from the other end of the country as it is the world. It's more natural to eat what grows or lives in your area than it is to ship it to you across the world.

The fact is that in many parts of the world the soil is far too poor to support anything but pasture for grazing animals. In places where a naturally sustainable vegetable based agriculture is not feasible it is far preferable to raise animals for their milk, eggs, fur, and meat. Local sustainability is far more important for global sustainability than you're giving credit.

If you have a problem with that, then just IGNORE me.

Like you could do? You have left more comments than I have on this, I think you'll find. Practice what you preach. This topic wasn't even about meat, you turned it into that, derailed it, then you have the nerve to tell me to 'ignore things I don't like'?
Typical preachy vegetarian; happy to spout your views and expect everyone else to listen and believe you, then tell other people they're not allowed to leave theirs. LMFAO.

WIN

And what do you mean "How many animals get killed in the process of harvesting vegetarian foods?" I'm not sure what you think vegetable farming is, but I can assure you it has little to do with the death of animals.

Really? You think animals don't get killed by vegetable farming? How about the animals that get killed by farming machines, or lose their homes, or get poisoned by pesticides, or shot by farmers protecting their crops, or the baby animals that die because their parents got killed in one of these ways?

ps: How many items made of leather do you own? Do you use glue, or eat gelatin-based foods?

TO EVERYONE - SHUT UP! You are just looking for a fight, and half of you are basing it off of incorrect information. I was just informing ONE person that they didn't actually need red meat in their diet to correct a misstatement they had typed. You have all blown this way out of proportion and you aren't thinking about anything properly. Just remember that for that burger, it took years of feeding that cow lots of food, and giving it lots of water, and giving that food it's eating lots of water. SO in the end, wouldn't it just make more sense to cut the middle cow out, and eat the corps that are already being grown directly? Millions of acres of farming land, and millions of gallons of water are used to make beef; the cows done;t just grow on their own. Read THIS since you all seem to not know anything about the subject. So, if you are going to pick a fight with a random stranger, you are just proving you are no better than me, and since you are clearly just basing this all off of the illusions in your head and are too stubborn to actually look into the subject, I am DONE talking with you all. So stop responding to a damn comment I wrote a long while ago to a completely different person. There are better things for you and I to be doing with our days. I'm not going to read or respond to any of your random ignorant comments anymore, so don't even bother to write anymore.

Most of us don't eat fox.

I mean like; we eat the meat, it'd be a shameto not use whatever possible; waste of reasources.
I'm certianly glad that we no longer have to use other animals' skins and such to keep ourselves warm, but I'm nowhere near deciding that what the world needs is an oturight ban (save for endangered species). Basically, I'm of the opinion is that whatever we can farm, it's ours...

Okies, yeh, think I'll do my intellectual spiel, stay tuned while I type it up...

I can't speak for the pelts above, but most furs and leathers do not come from what we use for meat. They are separate industries and anything not used for that particular industry goes to waste because life is cheap, apparently.

Thank you for making a very good point that everyone in defense of the fur industry conveniently forgets.

These furs look beautiful. I'm glad you are so close to your totem animal. Furs are just as humane as eating meat, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise =)
~Fir~

thank you hon!

I'm organizing a P.E.T.A. splinter group.
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals


Seriously, how did we, (people) become so distanced from seeing animals as food? I was wrist deep in a chicken this afternoon removing the organs and picking out the liver and heart so I could cook them later.
I see no problem with keeping the fur, use everything you can. That said I have a grudge against trophy hunters.


You want inhumanely killed, people? Take a tour of a chicken processing plant.

You eat fox?

As someone above pointed out, it's not "as humane as eating meat", the abuse of farmed animals aside--when was the last time you met someone who ate fox? I know that rabbit is common as a dish in some places, but I will bet dollars to donuts the rabbits skinned for trophies were not eaten.

Please do some research into the fur and leather industries.

Full disclosure, I am a vegetarian but only as of recently, and while I don't believe it's wrong to eat meat that was humanely kept and humanely killed, the vast majority of it is neither of the above; fur animals get an even harsher time of it.

i personally like that group as well ^^

XD I bet this opened a big ol' bag of angst, didn't it? *reads up above* Ayup, with mentions of P.E.T.A. to boot.

Did you see that anthrocon letter from PETA pleading to Fursuti wearers not to use actual fur? =P

Pardon my typos

I haven't seen angst yet but I've read plenty of stupid so far.

One name is as good as another.

COFFEEALLABLABBA

Sorry, but the foxes eyes made me lol.

I had to put those in... it just... I had them and like... this way its not HOLES in its head... ^_^ I wish I had the natural looking cat slit pupils

those are nice
fox and two rabbits or are thay someting else?

LET THE DRAMA BEGIN.

(on another note)

I've been trying to get my hands on a full fox pelt, but so far all the one's I've found are from... less than desirable sources. :/ *likes taxidermy, but will not support fur farms* I know if I just keep looking I can find a road-kill pelt like my coyote I have or an antique pelt! =P

well... I have a guy I can call... are you looking for a red fox or what kind? I'll ask him which ones he has left.

*perks* I've been wanting a red, actually. :)

lemme check with him later then ok?

Thanks Tangerine! I appreciate it! :D Just get back to me whenever it's convenient for yah.

MURDER!!!!!!!

Lolno! I don't care. Shit, I always wanted a kick-ass den with fireplace and a complete vultures skeleton on the mantle.

But, c'mon, you had to think some pair of clown shoes was gunna flip their shit.

Dude, me too... Like, with the unnecessarily large leather chair, and a little side table for your glass of bourbon?

XD fuck. Yes.

You gotta have the wall of books, too.

Now I'm sad, because it'll never happen. :c

I swear, if I ever win the lotto... And then I'll invite you over, and we shall sip bourbon in front of the fire as we wear monocles and speak in Old English!

Good luck with the reading in Old English. They used three letters that we don't have right now, and very inconsistent spelling.

an a unnecessary huge ass tiger throw rug!

Lovely pelts.

I know how soft rabbit fur is when the pelt is cured correctly. Do you have a purpose/plan/idea for them?
Those eyes got a double-take from me...

^^ Pretty... *has fox pelt too*

*skims a bit, completely dismissing all the obvious bullshit coming from the lunatic fringe* seriously, none of you guys give half the fuck about human trafficking, child-labor and sex-slavery that you do about animals. You guys are completely out of touch with the reality that your own God damn species is subject to, and that's why you're marginalized on the lunatic fringe.

Since there is no human trafficking in this post, how...do you know?

I mean, I'm active in a number of communities, groups and (gasp! RL, away from teh compooturz?!) protests dealing with the child sex industry in other nations, but that has nothing to do with this post and the suffering those animals were subject to before their completely unnecessary deaths.

This is a large part of why I don't "identify" as "furry". I don't want people thinking I support the slaughter of animals for trophies.

Beautiful furs, Tangerine. Perhaps not the best place to show them off, unless you are after the fur-fags/PETA-pussys outrageous reactions, in which case, you win. LOL

I have a kangaroo pelt somewhere. It was shot during the time they were culled cause numbers were getting to big. I also have a puppet made from brush-tail possum I got from New Zeland, where they are feral.

And all you BAWWWWers? If you lived in Australia, you'd appaud someone with fox and rabbit skins. Those feral bastards are destroying our land and our native wild life.

Cute

The extremist "omg" reaction was not nearly as "omg" as I expected. Maybe it's been scared away by the "omg lol" at the possible "omg"'s.
... I hope that made sense.

But yeah, as said by a few else here, the fox's eyes made me LOL.

Rigth! So then; Homo sapiens sapiens, goddamn bizzare creatures.
If there is some guiding force behind the existance of the various species; this one was the quintissential "What the fuck??"
Most other animals, when they see fire, or hear something strange, they go "Oh SHI--!"
When the first Hominid went "Wait, what the fuck is that?" and got [/i]closer[/i], said Force must have gone "Wait, what?"

In actuallity, I don't really put any stock in gods or whathaveyou, I go by evolution.
So; In natural Nature, because of all there is in the ecosystem, it's self-re-enfrocing to try to have some semblance of order, in spite of the fact that the natural tendancy of things is to entrophy.
For example, any one spiecies is normally kept in check by such things as what eats them, what they eat, when they're active, all sorts of things. If a population grows too large, their predators (I include virii, bacteria, and other pathogens in this; they "eat" our/other organism's meats to propigate their own processes).
To sum up: as species come and go, there are self-generating systems that happen to work for the overall benefit of the entire biosphere (and not any one species). I call it the Natural Order of Things.
And to me, (as I said, gods're not nececcary), the animals were not made into the Order (there's no inherent "intent" behind life, save for desire of it's own (species's) existance), but the Order developed around the animals, in tandem.

Then came along humans.... humanoids, anyways
At first, our ancestors were like any other species; we had food and we were food. There's austrolopithican skulls and such with "Pwned!" marks from huge freakin' bird-things, and many other things with big teefs.
If one looks, one may notice that all wild species runs from fire, but we like fire. Some of the species we make into pets don't mind fire, but I'll get to that.

That's probably where it all began for the Human race. We stopped, took a closer look, and said "Wait, what the fuck is that?"

Yeah, we probably stood up first, and started using tools after, but that was probably the first thing we did that no other species has done before or since. The Discovery of Fire, ignighted by the Spark of Curiosity. By inference, all our Science, Technology, and Culture, now spread out like a wildfire across the world, started with that little lick of flame at the end of a twig~~
Our myths and stories feel to have some kind of memory to this event; the opening of Pandora's Box, the cave-ape touching the Monolith in 2001: A Space Oddesey, "gifts from gods" myths; all metaphors to the start of something new and unique...

And the start of our escape from the Natural Order.

Because then, whe we had this technological edge over the other animals; they have so many natural gifts and skills, but then we made one for ourselves.
No longer fearing the dark, we had time to think. Our new toy held in fear by other animals, we were now all but invincible.
With any time availible to us, we had time to kill now. It was gonna be a few millenia before the Wii came out, so we played with rocks, doodled on the walls, and chucked some sticks. Playing, experimenting, eventually developing and modifying things, we now had weapons to hunt with and defend ourselves.
Alot fewer things could hunt us, and there were alot more thigns we could hunt.
More meat meant more protein.
More protien meant more Skill Points to put into our Int. Score. (plus, the pointy sticks did have a +2 against Wild creatures... +7 if Pointy Stick came with Sharp Rock Tip)
Predation, one of the systems that kept the other species from ebcoming too powerful (which pretty much translates into "superior numbers").

Fur (finally, a topic related to the piccie. ^^;;;) was realized to be quite nice and insulating, after we ate whoever. Where before, climate was another System that isolated animals, we now were removed from that restrictive system, too. So, we spread out, and fast. Cane-in-point with our own experience with introduced new species, there were no predators, or Systems that could really restrict us. Plus, with the pace we were going at, there was never going to be enough time for a system to develop around us.. except for the limitys on other species, which kept them from being too abundant, and thus, limited reasources for us.

So, we got to thinking (having some experience in it now), and we made agriculture. The System of limited food reasources was also overcome.
Generation after generation, we were thinking and making and planning ahead, and experimenting, faster and faster ---- there was no way in hell Nature was ever gonna catch up at this point.
Finally, science as we know it was made. Alot of the remaining systems that mgiht've stopped us are now also being eroded away; diseases that once slaughtered millions are now easly contained and fought. Speed and travel are now one of our domains.

We can leave the System entirely, leave Earth herself alltogether, if we really want to!

Hell, we've even started making some other animals separate from the Order with us! We bred dogs, cats, plants, some microorganisms, ect; they're now modifed on the Genetic level, because we wanted them that way (that there is the only actual thing even close to "Intelligent Design")(and in a few cases, in the prevailence of the Human Order-- which is not quite the Natural Order, a fw things left the Natural to evolve into our new Order).

Unfortunatley, the tale of Pandora's Box is quite fitting, because we cannot go back. If we did, it certianly wouldn't be a 360-reversal; with all directions possible, any given direction is possible, even extinction. The animals we've domesticated cannot go back either. As part of our system, they are 'incompatable' with the Natural Order. Since we farm them, that's kinda the fate of these new species we hath wrought. ("What hath God Wroght"?! We wrought the blasted things!).

Also, attempting to would destroy the Natural System; the diseases we fight have evolved to figth back harder, as well. And, if say, PETA had it's way; all those animals would be introduced, like the invasive species they would become, back into the very Nature they think they comprehend. Animals--- well, I should say "Organisms." Every drug-resistant strain, every hybrid species of the Human Order would decimate the Natural Order.

So, with farmed animals like these would be; can't put them back. Like the "rest of" our technology, we made them to use. And to waste any of them is to degrade our very creations, and the lives and species we took into our own hands. Any less would be irresponsible.

Very well thought out and articulated. The only thing I don't entirely agree with is your ending point. It's true we couldn't return farmed animals to the wild without them just becoming dinner for something else we could stop breeding the animals, using up the remaining ones for necessary purposes and that be the end of it.

Now I don't really want to argue or cause drama like some people. I just wanted to point this out in response.

S'alright.
Yeah, we could just stop it, but the likelihood we weill stop using any animal at all is pretty slim.
At the very least, we might one day breed Space Cows for the milk.

Also, I think I forgot to end a few paragraphs properly; the sentence kinda ends in the middle of a complete thought. ^^;;

Yeah I don't think we'll ever stop using them either. We should just be respectful as possible when we do use them.

*smiles* yeah I was kinda wondering if it was cut a bit short

I clicked this just to see the reactions, haha. <3

Wow...I've never seen so many people get so up in arms over something so...well, trivial. Nice furs though I'm not much for rabbit furs the fox fur is beautiful though.

That is an amazing fox pelt.
I envy you.
One day I shall has one.

A lady at the LARP I go to,
Has a fox pelt.. though he's not as beautiful at yours.. his tail is.. uhm.. small and not fluffy..
There are however two Mink like pelts I'm interested it..

Why are you guys still going with this? It keeps spamming my inbox. I was upset, I was mad, and now im over it, ok? I'm sorry and now I regret doing whatever it is that started this thing. Just expressing my opinion that furs killing or buying animal pelts is weird. There, good day now. It's over.

Woah.... Torrents and deluges of drama. I never got this much from my taxidermy pieces.
(As a sidenote, rabbits are routinely eaten, and I know a couple people who know how to cook fox, though even they admit it tastes nasty. But they choke it down anyway, as part of the use-everything ethos. Also, did you know most Western fur farms supply meat to the pet food and fertiliser industries? Morbidly interesting sidenote.)
Does the fox have a name yet? I sense the coming urge for me to draw weirdcreepyadorable fanart of this fox and my Pi.

I know... I have one started in my head....

(you and me)
YAAAY PLAY DATE

(my fox and your Pi)
...

(you and me)
O_o o_O

(you and me)
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

Very lovely furs--I remember how much of a challenge it was to skin a coyote (it had been hit on the highway, and had perished, obviously). These are three absolutely lovely pelts, hon. Don't let the b'aaaaawers and whiners get to you.

If I had the space/time/resources, I'd have a skinning/tanning or taxidermy shop as a side-line to my life. Being able to preserve a perfect pelt or hide is a true work of art, and these are very well done.

oh man we should totally find someone to teach us or get Damien up from Aussieland...

I would totally teach for free just for the opportunity to work on American animals. Stupid faraway Oz-land ;_;

If you go to a camp called "Becoming an Outdoors Woman", they sometimes offer hunting/skinning/tanning classes where they teach you not only how to lay traps, but also how to skin the animal. One year they even showed us (via powerpoint) the process of tanning a hide.

http://www.uwsp.edu/CNR/bow/

so totally cool

I LOVE it :D I'm hoping to do it again sometime...And you totally should go to one :D They're so much fun :D

Nice fox pelt, and the rabbits look good.I have no problem with hunting and the results, as long as you use all the animal parts and dont kill the young.

Im actually going to see if my uncle will give me a deer or wild hog skull to hang on my wall, and to have >.>

Last of my fox... needs... is a skull.

Has. But no teeth. Have you tried asking around Fur Hide And Bone on LJ? They'd be able to help you.

Is that a community on LJ for furs and bones?
I'd love to join that

Certainly is! And very nice people.
http://community.livejournal.com/fu.....ndbone/profile
Go nuts, and good luck!

Thanks so much!

Y'can make one out of cardboard, since you'll be doing that dowel thing; it may actually work out best (a real skull might be hard to affix, especially if you plan to hang it or something).
Like on this one of mine; http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1166554/ ; the head is just one box, still in one peice (just cut kinda creatively and glued back together...

..... I, uhh, don't remember precisely how I got it to fit together so well from what's technically just 1 peice of cardboard! ^^;;;

Absolutely lovely. If I ever decide to get fur I'll probably see who you know. My parents have some rabbit fur they're planning to use to make something.

Ireland blanket for the win Erin go bragh!

Irish by marriage, Heinz 57 by birth. So I've accepted that as a big part of my heritage

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First one failed

regular link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_8Ko-9uKRs

warning to other people, you may not want to watch this link if it you have a very weak constitution.

Its nice to warn people before you send links like this. Thank you for your imput but its not needed here.

Yeah that kinda ruined my day D:

Asshole.

Mmm, delicious.

oh dear lord, you guys see one chinese fur farm and assume all the furs in the whole damn world were produced there. what about all the humane places? what about the hunters that skin their catches and sell the skins? friggn shock tactics is all that is you sick S.O.B.

oh wow, I have to say these are very excellent looking furs. they look so soft.

and I'm sorry but I have to say the fox looks all googly eye'd X3

yeah we replaced with smaller eyes and I'll post pictures after I have them hung up

cool, can't wait to see them ^^

Is that fake or real fur? Please tell me it's fake...

its real.

Okay... And right now you had a free fall in my respect ranking...

a free fall eh? I do enjoy the fact that you can't be friends with someone who owns furs. I dont own them to wear. I dont have multiple furs made into a coat that I only wear once or twice in my life. I have rabbit furs from a leather company I trust that will be made into things I can use or sell to others, and a fox fur that goes with my religious and personal beliefs, to help focus and concentrate.

But if we can't be friends because I own furs... see if your shoes are made of leather, if your car seats are made of leather, any of your chairs or wallets are made of leather. See if your socks are made of wool. Then tell me we can't be friends because I own hides.

I see logic in your words, honestly. but however... My shoes are not real leather (can't effort them and won't wear them) Wool. The animals don#t get killed for it... And well... I once beat a person who owed fur of an animal killed for that... Maybe I can be over that in a while but not now.. I just thought as you told me you are a wiccan who respects earth you won't buy something like that...

I am not wiccan, I am an eclectic witch. There is a difference. Not every Witch is a Wiccan, but every Wiccan is a Witch. I do respect the earth. I respect animals. The fox is my totem and as such, thats why I bought the fur. That way its not taken to somewhere where its turned into something stupid like a stole or a jacket. I did not kill the fox myself. I did not skin it myself. If I had found it on the side of the road, hit by a car, I would have in order to respect it and have a path between myself and the fox, providing its body with a better life than its death.

What youre saying is similar to me telling you you can't have a crucifix in your house because I dont like the wood or metal its made out of.

I am Atheist ... you know. So no crucifix for me. But I want to plead you to think one thing over: If dozends of million people would be ecletic witches... What would happen to animals? If anyone has a totem that would quickly extinct some species...

And even hit by a car I won't take it... You also don't wear the skin of your family member...

Not everyone believes in the same way I do. Eclectic means you have pieces from other sides. I work with herbs. I work with animals and animal spirits.

The crucifix was an example.

And most everyone has a totem. Just look at the fandom. Why do you pick Kumbartha as a lion and not some sort of other creature? Why are most of your animals lions and hyenas? Is it just because of TLK or is it some other reason? You do things in your pictures that would not have ever been done in TLK so its not the same...

If you wish to discuss this more with me, I would rather do it on messanger than on here.

If you like so.. ^^

Tabitha, you knew this was going to spark drama... *omnomnomnom*

NUUUU!!! MAH FURRRRZZZZZZZZ! And PLEASE don't call me that on here.

Ok, how should I call you then?

Tangerine, Tangie, you know, like my handle on here. Like most everyone else calls me

One of my friends has an old Fox pelt, it's so fun to play with! It's still in it's tube-like form, like how I think yours is, and (as disturbing as it is) it makes a wonderful puppet! But the ears, limbs, and tail have long been ripped off from her dog or her, so it was literally just a tube of fur with a mouth. And rabbit fur is soooo soft. I've wanted to buy an otter pelt, but I'd feel rather guilty about the poor creature being dead in my house then off swimming in a river. So until I come across the fur tanner who lets the animals die naturally, I'm trying to keep my leather/fur consumption to a minimum :3 (I'm going up north in a few days, and there is a store that I know sells everything from fur to cougar sculls, and I will be tempted)

oh man what part of "Up north"

Northern Minnesota... About as north as you can get. A little far from where you are unfortunately.

Minnesota isn't that north...oh wait...yes we are xD
~Fir~

Heehee, yay for MN breaking the 48 degree latitude border!

wow thay look so beautiful. Can't wait to see them when i get home.

if I could get you something you like I would...

well you have got me little things that I know I will like. I love you so much.

Its a little more complicated than that. The skull will not be afixed to anything it will be sitting independant...

If foxes were the dominant species of this planet, they would probably farm us and use us for meat and god knows what else, so i have no problem with this pic.

*nods*

This is the most awesome way to sum this up I've ever read. Go you!

spank you kindly

Very lovely pelts, Tangie. ^_^ Er... Are those stuffed toy eyes you used in there? *laughs*

One of the bead shops I go to often has rabbits pelts and other things, including deer/raccoon/heads of something (I forget what), but then, they also supply leather working materials, so~. Kinda makes sense for them to sell those. If I remember right, they said it's mostly from roadkill. I'm still trying to think of something I could make using the little antlers they have. Haven't bought any antlers yet, though (we're talking like, 3-point and smaller, mostly), since I cannot think of anything other than wrapping them with beads to make decorations.

I have a polished antler on a leather strap... I need to find it... I'd like to show it to you sometime...

Wow, I read a majority of the replies and all I have to say is BOO HOO :(
Oh well, nice furs there Tangerine, The fox's fake eyes made me laugh, and yeah..

Furs can come from animals that die from natural causes, too. So this doesn't bother me. The acts themselves bother me and not knowing where these come from don't effect me the slightest.

Furs don't come from animals that die of natural causes...I think some people on here need to be realistic and read about how the fur industry works.

So, by all means, furs can never come from animals that die of natural causes, what so ever?

Your being really childish and unrealistic if you think that's where these came from. Yes, some furs do come from animals that die of natural causes. But these furs obviously were purchased and not from someone who harvested said animals off of a highway, scavenged fur does not look as nice as these. Sorry to be realistic about this. And no I'm not complaining about her having fur, I'm just stating a fact because I hate seeing people that try to sugar coat things to make things ok in thier minds.

You sure are anal about my opinion. Take it easy.

I say that someone who wears a fursuit to a con next time should walk around wearing human skin XD
of course FAKE human skin
I just think that would be hilarious ^w^

A friend of my family's cuts the tails off of roadkill, only if the tail is intact, but he gets pretty good monies for it =3
Then he removes the leftovers so it doesn't cause accidents.
I find it funny how I see deer on the side of the road with spray painted X's on them so the police can remove them, when they get around to it and after they've had their fill of donuts =P

D:

Omg! Drama! Wow! Lovely furs, sweety. I'm so proud of you for treating them with respect. Given, you didn't kill them, but they were already dead anyway. At least they went to someone who would honor them properly. Myself, I have a bunny fur I've had since I was five years old. It was a comfort to me in times of need, and I've always loved and respected it as best I could for my age. It's followed me through many transitional periods in my life. That bunny, were she still alive, would have been the happiest bunny in the world for how much I've hugged her remains of this earth. Go you, love the fox pelt. Glad you're doing right by it.

These are beautiful furs, especially that fox, but LOL at the eyes :P
I've got a rabbit fur, a fox tail, and a bunch of skulls (coyote, bobcat, wolf, deer, bull, and crocodile).
My boyfriend currently has a fox roadkill in his freezer that I'm dying to skin and play around with tanning.

ONCE I SAW THIS SHOW WHERE THEY HAD THE SKIN OF A HUMAN TANNED OUT...


Because he had a BITCHIN tattoo before he died of cancer.




Nice drama pit :D!

PS Furz r soft :o

Lol at the comments bitching about the hides.

They look lovely and very soft c:

Posting a picture like this on FA, I really hope you were expecting that furfag baaaaw shitstorm. :D

Anyway, those are pretty. I want to get a fox one sometime. >_>

What is people's problems with fur?
I wouldn't ever buy a fur from source, because it would be funding an industry I view as evil. I do not agree with killing animals just for fur, or hunting for sport. But I have a fair few tails, bones and animal bits that I got from people who had no room for them so sold them off cheap, or that were found naturally. And its this kind of thing that prevents me ever showing anyone, because you just know a bunch of hypocrites are going to jump to conclusions and start whining about the poor foxes, while wearing their leather shoes, buying their cheap ass unethical meats, putting rat poison down in their gardens and doing any other number of things that cause animal suffering.

Not everyone who owns furs has supported the industry or killed the animal themselves. I've got several fox skulls and parts just from finding them dead around here. Dead foxes are rife in norfolk.

Oh ziggy, you have put a smile on my face like no ones business.. You mean Norfolk Virginia yes? Thats where I'll be moving to in November. Which means a) I'll wanna meet up with you if you don't mind and b) I will pay you for a good complete fox skull

Alas, I mean Norfolk, england :( Much less exciting!

and many tears are being shed.. suuuuuck

fox pelt at the renne faire, rabbits at Hobby Lobby

I love the Fox pelt. It's beautiful! If you don't mind me asking, How much was it? And where did you get it? <3

over $100 (I actually threw more money at the guy to make sure I got the one I wanted and because his car died and I wanted to help out) and at the renne faire

Oh sweet :] Thank you!

It's nice to see some furries still hold to the tradition of funding the brutal and slow killing of innocent animals for their own personal vanity. Go you.

Uh huh... got anything made of leather or suede?

how would you know if this was brutal or slow to begin with?

Apparently, having a random, blurry picture of some ugly, fat man in a gimp suit is fine, but putting a clean picture of pelts makes furries RAAAAAAEG.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with these self-righteous people trying to shove their opinions down your throat. They're lovely and if you want to collect pelts, I'm sure you have a good reason for using them. Good luck to ya.

I have gone through all of this drama an it makes me sigh an shake my head in utter... embarrassment for all the PETA pussy eaters an the crazy "you're diet is fail because i say so" speeches 9_9;; I wanted to say something personally but knew that I was on the wrong account to do it, and well... I am tired of throwing myself into an argument that many people have made betters points with an I'd only succeed in exposing myself as just another person that loves her red meat ^__^

On a more... understandable note that I can say as the Military Furs group is this... there may come a day when we will have to once again rely on our skills to hunt an clean and eat and live off of the land and not off of our own egotistical creations.
So many... too many of us are used to just walking down the street an buying food out of our shops, when really... I think it's GREAT when so many people keep up the tradition of hunting an then teaching their children, how to skin how to prepare how to do things the old fashion way.... because in the end... EVERYONE, even those PETA freaks an those vegan tree huggers, the good an the bad will look to those that know how to survive off of the land for help an aid in surviving.

On a quick personal note, the skins look great, I myself have a fox tail that I bought from a man that is legally able to sell them and swears that all of the pelts he sells is either from passed animals that died of old age or animals that were on the bring of death an so he pretty much did them a favor an made it painlessly an quickly. I posted a picture of it once and I got a little bit of flaming for it, but I mostly ignored it since really I didn't care about their opinion on what kind of person they thought I was, but alot of people were right in the sense that it's not the best idea to post pictures of our pelts or tails on a furries site 9_9;;

Keep it up an you should definitely look into getting practice with preparing animals or hunting them to some extent, you never know when it'll come in handy!

side note:
*chuckles at the foxy eyes*

nice fox pelt! i just got an antique black russian pelt as a gift.