There are many artists in here that have focused so much on being good at drawing antrhropomorphic characters that they will often say that they will not draw humans because they aren't good at them. That has led me to just kind of accept that furry artists will just not draw humans, BUT THEN WE HAVE YOU, drawing your chubby kitty boy as a chubby human boy because hey why not. I love this. Well done.

By the way I finally saw your ad. I love how you just put Jameel lazily laying in there with his pink undies hahaha

Haha! You love it <3 It's kinda the other way around with me, I think? Okay, I started out as someone who exclusively drew animals back when I was a kid. And around 10 or 12 I was introduced to manga and since than I was mainly active on sites and around people who, if anything, drew manga as well. So humans it was. And I had to learn that first! (Because nearly no one I met was interested in animals at all. Plus, Furry was one of those no-goes on those manga sites for some reason.) And learning how to draw humans was hard, but over time became that I liked best.
Anyway, when I decided to come here and came up with Jameel, it took me a bit but I got back into drawing more animal features pretty quickly. It felt (and feels) pretty familiar and now I enjoy both, I think. I'd definitely miss drawing paws, big ears and muzzles if I went back to drawing humans exclusively.

Hah, I feel like after christmas the pool of ads has shrunken so drastically that I've seen my own like a hundred times since then (and very little before).

Goodness, you even draw chubby humans nicely!

TIME FOR YOU TO COMMISSION ME IRL AS A FATTY >:U

Hahahaha, yeah that's an idea, why not!? And thanks! :^)

Is it Jameel's Humansona then? Skinsona?

Skinsona isn't bad, but Jameel has skin either way, it's just hidden underneath the fur. And in that case, what about Sphynx Cats? Or a shark, can it be a fursona ...? And what about hairy people? Is Marıyan his own fursona? Can a furry become a non-fur after visiting a waxing studio??

Nakedsona. Nudesona? Hm. Baldsona! Peoplesona. Persona. Personsona? Anthrosona? I think go for Humansona after all.

Persosona!

Person, persona,
Furson, fursona.

Jameel’s persona is human, because fursona was based on the atrocious furson-based pun. In the end, if you finally come to admit that anthros are people as well, fursonas are still just personas.

Also, what ethnicity is Jameel?

I thought fursona was a portmanteau word of furry + persona, so persona on its own would be kinda pointless, huh?

Oh and do you mean me personally or was that a general you? Because I wouldn't argue that anthros are people or persons as well. (The world I imagine for my characters is more or less like ours, but with Furries/Anthros instead of humans. As if all kinds of animals developed in a human-like way, so they see themselves and each other as people. I know that you shared a bit of your worldbuilding in another comment and I'm interested to hear more, I just didn't came around to answer that yet, sorry!)

He's arab, from Morocco, to be precise.

General "you".


There are numerous reasons why I don't like to go off of the hypothetical approach of all animals developing in a human-like way at least to give the same result as would be ideomatic in the fandom:

1. The probability of numerous animals developing the same exact trait independently as a result of natural selection decreases drastically with each number of species you would want to include, and they would all come from intermediary steps in evolution, which is a statistical impossibility based on population dynamics and biological equilibrium. I know that humans (not just homo sapiens) managed five separate origins, which I say because I don't personally believe in the out-of-Africa theory for a number of other reasons, but that's another discussion.

2. Most furries imagine a furry world where everyone is their own "furry persona" resulting in a widely diverse population, which if you don't account for the impossibility of interbreeding and lack of potential hybrids, is to me impossible due to it being so detrimental to social cohesion the populations would likely be anti-social/violent (which is what is going on with multiculti in modern times).

Other reasons are a spectrum between reason 1. and reason 2. expanding on what I mean exactly by this.


Oh, also you say Jameel is Arab, but the overwhelming majority of Moroccans are Berber. Would he be an Arab immigrant into Morocco then? :3

Hm, I see and I also think that such an evolution doesn't make much sense, but I personally don't have a problem with overlooking that fact. I don't see my characters/story/whatever ever going into the detail what happened millions of years ago - so I probably don't run into any problems there. (Which doesn't mean that I don't find it interesting to speculate about that.)

I'm more interested in the world's current society, so your second point is more of a tough nut for my worldbuilding! Mainly, can different species have kids together, no matter what? And if so, what do the kids look like? Mixtures? Or a random purebreed? Or does it work completely different and a donkey and a dog can produce a cat or something?
(From a design standpoint and personal taste, I don't like fantasy-like mixed creatures thaaat much. Plus, most of the population would already be a mix of some sort.) :^/ I have to think about that some more.


Hmmm, there are a lot of Berbers, but Arab is another large group, so it's not so unlikely. But honestly, I don't know yet. What I know is that his family lives in a city (haven't decided where exactly), and that they are not soo traditional. Jameel himself doesn't live there anymore, he likes to see the world and lives in Germany at the moment, where he meets my other characters.

Honestly mostly abominations that will never see the light of day even in the womb, is the most likely scenario.

If you knew how much I like guro stuff at times and how many times I've drawn embryos ... you're putting ideas in my head, vulps! xD

Am always looking for an artist that can accurately draw the insides of corpses etc, if you would want to do that.

Sounds definitely interesting! ... for the future (I want to get a looot of things done next month that aren't commissions.)

i love seeing furry characters as humans! and what a handsome human he makes
you always impress me with each upload, its always a treat

and i'm glad you took time for yourself, burnout sucks really hard. plus, when else would we get to draw for ourselves?

Aww, thank you so much! I'm trying to make this a permanent thing and always take at least a day per week off in the future (because I'm bad at that, somehow, hah).

oh yeah, I am really bad at it too. At times when I'm supposed to be taking a break I just end up gravitating back towards my work though because of boredom or anxiety over finishing. But the times when I can just let myself have a day or two a week to myself makes all the difference though.

Hopefully we can both start sticking to taking days off!

Yeaaah, exactly. I hope so, too, because I personally enjoy to see other's private work a whole lot. (And I prosponed my own plans more and more into the future, and hopefully get to them in February, finally.)

Such a handsome babbu <3 I lub him, both as a human and kitter <3

Thank you!! I should upload my latest sketch here, because he has changed a bit since then. :^)