Lucifer was an angel, and angels are described physically as having six wings that cover the entirety of their bodies (seraphim), being wheels within wheels with rims covered in eyes (thrones), or having four faces: one of a cherub, one of a man, one of a lion, and one of an eagle (cherubim). So while a bastardization of a satyr or Baphomet isn't accurate, there's more than one possible answer

My favourite is that some guys started doing a fantasy version of the exact same stories, with names changed, and Christian book review sites said they are too violent and sexist. :3
By the by, I think the stories are actually fine if not taken literally. Myths are pretty interesting, especially if one knows their origins...

You know, reading the Bible cover-to-cover not only made Penn Jilette an athiest, but Julia Sweeney too, in similar circumstances (they were both in Bible study classes). Julia Sweeney had a fantastic little movie out called Letting Go of God which if you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend. Anyone with a logical brain that actually reads the Bible cover-to-cover would really not see Jehovah as a person to be followed given all the crazy shit that goes down not only in the Old Testament but the New, and Sweeney points out the many off-kilter things Jesus does as well, like telling his disciples to abandon their friends and family and follow him only (which you know, cult leaders do), and wilting a fig tree just because it didn't have a fig available for him.

You and I have shared views on this many times, and I strongly believe that it's not what you believe that's truly important. It's what you do, how you treat others, the mark you make on their lives and this world that's crucial to our existence. Granted there are a lot of interesting lessons to be learned by the Bible, some good things to take away from it. But to consider any singular source of information or lore as a "rulebook" by which all people have to adhere is just ludicrous. Bad human traits, fear, hatred, ignorance, laziness, apathy, THESE are what make for bad religion and lifestyles. I don't care what anyone says about you being a Satanist, blasphemer, or heathen. When you and your family offered to send me money to pay a locksmith to open my car that I oafishly locked myself out of while dealing with all the tragedy going on and adapting to a new job while living away from home for a week, THAT cemented a place in my heart for you, and there's nothing I wouldn't do for each and everyone of you after showing me such kindness. You are wonderful people, and I hope you get all that you desire and makes you happy. In conclusion, I have a short poem I scrabbled together while at work. I suppose you could say it's my own personal spiritual pledge.

My faith lies in liberty,
My temple is the mortal heart,
My god is love and happiness,
And I shall guard them till I depart.

realization I had myself recently... As the story was told to me way back... Lucifer, or whatever name/title is given to him... was indeed among the Father's most favored. So he screwed up because he was jealous of mankind, doesn't mean he is an all around bad guy... and people who act like raging Pharisaic assholes only prove him right about us.

or at least, whatever stupid sense that makes...it makes sense in my head XD I've been getting preachy and prophetic lately... IN ANY CASE, Thanks for sharing, love your commentary as always

Thinking is hard, parroting is easier. Especially when one parrots a so-called 'authority figure'. Work for religions as well as for everything else.

I was raised in the church since birth,southern baptist to be exact.... I was very devoted to it for the longest time,cared a lot about the church,people in it,and I did my very best to be what I was "quoted" bible wise. But as I grew older it all began to seem so... jaded. They never came up with something new to say,it was always the same thing I had heard for years and years spewed at me. Which confounded me-since I had seen just how large the bible truly was. How was there not more to tell us? I'd say I was about 9 when I started to lose interest practically altogether,I wouldn't go to sunday school anymore,sing along to the songs,and so on. Instead I'd wander the church,or go hang out with my grandmother to take care of the baby's in the nursery.

The point behind this is,I started to actually read the bible when I was 9-10. As in,on my own. Probably not the best idea for such a young child... but it happened. To say that by the time I finished it completely about a year or so later (don't judge I was still young...) that I was mortified,would be an understatement... There was so many horrid and horrible things that I read. Disgusting,hurtful,torturous,in-human things that this "god" had done. I realize that if you're of a higher power you have to make tough decisions,but why be so cruel? Especially to the things you supposedly love and care about? *Sighs* But none the less I stood by my family,I didn't step away from it all completely just yet. I just knew more is all..

But it was when my grandmother started to get sick from cancer that things started to go downhill for me. This woman was the most kind,generous,soft natured soul I have ever known in my whole life. She had dedicated her life to Christianity,to God,and Jesus-everything surrounding the faith. She'd give the shirt off her back to a total stranger,pretty much raised me. Sure she was a human and flawed like anyone,but her overall humanity was her saving grace,not her downfall. Everyone kept saying that god would save her,that he'd heal her,all we had to do is keep praying. I saw this woman turn from a spry elderly woman,who was always happy,and just generally amazing to everyone and everything-slowly change to a frail and sad older person... It broke my heart... This person who had never done anything but good for anyone was being punished and tormented.. But why? Why was she to suffer,and why was I made to suffer by watching it happen? She was the only person in the world that I had,the only one that even cared about me-and her life was being ripped away slowly and horridly.

By the time she was reaching her end she'd simply become a shell of a human. She was only about 80 pounds,a tube in her throat,in her belly,on oxygen,a tube to remove spit so she wouldn't drown,no hair left practically,you could see every bone... She could no longer talk,couldn't eat/bathe/use the bathroom by herself. I was only 11 years old and it literally broke my heart into a million pieces. The god that she had so loved,that everyone had said would save and protect her had done nothing. It was at this point that the writings in the bible became prominent in my mind,how cruel and unjust he was-and after she passed away I determined that if their was a God (The christian god in particular) then he was not something to be worshipped,or praised. He let so much cruelty and horridness continue and happen,and yes as humans we have a part to play. But all the same I just couldn't understand how a religion that is literally scattered all over the globe,with billions of followers how these.. things could keep happening? How the people who hurt the most others,and are the most cruel could continue to be free,and prosper-while people like my grandmother who cared so much,had so little,could be torn apart and everything taken from them.

So at 11 years old I became pagan,and it took me two years to find the path I wished to follow. It became obvious to me at a young age how backwards christians seem to be,sure not all of them are,I've met many along my path that care for everyone how they should. Are amazing people. But sadly the general populace of this religion,is not.

*Shrugs* Being a Luciferian has always got me looks,since most of course think of Lucifer as this horrid looking beast. When his name actually means "bearer of light" or "morning star"-on top of that of course as you quoted in your art piece it says in the bible that he was the most beautiful and perfect of all of his creations. Just because he/she fell you think they're ugly or some abomination now? This is not how things work people.... But eh,try convincing christians of that is like trying to teach a fish to walk. In fact I think you might have more luck with the fish...

And angels don't look like graceful winged humanoids. /s

Yup.

Fun fact: I was raised Catholic, and for my confirmation, the day you say "yes, I understand and believe all this and wish to join the church", I was given as a gift, a bible. I'd never actually read the book. I had a children's picture bible, and it was that book my faith was based on. Wanting to be the best Christian I could be, I read the whole thing, once, cover-to-cover. By the end of it, I was an atheist.

If the Devil appeared as a horrible monster with horns, nobody would be tempted by him. Ironically, most Christians would be easily tempted by the real devil. People forget that he's A. a fallen angel, and B. the angels of the Bible seemed like normal people, unless they used their powers. Sephiroth, the "One-Winged Angel" of FFVII, is probably the closest thing to what the actual Devil would be like.

And yet another fun fact-

While I have never actually seen you, nor have we ever met in a face-to-face fashion, I find you to be appallingly sexy for thoughts and the expression of such just like this.

For your candor, quality and character, my hat is off to you, my good sir. *bows, smiling broadly*

Thank you very much. *smiles back*

...sexy you say? Hrm, did I ever mention I've thought I'd like to meet you face-to-face, someday? I don't know about finding thoughts sexy, but, I like the way your wicked imagination works, the cyborg-wolf dream boys you crush on, the kinks you've drawn, which, is probably a more solid foundation than "is this a pretty face?"

Trying to think of something equally nice to say in return... I always find myself looking forward to the comics you draw and the journals you post. You're thought-provoking, and funny, and you put out the kindest words whenever a kind word is needed.