we have
comet - full bird/ oldest
Armillaria mellea (armill) full lurker/ middle bab
vail- lurker/chiller hybred/ babbest of the babs

these pups are tomikos and burnards! as they cant have pups together biologically each was born with a doner, deri lives with them and is seen as a much loved uncle, so much so that hes the doner for vail!

comet-
although the oldest hes...the weakest and not just psychically, also he does have a weak lower half (due to tomiko being very sick wile pregnant and almost losing him) hes weak willed, as a bird its expected by other that hed have issues with lurkers or vice versa, now this just isnt true but is a stereotype he was tricked into, as pups his friends would point out his 'weird' sister and dad to him and hed let it get to him, he slowly distended himself from his sister and tried to cling to his brother, but still managed to remained very close to his dad even now, it all came to a head when, as a young adult, his friends wanted to taunting armill thinking shed be weak, only to have her give up tring to be nice and just full out brawling back and leaving them all very shaken, tomiko and burnard had tried so hard but by this point tom gave up, she threw him out.

he bounced around for a wile now ending up with more people with the 'lurkers are bad' mentality but he no longer believed it, he was too ashamed to return home even after a few years, however after one day where he and another tried to get a tattoo a very big change happened, he met pip who, at the time, had also made mitakes leading to him being thrown out and a lurker called bray, their meeting and the relationship they formed was explosive from both sided but it did end with comet being able to return home and try to make amends, even if it wasnt optional

trivial-
can fly amazingly well even for a zecon
always has miss mached horn shapes
without his braces his feet will knuckle over
ever since he was young he looked up to his dad

Armillaria mellea-
she like that her full name is fancy as hell but hardly anyone can say it! so armill will have to do.
as a pup she really looked up to her brother, even when she learnt to walk faster and better then he could, even when she could move better then him, even whe she was the one whod get the snacks from the side comet just seamed so amazing to her, shed follow him everywhere and would copy a lot of what he did so when they started to hit their pre teens age him getting distant hurt her, she was told it was just coz he was getting older, that he still loved her, but he never defended her when people where mean or called her names for the longest time she just didnt understand, even when their parents explained the lie about birds and lurkers she still didnt understand, why would comet believe a lie? they are brother and sister why didnt he like her anymore? it was hard but in time it all clicked, she would still try to be nice to him but no longer looked to him and at first his attempts at being a good brother to their newest family vail pissed her off, although that didnt last, even as a pup vail knew armill was good and he even latched onto her! shes rub that in his face any chance she got which was easy seeing how the two of them ended upsetting along really well anyway, she finally had a brother to play with and annoy but hed still love her, he was the best brother shed ever have.
armil and vail are very close but she cant keep anything to herself, the second he teller her anything mom and dad will know, they some times 'play a game' where hell hide stuff and she 'has to go find it', even as adults she keeps this up, then again burnard and tomiko dont need to know about their 25ish pup talking to his bank anymore armill!
shes still bitter about comet and although doent want to see him hurt donest feel like shell ever forgive him.

trivial
she shares her moms love for space and will always beg her to take her flying, armills wings are too small to fly on her own but with help she can glide.
she has very potent venom! she can cause anyone she bites to have muscle spasms and incapacitate them, its not permanent and after three hours whoever shes bitten will recover fully
shes a pretty good dancer and teaches meany different types.

vail-
vails a sweet kid but his personality greatly contradicts what people might think about him.
chiilers are kind, friendly and will go out of their way to trust you
lurkers are suspicious, will mislead you, and their trust may never be fully gained
so at a first glance vails polite attitude will lead people to believe he can be trusted or that he cares and well....he doesnt, theirs very few people he genuinely cares about and if trouble is heading his way, hell avoid it,dont get him wrong though, if you do make his list of loved ones youll have some one wholl protect you...allbe it aggressively.
hes not close with comet even though he knows how badly comet wanted to be, he always felt his (or his 'friends') whining about lurkers was hypocritical and meaningless, but he humored them for a wile but by 12 he just stuck with armill.
in fact mush like her he doesnt know if hell every fully accent comets apology, he does at lest try to be civil with him though.

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although deri is is bio dad nether of them wanna him to be 'dad' so everyone just calls him 'uncal'
vail was born with burnards broad shoulders and he HATES them, he wasnts to be cute and small
his extra fur is kinds weiry and thin
he has venom! although weak itll cause people to brake out in a rash
he wants to be a metal smither like his uncle deryl
has big feet from deri