Rich and I are going to do a C&S story where we visit the C&S universe. At one point, Carc was going to grab me by the shirtfront and demand to know why was I messing with him. I remind him that if he harms or kills me he'll cease to exist.

How about poor Hardiman? How many times have Lori, Natasha and Onyx beat him up?

The closer fantasy is to reality, the closer a reader/viewer can relate to the fantasy.

As a furry writer, I can certainly relate to this.

Any writer of fantasy basically 'creates' their world in their mind and then attempts to 'describe' that world, it's inhabitants, it's environment and such to readers in the form of their words.

This is a very good commentary on us 'creators' here.

This is true, but what do you say about music creation?

As one who writes, I agree fully to all that you share here. It holds much truth and I appreciate the efforts in sharing it with others. I think others should give it a view sometime as well.

Thanks for sharing.

Perhaps characters cannot directly harm a creator, but they do have much influence on the minds and hearts of those in the real world.

Many creators suggest that they are not in full control of characters and their worlds. Or maybe this is just a product of their unwillingness to use the power indiscriminately.

How true!

D.O.P.R

Next can you please explain the icelandic "delicacy" that is Hakarl lol

Is that this rotten fish stuff?

aledgedly with pee

Sounds tasty, like elk head pie....

I think you should go to a doctor, you have god-comlex

Yes you should post more!
So would you say a character, say Superman (or as I call im Stupidman) is TOO powerful or is it relative to thier world and the opposition being of equal capability?

Hmm, I'd like to address this too, if I may.

I have been playing a character with nigh-unbeatable power for years, and let me tell you, it's more of a challenge than it sounds. First of all, as you rightly point out, if all a superpowered character does is trounce all their opposition without breaking a sweat, that gets boring pretty fast. I've had over 15 years now to refine my character, and it's gotten to the point where the general consensus of most people is "yeah, he's probably overpowered, but I like him anyway."

One of the good things you can do with a superpowered character is give them flaws - but not incredibly overt ones. Hawkye has superhuman powers, but underneath it all, he's still human (or dragon, depending on what form he happens to be in at the time), with all the emotions and shortcomings thereof. He has a "normal" capacity for memory and thought, so he relies on a computer on his wrist for those particular shortcomings. This device, called the Dimensional-Temporal Device (DTD) houses a Fully-Independant Sentient Artificial Intelligence (FISAI), who Hawkye usually referrs to as "Deety." She's got a bit of a sarcastic streak, and isn't afraid to talk back to Hawkye, often to humorous effect.

That's enough rambling outta me for now, but it goes to show it CAN work.

Exactly. One of the things I have had issues with is one of my characters is an otherworld equivelant of an FBI agent, is a world champion boxer and all around athlete, and has some magic ability. They say she's TOO perfect.
But nobody bats an eyelash at my 7' 4" cybernetic undead badass who bench presses 4 tons and if you kill him keeps coming back (He can also borrow life energy from surrounding plants and insects to temporarily reunite the souls with their bodies for a temporary personal army. Apparently he's not too powerful.

Odd, isn't it?

A lot of people accept Hawkye because he acts like he's just another guy unless the situation warrants otherwise. You can't really say that about a ridiculously tall...undead...cyborg. No matter what, he's going to stand out. And yet he's accepted over the martial artist. Very interesting.

Exactly, The only real terribly special thing Sierra has (Who is accused of being too perfect) is she's incredibly dedicated, to the point of an almost unhealthy obsession. MOST fighters are like that when they get to championship level, it's why they're there. In her time Jolene Blackshear was the best there was and she was I think in medical school (It was some HEAVY science shit, I remember that much) and she held titles. True to form of her personality type she got bored and is back out of retirement and still kicking ass and she's in her late 30s or even early 40s.She was champ in 1998.
Landslide tries to avoid standing out, so he wears a lot of heavy black clothes and shades and keeps to himself because he's rather shy about his appearance... till he gets pissed.
I wonder what people tend to be thinking when they perceive a character as being too good or too tough or strong... now I'm going to be thinking about that for the enxt few weeks...

Well, if you want to discuss it further, feel free to e-mail me or contact me on AIM.

Well, I don't write anymore. I've given up on that shit. But it was an enlightening discussion!

Very well put, Karno. I hope a lot of folks will eventually read it.

well said and brilliant

Creator power!
*pew pew*

*ponders* Ah, but there is an important thing to consider here: There are infinite universes out there, by most current physics theories. Infinite is not a small thing; it means *every* universe a creator makes, somewhere, out there in the cosmos, exists. Infinite Diversity in Infinite combos and such.

So, while that means, in another universe, you are *literally* the deity of creation, the characters *can* have lives of their own, and mayhaps, somehow, a little of that different reality can somehow communicate with it's creator. Yeah, a little mind-blowing, but science does also back up inter-dimensional theory as being capable of supporting travel from one universe to another.

So Yes, karno, that means somewhere in the cosmos, every cartoon you've ever made, now only exists, but lives and breathes as a real world. And when you create something within that world, it very well might come into being within that separate universe. Kinda humbling, isn't it?

You might never encounter that universe(in fact, I hope you don't, as heavens knows what the inhabitants might do to you if they found out you can make anything happen... you'd be worshiped as a god or forced to serve them, or both), but it probably exists out there somewhere.

I hope you sleep well tonight;)

*snickers* There's an entire category of fanfiction called the 'revengefic', which involves the characters being pissed off at their writer for making them go through all that.

While I tend not to go for the approach of deliberately making my character's lives horrible like some people do, you do need some conflict to make an actual story, as you point out here. And I know I have a couple of my characters who wouldn't be all that happy with me...

I need to go read Scott McCloud's books again.

What exactly is Barr Wars?