
A Thorough Introduction to Hive Symbiotes
Succubats:
Succubats like to hunt for potential hosts that share a gender with themselves. Once they find one, succubats attach at the base of the spine.
What do they do to me?
They change your body, expelling all foreign material, and reshaping you generally towards a thin, athletic, and busty (when applicable) ideal of your gender. They often make hosts look fiercer: Claws, sharper teeth, spines, or a giant mouth on the tail are all common. Succubat hosts find that they're healthier and more energetic than they used to be, as the symbiote helps regulate hormone imbalances.
Succubats want their hosts healthy and productive, and things like depression get in the way of that. Symbionts all feel a sense of empathy for their fellow symbionts and succubats. You don't have to be nice to each other, but seeing each other in pain hurts like seeing a puppy or fellow person in pain. Once paired up, a succubat is completely integrated with their host.
Are there any side effects?
Kind of. Socially, a lot of people are distrusting of symbiotes and symbionts, sometimes treating them like body snatchers, or zombies, or like sex demons. Law enforcement will look for (or make up) reasons to break up gatherings of succubats and arrest them. Also, succubats want to help a hive and queen. If you don't help any queens at all, the succubat will get sad and lethargic, and you'll start to feel that from them too. If a Symbiont had transformative powers, they'll find that hiding being a succubat requires conscious action. If they just "transform into a human", then they'll be a human who looks like a succubat symbiont. They need to hide their horns, change their color, change their hooves, and hide their succubat tail.
So are you sex demons?
No. Hosts are free to have sex, like any consenting adults, but you're not compelled to have sex any more than asyms (non hosts) who happen to be at their physical prime with super attractive bodies and no gender dysphoria, who find themselves surrounded with similarly fit and attractive people. Hives often have a very high concentration of LGBT+ people as well.
Crown Crabs
Crown Crabs are adolescent Hive Queens. They're interested in any potential hosts. Crown Crabs attach to the top of the head.
What do they do to me?
Like succubats, they expel all foreign material from your body. Crown Crabs cause rapid growth in hosts. Symbionts gain lots of increased muscle mass, as their skeleton grows to accommodate it. Symbionts have massive torsos. They have huge chests, wide shoulders, and big arms and hands. They grow spikes all over their body, mostly on the arms at the shoulder, elbow and knuckles, as well as occasionally along their head and back. Depending on the symbiont's gender, they'll also experience hip growth and breast development.
Crown Crabs have more extreme mental changes, as the symbiote literally takes up residence in their head. Symbionts often describe it as having an excitable and protective dog in their head. Crown Crabs want to protect their hivemates, and especially the symbiotes. You don't need to follow every whim or desire of your symbiote, but if you neglect it, it'll become rebellious and agitated, causing a lot of problems for you mentally. More than another else, a healthy crown crab symbiont is a relationship, as the host and symbiote work together and care about each other. Once paired up, a Crown Crab is completely integrated with their host.
Are there any side effects?
Crown Crabs not only experience stronger prejudice against then than succubats, but with their new extreme bodytypes, Symbionts can find they don't fit into spaces not designed to accommodate extremomorphs, including their own home and vehicles. As mentioned earlier, a crown crab can't ignore their symbiote's desire to help the hive without hurting themselves mentally. Crown Crabs need to eat a lot more food to maintain their huge, muscular body. Expect to eat close to 20,000 calories a day. Not eating enough will wear down on your life, permanently. If a Symbiont possessed transformative powers, they'll find they can't hide being a crown crab, as their symbiote always gives it's own twist on the result.
Are Crown Crabs dumb brutes?
No. Crown crabs are no less intelligent than they were before becoming a symbiont. They're just big and strong.
Hive Queens
Hive Queens are Crown crabs that have been cared for so they can grow to maturity. Hive Queens attach to the spine of hosts.
What do they do to me?
Hive queens massively grow symbionts. Hosts grow, become 3 times taller than they used to be, with increased muscle mass, and larger secondary sexual characteristics, depending on their gender. Hive queens gain claws and spikes. Their tail is replaced by, or merged with the Queen's abdomen, a giant womb and incubation chamber. They almost immediately begin laying eggs, creating new succubats and crown crabs to hopefully get people that can help get the Queen Food.
Hive Queens are massively hungry, all the time. They need to not only maintain their body, which is even bigger than crown crabs, but they need the food to make more and more eggs. Hive Queens can't stop making eggs, they can only specify if they're making succubats or crown crabs. Queen Symbionts don't experience much mental changes, just fixed dysphoria and fixed hormones like with all symbionts. However, their dire hunger will drive queens to do anything they can to eat and stay alive. New queens should be prepared with lots of food on hand, and supportive friends, if they want a peaceful transition.
Are there any side effects?
The hunger. Queens need more food than any one person can reasonably get, and as they continue living, they continue to grow and need more food. So their food has to be plentiful and sustainable. They also have trouble fitting into the world, and need accommodations that can cater to an extremomorph like them. Queens can also find moving around quickly difficult, as their tail is full of growing and incubating eggs. Overexertion could harm their unborn children. Queens Symbionts are also infertile. The symbiote demands too much from the host to bear children, or to help others do so. Queens can have sex, like any symbiont, but unlike the others, they can't have kids. If a Symbiont possessed transformative powers, they'll find it's impossible to change in a way that would get in the way of being a Hive Queen. Shrinking, changing their tail, and hiding their symbiote are all impossible.
Are Hive Queens all Female?
No. Hive queens can be any gender.
Terminology
Symbiote - Succubats, Crown Crabs and Hive Queens. An organism that forms a mutually beneficial relationship with a host.
Symbiont - The person the symbiote is attached to. Some symbionts prefer this term to "Host". Can also be called by their symbiote. EX: A succubat symbiont can be called a succubat.
Asym - Asymbiont. Without a Symbiote. A way to talk about people who aren't symbionts without using words like "normal".
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Succubats like to hunt for potential hosts that share a gender with themselves. Once they find one, succubats attach at the base of the spine.
What do they do to me?
They change your body, expelling all foreign material, and reshaping you generally towards a thin, athletic, and busty (when applicable) ideal of your gender. They often make hosts look fiercer: Claws, sharper teeth, spines, or a giant mouth on the tail are all common. Succubat hosts find that they're healthier and more energetic than they used to be, as the symbiote helps regulate hormone imbalances.
Succubats want their hosts healthy and productive, and things like depression get in the way of that. Symbionts all feel a sense of empathy for their fellow symbionts and succubats. You don't have to be nice to each other, but seeing each other in pain hurts like seeing a puppy or fellow person in pain. Once paired up, a succubat is completely integrated with their host.
Are there any side effects?
Kind of. Socially, a lot of people are distrusting of symbiotes and symbionts, sometimes treating them like body snatchers, or zombies, or like sex demons. Law enforcement will look for (or make up) reasons to break up gatherings of succubats and arrest them. Also, succubats want to help a hive and queen. If you don't help any queens at all, the succubat will get sad and lethargic, and you'll start to feel that from them too. If a Symbiont had transformative powers, they'll find that hiding being a succubat requires conscious action. If they just "transform into a human", then they'll be a human who looks like a succubat symbiont. They need to hide their horns, change their color, change their hooves, and hide their succubat tail.
So are you sex demons?
No. Hosts are free to have sex, like any consenting adults, but you're not compelled to have sex any more than asyms (non hosts) who happen to be at their physical prime with super attractive bodies and no gender dysphoria, who find themselves surrounded with similarly fit and attractive people. Hives often have a very high concentration of LGBT+ people as well.
Crown Crabs
Crown Crabs are adolescent Hive Queens. They're interested in any potential hosts. Crown Crabs attach to the top of the head.
What do they do to me?
Like succubats, they expel all foreign material from your body. Crown Crabs cause rapid growth in hosts. Symbionts gain lots of increased muscle mass, as their skeleton grows to accommodate it. Symbionts have massive torsos. They have huge chests, wide shoulders, and big arms and hands. They grow spikes all over their body, mostly on the arms at the shoulder, elbow and knuckles, as well as occasionally along their head and back. Depending on the symbiont's gender, they'll also experience hip growth and breast development.
Crown Crabs have more extreme mental changes, as the symbiote literally takes up residence in their head. Symbionts often describe it as having an excitable and protective dog in their head. Crown Crabs want to protect their hivemates, and especially the symbiotes. You don't need to follow every whim or desire of your symbiote, but if you neglect it, it'll become rebellious and agitated, causing a lot of problems for you mentally. More than another else, a healthy crown crab symbiont is a relationship, as the host and symbiote work together and care about each other. Once paired up, a Crown Crab is completely integrated with their host.
Are there any side effects?
Crown Crabs not only experience stronger prejudice against then than succubats, but with their new extreme bodytypes, Symbionts can find they don't fit into spaces not designed to accommodate extremomorphs, including their own home and vehicles. As mentioned earlier, a crown crab can't ignore their symbiote's desire to help the hive without hurting themselves mentally. Crown Crabs need to eat a lot more food to maintain their huge, muscular body. Expect to eat close to 20,000 calories a day. Not eating enough will wear down on your life, permanently. If a Symbiont possessed transformative powers, they'll find they can't hide being a crown crab, as their symbiote always gives it's own twist on the result.
Are Crown Crabs dumb brutes?
No. Crown crabs are no less intelligent than they were before becoming a symbiont. They're just big and strong.
Hive Queens
Hive Queens are Crown crabs that have been cared for so they can grow to maturity. Hive Queens attach to the spine of hosts.
What do they do to me?
Hive queens massively grow symbionts. Hosts grow, become 3 times taller than they used to be, with increased muscle mass, and larger secondary sexual characteristics, depending on their gender. Hive queens gain claws and spikes. Their tail is replaced by, or merged with the Queen's abdomen, a giant womb and incubation chamber. They almost immediately begin laying eggs, creating new succubats and crown crabs to hopefully get people that can help get the Queen Food.
Hive Queens are massively hungry, all the time. They need to not only maintain their body, which is even bigger than crown crabs, but they need the food to make more and more eggs. Hive Queens can't stop making eggs, they can only specify if they're making succubats or crown crabs. Queen Symbionts don't experience much mental changes, just fixed dysphoria and fixed hormones like with all symbionts. However, their dire hunger will drive queens to do anything they can to eat and stay alive. New queens should be prepared with lots of food on hand, and supportive friends, if they want a peaceful transition.
Are there any side effects?
The hunger. Queens need more food than any one person can reasonably get, and as they continue living, they continue to grow and need more food. So their food has to be plentiful and sustainable. They also have trouble fitting into the world, and need accommodations that can cater to an extremomorph like them. Queens can also find moving around quickly difficult, as their tail is full of growing and incubating eggs. Overexertion could harm their unborn children. Queens Symbionts are also infertile. The symbiote demands too much from the host to bear children, or to help others do so. Queens can have sex, like any symbiont, but unlike the others, they can't have kids. If a Symbiont possessed transformative powers, they'll find it's impossible to change in a way that would get in the way of being a Hive Queen. Shrinking, changing their tail, and hiding their symbiote are all impossible.
Are Hive Queens all Female?
No. Hive queens can be any gender.
Terminology
Symbiote - Succubats, Crown Crabs and Hive Queens. An organism that forms a mutually beneficial relationship with a host.
Symbiont - The person the symbiote is attached to. Some symbionts prefer this term to "Host". Can also be called by their symbiote. EX: A succubat symbiont can be called a succubat.
Asym - Asymbiont. Without a Symbiote. A way to talk about people who aren't symbionts without using words like "normal".
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the succubat eye would still appear on the tail, the existing sentient tailmaw would retain control of itself, and also be feeling the effects of the tail.
The tailmaw would be more deeply integrated with the succubat, getting a relationship more like a crown crab symbiont.
The tailmaw would be more deeply integrated with the succubat, getting a relationship more like a crown crab symbiont.
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Bless OvertheLune for being out there doing this good work.
(And bless Ficus for developing and nurturing this concept in the first place.)
(And bless Ficus for developing and nurturing this concept in the first place.)
I mean I was p excited the day I realized my life was about to be turned upside down and some people would hate me for being me. And that change didn't even come with immediate bangin titties.
For not getting the allegory, you sure hit the bullshit where transphobic cis people insist they "aren't cis, they're normal" right on the head
For not getting the allegory, you sure hit the bullshit where transphobic cis people insist they "aren't cis, they're normal" right on the head
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
There's this cultural idea of what trans is, and trans people can grow up thinking "I don't count". They need need help or time to realize that like "I don't have to be the gender I was assigned at birth"
People in all walks of life can realize they're trans, or know it early on. A common way that trans people come to the realization is by being friends with lots of other trans people, because they're relatable and into the same things as you, and seeing that they don't fit your preconceptions, seeing that you have the same feelings that made them realize they're trans. Much like encountering a random bat, or like getting a bat from a friend.
I'm trans. That's the "World turned upside down". I don't have to live as what I was assigned; I could just be a girl. If I did this, there were people out there who would want me shut out of society, or to kill me, or to """"cure"""" me as you so aptly put it. If I didn't, life would just keep being this hollow thing I highkey wanted to stop and start over right.
Bigots already assume trans people are sex demons, or that they hate to see this "happen" to us, or think it's "Gut wrenching to see my son change". They "Don't hate us, they hate this trans thing"
Also cisgender means you aren't transgender. So a cis man vs a trans man. Like Asym people vs symbionts. A lot of transphones take offence to being called cis. "I'm not cis I'm normal!" This happens with other bigots who take offence at a label putting them on the same level as their object of hate. They hate the idea that trans people aren't freaks or monsters and that they aren't normal.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
Being trans is not a choice.
There's this cultural idea of what trans is, and trans people can grow up thinking "I don't count". They need need help or time to realize that like "I don't have to be the gender I was assigned at birth"
People in all walks of life can realize they're trans, or know it early on. A common way that trans people come to the realization is by being friends with lots of other trans people, because they're relatable and into the same things as you, and seeing that they don't fit your preconceptions, seeing that you have the same feelings that made them realize they're trans. Much like encountering a random bat, or like getting a bat from a friend.
I'm trans. That's the "World turned upside down". I don't have to live as what I was assigned; I could just be a girl. If I did this, there were people out there who would want me shut out of society, or to kill me, or to """"cure"""" me as you so aptly put it. If I didn't, life would just keep being this hollow thing I highkey wanted to stop and start over right.
Bigots already assume trans people are sex demons, or that they hate to see this "happen" to us, or think it's "Gut wrenching to see my son change". They "Don't hate us, they hate this trans thing"
Also cisgender means you aren't transgender. So a cis man vs a trans man. Like Asym people vs symbionts. A lot of transphones take offence to being called cis. "I'm not cis I'm normal!" This happens with other bigots who take offence at a label putting them on the same level as their object of hate. They hate the idea that trans people aren't freaks or monsters and that they aren't normal.
Well, ways to help out include being educated about the experience and truth of trans people, amplifying their voices instead of speaking for them or over them, and calling out fellow cis people when they're acting transphobic or repeating transphobic rhetoric. Let them know that's not ok. Even if you feel like you're making things awkward. Fight for equal trans rights and treatment.
Listen to what trans people say they need, instead of inflicting your own solution on them.
I mean succubats
Listen to what trans people say they need, instead of inflicting your own solution on them.
I mean succubats
This is kind of information makes me feel like that I should point out a couple of main reasons why people fear the succubats and their hosts, but at the same time point out that, while symbioants do play a part in converting others only few number of them (out of x number of symbionts) act out on it, that symbionts don't actively go around forcibly converting people into succubats too with my limited understanding of them.
The main problem is that the succubat symbiotes by and large are, sadly, basically pests of the worst kind. They're very animal-like, pretty much can appear in almost everywhere, including other people's homes, and almost endless. It doesn't help that they are also cunning and work together in getting hosts for each other. Just like animals who tend to eat food whenever they find some or any prey that just comes into their territory, they just do these things out of survival and instinct. Most of them don't really have a good concept on consent unless, again for the most part, was ordered by a host to stand-by because they do what animals do and drive on instinct. So technically writing, it's really more of bad luck when one becomes a host to the symbiote and it becomes even more bad luck when the symbionts get blamed for this happening by the new host's family and friends. It's a misconception that the symbionts and the hive queen symbiont have complete control over every succubat symbiote, when most of the time most of the symbiotes are just wild and running around all over the place. The only ones that the symbionts do have control over are the ones they actually kept as pets but just like every pet they don't have complete control over them. Especially since normal succubat symbiotes are hostile to asyms and want to merge with them anyway. So because of these things about the regular symbiotes that aren't kept as pets by the symbionts, there is the main fear for both of types of succubats.
Another problem that the symbiont succubats face is how some of them seem to hide their symbiote counterparts upon their asym friends. Though some of them are wary enough to at least instruct their symbiotes to not to merge with the asyms until they say yes in these situation, there's no clear indication if the symbiotes that surprised the asyms was more of tragic mistake of absentmindedness or was done on purpose to get more members of the hive. So it's kinda easy to guess where most people will view these "surprise attacks," and is moments like this that cause people to highly distrust the symbionts to make them think they're akin to zombies, which strangely enough isn't compared with vampires nor werewolves. Though this is more likely due to the fact that the vampires and werewolves themselves have to be the ones to convert somebody to their race instead of some wild creatures that most likely outnumber them, as well as the fact that they have an easier time fitting in with normal people and some types allow shapeshifting to the other form to be more optional. Also while vampires and werewolves also seek to increase their numbers they may seem more appealing than succubats because they "seem" to have more individuality than even though newly converts on both cases have a high chance turn on their allies resisting them. It's just that new succubats seem to have 100% chance of being on the hive's side while new werewolves and vampires have 60%-95% of joining the ones that changed them and attack their friends. That's another misconception that the symbionts have to fight against, because it is true that they will be compelled to help the hive in any way they can that doesn't mean that they will start attacking their friends or kidnap them to forcibly convert them (though tricking them seems to be is not out of the question...), whether or not that they do that depends very largely on who they were.
The thing that asyms need to learn the most is that if they were against succubats when they were converted, then they will not convert their friends while fighting with them and will most likely keep them from being converted instead. Now there are symbionts that will try to convince people to join them through conversations but they actually do take No as an answer. But the problem remains with the issues of the wild symbiotes running around and with stories and notices that the symbionts sometimes send gifts with symbiotes in theme and may also be blamed for succubat outbreaks happening when maybe they're not to blame at all when it could be that random wild Hive Queen symbiote found someone to start their main function. I don't think symbionts plan attacks or cause the symbiotes to run wild in the first place unless they are particularly bad people before their conversion. However this also brings to mind that it's hard for symbionts to gain the asyms trust when all they have is their word and they don't have any control over their symbiote counterparts beyond that of loyal pet to a small few.
Back to the werewolf and vampire comparison, there seems to be no known cure for them that doesn't involve the murder of the one that changed them in the first place. That also seems to be the issue concerning the succubats, but of course there is no known cure for them and it's another reason why asyms fear them since becoming a host is more of a permanent process. Unless a cure is "invented" and done in a way that doesn't destroy the symbiote itself, since they form an immediate bond with their host, as well as guaranteed that the Cured has more of a choice to go back to their symbiote, people will always fear of becoming one themselves since the misconception of them losing themselves is abound. It also doesn't help that there seems to be always a risk of being friends with a symbiont without becoming one themselves eventually.
So in essence there's a lot of problems that symbionts have to work through and most of it may have to come with a misconception that they control all the symbiotes instead of the ones they find and keep as a pet themselves, a misconception that they will forcibly convert their friends, a misconception that they are not themselves, and a misconception that they like to trick people. It's a lot of things they have to put up with especially for a lot of things that they have no control over. If they could do something about them then maybe the problems will slowly die down.
The main problem is that the succubat symbiotes by and large are, sadly, basically pests of the worst kind. They're very animal-like, pretty much can appear in almost everywhere, including other people's homes, and almost endless. It doesn't help that they are also cunning and work together in getting hosts for each other. Just like animals who tend to eat food whenever they find some or any prey that just comes into their territory, they just do these things out of survival and instinct. Most of them don't really have a good concept on consent unless, again for the most part, was ordered by a host to stand-by because they do what animals do and drive on instinct. So technically writing, it's really more of bad luck when one becomes a host to the symbiote and it becomes even more bad luck when the symbionts get blamed for this happening by the new host's family and friends. It's a misconception that the symbionts and the hive queen symbiont have complete control over every succubat symbiote, when most of the time most of the symbiotes are just wild and running around all over the place. The only ones that the symbionts do have control over are the ones they actually kept as pets but just like every pet they don't have complete control over them. Especially since normal succubat symbiotes are hostile to asyms and want to merge with them anyway. So because of these things about the regular symbiotes that aren't kept as pets by the symbionts, there is the main fear for both of types of succubats.
Another problem that the symbiont succubats face is how some of them seem to hide their symbiote counterparts upon their asym friends. Though some of them are wary enough to at least instruct their symbiotes to not to merge with the asyms until they say yes in these situation, there's no clear indication if the symbiotes that surprised the asyms was more of tragic mistake of absentmindedness or was done on purpose to get more members of the hive. So it's kinda easy to guess where most people will view these "surprise attacks," and is moments like this that cause people to highly distrust the symbionts to make them think they're akin to zombies, which strangely enough isn't compared with vampires nor werewolves. Though this is more likely due to the fact that the vampires and werewolves themselves have to be the ones to convert somebody to their race instead of some wild creatures that most likely outnumber them, as well as the fact that they have an easier time fitting in with normal people and some types allow shapeshifting to the other form to be more optional. Also while vampires and werewolves also seek to increase their numbers they may seem more appealing than succubats because they "seem" to have more individuality than even though newly converts on both cases have a high chance turn on their allies resisting them. It's just that new succubats seem to have 100% chance of being on the hive's side while new werewolves and vampires have 60%-95% of joining the ones that changed them and attack their friends. That's another misconception that the symbionts have to fight against, because it is true that they will be compelled to help the hive in any way they can that doesn't mean that they will start attacking their friends or kidnap them to forcibly convert them (though tricking them seems to be is not out of the question...), whether or not that they do that depends very largely on who they were.
The thing that asyms need to learn the most is that if they were against succubats when they were converted, then they will not convert their friends while fighting with them and will most likely keep them from being converted instead. Now there are symbionts that will try to convince people to join them through conversations but they actually do take No as an answer. But the problem remains with the issues of the wild symbiotes running around and with stories and notices that the symbionts sometimes send gifts with symbiotes in theme and may also be blamed for succubat outbreaks happening when maybe they're not to blame at all when it could be that random wild Hive Queen symbiote found someone to start their main function. I don't think symbionts plan attacks or cause the symbiotes to run wild in the first place unless they are particularly bad people before their conversion. However this also brings to mind that it's hard for symbionts to gain the asyms trust when all they have is their word and they don't have any control over their symbiote counterparts beyond that of loyal pet to a small few.
Back to the werewolf and vampire comparison, there seems to be no known cure for them that doesn't involve the murder of the one that changed them in the first place. That also seems to be the issue concerning the succubats, but of course there is no known cure for them and it's another reason why asyms fear them since becoming a host is more of a permanent process. Unless a cure is "invented" and done in a way that doesn't destroy the symbiote itself, since they form an immediate bond with their host, as well as guaranteed that the Cured has more of a choice to go back to their symbiote, people will always fear of becoming one themselves since the misconception of them losing themselves is abound. It also doesn't help that there seems to be always a risk of being friends with a symbiont without becoming one themselves eventually.
So in essence there's a lot of problems that symbionts have to work through and most of it may have to come with a misconception that they control all the symbiotes instead of the ones they find and keep as a pet themselves, a misconception that they will forcibly convert their friends, a misconception that they are not themselves, and a misconception that they like to trick people. It's a lot of things they have to put up with especially for a lot of things that they have no control over. If they could do something about them then maybe the problems will slowly die down.
I don't know about that. I at least feel the very last paragraph accurately describes how asyms view succubats in general, especially with the canon fact that they attack hosts or cry for them when they are made. The part about how the symbionts treat the symbiotes and the paragraphs before it does seem more like headcanon though.
I was more wondering if traits of the succubat or crown crab would transfer over though I guess I should have worded that better. also what is the hive or Symbiont react to the child I'm guessing it's different for each but still. what would the Hives reaction would be to a child born to a member. sorry for all the questions but the 'Demon parasites' interest me with their cultural views are.
I thought I just answered that. That's literally exactly what my response was addressing.
I mean, they're just people. They react to kids like any other group would. Some like kids, some don't. Generally peeps are congratulating someone who just had a kid. I'm not sure what you mean by reaction.
I mean, they're just people. They react to kids like any other group would. Some like kids, some don't. Generally peeps are congratulating someone who just had a kid. I'm not sure what you mean by reaction.
I would love if there was a bat that could tf me into a beautiful busty dragoness for the hive acting as a mascot to help encourage others to help the queen...or if I be a queen, well...than again though it be pretty hard to move around at all than with none stop thinking of food instead of showing off to people. I hope there is a bat out there for me XD LOL.
It seems some of my thoughts and concerns on some of the flaws and such have already been addressed, but it still warrants the question of what these things are truly after, beyond mere survival. For instance, what was the first queen after before ever infecting a host, or was there really a big plan in the first place? I mean, I'm sure they didn't just start off with the intent of being some supposed fantasy cure-all for the entire population of Earth... You, yourself, have described them as parasitic demons, after all.
They're just animals. They just want to live, eat, and make kids. They don't plan, at least not long term. That's the kinda heavy thinking that's generally left to symbionts.
The "Demon Parasites" label is one they get in setting, and they have no connection to any demonic beings or worlds.
The "Demon Parasites" label is one they get in setting, and they have no connection to any demonic beings or worlds.
IT'S NOT THO? You're assuming shit based on unrelated properties I don't know about, calling my stuff the wrong name, and directly contradicting the text of the post you are replying to.
It's not open to interpretation, you're just bad at reading and don't understand how to reply to posts. (click the text that says reply to post on the right side of the post)
It's not open to interpretation, you're just bad at reading and don't understand how to reply to posts. (click the text that says reply to post on the right side of the post)
am i? anyway lets start over and my appologies if my first post had upset you in some way.
heres what i gather from them as a species:
1) they form symbiosis with larger creatures as a form of survival. altering the host genetic structure permanently both mentally and physically.
2)symbionts that become queens become clinically sterile in the normal sense, only able to produce more eggs which then hatch into succubats and crown crabs the latter of which can be nurtured to become queens which then find hosts.
3)those that are tranfrormed want to help others of their kind, instinctually its only suggestive in that the host can choose to ignore it however should a host continue to ignore those instincts it may cause some mental discomfort for the symbiont.
4)those that are transformed can still form emotional and sexual relationships as when they were normal.
there are other points but this is already going on too long.
anyway what im asking is aside from the queen hosts, those that are transformed by either head crabs or succubats can still raise kids normally?
Im probably thinking too much into this, but only because im an introvertial geek who probably read one too many science fiction novels
anyway great job on creating such a fleshed out species.
heres what i gather from them as a species:
1) they form symbiosis with larger creatures as a form of survival. altering the host genetic structure permanently both mentally and physically.
2)symbionts that become queens become clinically sterile in the normal sense, only able to produce more eggs which then hatch into succubats and crown crabs the latter of which can be nurtured to become queens which then find hosts.
3)those that are tranfrormed want to help others of their kind, instinctually its only suggestive in that the host can choose to ignore it however should a host continue to ignore those instincts it may cause some mental discomfort for the symbiont.
4)those that are transformed can still form emotional and sexual relationships as when they were normal.
there are other points but this is already going on too long.
anyway what im asking is aside from the queen hosts, those that are transformed by either head crabs or succubats can still raise kids normally?
Im probably thinking too much into this, but only because im an introvertial geek who probably read one too many science fiction novels
anyway great job on creating such a fleshed out species.
hmmm.......cool
but on another note have you ever thought of doing a web comic revolving around this species and the world they exist in? Depending on how you do the planning it could be pretty successfull. you've got world and lore fleshed out, and even some main characters you can use
but on another note have you ever thought of doing a web comic revolving around this species and the world they exist in? Depending on how you do the planning it could be pretty successfull. you've got world and lore fleshed out, and even some main characters you can use
Just.. please stop replying like this. https://imgur.com/a/JA5Lw8T it's right there. click "reply to this post"
food, mainly. or money for food if that's all you can do. queens need a lot of that. There's also caring for bats and doing all the like, maintenance and upkeep, like caring for newborn bats, cleaning, paying rent.
active recruiting is less about a hive mandate or symbiote imperative, and is just like, you have a good thing, and want to share it with others.
active recruiting is less about a hive mandate or symbiote imperative, and is just like, you have a good thing, and want to share it with others.
This answers quite a bit of questions for me, thank you! I'm less confused. I might have to visit a local recruiter soon
One last question, its for the Crown Crab. Would something like vore be a valid way to help with the constant hunger? This is all assuming its in a world where vore is a thing after all.
One last question, its for the Crown Crab. Would something like vore be a valid way to help with the constant hunger? This is all assuming its in a world where vore is a thing after all.
i mean, you're killing and eating someone. even if it's not in that order that's p morally messed up and the kind of illegal behavior that will really get law enforcement to raid your entire hive.
the world of succubats and galactic maids tries to stay fairly grounded. kinks exist, and it explores every day life with those kinks, but people who put their kinks above other people's consent and well being are bad guys.
the world of succubats and galactic maids tries to stay fairly grounded. kinks exist, and it explores every day life with those kinks, but people who put their kinks above other people's consent and well being are bad guys.
While nice as a concept, they're a bit too... rapey I guess, to be desirable. Plus the way they and their hosts act makes them seem more like parasites than symbiotes. Mostly because it seems forcing bats on people against their will is xonsidered okay, and the reactions are all "I now love this despite my previous opinion" even if their gender or sexuality was changed by it. This gives it all a mixed feeling, that despite it being kinda hot the bats don't actually care about what their hosts and non-hosts want, making them being empathetic seem a fabrication. Mixed feelings of yay and nay.
I have questions about the succubats
Is the change permanent? Not even undoable if someone wanted to undo it?
Is there a way to prevent a succubat from getting you if you don't want to be a symbiont but the succubat wants you?
The symbiont is still mentally and emotionally themselves after getting one, right? Just without depression or dysphoria if they had any?
Is the change permanent? Not even undoable if someone wanted to undo it?
Is there a way to prevent a succubat from getting you if you don't want to be a symbiont but the succubat wants you?
The symbiont is still mentally and emotionally themselves after getting one, right? Just without depression or dysphoria if they had any?
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