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This is NOT Healthy! Not normal at all!
by rabbi-tom
Thats MR Asshole to you!
7 years ago
I regularly open my gun safes and check the weapons inside on a fairly regular basis. And do a gun oil wipe down on average every 3 months to each weapon. I also have large cans of Desiccant inside each safe to help cut down on humidity and avoid what you see in this photo.
What scares me is that this particular safe had everything out and oiled down back in Mid-November and when I opened it up yesterday to grab a rifle to take to a gun show to sell to help catch up on bills. I was utterly horrified at what I saw. 75% of the weapons inside looked much like this, though some looked worse...like this WW1 G-98 Mauser rifle. And thats WITH the desiccant inside the safe. This in 2 months? Not good.
Outside of checking monthly everything, rebleaching the interiors again and again, I talked with the salesmen at Cabelas and they said its due to the humidity and the desiccant helps, but not good enough. Its suggested I get ahold of electrical dehumidifiers which do a far better job to help block the humidity problem. And being currently dirt fucking broke doesn't help me for jack shit. If somebody wants to help out, I got the dehumidifiers on my Amazon list and would greatly be appreciated.
I spent several hours going through each weapon , 4F steel wooling off any light rust like you see here, and re-oiling everything AGAIN, leaving on a heavy coating.
But let this be a serious wake up for you gun owners out there in humid climates. Just cause they are enclosed in a safe to protect them from theft, doesn't protect them from humidity, unless you got those serious high dollar sealed safes. Like I said, I check mine on average every 3 months, and every three months I find some sort of this on some of them. And I still need to make sure the leather is cleaned as well. Its strange seeing mold on gun wood. Any clue what to do? Outside what I'm already doing or need to obtain?
What scares me is that this particular safe had everything out and oiled down back in Mid-November and when I opened it up yesterday to grab a rifle to take to a gun show to sell to help catch up on bills. I was utterly horrified at what I saw. 75% of the weapons inside looked much like this, though some looked worse...like this WW1 G-98 Mauser rifle. And thats WITH the desiccant inside the safe. This in 2 months? Not good.
Outside of checking monthly everything, rebleaching the interiors again and again, I talked with the salesmen at Cabelas and they said its due to the humidity and the desiccant helps, but not good enough. Its suggested I get ahold of electrical dehumidifiers which do a far better job to help block the humidity problem. And being currently dirt fucking broke doesn't help me for jack shit. If somebody wants to help out, I got the dehumidifiers on my Amazon list and would greatly be appreciated.
I spent several hours going through each weapon , 4F steel wooling off any light rust like you see here, and re-oiling everything AGAIN, leaving on a heavy coating.
But let this be a serious wake up for you gun owners out there in humid climates. Just cause they are enclosed in a safe to protect them from theft, doesn't protect them from humidity, unless you got those serious high dollar sealed safes. Like I said, I check mine on average every 3 months, and every three months I find some sort of this on some of them. And I still need to make sure the leather is cleaned as well. Its strange seeing mold on gun wood. Any clue what to do? Outside what I'm already doing or need to obtain?
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Happy to help.
But I did find this:
https://www.roguerivertools.com/brass-wool.html
sadly they ship thru scamazon...sigh...
But, all in all, a pack of 5 of them from your local grocer (make sure they're 3M, not a knock off) is just as good as any sandpaper/metal wool cleaner, but far cheaper and won't cause dissimilar metal corrosion.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-pad01-Heavy-Scour-Green/dp/B001KYQBX0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1547641782&sr=8-3
Honestly if I had my own place, a home of my own, I'd also have the far heavier, sealed safes.
i might be doing the same, the cement in the next year or to.
get safe in where you want it, get a hammer drill/drill to bore into concent, drill down and set anchors.
going to be my way to do it, once anchors are set, jsut put the nut on and tighten
How have your temps been? Any big swings in temp or humdidity? Any way to keep a constant temp inside the safe? Cheap heating pad or one of those tiny "personal" ac units?
Needless to say, I've altered my guncase to prevent such incidents in the future.
I myself have seen two cars and one truck in person that were 100 years or older at the time. Kinda makes you think, that a machine can outlive the people who built it, the children of it's first owner, all the things they see, etc.
Make them airtight, and then put in the dessicant.
I’ve had to use several different types for work, am I’m curious if one of them might do better than what you’re using.
he did it himself and winds up happening is the silica pulls moisture in yes but also pulls it from the outside like through all the little cracks and welds and does what you found.
so best to go with you. Least in my area i dont use and never had a issue, so might be better to not use the stuff
The dessicant only works for a fixed period of time, I'm guessing it is 'full' most kinds you can put in a stove at 300f for a while to dry it out again to recharge it. My buddy would by the fresh step crystal clear stuff, big box of dessicant for $10 put it in cotton socks and then toss them in an oven once every month to recharge them.