Just another quick test. Someone left a comment on a picture of mine that I did a while ago, and it reminded me of something... a while ago I had some bristol which was quite smooth and actually stayed that way after I painted on it. I went out today to see if I could find some and I did, so I used the first idea that really sparked with me from that journal, given to me by
taakuin.
This picture doesn't look like much, I know... I was pretty distracted when I drew it, and was just testing a few ideas out, but it's the same method I used to draw two of what I consider my best pictures to date, namely-
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2896991/
and-
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3028557/
So next picture I'ma try something with a background to see if that works well, and if it does, I won't have to change anything after all... just use better paper. xD
So, y'know, just a quick doodle, feel free to ignore if you want (not that I wouldn't mind a few comments, even if it's a quicke... ;p), and I'll try and see what I can really do with the next one. :3 Something porny maybe? Something clean and cute? Hrm...
taakuin. This picture doesn't look like much, I know... I was pretty distracted when I drew it, and was just testing a few ideas out, but it's the same method I used to draw two of what I consider my best pictures to date, namely-
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2896991/
and-
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3028557/
So next picture I'ma try something with a background to see if that works well, and if it does, I won't have to change anything after all... just use better paper. xD
So, y'know, just a quick doodle, feel free to ignore if you want (not that I wouldn't mind a few comments, even if it's a quicke... ;p), and I'll try and see what I can really do with the next one. :3 Something porny maybe? Something clean and cute? Hrm...
Category Artwork (Traditional) / General Furry Art
Species Wolf
Size 587 x 752px
File Size 54.9 kB
Next one should be better- I left a lot of open area because I'm tired and lazy today xD
I might do something porny, but to be honest, I'm getting the feeling a lot of people want me to do something clean lately... I'm feeling people are getting a little tired of relentless porn for some reason. xD
I might do something porny, but to be honest, I'm getting the feeling a lot of people want me to do something clean lately... I'm feeling people are getting a little tired of relentless porn for some reason. xD
I don't use markers at all, actually- I tried art markers out a little, but really didn't like them at all to be honest. I actually use watercolour paints, I find them more forgiving and versatile. Then on top of that, I use coloured pencils to add details and textures.
If you'd like, I can actually put up an example of how I draw, in five or six steps...
If you'd like, I can actually put up an example of how I draw, in five or six steps...
Different materials can have radically different effects. If you feel like you're struggling, then either you need to change yourself to use the medium better, or you need to change the medium to suit yourself better.
It's good to be able to do both, but the latter is generally the better option. It's good to promote your natural tendencies. And it very much works like that where you can think you must just be doing it wrong somehow, and then you change something in the materials you're using, and suddenly the exact same thing you were doing is golden.
Paper matters. _A lot_.
Another thing is to try other mediums. Like marker is mentioned above. You mention that marker didn't work well for you. But the same concept applies... what markers did you try? Different brands yield _very_ different results. And the paper used has dramatic effect on markers as well. Out of all mediums, I'd be inclined to say that markers are the most affected by paper selection, actually.
Anyway, a lot of people try Prismacolor markers on some random paper. And it's just all muddy. In my opinion, Copic markers are dramatically better. And Copic also sells a special paper designed for their markers and the way markers perform on it is amazingly different. Very well behaved. I would say don't give up on markers until you've tried the Copics.
This is not to say your watercolor isn't awesome. Because it totally is. In fact, I wouldn't have even thought it was watercolor. You make it do things other artists can not. So please don't leave that behind!
But... I've found in my own art that learning and experimenting with other mediums teaches me things that I would never have learned in my primary medium. Because other mediums have different emphasis.
For instance, I've never been good at inking. I've tried, but it just doesn't seem to work for me. However, I'm very glad I studied it, because I ended up applying inking techniques I'd learned to my pencil sketching, and that _did_ improve my pencil work substantially. I mean... it's kind of a bastard child misuse of techniques applied to a medium they weren't designed for, but hey... that's the best stuff! :)
Anyway, just some thoughts since I love the heck out of your art, and I get excited whenever you post.
And if you want suggestions, I'll just keep on suggesting gryphons. Especially female gryphons in bondage and getting fucked n stuff.
It's good to be able to do both, but the latter is generally the better option. It's good to promote your natural tendencies. And it very much works like that where you can think you must just be doing it wrong somehow, and then you change something in the materials you're using, and suddenly the exact same thing you were doing is golden.
Paper matters. _A lot_.
Another thing is to try other mediums. Like marker is mentioned above. You mention that marker didn't work well for you. But the same concept applies... what markers did you try? Different brands yield _very_ different results. And the paper used has dramatic effect on markers as well. Out of all mediums, I'd be inclined to say that markers are the most affected by paper selection, actually.
Anyway, a lot of people try Prismacolor markers on some random paper. And it's just all muddy. In my opinion, Copic markers are dramatically better. And Copic also sells a special paper designed for their markers and the way markers perform on it is amazingly different. Very well behaved. I would say don't give up on markers until you've tried the Copics.
This is not to say your watercolor isn't awesome. Because it totally is. In fact, I wouldn't have even thought it was watercolor. You make it do things other artists can not. So please don't leave that behind!
But... I've found in my own art that learning and experimenting with other mediums teaches me things that I would never have learned in my primary medium. Because other mediums have different emphasis.
For instance, I've never been good at inking. I've tried, but it just doesn't seem to work for me. However, I'm very glad I studied it, because I ended up applying inking techniques I'd learned to my pencil sketching, and that _did_ improve my pencil work substantially. I mean... it's kind of a bastard child misuse of techniques applied to a medium they weren't designed for, but hey... that's the best stuff! :)
Anyway, just some thoughts since I love the heck out of your art, and I get excited whenever you post.
And if you want suggestions, I'll just keep on suggesting gryphons. Especially female gryphons in bondage and getting fucked n stuff.
There's three things that I've discovered about markers that I just know I don't like. It's not that they didn't cover well or were muddy or anything. The first is simply that you can't cover areas fast enough, and they dry too fast- maybe not a problem for other artists, but I'm a very slow draw-er. xD Also the way I draw tends to have very large open areas where other's might not. Which meant I had to break out into two directions to colour everything, meaning somewhere there would be an ugly dark line where you pick up colouring again.
The second was that, on paper designed to use markers (which I've used :P ), pencils just don't work or look very good. Generally marker paper is very fine and smooth, right? But pencils need a little bit of grain and weight to work good at all. And while I'm all for experimenting with other ideas, pencils are at the very core of my drawing ability- any time I pick up a new medium, I always end up trying to use it the way I do coloured pencils xD So if I can't use pencils on it well, it's not worth doing, for me.
Third is that they're just -so- damned expensive! A decent, large set of markers can easily cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars. I've found the average price for art markers starts out at around three dollars per marker, and only goes up from there! That's just too rich for my cheap blood xD Watercolour paints, on the other hand, you don't have to use any fancy brand just to get decent results... (Which I've discovered with markers you pretty much have to- crayola's just aren't made to fill large areas smoothly x3) I'm using a set of 24 watercolour tubes that cost me about 12 dollars right now, and I've been using that same exact set for every picture I've drawn for the last -year-. They only cost me 12 dollars for a whole year's worth of use. Now that I can afford xD
I'm pretty sure I've discovered that watercolour, ink, and coloured pencil just suits my drawing style the best, I'm just trying to tweak it now. I think I might have found a paper which works much much better with the pencil half of my drawing, now I just need to see if it can still put up with the paint half of my drawing, by doing some sort of background for it :P
The second was that, on paper designed to use markers (which I've used :P ), pencils just don't work or look very good. Generally marker paper is very fine and smooth, right? But pencils need a little bit of grain and weight to work good at all. And while I'm all for experimenting with other ideas, pencils are at the very core of my drawing ability- any time I pick up a new medium, I always end up trying to use it the way I do coloured pencils xD So if I can't use pencils on it well, it's not worth doing, for me.
Third is that they're just -so- damned expensive! A decent, large set of markers can easily cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars. I've found the average price for art markers starts out at around three dollars per marker, and only goes up from there! That's just too rich for my cheap blood xD Watercolour paints, on the other hand, you don't have to use any fancy brand just to get decent results... (Which I've discovered with markers you pretty much have to- crayola's just aren't made to fill large areas smoothly x3) I'm using a set of 24 watercolour tubes that cost me about 12 dollars right now, and I've been using that same exact set for every picture I've drawn for the last -year-. They only cost me 12 dollars for a whole year's worth of use. Now that I can afford xD
I'm pretty sure I've discovered that watercolour, ink, and coloured pencil just suits my drawing style the best, I'm just trying to tweak it now. I think I might have found a paper which works much much better with the pencil half of my drawing, now I just need to see if it can still put up with the paint half of my drawing, by doing some sort of background for it :P
A lot of valid points. Especially that markers are quite expensive. The Copics are even more so, but they also have higher capacity and are refillable, so they're actually less expensive than the others in the long run, but a much higher buy in cost. Hundreds of dollars is right. If not thousands when you get into the full sets of good ones.
Where you mention getting any ugly dark line when you pick up coloring again, that's what colorless blenders are about, btw.
Anyway, it was just a possible suggestion. I'm a big fan of your style as it is, so it's not like I was recommending you abandon it at all. Just some possible tips.
I didn't end up being into markers myself, but I did work with them for a while and learned from the experience. Mostly it was useful to take what I'd learned back into other mediums I was better with.
Where you mention getting any ugly dark line when you pick up coloring again, that's what colorless blenders are about, btw.
Anyway, it was just a possible suggestion. I'm a big fan of your style as it is, so it's not like I was recommending you abandon it at all. Just some possible tips.
I didn't end up being into markers myself, but I did work with them for a while and learned from the experience. Mostly it was useful to take what I'd learned back into other mediums I was better with.
You make a very good case for watercolours. I'd been considering getting some markers for a while, but now I'm tempted to find an old set of watercolour paints and see what I can do with them...
Also: This picture doesn't look like much, I know. You're insane. Yeah, it might be a simple piece, but you can see the artistic skill here, to make something that refined so economically. (That you can play down a piece like this just makes me jealous.)
Also: This picture doesn't look like much, I know. You're insane. Yeah, it might be a simple piece, but you can see the artistic skill here, to make something that refined so economically. (That you can play down a piece like this just makes me jealous.)
If santa looked something like this-
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1808729/ (Minus the badly drawnness...)
Then no. Then it'd be awesome.
If he looked like this-
http://www.santaclauschicago.com/santa.jpg
Then I really wouldn't wanna know anyway xD
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1808729/ (Minus the badly drawnness...)
Then no. Then it'd be awesome.
If he looked like this-
http://www.santaclauschicago.com/santa.jpg
Then I really wouldn't wanna know anyway xD
Well to be honest, I was originally going to make this picture a lot more suggestive and perverted than it ended up being, it just wasn't going in that direction so I didn't force it, but facially he still ended up looking like he's having a little too much fun xD I really didn't mind, was just a test anyway. :P
I think that's another thing that just comes with pratice. You just gotta hammer away at it over and over until certain things start to feel natural. A simple way to start is simply by reffing poses and copying off artists who you like. Draw things that others have drawn, using that as a starting point. Naturally you won't want to post these things, or if you do give full credit. But as you do this over and over you'll start to get a feel for anatomy and poses and how to set things up, then you simply start to try a few pictures on your own, without a ref. And it'll be hard and you won't know how to do it at first, but if you keep at it and try over and over, you'll start to get more and more natural at it.
At least, this is how I did it. x3 My first several pictures weren't actually my pictures, they were copied by sight. Once I started to get ideas on anatomy, I started to draw based on my own imagination. And, they sucked, terribly. But that's how it starts x3
From what I saw in your gallery, you seemed to have the right idea. :P
At least, this is how I did it. x3 My first several pictures weren't actually my pictures, they were copied by sight. Once I started to get ideas on anatomy, I started to draw based on my own imagination. And, they sucked, terribly. But that's how it starts x3
From what I saw in your gallery, you seemed to have the right idea. :P
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